Re: Keswick Update

2001-10-05 Thread Northhorse
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> Tomorrow my Church is having a blessing of the animals for St. Francis day 
> and it seem very appropriate for him to attend, my little (well maybe not 
> so 
> 

How wonderful that he's turning out so nicely, and you don't have to warm 
milk for him anymore  Have fun at the Blessing Of The Animals.  I've 
always wanted to do that, but haven't yet.

Pamela





RE: Keswick Update

2001-10-05 Thread FjordAmy
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Sue,

So glad to hear the Keswick (and YOU too!) is doing so well!  

We weaned our Olga on Wednesday this week, she has a two year old for company 
but is still calling for Mom once in a while.  We will be looking for a new 
home for her soon (she is by our grey Bjorn-Knutson), as well as the two year 
old filly and a 12 year old mare (Anvil's Morna - out of 3 generations of 
white duns).  There's just not enough time in the day/week for Dad and I to 
work that many horses!  We really want to concentrate on getting our pair of 
full sisters going as a driving pair!  So, anyone interested in some very 
nice mares let me know!

Amy

Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Redmond, OR
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Re: Keswick Update

2001-10-05 Thread Karen McCarthy

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Sue,
great to hear Mr Kez is doing so well!
I think it is great that he is being ponied behind the cart, etc. and has a 
great companion and disciplinarian in your mustang,Mahogany.
I wonder though, dos he have access to anyone his age to play around with? 
This would be the perfect world by far for him, and it seems though that you 
have come very close to making a perfect world for him allready.
I too have a little orphan: Imilie, born May 20, whose dam Tise passed away 
on July 9th.
I tried the liquid milk replacer thing w/ her (no go) but luckily I had 
introduced her to TDI-10 pellets (of her dams) just a week before, and so 
the idea of eating pellets and hay was not at all foreign to her. She is now 
residing with her grandma, Jorunn, Tise's dam,(who instantly adopted her w/o 
never having seen her before!!) and her grandpa, Sven, in a 5 acre pasture 
w/ her very own stall & paddock (w/ a creep entrance). Maybe i should 
install a Princess phone?!
I am feeding Imilie TDI-16 only now; the vet said to cut out the Milk 
Replacer pellets (Land'o Lakes) and just give her TDI-16 and grassy alfalfa. 
So far, so good, except she seems to have one heck of a belly on her, 
despite worming. The vet said this is perhaps due to her consuming a larger 
qty. of roughage (read:hay) before her system is really used to it,a 
ruminant before her time, so to speak, hence the hay belly.

I fondly refer to her as "my little ruminant".

BTW, I saw nice pictures of Keswick that Les and Margaret Hoagland shared w/ 
me on their way back from their visit w/ you,(they bred their lovely mare 
Hosta back to Sven, and for a month and a half, "Im" had a filly to play 
with, their Kaylee).

Kez looks normal sized to me, either that, or you are a smallish person!

Take care, and good hearing about your boy,



Karen McCarthy
Great Basin Fjords
Carson City, NV



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Subject: Keswick Update
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 20:31:34 EDT

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 It is hard for me to believe but Keswick will be 5 months old tomorrow, 5
months since I lost his beautiful mother Katrina. He is now weaned, no more
milk to warm, no more formula to make, sure made life easier. He is a little
smaller than colts his age but only a little, all I have been reading says
this is not unusual and he should catch up by the time he is 6 months old. 
He
is more mature than colts his age because of so much handling, he leads 
well,

stands tied, he loads in the trailer and is great for the farrier. Kez and I
wander the neighborhood together, sometimes with John (my husband) and
Heather my other Fjord, but most of the time on our own. Nothing seems to
bother him, he is so curious about everything.
Him and Heather play together and she seems to be aware the he is a baby.
Mahogany my mustang is the disciplinarian and he is very respectful of her. 
I

turn him out in the pasture for 2 hours each day with both Heather and
Mahogany. I also pony him behind the cart when I drive Heather.
I wouldn't have chosen this sort of upbringing for him but have really 
worked

hard at doing the very best for him and he seems to be doing very well.
Tomorrow my Church is having a blessing of the animals for St. Francis day
and it seem very appropriate for him to attend, my little (well maybe not so
little) miracle colt.

Sue



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Re: Horsey book at Barnes and Noble

2001-10-05 Thread Epona1971
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Hi Dagrun-

I have that book, and many others : ) I agree that often the Fjord (or other 
breed of horse) pictured in these "breed galleries" is awful looking! One 
would think if you were putting together a book, you'd consult the registry 
of each breed for a good example of "type." Oh well.

Another good book I bought at B&N is The New Book of Saddlery and Tack. I am 
fascinated by the evolution of all kinds of tack. very interesting, and lots 
of harness info.

Happy Fjording (and Reading)

Brigid M Wasson 
San Francisco Bay Area, CA 
 http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our 
http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Fjords
   / )__~  
/L /L  





Re: when to geld?

2001-10-05 Thread Karen McCarthy

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Steve,
excellent advice on gelding post-op managment (of course, your'e the vet!)
One thing my vet has me do on top of what you have allready outlined is a 
little bit of hydrotherapy, er, sppritzing of whats left down there with a 
not too harsh, but steady stream of cool water for appx 5 min. Kinda keeps 
the crud sloughing off, and drainage open...a bit of a challenge for some 
folks when your horse hates to be around the hose & get wet, especially 
THERE! but actually good training in the long run..


Karen McCarthy
Great Basin Fjords
Carson City, NV



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Subject: Re: when to geld?
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:20:00 -0500

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You can geld really anytime you want.  The younger you geld, the easier
it is on them.  Weanlings hardly swell at all when gelded and don't seem
to miss them much.  On average you will get an inch or two more growth if
you geld weanlings compared to gelding them as yearlings or 2 yr. olds.

My usual protocol is that the gelding have stall rest the day that it is
done.  This will help keep them from starting to bleed again.  Then,
starting the second day for about 5-7 days it is important that the horse
get lots of exercise.  This is important to promote drainage and keep the
swelling down.  Now by exercise I mean forced exercise, 15 to 20 mins of
trotting (not just hand walking) every day.

I often get people calling me a couple days after a castration
complaining about the horse being swollen.  I ask if they have been
exercising it and they say "well I've got him turned out in the paddock".
 After biting my tongue hard I remind them politely how I said to force
exercise it daily.  A horse that has just been castrated is going to be
sore and not want to move any more than it has to.  That is why you must
make it work.

Steve



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Keswick Update

2001-10-05 Thread SorgerJ
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 It is hard for me to believe but Keswick will be 5 months old tomorrow, 5 
months since I lost his beautiful mother Katrina. He is now weaned, no more 
milk to warm, no more formula to make, sure made life easier. He is a little 
smaller than colts his age but only a little, all I have been reading says 
this is not unusual and he should catch up by the time he is 6 months old. He 
is more mature than colts his age because of so much handling, he leads well, 
stands tied, he loads in the trailer and is great for the farrier. Kez and I 
wander the neighborhood together, sometimes with John (my husband) and 
Heather my other Fjord, but most of the time on our own. Nothing seems to 
bother him, he is so curious about everything.
Him and Heather play together and she seems to be aware the he is a baby. 
Mahogany my mustang is the disciplinarian and he is very respectful of her. I 
turn him out in the pasture for 2 hours each day with both Heather and 
Mahogany. I also pony him behind the cart when I drive Heather.
I wouldn't have chosen this sort of upbringing for him but have really worked 
hard at doing the very best for him and he seems to be doing very well. 
Tomorrow my Church is having a blessing of the animals for St. Francis day 
and it seem very appropriate for him to attend, my little (well maybe not so 
little) miracle colt. 
  
Sue





Re: when to geld?

2001-10-05 Thread whitedvm
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You can geld really anytime you want.  The younger you geld, the easier
it is on them.  Weanlings hardly swell at all when gelded and don't seem
to miss them much.  On average you will get an inch or two more growth if
you geld weanlings compared to gelding them as yearlings or 2 yr. olds.

My usual protocol is that the gelding have stall rest the day that it is
done.  This will help keep them from starting to bleed again.  Then,
starting the second day for about 5-7 days it is important that the horse
get lots of exercise.  This is important to promote drainage and keep the
swelling down.  Now by exercise I mean forced exercise, 15 to 20 mins of
trotting (not just hand walking) every day.  

I often get people calling me a couple days after a castration
complaining about the horse being swollen.  I ask if they have been
exercising it and they say "well I've got him turned out in the paddock".
 After biting my tongue hard I remind them politely how I said to force
exercise it daily.  A horse that has just been castrated is going to be
sore and not want to move any more than it has to.  That is why you must
make it work.

Steve





Horsey book at Barnes and Noble

2001-10-05 Thread Dagrun Aarsten
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Hi folks,

don't know about you, but I'm addicted to books. Books in general, but
especially horse-related books. Went to Barnes and Noble last night and they
had a HUGE book called "the ultimate book of horse and rider" on special
offer for $19.98. It is enormous and incredibly heavy with lots of glossy
pictures. Quite nice. A bargain!

It has an overview of breeds from around the world. Only the fjord from
Norway, missed the other two breeds we have, but they are not exported as
much. And the pictured fjord was NOT nice. Extremely fat with a short HUGE
neck and a strange "woolen" mane. Looked more like a pig than a horse (sorry
little fjord in the picture, whoever you are...from England I think). But
the text was nice and there was a nice driving picture of a fjord.

Also the tack and saddle section was extremely detailed. Quite nice. Not
much on driving or harness. But still a nice book from what I've seen so
far.

Dagrun (who tries to go to B&N only once a month. First I can't resist
buying books. Then I can't resist reading them (finishing them) immediately
so I forget to eat and drink and sleep. Don't know if there are therapy
groups for this)





RE: when to geld?

2001-10-05 Thread Dagrun Aarsten
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Hi Eunice/Mary,

This is one of the interesting differences between Norway and US. In Norway
the "standard" age to geld a horse is 3 years. This is done (I think) to
allow them to build some more of the muscle that stallions have, and they
will definitely look more masculine than the ones who are gelded very young.
But of course it is more work to keep a stallion up to 3 years. And gelding
at 1 year or so that you do in the US seems to work fine, too. They do seem
to become more compact when gelded late and tall and long-legged when gelded
early.

Dagrun

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hi eunice

we gelded two app/arab colts when they were app 8 months old - we just
turned
them out when finished - it was the fall of year when flies and other
insects
are at a minimum - ours didn't do much running the first few days because, i
suppose, of the discomfort of being gelded

i have been told by several people, vets included, that gelding at an early
age makes the gelding grow taller and somewhat more feminine - i would be
interested if anyone else out there has heard this or has had first hand
experience

leaves are turning in virginia
mary harvey





Re: when to geld?

2001-10-05 Thread Jimaryjmh
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hi eunice

we gelded two app/arab colts when they were app 8 months old - we just turned 
them out when finished - it was the fall of year when flies and other insects 
are at a minimum - ours didn't do much running the first few days because, i 
suppose, of the discomfort of being gelded 

i have been told by several people, vets included, that gelding at an early 
age makes the gelding grow taller and somewhat more feminine - i would be 
interested if anyone else out there has heard this or has had first hand 
experience

leaves are turning in virginia
mary harvey





when to geld?

2001-10-05 Thread John & Eunice Bosomworth
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Hi listers!
 When is the right time to geld?
As long as the testicles are down in a colt(4-5months old) is it OK to geld?
Or is it better to wait until they are at least a year old?   Does it have
any effect on their growth or development?   Would there be any more
problems if done,  for example, at 3 months compared to 2 yrs.?   Is there a
best time of year to geld?   No doubt, best not in very hot weather and when
flies are bad.  Is it right that after being gelded they are to be kept
quiet for the first day then made to run and be active for the next few
days?

Fjordally yours,  Eunice[EMAIL PROTECTED]

John & Eunice Bosomworth
Deere Country Fjords
Ayton, Ontario, CANADA
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Thanksgiving

2001-10-05 Thread John & Eunice Bosomworth
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Happy Thanksgiving to all other listers in Canada.   It is a great time to
pause and count the many blessings that God has given us.We have so much
for which to be thankful!!
Eunice
Deere Country Fjords
in cold and rainy S-W  Ontario





Re: New Member from Sweden

2001-10-05 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 10/4/01 10:54:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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> Hey Pam,
> 
> I think Bob Van Bon's book was in Dutch?
> 

Ah well, I still try to translate as roughly as I can!

Pamela