Re: Which Bit?

2001-08-21 Thread Epona1971
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Thanks to all who posted with bit advice. I am really interested in the 
Mylers. They seem innovative and high quality. However, I would like to have 
one fitted as they are so specialized. I checked their web site, but 
couldn't find a clinic or some such in my area. Anyone else have a Myler bit 
fitted, or been to a clinic?

Brigid





s-l-o-w posts

2001-08-21 Thread Karen McCarthy

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I do not have AOL.
I experience the situation you are describing about 20% of the time, that 
is, I read the reply long before I see the original post,(if ever).



Karen McCarthy
Great Basin Fjords
Carson City, NV



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Subject: Re: CA State Fair #1  : (
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:04:26 EDT

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In a message dated 8/21/01 3:32:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I didn't get them either and I have AOL.


Yes.  But what is weird is I'm getting them from everybody else who has AOL,
just not the original poster on this thread.  How very odd.  Wonder if she's
getting ours?

Pamela



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Re: CA State Fair #1 : (

2001-08-21 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 8/21/01 3:32:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:


 I didn't get them either and I have AOL.
  

Yes.  But what is weird is I'm getting them from everybody else who has AOL, 
just not the original poster on this thread.  How very odd.  Wonder if she's 
getting ours?

Pamela





Re: CA State Fair #1 : (

2001-08-21 Thread SorgerJ
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In a message dated 8/21/01 9:18:20 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  notice you are both on AOL.  I wonder if there is a connection?  Anybody
 else on AOL that didn't recieve them?  I got them OK, but use a local isp,
 mosquitonet.com.
  
I didn't get them either and I have AOL.
 Sue





Re: Grazing Muzzle

2001-08-21 Thread Jean Gayle
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I have a sturdy metal muzzle that I have used on all of my horses.  This
allows them to be with the other horses and to move about.  Saves stall
mucking also. Be sure to get a well made one and have it padded where it
rubs the face. I put it on the horse for a few seconds, then next day for
longer etc until the horse accepts it.  I find it necessary to bend the
frame of the muzzle to make it fit around different heads.  The halter on
mine is pretty unforgiving so I want to also be sure there is nothing for it
to catch on.  The horses show some frustration at first but then seem to
quickly adapt as they do to other things.





Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
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Sissel and me

2001-08-21 Thread coyote
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My Fjord mare Sissel and I went to a horsemanship clinic at the Natural
Gait located near Harper's Ferry, Iowa. It is a beautiful place in
rugged northeast Iowa that is a perfect setting for playing with horses. 

Features: Cabins, sleeping rooms, and camping spaces for people, and
covered open-air stalls for the horses. Miles and miles of hilly trails,
both on the property (200-300 acres) and on the adjoining Yellow River
State Forest. Round pen, indoor arena, outdoor arena. Horse playground
with wooden bridge, big flat rocks to stand on, other obstacles.

Saturday: We started the clinic in the indoor arena, which was good
since there were scattered rain showers all day. 

Morning: Groundwork with a rope halter and long lead rope. We learned to
yield hind- and fore-quarters. Backing. Softening the neck. Giving to
pressure. Sissel did not want to correctly yield her hindquarters toward
the right. The instructor worked with her for 15 minutes while standing
on her left to get her to stop leaning on him and to correctly swing her
hindquarters away while pivoting on her forefeet. It was very difficult
for her to understand what he wanted. Her hindquarter yield was perfect,
however, when he stood on her right and asked for the same yield away
from him.

He explained that horses (like humans) are two sided -- they cannot
transfer a body skill from one side to the other without practice.
That's like expecting a human to write or throw a ball just as well with
one hand as with the other. That usually is not the case with most
people -- we are one sided in many of the skills we do. Horses are no
different. We have to teach both sides of their bodies, and not be
impatient as they learn.

Afternoon: Riding at the walk and trot using a single rein and rope
halter. Yielding, backing, giving to pressure. Working on rider balance,
riding with a loose rein (western riding style). Transitions between
gaits. Stopping with one rein.

One rein riding: How does one turn both ways with just one rein? I
wondered too! You must flip the rein out and over the horse's head as
necessary. That was a tough skill for me to master at first, but it was
fun once I got the hang of it.

Adventures: I was riding with my new Tucker trail saddle with an
extra-wide tree. I really liked it, although as with anything new, it's
taking me a little time to get used to it. I adjusted my stirrup length
several times to find the right length for me to keep a correct seat and
to post comfortably. 

What I forgot to check was the girth! The new latigo tie straps
stretched enough so the saddle slipped under me when I momentarily lost
my balance on a turn at the trot. Sissel thankfully slowed to a stop as
I struggled to keep from falling by hanging on her neck, laughing the
whole time after I realized I wasn't going to fall. I settled the saddle
back in place, adjusted the girth, and off we went again.

Sunday: We started in the indoor arena with rope halters, asking our
horses to negotiate obstacles. Sissel had no problem stepping over the
logs and on the big crackly tarp. She did have a lot of trouble doing a
figure 8 around two buckets -- and, to be honest, part of the problem
was her inexperienced human's fault. I kept getting confused at first
about what I should ask her to do. 

After a bit I figured it out: The idea of this exercise was for the
human to stand a little off to the side of the center of the 8 and ask
the horse to do the figure in front of the human -- the horse does not
circle behind the human at any time. It builds control and yielding
skills. 

I eventually realized that she was acting stiff on the left side again,
so we went back to the basics of yielding hindquarters to the right.
After she warmed up, she did absolutely wonderfully -- doing a smooth,
controlled figure 8 right in front of me with the lightest of direction.

Afternoon: Seven of us went on a 4-hour trail ride, walking and trotting
up and down hills, along winding flat trails, and over two river
crossings. The scenery was beautiful and the day was perfect. Sissel got
to lead the group, be in the middle, and bring up the rear at various
times. She didn't like to get left behind, but did very well in the
lead. At the river crossings, I discovered that the problem was not to
get her to cross, but to keep her from playing and pawing in the water.
I was afraid she was going to lie down and roll, so I had to work to
urge her across.

The only time Sissel and I really had problems was going up one very
steep, very long hillside. She got winded and periodically needed to
stop and catch her breath. Considering that Sissel and I are both a bit
overweight and underexercised, that was to be expected. We just took our
time.

At the horse playground, the others encouraged me to ask Sissel to step
up on a large, flat rock perhaps 16 inches above the ground. I asked her
to face the rock and gently nudged her with my heels to ask her forward.

Grazing Muzzle

2001-08-21 Thread lazyao
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I have a fjord mare, 5 years old that I pasture with 7 quarter horses.  The
schedule they are on is perfect for the quarter horses, but Jayne is
beginning to resemble a parade float.  I saw an ad for a grazing muzzle
which limits the amount of grass the horse gets while grazing, she'd get
some but not as much as she could bite off and chew.

Does anyone have any experience with one of these?

AO





Re: CA State Fair #1 : (

2001-08-21 Thread Jean Ernest
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I notice you are both on AOL.  I wonder if there is a connection?  Anybody
else on AOL that didn't recieve them?  I got them OK, but use a local isp,
mosquitonet.com.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, partly sunnyl and 70 degrees forcast today.

At 11:01 AM 8/21/2001 EDT, you wrote:
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I never did either.

Suzan




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Re: CA State Fair #1 : (

2001-08-21 Thread SSlotness
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I never did either.

Suzan





Re: which bit?

2001-08-21 Thread Starfire Farm, LLC
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Hi Brigid,

Since Tommes goes so well in your snaffle mouth Liverpool, you might
think of trying one of the Myler bits with a western shank.  The Myler
bits are jointed with a swivel action, not a broken or nutcracker
action like a snaffle, so the theory is you get the direct rein
communication that you obtain by having a jointed mouthpiece.  One
problem, however, is that you will probably have to custom order the
mouthpiece size you'll need.  Most Fjords I've worked with need a 6
mouthpiece.  Most off the rack bits come no larger than 5 1/2 inches.

There are other brands that have copied the swivel action of the Myler
bits.  I don't know their names, but they're out there.  Just be careful
of the quality.

Beth

--
Beth Beymer  Sandy North
Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO
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Re: CA State Fair #1 : (

2001-08-21 Thread Northhorse
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How very odd.  I never received the Ca State Fair posts.  Except for Carol's 
response to them.  Anybody else?

Pamela





Re: Which Bit?

2001-08-21 Thread Hope Carlson
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Hi Brigid and all,

For a western curb bit I really like the Linda Tellington Jones bit made by
Sprenger.  Beautifully balanced, made to be ridden with two reins.  The bit
part is fixed, has a port with a copper roller.
Our Liverpool for driving is fixed also, so maybe it is an easy transition
for our ponies.  I ride them alot in a plain full cheek snaffle also, or an
eggbut for the kids riding the ponies in pasture.  They will do everything I
want them to in a snaffle, but when times get tough on the trail it can get
hard for me to turn those stout little necks around as I lack upper body
strength due to nerve damage. A small amount of curb leverage goes a long
way.  The shanks swivel too, which I like esp. for ponies that are not
strictly neck broke.

Hope
N. IL





Driving lessons?

2001-08-21 Thread Anjer Farms
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Hello,

Does anyone know someone in the Saratoga,New York area that teaches driving?

Thanks,
Andrea