Re: trailering horses

2001-12-23 Thread truman matz
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 I trailered a young Arab from Oregon to CA...about nine hours total.  I am
 not quite sure what happened to him, but he certainly looked like he might
 eventually go down in the trailer.  He was sweated up and the muscles on
top
 of his butt were quivering, as though they were severely fatigued.  The
road
 was straight and the trailer had a cushy ride.  I think he was just
tensing
 up all the time and wearing himself out.  He seemed fine as soon as we let
 him out.  Maybe something similar happened to the mare.
=This is a possibility.  Much longer ride for the very old mare.
Judy
 Gail Russell
 Forestville CA
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Re: trailering horses

2001-12-23 Thread truman matz
This message is from: truman matz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

===Oops.  Hit a wrong button,... will try again.

 This message is from: Janet McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 We have hauled our horses on trips that required 20+ hours of driving.  It
is my preference
 to unload and rest the horses just before entering the mountains, as the
constant up/down and
 turning requires a lot of muscle in any horse and has to be tiring.  I am
not possitive, but
 I think there are also laws about how long any animal can be held in a
trailer without
 unloading for rest.  I believe the law may require unloading after every
24 hours of travel.
=I may have over-reacted to the whole scenerio.  Accidents will
happen.  However, I just have very bad vibes regarding the incident.
Supposedly these people unload the horses and walk them every 5 hours.  I
don't see how that was possible, given the fact that one guy was apparently
a driver, period.  Unless they had just picked them up, there was a mare and
foul that had to be taken out before they could get to the other horses.

 We have found out that many rodeo grounds and fair grounds as well as
state/national forest
 areas will allow you to unload and camp for  the night if the grounds are
not in use at that
 time.
==They say they take them out and walk them, even at a rest
area.  I really question that, too.  IMHO, it doesn't sound safe, either.

We always call ahead for permission (use the chamber of commerce for the
town you will
 be near), and pay some 'rent'  to the club, even if none is asked for, and
of course, clean
 up.  It is really a good thing for the horses to let them get out and
stretch, roll, and lie
 down if they wish.  The rest also assures that -we- do a better job
driving in the mountains.
===Well, Janet, it certainly sounds like you folks have all the
angles very well covered.  Can I recommend you to my friend should she want
to move her horse again?  :-)  Seriously, that sounds great.  Judy






Re: trailering horses

2001-12-23 Thread truman matz
This message is from: truman matz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I'm very sorry to hear about your horrible experience.

 We have hauled our horses on trips that required 20+ hours of driving.  It
is my preference
 to unload and rest the horses just before entering the mountains, as the
constant up/down and
 turning requires a lot of muscle in any horse and has to be tiring.  I am
not possitive, but
 I think there are also laws about how long any animal can be held in a
trailer without
 unloading for rest.  I believe the law may require unloading after every
24 hours of travel.

 We have found out that many rodeo grounds and fair grounds as well as
state/national forest
 areas will allow you to unload and camp for  the night if the grounds are
not in use at that
 time.  We always call ahead for permission (use the chamber of commerce
for the town you will
 be near), and pay some 'rent'  to the club, even if none is asked for, and
of course, clean
 up.  It is really a good thing for the horses to let them get out and
stretch, roll, and lie
 down if they wish.  The rest also assures that -we- do a better job
driving in the mountains.

 Janet






Re: God Jul and Jeans Book

2001-12-23 Thread Janne Myrdal
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Heisann, hyggelig ålese noe annet enn amerikansk en gang in blandt.  Tusen
takk.

Also, those who have not read Jean's book, get one.  Great entertainment for
the cold nights!!!

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2001-12-23 Thread Jean Gayle
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Happy Lille Julaften

2001-12-23 Thread Lassesen
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Re: trailering horses

2001-12-23 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
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I trailered a young Arab from Oregon to CA...about nine hours total.  I am
not quite sure what happened to him, but he certainly looked like he might
eventually go down in the trailer.  He was sweated up and the muscles on top
of his butt were quivering, as though they were severely fatigued.  The road
was straight and the trailer had a cushy ride.  I think he was just tensing
up all the time and wearing himself out.  He seemed fine as soon as we let
him out.  Maybe something similar happened to the mare.


This horse is a 28 year old T/B mare.  No known reason why she went bonkers,
but the owner assumes it was because she stood in the straight stall of the
trailer too long, (3 days, instead of 2), and her arthritis hurt so bad she
couldn't take it any longer.
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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SS Clues

2001-12-23 Thread Cynthia Madden
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More clues have arrived from SS's who are busy sending
their gifts. The SS ELF.


To Cindy Vallecillo

Your gifts on the way,
I sent it by sleigh...
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For Sue Giargiari:

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And your Xmas gift is on its way.

It won't make it there for Xmas day,
But I think you''ll like it anyway!

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But I'm nearly that far away from you!

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trailering horses

2001-12-23 Thread Janet McNally
This message is from: Janet McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This horse is a 28 year old T/B mare.  No known reason why she went bonkers,
but the owner assumes it was because she stood in the straight stall of the
trailer too long, (3 days, instead of 2), and her arthritis hurt so bad she
couldn't take it any longer.  I personally wondered about the possibility of
a driver not handling our AR hills and curves very well.

I'm very sorry to hear about your horrible experience.

We have hauled our horses on trips that required 20+ hours of driving.  It is 
my preference
to unload and rest the horses just before entering the mountains, as the 
constant up/down and
turning requires a lot of muscle in any horse and has to be tiring.  I am not 
possitive, but
I think there are also laws about how long any animal can be held in a trailer 
without
unloading for rest.  I believe the law may require unloading after every 24 
hours of travel.

We have found out that many rodeo grounds and fair grounds as well as 
state/national forest
areas will allow you to unload and camp for  the night if the grounds are not 
in use at that
time.  We always call ahead for permission (use the chamber of commerce for the 
town you will
be near), and pay some 'rent'  to the club, even if none is asked for, and of 
course, clean
up.  It is really a good thing for the horses to let them get out and stretch, 
roll, and lie
down if they wish.  The rest also assures that -we- do a better job driving in 
the mountains.

Janet