Re: Looking for a name
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is what I have found when I type in Norwegian: Æ=alt 146 Ø= alt 0216 Å= alt 143 æ= alt 0230 ø= alt 0248 å= alt 0229 Hope this helps, Rondi.
Re: Horse chiropractors.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/12/2001 1:10:57 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Do you have access to a horse chiropractor or accupuncturist? I have found in several cases with my guys (the majority are Senior citizens) that lameness the Vet couldn't understand was either an adjustment problem (chiropractor ) or deep inflamation that the accupuncture helped. >> Yes, I too have had good results with a chiropractor. I have a 21 year old arab who had lameness problems where the vet couldn't figure out what it was. But he did recommend that I contact a chiropractor, and sure enough, she was way out of alignment and he adjusted her and she was fine again. It happened two years later again and once again he adjusted her and she has been fine again for quite a while. So yes, I have seen the results and it is amazing. Rondi Tyler. So. Calif.
Re: the viking horse the Fjord?
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You might try Hans Out in Norway. Look at his website: http://home.online.no/~hebden/carriagehistor/History1.htm and email him: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information. He may not know about the vikings, etc. he can offer you some help[ I'm sure. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where we had a dusting of snow and now it's going to get COLD again! WE NEED SNOW! >Can anyone tell me where I could read more about the Fjord and the Viking? >Are there accounts of Fjords being used, pictures from long, long ago what? >I would appreciate a point in the right direction. > >Thanks, >Deb Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Horse ancestry
This message is from: "D T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> With all this talk of registering 5 generations of Fjords I have a question. Please keep in mind, although that won't be difficult, that I am not a breeder. Does anyone know anything about his lineage: Buck-34 Freya-38 produced Kinnikinnick-45 and Stolmann -1 Rita-3 produced Sammi-11 Kinnikinnick and Sammi produced Brawn-66 who is the father of Lars Now throw in Suldrup Heid (DM) D329 Lene (DM) D4224 produced Rita-3 Kinnikinnick and Rita produced Buffy who is the mother of Lars this is quite confusing to me. Can someone explain it? Deb _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
the viking horse the Fjord?
This message is from: "D T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I started to do some research about the Vikings and the horses that they used. I have just started and the only area on the internet that even deals with their horses, that I have found so far, won't let me enter. Can anyone tell me where I could read more about the Fjord and the Viking? Are there accounts of Fjords being used, pictures from long, long ago what? I would appreciate a point in the right direction. Thanks, Deb _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: Back on list!
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anneli, Could it be so simple as a stone bruise? I have just been through a long siege of "founder", "trim", "sore sole" etc. Many $ later when we put a pad on the hoof he was immediately sound. There was a thin part of the sole where the bruise was. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Denny Emerson's article
This message is from: wanda m hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is from Joel Harman. While improper(no) training of young stock is a high priority to me my thoughts do not stop there. If one is breeding, the best stock should be used. However conformation & usability(is that a word?) may be competing factors. I have seen some very correct horses that were not very usable. Was this a training defect? I think that is why I like to see age appropriate training put on young horses. I will assume most folks are more interested in using horses than becoming a breeder. My interests lie mainly in farming & logging so I prefer the draft type fjord. That is what I work towards in my breeding. It is good other breeders have different preferences in mind. It still bothers me folks breed for color but it may bug them I want a draft type fjord that was used for farming in Norway. I agree that pedigrees are helpful in knowing what one may get through a breeding. I know there are certain lines I prefer not to work with. As we all know, horses can be an expensive undertaking. Probably one reason I have chosen to remain small. Time constraints enter to one's size of operation as well as one's skill level. I have seen some instances where I question who is working who. I am closing before I get in any deeper. Vivian, I appreciate your bringing this article to our attention. I wish we could have more discussions on this forum where we educate each other. Joel Harman Brass Ring Ranch Mosier OR logging & custom farming with fjords GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.
Libby Show
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all - Brian, yours and Lisa's, knowledgeable comments are doing a lot to draw readers' attention to the show and to that particular class. Yeah! I remember your talking over with Larry Bo what to do if something went awry with the Random team, and I applaud your continuing emphasis on safety. I also applaud the effort and ingenuity you always put into setting up a unique hitch for that class. Are you coming this year? I know in the past you have alternated years. Thanks for taking the time to send your thoughts. Also thanks for the kind words about the efforts involved in putting on a Show. Besides Gayle, who put some of her boundless energy into getting the show off the ground, your comments include the old, well, long-time, stalwarts, who have kept the show going, usually sacrificing thereby their chance to bring horses themselves. I'm sure I will inadvertently leave some out, but the Johnsons, Webbers, Daytons, Bergies, Hoopes, Andersons & Rollins's are some that come to mind, as well as your family. I won't mention Bob Envick, since this is only his 4th year on the committee, as far as I know Just kidding. Those of us who are newer at this are trying to learn the ropes, and are getting wonderful help from Dennis and others. We know that we will not please everyone, and welcome helpful suggestions, opinions and even complaints. Some complaints may be spurious, though, and my son has a system we could adopt for dealing with those. If one of the young girls he was coaching in soccer came to him with a certain kind of complaint, he would say, "That's terrible! Go talk to Charlie [the assistant coach] about it." Charlie would listen carefully and then say with concern to the young lady, "I feel your pain" Sorry, the devil must have made me write that As many of you know, I favor inclusiveness, a "both-and" rather than an "either-or" position on most dilemmas. So, please, let us not have scornful attitudes toward those who want types of classes that you personally may not favor. There is room for all. Off the soap box and on to the hair cut appointment. Happy Holidays - Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Re: NFHR Responsibility & 5th generation pedigrees.
This message is from: Arthur and Carol Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello from Carol at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - >>SUGGESTION #1 - Please remind us from time to time that it is the owner's >>responsibility to obtain a completed pedigree to the 4th and 5th >>generations . . . if they want a completed NFHR ped. cert.Speaking >>personally, it is easy to forget this detail when importing horses. > >I can do this. Where would you suggest I remind people of this? The Herald - People that might call you prior to importing - Wherever you can fit such a suggestion in. > >>SUGGESTION #2 Perhaps the Registrar could contact the owner if and when he >>finds a pedigree that's going to have holes in it to the 5th generation. >>If the horse is an imported horse, then it's simple for the owner to get >>the information. Mike can provide the necessary phone and fax numbers. > >I can also do this but the owner will have to realize that the Registration >will be delayed awaiting the information. Yes, of course. > > >>SUGGESTION #3 - It seems the simplest of all would be for the Registrar to >>contact his counterpart office and request information he needs. >>Every new bit of pedigree informatioin that goes in the NFHR computers >>makes ours a better registry . . . in my opinion. > >I agree that the larger our database becomes the better it is & the more >useful it is also, but all of that input takes lots of time. I would love >to have all of the Registered Fjords that ever lived in the database but it >just isn't possible at this time. It is still not as easy as you make it >sound to get the pedigrees. If it was just a matter of sending an email & >asking for it then it wouldn't be such a big deal. With some of the >registries this is possible but not all of them. > >Perhaps you can discuss this problem with Bob van Bon & have him supply a 5 >generation pedigree for any horse that is exported to the USA or Canada in >the future. I'll do that. I know you understand, Mike, that I'm just trying to improve something I see as needing attention. The point is (as you say) trying to get as many horses in the data base as possible, and to do it in the most efficient way possible. By the way, I checked my book of registration certificates, and five of our imported horses have completed pedigrees, meaning that when I sent in their transfer applications, you had all the info in your computer. One of those horses came the same year as the one that appeared with all the holes in her certificate. The point being that the Registry's data base is very extensive, and it's only the odd horse that comes up with blanks. This being the case, perhaps you could notify the owner, and get that odd horse taken care of. I also noticed that some of our U.S. born and bred mares over 15 years old have holes in their pedigree certificates. Two are Solar daughters, and the other imported in utero. Most likely, if I send those certificates back for upgrading, you now have that information in the computers. Again, the point is that it's probably a fairly unusual case to come up with holes in the pedigree, so it wouldn't be a lot of extra work for you to either take care of it yourself, or contact the owner before completing the certificate. Best Regards,Carol > Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www.beaverdamfarm.com
Saddle for Sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi- I have for sale, an English saddle, all-purpose type, with an EXTRA-wide tree, which fits my Fjord, who is kind of "propane tank" shaped. The saddle is in excellent condition, dark brown, made in England, (Concord brand) complete with fittings, including a 56" leather girth. The seat measures 18", but feels more like a 17" to me. E-mail me for pictures, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Deb
Re: pedigrees
This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" wrote: > > > >I have now and > >then visited your ponyweb, and I am very impressed with what you > >have established. > > Thanks > again Lori & Stefan. > > Mike Yes, thank you Lori & Stefan. I spend a lot of time on it. What a resource. Mark Mariposa Farm
Re: pedigrees
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 12:52 PM 12/12/2001 +0100, you wrote: This message is from: "Birgit Mortensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike - the Danish electronic studbook WinHorse is not yet accessible via the Internet, but we are planning to make it possible. Till now we have sold it on CDs and then you update via the Internet. I think I should be able to send you a CD, so you can see what it is all about! Apart from the pedigree section we register evaluations, sport competitions and so on, and of course there is a lot of possibilities for producing lists of offspring etc. Sounds something like the database I use here to register the NFHR horses & keep track of memberships etc. I would love a copy of it if that is a possibility. I have now and then visited your ponyweb, and I am very impressed with what you have established. I wish I could take credit for it but that was developed for the NFHR by Lori Albrough & Stefan Vorkoetter. Lori is a member of the list here. I can't say enough good about the program they wrote for the NFHR. It sure save me a lot of time looking up pedigrees for people these days. Thanks again Lori & Stefan. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Off to California
This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well Lisa and I are taking our first real vacation in about five years tomorrow. We are heading out to my old stomping grounds in northern California for a week. We'll be in San Francisco for a couple of days and then we are renting a car and heading up the coast hitting some neat B and B's in Gualala and Westport. Lisa is really looking forward to seeing the REAL North Coast (sorry Ofjords!), Mendocino, Ft. Bragg etc. Hope to see some family in Booneville that I haven't seen in 25 years too. Booneville is where I learned to ride horses. They were actually really mean Shetland ponies that headed for the trees and barb wire fences trying to knock you off. If you can stay on one of those you can ride anything! We'll end up in the San Rafael area for a night and then back to northern Wisconsin and the barn chores! Really great information on the list lately. I know I'll have lots to read when I get back. NOT taking my laptop!! Yay!! Mark Mariposa Farm
Re: Vahalla Singing God
This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Catherine Mark Lassesen's Computer wrote: > This message is from: "Lassesen's Computer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Mark, > I will ask Rune your Valhalla question. He is very versed with Nordic > Folklore. > > Catherine Lassesen > Hestehaven
Re: Unique Hitch ( really really long )
This message is from: Don Brackett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lisa, I didn't know which part of your letter to leave to say YEAH to, I'd have had to leave all of it. Someday, when the kids are older and I'm not driving around the state to various soccor games etc. I'm going to get to Libby. I want to see those unique hitches and farming classes. I want to see those perfect, spine tingling moments. I get them myself driving just a single horse pulling out a log so I'd love to see those big hitches. I couldn't imagine going to see stick ponies, no matter how adorable you must all look! :) Jane Maine
Re: Denny Emerson's article
This message is from: Don Brackett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vivian Creigh wrote: This message is from: Vivian Creigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I reread the article this morning and there was actually so much more to it than I realized. It says something a little different for all of us. So true, a good article. the biggie...what do you expect to pay for a Fjord and on what do you base this figure? That is so dependent on the purpose for which you are buying a Fjord. I can speak only for me. I purchased our Fjords three years ago. I was looking for good using horses, and was not disappointed. Their training and personalities were of first importance. Their conformation was only important for their health (remaining sound) and for their ability to be ridden and driven for use, not performance. Breeding was of no importance, beyond producing a healthy sound horse with a good mind. I strongly feel that horses without these very basic requirements should never be bred. I was very willing to pay a reasonable price to ensure that I was buying a healthy, sound horse, with at least the basics of training - well mannered on the ground, very basic riding training. (In my case, $3500 and $4200 - I have also noticed that horses seem to be much more expensive here on the east coastto bad or we would add another Fjord or two)I could not consider a high price that would reflect the price I might have expected to pay for a horse to use as a breeding animal, or upper level performance. While my horses might be able to perform at higher levels or worthy of being bred (my mare) I did not buy them with that goal. Therefore I would not expect to pay for that possibility. I admire all of you who do bred, and/or train and sell horses, it couldn't be easy as the article points out and I imagine that you could never charge enough to pay for your time. I think that is also an inherent fact in any livestock farming. It's also a life style choice that has it's own non monitory rewards. Jane Maine
pedigrees
This message is from: "Birgit Mortensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello list from Birgit in Denmark Pedigrees are a very interesting topic to discuss, and moreover it is so essential when you are a breeder. Thank you to the list for hosting this discussion. Digest 320 Sorry Carol, but I very much agree with NFHR that a registrar is not responsible for locating and obtaining five-generation pedigrees on imported Fjordhorses. If a member of the Danish fjordhorse world is purchasing a Fjordhorse from abroad I expect the purchaser to make sure that the seller provides the necessary information. If the country where the Fjordhorse comes from is issuing pedigrees with only 3 generations, which has been very normal in many years, the registry in this country can easily give information about 2 more generations to the seller. I do not expect (or accept) the seller giving the information in his own handwriting!! The seller gives this information to the purchaser and he or she gives the information to the new registry. If doubts about anything the two registries can discuss the information. If no doubts the new registry can easily enter the lacking horses in their database. Digest 322 Hello Sophie. I just realized that your new mare from Denmark Thilde has left Denmark with 3 generations pedigree. We will see to that you get 2 more generations, - since you like the research from studbooks (and I agree with you, it is fascinating), you might always control us!!! Brian, I so very much agree with you. It would be terrific to have a worldwide database. With Norway being the mother country of our breed I think they should establish and maintain the database, but I do not know how realistic this is. I do not consider it a job for FHI, which has no studbook authority, - and probably no money!!! In Denmark we have developed an electronic studbook, based on the Danish fjordhorses. At the moment we have about 15.000 fjordhorses in the database, most of them Danish but also some Norwegian when our horses have antecedents in Norway, and a lot of them has. But the database could be much bigger, if we entered our old fjords. It is just a question about time (should perhaps be living in Alaska, where the days are short in the winter and the dark evenings long!). With this years evaluations we have reached mare number FJ 10.054 (I should think that at least 8000 of them is not in our electronic studbook, but they can be found in 60 years printed studbooks) and our last evaluated stallion has number FJH 715 (most of them have been entered). Apart from the evaluated group we have (during the many years with a registry) a lot of fjordhorses with a pedigree but no evaluation. Digest 323 Eike - thank you for explaining the European situation. If there are holes in our pedigrees the only reason is that the parents of a certain horse are unknown. Mike - the Danish electronic studbook WinHorse is not yet accessible via the Internet, but we are planning to make it possible. Till now we have sold it on CDs and then you update via the Internet. I think I should be able to send you a CD, so you can see what it is all about! Apart from the pedigree section we register evaluations, sport competitions and so on, and of course there is a lot of possibilities for producing lists of offspring etc. I have now and then visited your ponyweb, and I am very impressed with what you have established. I have not yet visited the Canadian pedigree lookup site, but I hope to be able to it later today. Birgit Mortensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Norddalen 9, Sankt Klemens, DK-5260 Odense S, Denmark
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2001 #324
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Re: Denny Emerson's article re. breeding
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for posting that link Vivian. Interesting reading and I found lots more interesting stuff on that web site also. I couldn't help going back and reading the archived articles of both Denny E. and Anne Gribbons (dressage coach). If anyone else wants to check them out, I found them at http://www.chronofhorse.com/bw_rounds/01/ Well I'm getting behind on the conversation on Denny's article but I did want to contribute. Finally I have some time to write as Wednesday is my horses' day off so its kind of my day off too. During which I plan to clean paddocks and sweep cobwebs :-) To try to answer some of Vivian's questions: when we got our first fjords we were looking for well-bred well-conformed fairly athletic individuals with good temperaments isn't everyone? :-) After riding for 20+ years I have within the last year and a half found a good coach to teach me dressage and this has been a long time dream of mine. Having the opportunity to ride with and hang out with such excellent riders, on the level of Olympic and Pan-Am trialists, makes me feel very lucky but also broadens my perspectives of what qualities I want in a horse. Certainly I want horse with free movement, three decent gaits, and a forward thinker, but also "ride-ability" -- which is a hard to define concept but basically the horses willingness to submit himself to the trainer, even when the going gets tough and the work gets challenging. Perhaps this is best shown by an example, at my coach's barn there are two big lovely warmbloods both being ridden by young riders at the FEI level. One horse however has better gaits than the other, a loftier more expressive canter, and a better trot also. But this horse is a bugger to ride. He doesn't like to work through, he is always testing his (very good) rider, and you can't count on him to be willing to work. Guess which one made it onto the Young Riders team this year? The first one - because he is ride-able ... almost anyone with some training can get on this horse and he will work for them. That is a quality I want in my horses and want to propagate - unfortunately it does take a very long time to determine if a horse has this, because it is not until the work gets quite challenging that you know how the horse is going to respond to it. How "sweet" a horse is while standing in the stall or paddock is no clue. But certainly if you see a horse that has been competing with some success in open shows at an intermediate or advanced level this is a major clue to that facet of the horses temperament. This quality will certainly be heritable, as it says in one of Denny's other articles: "The two most influential trainers a horse will ever have are his sire and his dam". On a personal level, in addition to dressage I also enjoy some trail riding, gallops around the hay field, and pleasure drives out on the road - I am glad that Fjords are a breed that can do all this so well and this well-rounded individual is the goal of our breeding and training program. Lori Albrough Moorefield Ontario http://www.bluebirdlane.com
Suggestion #3
This message is from: "Lassesen's Computer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Beth, NFHR is trying to establish an open communication with the other countries registrars. There is a language barrier that FHI (Fjord Horse International) has been working on. An international Fjord dictionary. Things take time. Specially in Europe where tradition is "respecting the words written on paper".. in reference to change. Thank you for your input. Catherine Lassesen
Vahalla Singing God
This message is from: "Lassesen's Computer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark, I will ask Rune your Valhalla question. He is very versed with Nordic Folklore. Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven
Re: Back on list!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Anneli, I'm very new to the list but enjoy it thoroughly. I saw your note about the lameness. Do you have access to a horse chiropractor or accupuncturist? I have found in several cases with my guys (the majority are Senior citizens) that lameness the Vet couldn't understand was either an adjustment problem (chiropractor ) or deep inflamation that the accupuncture helped. I keep reading about the Libby Show - where is it and when is it next year? I would love to try and come and if I make it I would volunteer where I could. I do understand the need for volunteers and never having enough as I have been a Therapeutic Riding Instructor for over 20 years. Gosh that makes me sound old. Also I am waiting for the specs on a new saddle called the Haflinger - hope it may be wide enough for Nina Bean (as my 3 year old niece KayLeigh calls her). Happy Holidays to all, Robyn from MD still pretty warm for us my impatients are still blooming on the front porch looks a little strange with Christmas Lights. Freedom Hills Therapeutic Riding Program Port Deposit, MD.
Re: Back on list!
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > After having spent the summer in Norway and the fall not having time to re-introduce myself to the list, it is time to break the silence. I'm now back home again The horses are pretty good - but Tina's lame and the vets don't know what the problem is. I have no idea and the vets seems rather confused - a perfectly healthy horse, but lame! > So, there's an Anneli-update! I'll try to be more visible on the list from now on! > > Anneli === Anneli, Welcome Back! I was wondering when we'd be hearing from you again and I'm glad to know that all goes well with you, save for Tina's lameness.. that's sure too bad-- hope it passes soon, maybe just a sprain. I'll look forward to your postings! Best regards, Ruthie, nw mt
fjordhorse-digest V2001 #324
fjordhorse-digestWednesday, December 12 2001Volume 2001 : Number 324 In this issue: Re: 5 Generation Pedigree - NFHR Responsibility? fjord saddle Re: 5 Generation Pedigree - NFHR Responsibility? Looking for a name Re: Looking for a name new email address Re: 5 Generation Pedigree - NFHR Responsibility? Re: Denny Emerson's article Re: Looking for a name Re: Denny Emerson's article Re: Looking for a name Re: Looking for a name Re: Looking for a name Re: Looking for a name Re: Denny Emerson's article Re: Looking for a name Re: Looking for a name Re: information MWFHC Re: Looking for a name Re: Looking for a name Re: sinus problems Re: Looking for a name Re: Looking for a name Re: Denny Emerson's article Libby 2001 Tapes & Libby 2002 Show Libby 2002 Re: Looking for a name Re: Libby 2001 Tapes & Libby 2002 Show Re: Looking for a name Back on list! Re: Back on list! See the end of the digest for information on how to retrieve back issues. -- Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 07:41:47 -0400 From: Arthur and Carol Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 5 Generation Pedigree - NFHR Responsibility? This message is from: Arthur and Carol Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good Morning from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - Just a few points to clear up - The horses we import are all duly registered with the Dutch Fjord Studbook, and come with their official Passport, which has a 3 generation pedigree printed, includes a DNA certtificate, Dutch Registraion number, and microchip barcode. --- The official Dutch Passport is set up for only 3 generations. However, if I wanted 5 generations, I could ask for it and get it. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'LL DO IN THE FUTURE because it annoys the hell out of me to see a pedigree certificate not fully filled in, particularly since I know the information is there for the asking. SUGGESTION #1 - Please remind us from time to time that it is the owner's responsibility to obtain a completed pedigree to the 4th and 5th generations . . . if they want a completed NFHR ped. cert.Speaking personally, it is easy to forget this detail when importing horses. SUGGESTION #2 Perhaps the Registrar could contact the owner if and when he finds a pedigree that's going to have holes in it to the 5th generation. If the horse is an imported horse, then it's simple for the owner to get the information. Mike can provide the necessary phone and fax numbers. SUGGESTION #3 - It seems the simplest of all would be for the Registrar to contact his counterpart office and request information he needs. Every new bit of pedigree informatioin that goes in the NFHR computers makes ours a better registry . . . in my opinion. Another benefit would be to have the various Registries maintain a good working relationship with each other. Regards, Carol Rivoire Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www.beaverdamfarm.com -- Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 05:04:55 -0700 From: "TERRENCE GURIEL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: fjord saddle This message is from: "TERRENCE GURIEL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howdy, I'm new to the list and a new fjord owner. I have a question on saddle type. What works best on these horses? I am using a wide bar full quarter horse saddle and it just rolls around. Not enough withers on the horse to lock it in place. Has anyone used the saddle offered on the International Fjord Horse web page? Thanks Quigley Colorado -- Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 07:57:28 -0500 From: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 5 Generation Pedigree - NFHR Responsibility? This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 07:41 AM 12/11/2001 -0400, you wrote: >This message is from: Arthur and Carol Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'LL DO IN THE FUTURE because it annoys the hell >out of me to see a pedigree certificate not fully filled in, particularly >since I know the information is there for the asking. > >SUGGESTION #1 - Please remind us from time to time that it is the owner's >responsibility to obtain a completed pedigree to the 4th and 5th >generations . . . if they want a completed NFHR ped. cert.Speaking >personally, it is easy to forget this detail when importing horses. I can do this. Where would you suggest I remind people of this? >SUGGESTION #2 Perhaps the Registrar could contact the owner if and when he >finds a pedigree that's going to have holes in it to the 5th generation. >If the horse is an imported horse, then it's simple for the owner to get >the information. Mike can pro
Re: Back on list!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anneli, Welcome back, we missed you! Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
Back on list!
This message is from: "Anneli Sundkvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> After having spent the summer in Norway and the fall not having time to re-introduce myself to the list, it is time to break the silence. I'm now back home again. The summer in Norway, where I worked on an archaeological excavation, was good, but I missed my horses. I actually saw very few fjords in Norway! Where are they? Not in Vestfold I guess.;o) Now, I'm trying to start a research project + teaches students. The horses are pretty good - but Tina's lame and the vets don't know what the problem is. They can't find anything on X-ray, her legs look fine, bending-tests of the joints don't make her worse (it there was a joint-problem it would), no signs of founder if you look at the X-ray results or her hooves. She is pregnant too (sire: Knast Halsnaes) and reluctant to needles in general, so not all tests can be made. She is out in a paddock with one other horse every day and actually looks pretty ok, but this is really making ME sad, not knowing what the problem is. She foundered in may and was finally fit one this problem turned up over a day, two months ago. I have no idea and the vets seems rather confused - a perfectly healthy horse, but lame! Cider, on the other hand, is doing fine and we've been to our 3rd clinic with the classical dressagetrainer Bent Branderup. We've also gotten ourselves a "home-trainer" who visits every second week. She is also into classical dressage and used to own a fjord. So, there's an Anneli-update! I'll try to be more visible on the list from now on! Anneli * Anneli Sundkvist Department of Archaeology & Ancient History Uppsala University St. Eriks Torg 5 S-753 10 Uppsala Sweden Phone: +46-18-4716236
Re: Looking for a name
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jean, So, is THAT how one does umlauts! Thanks for the tip!! You could be right about "whew", as I said before, it seems to be conjecture between academics, apparently, as to how the e would be pronounced. I personally use "need" as I am just too American. LOL I will have to write my old professor and ask his thoughts. Lynda Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231.689.9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
Re: Libby 2001 Tapes & Libby 2002 Show
This message is from: Alison Bakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Ursula and Brian, How much are the tapes of the Libby show? I hope to get down to watch next year, since Spruce Meadow and Libby are not in conflit for once. We are getting some snow. I hope to start working horses after Christmas. Have a wonderful Christmas. Alison Bakken Sundre, Alberta