Re: Keswick Update
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/5/01 5:40:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Tomorrow my Church is having a blessing of the animals for St. Francis day > and it seem very appropriate for him to attend, my little (well maybe not > so > How wonderful that he's turning out so nicely, and you don't have to warm milk for him anymore Have fun at the Blessing Of The Animals. I've always wanted to do that, but haven't yet. Pamela
RE: Keswick Update
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sue, So glad to hear the Keswick (and YOU too!) is doing so well! We weaned our Olga on Wednesday this week, she has a two year old for company but is still calling for Mom once in a while. We will be looking for a new home for her soon (she is by our grey Bjorn-Knutson), as well as the two year old filly and a 12 year old mare (Anvil's Morna - out of 3 generations of white duns). There's just not enough time in the day/week for Dad and I to work that many horses! We really want to concentrate on getting our pair of full sisters going as a driving pair! So, anyone interested in some very nice mares let me know! Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keswick Update
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sue, great to hear Mr Kez is doing so well! I think it is great that he is being ponied behind the cart, etc. and has a great companion and disciplinarian in your mustang,Mahogany. I wonder though, dos he have access to anyone his age to play around with? This would be the perfect world by far for him, and it seems though that you have come very close to making a perfect world for him allready. I too have a little orphan: Imilie, born May 20, whose dam Tise passed away on July 9th. I tried the liquid milk replacer thing w/ her (no go) but luckily I had introduced her to TDI-10 pellets (of her dams) just a week before, and so the idea of eating pellets and hay was not at all foreign to her. She is now residing with her grandma, Jorunn, Tise's dam,(who instantly adopted her w/o never having seen her before!!) and her grandpa, Sven, in a 5 acre pasture w/ her very own stall & paddock (w/ a creep entrance). Maybe i should install a Princess phone?! I am feeding Imilie TDI-16 only now; the vet said to cut out the Milk Replacer pellets (Land'o Lakes) and just give her TDI-16 and grassy alfalfa. So far, so good, except she seems to have one heck of a belly on her, despite worming. The vet said this is perhaps due to her consuming a larger qty. of roughage (read:hay) before her system is really used to it,a ruminant before her time, so to speak, hence the hay belly. I fondly refer to her as "my little ruminant". BTW, I saw nice pictures of Keswick that Les and Margaret Hoagland shared w/ me on their way back from their visit w/ you,(they bred their lovely mare Hosta back to Sven, and for a month and a half, "Im" had a filly to play with, their Kaylee). Kez looks normal sized to me, either that, or you are a smallish person! Take care, and good hearing about your boy, Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords Carson City, NV Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Keswick Update Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 20:31:34 EDT This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is hard for me to believe but Keswick will be 5 months old tomorrow, 5 months since I lost his beautiful mother Katrina. He is now weaned, no more milk to warm, no more formula to make, sure made life easier. He is a little smaller than colts his age but only a little, all I have been reading says this is not unusual and he should catch up by the time he is 6 months old. He is more mature than colts his age because of so much handling, he leads well, stands tied, he loads in the trailer and is great for the farrier. Kez and I wander the neighborhood together, sometimes with John (my husband) and Heather my other Fjord, but most of the time on our own. Nothing seems to bother him, he is so curious about everything. Him and Heather play together and she seems to be aware the he is a baby. Mahogany my mustang is the disciplinarian and he is very respectful of her. I turn him out in the pasture for 2 hours each day with both Heather and Mahogany. I also pony him behind the cart when I drive Heather. I wouldn't have chosen this sort of upbringing for him but have really worked hard at doing the very best for him and he seems to be doing very well. Tomorrow my Church is having a blessing of the animals for St. Francis day and it seem very appropriate for him to attend, my little (well maybe not so little) miracle colt. Sue _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: Horsey book at Barnes and Noble
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Dagrun- I have that book, and many others : ) I agree that often the Fjord (or other breed of horse) pictured in these "breed galleries" is awful looking! One would think if you were putting together a book, you'd consult the registry of each breed for a good example of "type." Oh well. Another good book I bought at B&N is The New Book of Saddlery and Tack. I am fascinated by the evolution of all kinds of tack. very interesting, and lots of harness info. Happy Fjording (and Reading) Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Fjords / )__~ /L /L
Re: when to geld?
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve, excellent advice on gelding post-op managment (of course, your'e the vet!) One thing my vet has me do on top of what you have allready outlined is a little bit of hydrotherapy, er, sppritzing of whats left down there with a not too harsh, but steady stream of cool water for appx 5 min. Kinda keeps the crud sloughing off, and drainage open...a bit of a challenge for some folks when your horse hates to be around the hose & get wet, especially THERE! but actually good training in the long run.. Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords Carson City, NV Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: when to geld? Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:20:00 -0500 This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can geld really anytime you want. The younger you geld, the easier it is on them. Weanlings hardly swell at all when gelded and don't seem to miss them much. On average you will get an inch or two more growth if you geld weanlings compared to gelding them as yearlings or 2 yr. olds. My usual protocol is that the gelding have stall rest the day that it is done. This will help keep them from starting to bleed again. Then, starting the second day for about 5-7 days it is important that the horse get lots of exercise. This is important to promote drainage and keep the swelling down. Now by exercise I mean forced exercise, 15 to 20 mins of trotting (not just hand walking) every day. I often get people calling me a couple days after a castration complaining about the horse being swollen. I ask if they have been exercising it and they say "well I've got him turned out in the paddock". After biting my tongue hard I remind them politely how I said to force exercise it daily. A horse that has just been castrated is going to be sore and not want to move any more than it has to. That is why you must make it work. Steve _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Keswick Update
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is hard for me to believe but Keswick will be 5 months old tomorrow, 5 months since I lost his beautiful mother Katrina. He is now weaned, no more milk to warm, no more formula to make, sure made life easier. He is a little smaller than colts his age but only a little, all I have been reading says this is not unusual and he should catch up by the time he is 6 months old. He is more mature than colts his age because of so much handling, he leads well, stands tied, he loads in the trailer and is great for the farrier. Kez and I wander the neighborhood together, sometimes with John (my husband) and Heather my other Fjord, but most of the time on our own. Nothing seems to bother him, he is so curious about everything. Him and Heather play together and she seems to be aware the he is a baby. Mahogany my mustang is the disciplinarian and he is very respectful of her. I turn him out in the pasture for 2 hours each day with both Heather and Mahogany. I also pony him behind the cart when I drive Heather. I wouldn't have chosen this sort of upbringing for him but have really worked hard at doing the very best for him and he seems to be doing very well. Tomorrow my Church is having a blessing of the animals for St. Francis day and it seem very appropriate for him to attend, my little (well maybe not so little) miracle colt. Sue
Re: when to geld?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can geld really anytime you want. The younger you geld, the easier it is on them. Weanlings hardly swell at all when gelded and don't seem to miss them much. On average you will get an inch or two more growth if you geld weanlings compared to gelding them as yearlings or 2 yr. olds. My usual protocol is that the gelding have stall rest the day that it is done. This will help keep them from starting to bleed again. Then, starting the second day for about 5-7 days it is important that the horse get lots of exercise. This is important to promote drainage and keep the swelling down. Now by exercise I mean forced exercise, 15 to 20 mins of trotting (not just hand walking) every day. I often get people calling me a couple days after a castration complaining about the horse being swollen. I ask if they have been exercising it and they say "well I've got him turned out in the paddock". After biting my tongue hard I remind them politely how I said to force exercise it daily. A horse that has just been castrated is going to be sore and not want to move any more than it has to. That is why you must make it work. Steve
Horsey book at Barnes and Noble
This message is from: "Dagrun Aarsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi folks, don't know about you, but I'm addicted to books. Books in general, but especially horse-related books. Went to Barnes and Noble last night and they had a HUGE book called "the ultimate book of horse and rider" on special offer for $19.98. It is enormous and incredibly heavy with lots of glossy pictures. Quite nice. A bargain! It has an overview of breeds from around the world. Only the fjord from Norway, missed the other two breeds we have, but they are not exported as much. And the pictured fjord was NOT nice. Extremely fat with a short HUGE neck and a strange "woolen" mane. Looked more like a pig than a horse (sorry little fjord in the picture, whoever you are...from England I think). But the text was nice and there was a nice driving picture of a fjord. Also the tack and saddle section was extremely detailed. Quite nice. Not much on driving or harness. But still a nice book from what I've seen so far. Dagrun (who tries to go to B&N only once a month. First I can't resist buying books. Then I can't resist reading them (finishing them) immediately so I forget to eat and drink and sleep. Don't know if there are therapy groups for this)
RE: when to geld?
This message is from: "Dagrun Aarsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Eunice/Mary, This is one of the interesting differences between Norway and US. In Norway the "standard" age to geld a horse is 3 years. This is done (I think) to allow them to build some more of the muscle that stallions have, and they will definitely look more masculine than the ones who are gelded very young. But of course it is more work to keep a stallion up to 3 years. And gelding at 1 year or so that you do in the US seems to work fine, too. They do seem to become more compact when gelded late and tall and long-legged when gelded early. Dagrun -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:18 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: when to geld? This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi eunice we gelded two app/arab colts when they were app 8 months old - we just turned them out when finished - it was the fall of year when flies and other insects are at a minimum - ours didn't do much running the first few days because, i suppose, of the discomfort of being gelded i have been told by several people, vets included, that gelding at an early age makes the gelding grow taller and somewhat more feminine - i would be interested if anyone else out there has heard this or has had first hand experience leaves are turning in virginia mary harvey
Re: when to geld?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi eunice we gelded two app/arab colts when they were app 8 months old - we just turned them out when finished - it was the fall of year when flies and other insects are at a minimum - ours didn't do much running the first few days because, i suppose, of the discomfort of being gelded i have been told by several people, vets included, that gelding at an early age makes the gelding grow taller and somewhat more feminine - i would be interested if anyone else out there has heard this or has had first hand experience leaves are turning in virginia mary harvey
when to geld?
This message is from: "John & Eunice Bosomworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi listers! When is the right time to geld? As long as the testicles are down in a colt(4-5months old) is it OK to geld? Or is it better to wait until they are at least a year old? Does it have any effect on their growth or development? Would there be any more problems if done, for example, at 3 months compared to 2 yrs.? Is there a best time of year to geld? No doubt, best not in very hot weather and when flies are bad. Is it right that after being gelded they are to be kept quiet for the first day then made to run and be active for the next few days? Fjordally yours, Eunice[EMAIL PROTECTED] John & Eunice Bosomworth Deere Country Fjords Ayton, Ontario, CANADA `
Thanksgiving
This message is from: "John & Eunice Bosomworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Happy Thanksgiving to all other listers in Canada. It is a great time to pause and count the many blessings that God has given us.We have so much for which to be thankful!! Eunice Deere Country Fjords in cold and rainy S-W Ontario
Re: New Member from Sweden
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/4/01 10:54:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hey Pam, > > I think Bob Van Bon's book was in Dutch? > Ah well, I still try to translate as roughly as I can! Pamela