Re: Looking for a name

2001-12-12 Thread NordicKees
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Here is what I have found when I type in Norwegian:

Æ=alt 146
Ø= alt 0216
Å= alt 143

æ= alt 0230
ø= alt 0248
å= alt 0229

Hope this helps,
Rondi.






Re: Horse chiropractors.

2001-12-12 Thread NordicKees
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In a message dated 12/12/2001 1:10:57 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< Do you have access to a horse chiropractor or 
 accupuncturist? I have found in several cases with my guys (the majority are 
 Senior citizens) that lameness the Vet couldn't understand was either an 
 adjustment problem (chiropractor ) or deep inflamation that the accupuncture 
 helped. >>

Yes, I too have had good results with a chiropractor.
I have a 21 year old arab who had lameness problems where the vet couldn't 
figure out what it was.  But he did recommend that I contact a chiropractor, 
and sure enough, she was way out of alignment and he adjusted her and she was 
fine again.

It happened two years later again and once again he adjusted her and she has 
been fine again for quite a while.  So yes, I have seen the results and it is 
amazing.

Rondi Tyler.
So. Calif.






Re: the viking horse the Fjord?

2001-12-12 Thread Jean Ernest
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You might try Hans Out in Norway.  Look at his website:
http://home.online.no/~hebden/carriagehistor/History1.htm

and email him:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   for more information.  He may not know
about the vikings, etc. he can offer you some help[ I'm sure.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where we had a dusting of snow and now it's
going to get COLD again!  WE NEED SNOW!

  
>Can anyone tell me where I could read more about the Fjord and the Viking? 
>Are there accounts of Fjords being used, pictures from long, long ago what? 
>I would appreciate a point in the right direction.
>
>Thanks,
>Deb


Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Horse ancestry

2001-12-12 Thread D T

This message is from: "D T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

With all this talk of registering 5 generations of Fjords I have a question. 
Please keep in mind, although that won't be difficult, that I am not a 
breeder.

Does anyone know anything about his lineage:

Buck-34
Freya-38
produced Kinnikinnick-45
and

Stolmann -1
Rita-3
produced Sammi-11

Kinnikinnick and Sammi produced Brawn-66 who is the father of Lars

Now throw in

Suldrup Heid (DM) D329
Lene (DM) D4224
produced Rita-3

Kinnikinnick and Rita produced Buffy who is the mother of Lars

this is quite confusing to me. Can someone explain it?
Deb







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the viking horse the Fjord?

2001-12-12 Thread D T

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I started to do some research about the Vikings and the horses that they 
used. I have just started and the only area on the internet that even deals 
with their horses, that I have found so far, won't let me enter.


Can anyone tell me where I could read more about the Fjord and the Viking? 
Are there accounts of Fjords being used, pictures from long, long ago what? 
I would appreciate a point in the right direction.


Thanks,
Deb



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Re: Back on list!

2001-12-12 Thread Jean Gayle
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Anneli, Could it be so simple as a stone bruise?  I have just been through a
long siege of "founder", "trim", "sore sole" etc.  Many $ later when we put
a pad on the hoof he was immediately sound.  There was a thin part of the
sole where the bruise was.   Jean




Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
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Denny Emerson's article

2001-12-12 Thread wanda m hill
This message is from: wanda m hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This is from Joel Harman.

While improper(no) training of young stock is a high priority to me my
thoughts do not stop there. If one is breeding, the best stock should be
used. However conformation & usability(is that a word?) may be competing
factors. I have seen some very correct horses that were not very usable.
Was this a training defect? I think that is why I like to see age
appropriate training put on young horses.

I will assume most folks are more interested in using horses than
becoming a breeder. My interests lie mainly in farming & logging so I
prefer the draft type fjord. That is what I work towards in my breeding. 

It is good other breeders have different preferences in mind. It still
bothers me folks breed for color but it may bug them I want a draft type
fjord that was used for farming in Norway. 

I agree that pedigrees are helpful in knowing what one may get through a
breeding. I know there are certain lines I prefer not to work with.

As we all know, horses can be an expensive undertaking. Probably one
reason I have chosen to remain small. Time constraints enter to one's
size of operation as well as one's skill level. I have seen some
instances where I question who is working who. 

I am closing before I get in any deeper.

Vivian, I appreciate your bringing this article to our attention. I wish
we could have more discussions on this forum where we educate each other.

Joel Harman
Brass Ring Ranch
Mosier OR   logging & custom farming with
fjords  

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Libby Show

2001-12-12 Thread Knutsen Fjord Farm
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi all -

Brian, yours and Lisa's, knowledgeable comments are doing a lot to draw
readers' attention to the show and to that particular class. Yeah!  I
remember your talking over with Larry Bo what to do if something went awry
with the Random team, and I applaud your continuing emphasis on safety. I
also applaud the effort and ingenuity you always put into setting up a
unique hitch for that class. Are you coming this year? I know in the past
you have alternated years. Thanks for taking the time to send your thoughts.

Also thanks for the kind words about the efforts involved in putting on a
Show. Besides Gayle, who put some of her boundless energy into getting the
show off the ground, your comments include the old, well, long-time,
stalwarts, who have kept the show going, usually sacrificing thereby their
chance to bring horses themselves. I'm sure I will inadvertently leave some
out, but the Johnsons, Webbers, Daytons, Bergies, Hoopes, Andersons &
Rollins's are some that come to mind, as well as your family. I won't
mention Bob Envick, since this is only his 4th year on the committee, as far
as I know

Just kidding. Those of us who are newer at this are trying to learn the
ropes, and are getting wonderful help from Dennis and others. We know that
we will not please everyone, and welcome helpful suggestions, opinions and
even complaints.

Some complaints may be spurious, though, and my son has a system we could
adopt for dealing with those. If one of the young girls he was coaching in
soccer came to him with a certain kind of complaint, he would say, "That's
terrible! Go talk to Charlie [the assistant coach] about it."  Charlie would
listen carefully and then say with concern to the young lady, "I feel your
pain"  Sorry, the devil must have made me write that

As many of you know, I favor inclusiveness, a "both-and" rather than an
"either-or" position on most dilemmas. So, please, let us not have scornful
attitudes toward those who want types of classes that you personally may not
favor. There is room for all.

Off the soap box and on to the hair cut appointment.
Happy Holidays - Peg

Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA
http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/






Re: NFHR Responsibility & 5th generation pedigrees.

2001-12-12 Thread Arthur and Carol Rivoire
This message is from: Arthur and Carol Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello from Carol at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -


>>SUGGESTION #1 - Please remind us from time to time that it is the owner's
>>responsibility to obtain a completed pedigree to the 4th and 5th
>>generations . . . if they want a completed NFHR ped. cert.Speaking
>>personally, it is easy to forget this detail when importing horses.
>
>I can do this.  Where would you suggest I remind people of this?

The Herald - People that might call you prior to importing - Wherever you
can fit such a suggestion in.

>
>>SUGGESTION #2  Perhaps the Registrar could contact the owner if and when he
>>finds a pedigree that's going to have holes in it to the 5th generation.
>>If the horse is an imported horse, then it's simple for the owner to get
>>the information.  Mike can provide the necessary phone and fax numbers.
>
>I can also do this but the owner will have to realize that the Registration 
>will be delayed awaiting the information.

Yes, of course.
>
>
>>SUGGESTION #3 -  It seems the simplest of all would be for the Registrar to
>>contact his counterpart office and request information he needs.
>>Every new bit of pedigree informatioin that goes in the NFHR computers
>>makes ours a better registry  . . . in my opinion.
>
>I agree that the larger our database becomes the better it is & the more 
>useful it is also, but all of that input takes lots of time.  I would love 
>to have all of the Registered Fjords that ever lived in the database but it 
>just isn't possible at this time.  It is still not as easy as you make it 
>sound to get the pedigrees.  If it was just a matter of sending an email & 
>asking for it then it wouldn't be such a big deal.  With some of the 
>registries this is possible but not all of them.
>
>Perhaps you can discuss this problem with Bob van Bon & have him supply a 5 
>generation pedigree for any horse that is exported to the USA or Canada in 
>the future.

I'll do that.  I know you understand, Mike, that I'm just trying to improve
something I see as needing attention.  The point is (as you say) trying to
get as many horses in the data base as possible, and to do it in the most
efficient way possible.

By the way, I checked my book of registration certificates, and five of our
imported horses have completed pedigrees, meaning that when I sent in their
transfer applications, you had all the info in your computer.  One of those
horses came the same year as the one that appeared with all the holes in
her certificate.  The point being that the Registry's data base is very
extensive, and it's only the odd horse that comes up with blanks.  This
being the case, perhaps you could notify the owner, and get that odd horse
taken care of.  

I also noticed that some of our U.S. born and bred mares over 15 years old
have holes in their pedigree certificates.  Two are Solar daughters, and
the other imported in utero.  Most likely, if I send those certificates
back for upgrading, you now have that information in the computers.  

Again, the point is that it's probably a fairly unusual case to come up
with holes in the pedigree, so it wouldn't be a lot of extra work for you
to either take care of it yourself, or contact the owner before completing
the certificate.  Best Regards,Carol



>

Carol and Arthur Rivoire
Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II
R.R. 7 Pomquet
Antigonish County
Nova Scotia
B2G 2L4
902 386 2304
http://www.beaverdamfarm.com






Saddle for Sale

2001-12-12 Thread Fgbrix
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Hi-  I have for sale, an English saddle, all-purpose type, with an EXTRA-wide 
tree, which fits my Fjord, who is kind of  "propane tank" shaped.  The saddle 
is in excellent condition, dark brown, made in England, (Concord brand) 
complete with fittings, including a 56" leather girth.  The seat measures 
18", but feels more like a 17" to me.  E-mail me for pictures,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Thanks!   Deb






Re: pedigrees

2001-12-12 Thread Mariposa Farm
This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"Mike May, Registrar NFHR" wrote:

>
>
> >I have now and
> >then visited your ‘ponyweb’, and I am very impressed with what you
> >have established.
>
>  Thanks
> again Lori & Stefan.
>
> Mike

Yes, thank you Lori & Stefan.  I spend a lot of time on it.  What a resource.

Mark

Mariposa Farm






Re: pedigrees

2001-12-12 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 12:52 PM 12/12/2001 +0100, you wrote:

This message is from: "Birgit Mortensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Mike - the Danish electronic studbook ­ WinHorse ­ is not yet
accessible via the Internet, but we are planning to make it possible.
Till now we have sold it on CD’s and then you update via the Internet.
I think I should be able to send you a CD, so you can see what it is
all about! Apart from the pedigree section we register evaluations,
sport competitions and so on, and of course there is a lot of
possibilities for producing lists of offspring etc.


Sounds something like the database I use here to register the NFHR horses & 
keep track of memberships etc.  I would love a copy of it if that is a 
possibility.



I have now and
then visited your ‘ponyweb’, and I am very impressed with what you
have established.


I wish I could take credit for it but that was developed for the NFHR by 
Lori Albrough & Stefan Vorkoetter.  Lori is a member of the list here.  I 
can't say enough good about the program they wrote for the NFHR.  It sure 
save me a lot of time looking up pedigrees for people these days.  Thanks 
again Lori & Stefan.


Mike


===

Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Executive Director & 
Registrar

Voice 585-872-4114
FAX 585-787-0497

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Off to California

2001-12-12 Thread Mariposa Farm
This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Well Lisa and I are taking our first real vacation in about five years
tomorrow.  We are heading out to my old stomping grounds in northern
California for a week.  We'll be in San Francisco for a couple of days
and then we are renting a car and heading up the coast hitting some neat
B and B's in Gualala and Westport.  Lisa is really looking forward to
seeing the REAL North Coast (sorry Ofjords!), Mendocino, Ft. Bragg etc.

Hope to see some family in Booneville that I haven't seen in 25 years
too.  Booneville is where I learned to ride horses.  They were actually
really mean Shetland ponies that headed for the trees and barb wire
fences trying to knock you off.  If you can stay on one of those you can
ride anything!  We'll end up in the San Rafael area for a night and then
back to northern Wisconsin and the barn chores!

Really great information on the list lately.  I know I'll have lots to
read when I get back.  NOT taking my laptop!!

Yay!!

Mark
Mariposa Farm






Re: Vahalla Singing God

2001-12-12 Thread Mariposa Farm
This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks Catherine
Mark

Lassesen's Computer wrote:

> This message is from: "Lassesen's Computer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Mark,
> I will ask Rune your Valhalla question. He is very versed with Nordic
> Folklore.
>
> Catherine  Lassesen
> Hestehaven






Re: Unique Hitch ( really really long )

2001-12-12 Thread Don Brackett

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lisa, I didn't know which part of your letter to leave to say YEAH to, 
I'd have had to leave all of it.   Someday, when the kids are older and 
I'm not driving around the state to various soccor games etc. I'm going 
to get to Libby. I want to see those unique hitches and farming classes. 
I want to see those perfect, spine tingling moments. I get them myself 
driving just a single horse pulling out a log so I'd love to see those 
big hitches.  I couldn't imagine going to see stick ponies, no matter 
how adorable you must all look! :)

Jane
Maine






Re: Denny Emerson's article

2001-12-12 Thread Don Brackett

This message is from: Don Brackett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Vivian Creigh wrote:


This message is from: Vivian Creigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I reread the article this morning and there was actually so much more to it
than I realized. It says something a little different for all of us.

So true,  a good article.  



the
biggie...what do you expect to pay for a Fjord and on what do you base this
figure?

That is so dependent on the purpose for which you are buying a Fjord.  I 
can speak only for me.  I purchased our Fjords three years ago.  I was 
looking for good using horses, and was not disappointed.  Their training 
and personalities were of first importance.  Their conformation was only 
important for their health (remaining sound) and for their ability to be 
ridden and driven for use, not performance.  Breeding was of no 
importance, beyond producing a healthy sound horse with a good mind. I 
strongly feel that horses without these very basic requirements should 
never be bred.  I was very willing to pay a reasonable price to ensure 
that I was buying a healthy, sound horse, with at least the basics of 
training - well mannered on the ground, very basic riding training. (In 
my case, $3500 and $4200 - I have also noticed that horses seem to be 
much more expensive here on the east coastto bad or we would add 
another Fjord or two)I could not consider a high price that would 
reflect the price I might have expected to pay for a horse to use as a 
breeding animal, or upper level performance.  While my horses might be 
able to perform at higher  levels or worthy of being bred (my mare) I 
did not buy them with that goal.  Therefore I  would not expect to pay 
for that possibility.


I admire all of you who do bred, and/or train and sell horses, it 
couldn't be easy as the article points out and I imagine that you could 
never charge  enough to pay for your time.  I think that is also an 
inherent fact in any livestock farming.  It's also a life style choice 
that has it's own non monitory rewards.


Jane
Maine






pedigrees

2001-12-12 Thread Birgit Mortensen
This message is from: "Birgit Mortensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello list from Birgit in Denmark

Pedigrees are a very interesting topic to discuss, and moreover it is
so essential when you are a breeder. Thank you to the list for hosting
this discussion.

Digest – 320

Sorry Carol, but I very much agree with NFHR that a registrar is not
responsible for locating and obtaining five-generation pedigrees on
imported Fjordhorses.

If a member of the Danish fjordhorse world is purchasing a Fjordhorse
from abroad I expect the purchaser to make sure that the seller
provides the necessary information. If the country where the
Fjordhorse comes from is issuing pedigrees with only 3 generations,
which has been very normal in many years, the registry in this country
can easily give information about 2 more generations to the seller. I
do not expect (or accept) the seller giving the information in his own
handwriting!!

The seller gives this information to the purchaser and he or she gives
the information to the new registry. If doubts about anything the two
registries can discuss the information. If no doubts the new registry
can easily enter the ‘lacking horses’ in their database.


Digest – 322
Hello Sophie. I just realized that your new mare from Denmark – Thilde
– has left Denmark with 3 generations pedigree. We will see to that
you get 2 more generations, - since you like the research from
studbooks (and I agree with you, it is fascinating), you might always
control us!!!

Brian, I so very much agree with you. It would be terrific to have a
worldwide database. With Norway being the mother country of our breed
I think they should establish and maintain the database, but I do not
know how realistic this is. I do not consider it a job for FHI, which
has no studbook authority, - and probably no money!!!

In Denmark we have developed an electronic studbook, based on the
Danish fjordhorses. At the moment we have about 15.000 fjordhorses in
the database, most of them Danish but also some Norwegian when our
horses have antecedents in Norway, and a lot of them has. But the
database could be much bigger, if we entered our ‘old fjords’. It is
just a question about time (should perhaps be living in Alaska, where
the days are short in the winter and the dark evenings long!). With
this years evaluations we have reached mare number FJ 10.054 (I should
think that at least 8000 of them is not in our electronic studbook,
but they can be found in 60 years printed studbooks) and our last
evaluated stallion has number FJH 715 (most of them have been
entered). Apart from the evaluated group we have (during the many
years with a registry) a lot of fjordhorses with a pedigree but no
evaluation.

Digest 323
Eike - thank you for explaining the European situation. If there are
holes in our pedigrees the only reason is that the parents of a
certain horse are unknown.

Mike - the Danish electronic studbook – WinHorse – is not yet
accessible via the Internet, but we are planning to make it possible.
Till now we have sold it on CD’s and then you update via the Internet.
I think I should be able to send you a CD, so you can see what it is
all about! Apart from the pedigree section we register evaluations,
sport competitions and so on, and of course there is a lot of
possibilities for producing lists of offspring etc. I have now and
then visited your ‘ponyweb’, and I am very impressed with what you
have established. I have not yet visited the Canadian pedigree lookup
site, but I hope to be able to it later today.


Birgit Mortensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Norddalen 9, Sankt Klemens, DK-5260 Odense S, Denmark






Re: fjordhorse-digest V2001 #324

2001-12-12 Thread Diane McCracken
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Re: Denny Emerson's article re. breeding

2001-12-12 Thread Lori Albrough
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks for posting that link Vivian. Interesting reading and I found lots
more interesting stuff on that web site also. I couldn't help going back and
reading the archived articles of both Denny E. and Anne Gribbons (dressage
coach). If anyone else wants to check them out, I found them at
http://www.chronofhorse.com/bw_rounds/01/

Well I'm getting behind on the conversation on Denny's article but I did
want to contribute. Finally I have some time to write as Wednesday is my
horses' day off so its kind of my day off too. During which I plan to clean
paddocks and sweep cobwebs :-)

To try to answer some of Vivian's questions: when we got our first fjords we
were looking for well-bred well-conformed fairly athletic individuals with
good temperaments  isn't everyone? :-) After riding for 20+ years I have
within the last year and a half found a good coach to teach me dressage and
this has been a long time dream of mine. Having the opportunity to ride with
and hang out with such excellent riders, on the level of Olympic and Pan-Am
trialists, makes me feel very lucky but also broadens my perspectives of
what qualities I want in a horse. Certainly I want horse with free movement,
three decent gaits, and a forward thinker, but also "ride-ability" -- which
is a hard to define concept but basically the horses willingness to submit
himself to the trainer, even when the going gets tough and the work gets
challenging. 

Perhaps this is best shown by an example, at my coach's barn there are two
big lovely warmbloods both being ridden by young riders at the FEI level.
One horse however has better gaits than the other, a loftier more expressive
canter, and a better trot also. But this horse is a bugger to ride. He
doesn't like to work through, he is always testing his (very good) rider,
and you can't count on him to be willing to work. Guess which one made it
onto the Young Riders team this year? The first one - because he is
ride-able ... almost anyone with some training can get on this horse and he
will work for them. That is a quality I want in my horses and want to
propagate - unfortunately it does take a very long time to determine if a
horse has this, because it is not until the work gets quite challenging that
you know how the horse is going to respond to it. How "sweet" a horse is
while standing in the stall or paddock is no clue. But certainly if you see
a horse that has been competing with some success in open shows at an
intermediate or advanced level this is a major clue to that facet of the
horses temperament.

This quality will certainly be heritable, as it says in one of Denny's other
articles: "The two most influential trainers a horse will ever have are his
sire and his dam".

On a personal level, in addition to dressage I also enjoy some trail riding,
gallops around the hay field, and pleasure drives out on the road - I am
glad that Fjords are a breed that can do all this so well and this
well-rounded individual is the goal of our breeding and training program.

Lori Albrough

Moorefield Ontario
http://www.bluebirdlane.com






Suggestion #3

2001-12-12 Thread Lassesen's Computer
This message is from: "Lassesen's Computer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Beth,

NFHR is trying to establish an open communication with the other countries
registrars. There is a language barrier that FHI (Fjord Horse International)
has been working on. An international Fjord dictionary.

Things take time. Specially in Europe where tradition is "respecting the
words written on paper".. in reference to change.

Thank you for your input.

Catherine Lassesen






Vahalla Singing God

2001-12-12 Thread Lassesen's Computer
This message is from: "Lassesen's Computer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mark,
I will ask Rune your Valhalla question. He is very versed with Nordic
Folklore.

Catherine  Lassesen
Hestehaven






Re: Back on list!

2001-12-12 Thread Fhtrp
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Hi Anneli,
  I'm very new to the list but enjoy it thoroughly. I saw your note 
about the lameness. Do you have access to a horse chiropractor or 
accupuncturist? I have found in several cases with my guys (the majority are 
Senior citizens) that lameness the Vet couldn't understand was either an 
adjustment problem (chiropractor ) or deep inflamation that the accupuncture 
helped.
  I keep reading about the Libby Show - where is it and when is it next 
year? I would love to try and come and if I make it I would volunteer where I 
could. I do understand the need for volunteers and never having enough as I 
have been a Therapeutic Riding Instructor for over 20 years. Gosh that makes 
me sound old.
 Also I am waiting for the specs on a new saddle called the Haflinger - 
hope it may be wide enough for Nina Bean (as my 3 year old niece KayLeigh 
calls her).

 Happy Holidays to all,
Robyn from MD 
still pretty warm for us   my impatients are still blooming on the front 
porch looks a little strange with Christmas Lights.

Freedom Hills Therapeutic Riding Program
Port Deposit, MD.






Re: Back on list!

2001-12-12 Thread ruth bushnell
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> After having spent the summer in Norway and the fall not having time to
re-introduce myself to the list, it is time to break the silence.  I'm now
back home again

 The horses are pretty good - but Tina's lame and the vets don't know what
the problem is.  I have no idea and the vets seems rather
confused - a perfectly healthy horse, but lame!

> So, there's an Anneli-update! I'll try to be more visible on the list from
now on!
>
> Anneli
===
 Anneli, Welcome Back!

I was wondering when we'd be hearing from you again and I'm glad to know
that all goes well with you, save for Tina's lameness.. that's sure too
bad-- hope it passes soon, maybe just a sprain.

I'll look forward to your postings!

Best regards, Ruthie, nw mt






fjordhorse-digest V2001 #324

2001-12-12 Thread fjordhorse-digest

fjordhorse-digestWednesday, December 12 2001Volume 2001 : Number 324



In this issue:

   Re: 5 Generation Pedigree - NFHR Responsibility?
   fjord saddle
   Re: 5 Generation Pedigree - NFHR Responsibility?
   Looking for a name
   Re: Looking for a name
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   Re: 5 Generation Pedigree - NFHR Responsibility?
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 07:41:47 -0400
From: Arthur and Carol Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 5 Generation Pedigree - NFHR Responsibility?

This message is from: Arthur and Carol Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Good Morning from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -

Just a few points to clear up -

The horses we import are all duly registered with the Dutch Fjord Studbook,
and come with their official Passport, which has a 3 generation pedigree
printed, includes a DNA certtificate, Dutch Registraion number, and
microchip barcode.  ---  The official Dutch Passport is set up for only 3
generations.  However, if I wanted 5 generations, I could ask for it and
get it.  

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'LL DO IN THE FUTURE because it annoys the hell
out of me to see a pedigree certificate not fully filled in, particularly
since I know the information is there for the asking. 

SUGGESTION #1 - Please remind us from time to time that it is the owner's
responsibility to obtain a completed pedigree to the 4th and 5th
generations . . . if they want a completed NFHR ped. cert.Speaking
personally, it is easy to forget this detail when importing horses.


SUGGESTION #2  Perhaps the Registrar could contact the owner if and when he
finds a pedigree that's going to have holes in it to the 5th generation.
If the horse is an imported horse, then it's simple for the owner to get
the information.  Mike can provide the necessary phone and fax numbers.  

SUGGESTION #3 -  It seems the simplest of all would be for the Registrar to
contact his counterpart office and request information he needs.
Every new bit of pedigree informatioin that goes in the NFHR computers
makes ours a better registry  . . . in my opinion.  

Another benefit would be to have the various Registries maintain a good
working relationship with each other.

Regards,  Carol Rivoire 


Carol and Arthur Rivoire
Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II
R.R. 7 Pomquet
Antigonish County
Nova Scotia
B2G 2L4
902 386 2304
http://www.beaverdamfarm.com

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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 05:04:55 -0700
From: "TERRENCE GURIEL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fjord saddle

This message is from: "TERRENCE GURIEL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Howdy,

I'm new to the list and a new fjord owner.

I have a question on saddle type. What works best on these horses? I am using
a wide bar full quarter horse saddle and it just rolls around. Not enough
withers on the horse to lock it in place.

Has anyone used the saddle offered on the International Fjord Horse web page?

Thanks

Quigley
Colorado

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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 07:57:28 -0500
From: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 5 Generation Pedigree - NFHR Responsibility?

This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 07:41 AM 12/11/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>This message is from: Arthur and Carol Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'LL DO IN THE FUTURE because it annoys the hell 
>out of me to see a pedigree certificate not fully filled in, particularly
>since I know the information is there for the asking.
>
>SUGGESTION #1 - Please remind us from time to time that it is the owner's
>responsibility to obtain a completed pedigree to the 4th and 5th
>generations . . . if they want a completed NFHR ped. cert.Speaking
>personally, it is easy to forget this detail when importing horses.

I can do this.  Where would you suggest I remind people of this?

>SUGGESTION #2  Perhaps the Registrar could contact the owner if and when he
>finds a pedigree that's going to have holes in it to the 5th generation.
>If the horse is an imported horse, then it's simple for the owner to get
>the information.  Mike can pro

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2001-12-12 Thread BaileysFjords
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Anneli,

Welcome back, we missed you!

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm
White Cloud, MI
231-689-9902
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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2001-12-12 Thread Anneli Sundkvist
This message is from: "Anneli Sundkvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

After having spent the summer in Norway and the fall not having time to 
re-introduce myself to the list, it is time to break the silence.

I'm now back home again. The summer in Norway, where I worked on an 
archaeological excavation, was good, but I missed my horses. I actually saw 
very few fjords in Norway! Where are they? Not in Vestfold I guess.;o)

Now, I'm trying to start a research project + teaches students. The horses are 
pretty good - but Tina's lame and the vets don't know what the problem is. They 
can't find anything on X-ray, her legs look fine, bending-tests of the joints 
don't make her worse (it there was a joint-problem it would), no signs of 
founder if you look at the X-ray results or her hooves. She is pregnant too 
(sire: Knast Halsnaes) and reluctant to needles in general, so not all tests 
can be made. She is out in a paddock with one other horse every day and 
actually looks pretty ok, but this is really making ME sad, not knowing what 
the problem is. She foundered in may and was finally fit one this problem 
turned up over a day, two months ago. I have no idea and the vets seems rather 
confused - a perfectly healthy horse, but lame!

Cider, on the other hand, is doing fine and we've been to our 3rd clinic with 
the classical dressagetrainer Bent Branderup. We've also gotten ourselves a 
"home-trainer" who visits every second week. She is also into classical 
dressage and used to own a fjord.

So, there's an Anneli-update! I'll try to be more visible on the list from now 
on!

Anneli
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Anneli Sundkvist
Department of Archaeology & Ancient History
Uppsala University
St. Eriks Torg 5
S-753 10 Uppsala
Sweden
Phone: +46-18-4716236






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2001-12-12 Thread BaileysFjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Jean,

So, is THAT how one does umlauts!  Thanks for the tip!!  You could be right 
about "whew", as I said before, it seems to be conjecture between academics, 
apparently, as to how the e would be pronounced.  I personally use "need" as 
I am just too American.  LOL  I will have to write my old professor and ask 
his thoughts.

Lynda

Lynda and Daniel

Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm
White Cloud, MI
231.689.9902
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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2001-12-12 Thread Alison Bakken
This message is from: Alison Bakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Ursula and Brian,

How much are the tapes of the Libby show?  I hope to get down to watch
next year, since Spruce Meadow and Libby are not in conflit for once.  

We are getting some snow.  I hope to start working horses after
Christmas.

Have a wonderful Christmas.

Alison Bakken
Sundre, Alberta