In response to Aussie saddle question
This message is from: "DT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aussie saddles are wonderful. However if you weigh more than say 250 lbs. you don't want the stock saddle as the tree isn't strong enough for you. Also since the Fjord is wider you want more of a full quarter horse bar. In that case you would go with an Aussie saddle that is fleeced but doesn't have the padding under the saddle. Of course this is just what I have learned as I have researched them. I did read a lot. Watched videos, ridden in one and had one on Lars. Deb
In response to modern breeding and eating at Dunkin Doughnuts
This message is from: "DT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lois, you know I have seen what you mean that breeders tend to go towards slimmer, sleeker styles. Is this true in all parts of the world or just in America where the media teaches society or visa versa that "thinner, leaner and meaner" is better? I say eat the Dunkin doughnuts and go for the draftiest Fjord you can find :-) Deb
Re: GLory bits
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If someone needs a Glory it, I have one available for sale. 'Liverpool' style w/ 2 rein slots (not 3). It is 5 1/4" wide, and comes w/ the rolled leather curb strap. Brand new - just too small for my beasties mouth. $60. (incl. shipping the USA) Please reply privately. Thanks. kmac Original Message Follows From: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: Email list reply Subject: GLory bits Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 04:12:44 -0800 (PST) This message is from: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyone have the web site of the guy who makes the Glory bits? Old site I had is gone now. Thanks Marsha Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re[2]: West Nile Vaccine
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joni-- Tuesday, February 19, 2002, you wrote: > It is almost time for Spring shots and I am debating whether or not > to vaccinate my gelding for West Nile. Are there any adverse effects > from this vaccine? Most people I have spoken to in our area of S.E. > Wisconsin are planning on using the vaccine. Any comments would be > appreciated. Joni I'm curious if there has been any studies as yet on whether or not the vaccine for West Nile is effective. As I recall it was placed on the market with no studies showing that it was any more effective than a shot of saline. Steve W., can you comment on this? -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA No whisper of lover, no trilling of birds, Can stir me as hooves of the horses have stirred. -- Will H Ogilvie
Re: West Nile Vaccine
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your input, Joyce. I opted to vaccinate my gelding for the West Nile virus. The vet told me that there haven't been any adverse effects that she has heard of and she vaccinated over 100 horses herself. She also said that a vet friend of hers out East has experienced the devastation of the virus first-hand and it's awful. She said one day a horse will be limping and two days later he's dead! She also said that the virus is spreading. Here in Wisconsin, we have had a record-breaking mild winter, so we are expecting a "bumper crop" of mosquitoes, which is another factor to consider in vaccinating. Joni
Re: West Nile Vaccine
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A suggestion on the West Nile vaccine - I'm in MD - we had never vaccinated for Potomac Horse Fever. I hate giving all these shots if not needed. Well, after many years of not having a problem one of our horses came down with PHF last summer. He was very very ill, spent several weeks at Unionville Equine Hospital, came very close to losing him. And to avoid all that expense (over $4,000.00) if we had vaccinated everyone we wouldn't have had the scare. So since the West Nile Vaccine had just come out I asked Dr. Lee if we needed to vaccinate for it. His response was if one or more of them came down with it, the treatment would be very similar to PHC and we already know how expensive that was. So yes we now vaccinate for everything. I do wish we had the money to yearly do a titer on every animal to avoid over vaccinating but we don't. Hope that helps a little. Robyn in MD 61 degrees today
Re: founder
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mary, I wonder if they all should be "seeded". Perhaps it is a gut problem where we somehow kill off what is needed to keep a balance there. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Vets & free time?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "...Our regular vet, Mike, ... insisted on entertaining us all > with his imitation of the sound maggots make while feeding > I think he has too much free time" Wow! A vet with free time He's one in a thousand, I'd say. My poor vet -- I don't quite know when he ever sleeps -- much less has time to perfect his "maggot imitation". ;-) DeeAnna
Re: Foal Pictures
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well she looks like a brown dun to me! Yes, I would second that one. She looks brown dun in the photos - mealy nose and all. Our white dun mare foaled only brown dun babies for us - darn! We were hoping for white, red, or yellow at least once! Since she had at least one of each before we bought her. This new little one is adorable!! And Momma Gwen looks pretty good herself. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
Re: Foal Pictures
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/20/2002 8:11:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > One thing that > interested me was the very short coat he had, born on June 28th compared to > foals born now and very early in the spring! He was almost sleek! We too, had a colt born in late May (two years ago) with a short smooth coat, which was a great contrast to the filly born in April with a very fuzzy coat. Last years June filly had a VERY short coat too. Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: founder
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Dagrun Aarsten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am following the founder discussion with big > interest. I might be wrong, > but it seems to be more of a problem here in the US > than back in Norway. > The cases of founder I have come across in Norway > have all been the case of > "overfed, undertrained" horses. With a few > exceptions (e.g. switching to a > different kind of hay). > > In Norway, most horses are kept in a stall in winter > (with daily turnout) > and they usually get some grain in addition to hay. , some horses don't > get worked but it's still very rare to feed just > hay. Probably our hay is > poorer in nutrition than the hay you get around > here? > > Most horses go directly from their stall-boarding to > their pasture paradise > in summer. > I've seen many cases of just letting the horse out > on green pasture in early > summer and all went well. > > I guess another difference is that our "pastures" > are usually more like big > wild areas, with natural grass and plants, hills, > woods and rivers, and they > do have to walk around quite a bit to fill > themselves up Possibly we are getting somewhere on this 'founder thing' now!! I had not thought about it before reading Dagrun's post, but.Our old mare, Line, came from Norway - with a five year stopover on open range in Canada. Our 'pastures' are very similar to what she had in Norway - basically 'wild' areas where she has to move around a lot to fill herself up. We keep our horses in stalls with turnouts in the winter - feeding them local grass hay and a little grain/vitamins - and they have access to the 'early spring' grass and subsequent 'slim pickins' in the summer. Line has never been a problem with founder. Sure, she gets fat in the late summer, but it's all gone by spring. The only time she ever came close to founder was when we first had her. She had been trailered a LONG way in three days - with time out of the trailer at night - and was 'tender footed' when we got home(also was about 200 pounds overweight). She recovered quickly from her 'tender feet', and began to lose weight. The problem was, she didn't STOP losing weight!! Her gut was incapable of digesting the grass we had here - which was much different than the sparse grass she was used to. Our vet 'seeded' her with enzymes for a few days and all went well. She has since been free of any symptoms of founder - no matter what her weight. I cannot say the same for the "North American" mares we have had. All have been prone to founder and once foundered have been unable to tolerate grain or clover hays. All our horses have been kept under the same routine as Line, but developed problems if not carefully managed, except, of course, for young, growing stock. Interesting, no? Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
Re: Foal Pictures
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just checked Bjorken's baby pictures and he didn't have any color on his legs until a couple months old. He looked very white, also..One thing that interested me was the very short coat he had, born on June 28th compared to foals born now and very early in the spring! He was almost sleek! Mother Nature sure provides what they need doesn't she? Your foal is very cute, makes me want one! Foal envy! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska with fat fuzzy fords waiting for spring! -2F >Jean, she is our first foal born that has not one ounce of color on her legs. > Pure white, except where she got dirty learning to stand up. Pretty cute, >watching that! > >Lynda and Daniel >Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm >White Cloud, MI >231-689-9902 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/ > > > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: australian saddle
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Stephen Nasby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Stephen Nasby" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I've been re-watching my dave Genadek saddle fit > tape (excellent!!) and > after going to a couple Australian saddle websites > realized they emphasize > the legs being forward in the saddle. I thought all > the stirrups looked a > tad bit forward and realized maybe the Australian > saddles are meant for you > to have your feet forward?? I used Australian saddles on my Fjords for years - until I started using a training method which required the use of a Western saddle to apply the method properly. Yes, they are meant to be used with the leg forward - or slightly back - depending on what you are doing(ie., going uphill or downhill). This "free stirrup" setup is great for those of us who cannot use a saddle with stirrups that need to be used 'straight down'. Having had back surgery, the standard 'older style' western saddle was too confining for me. The Australian saddle worked perfectly. However, I must confess that the concept of 'properly centered riding' - and all the stuff that goes with it - is not something I ever worried about. I learned to ride bareback on a half-wild horse(at 12 you think you're invincible!), so have always just gone with the saddle type which allowed the best shoulder freedom for the horse - plus back and wither comfort - and gave me a ride which felt balanced. Believe me, you can tell if you're 'behind' the horse or 'ahead' of him. Behind is a real bummer - leads to lots of neck and back snapping ;). The newer style of Western saddles now have a fairly 'free' stirrup as well - though not as free as the Aussie saddle. Given the choice - if I could still ride - I would go bareback or in an Aussie saddle. There are Australian saddles that are made specifically for trail riding - with all the accompanying equipment like halter-bridles, breast straps with or without water bottles, front and back attached saddle bags(that's what all those rings on the Aussie saddles are for), cruppers for steep hills, etc., etc. When I ordered my Aussie saddles - out of a catalog, no less - they took some measurements and sent the saddle they felt would fit the horse best. It was a great fit for that horse. They come in all sorts of gusset sizes and the underside can be 'awled' to rearrange the padding to fit individual horse's backs well. Instructions on how to do this come with the saddle - and on the video which accompanies the saddle. Mine came from the Australian Stock Saddle Co. in Malibu, California. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
Re: Foal Pictures
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Thanks everyone! We are still in love! She is just the cutest and most curious little foal. Her muzzle has gotten even darker, but we are still leaning toward brown dun ourselves, although we are going to wait a bit longer. Jean, she is our first foal born that has not one ounce of color on her legs. Pure white, except where she got dirty learning to stand up. Pretty cute, watching that! Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
catching horses
This message is from: Bonnie Liermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks everyone for your input. Yes, I will work with the treats and also do what Lisa Pederson said and go out often just to treat. It makes sense. Also I think I will try a grazing muzzle on my Fjord. This morning I checked body condition which I do about every week. I really want my two chubs to come out of winter in a good body weight. Well the Quarter horse is doing well. I can press and feel ribs on everyone except you know who - the Fjord! I guess he would have to live alone in order to keep him down in weight, but I don't want to do that to him. He's young and needs fun and play. It is amazing how little feed they actually need. WI is getting rain the past two days and will change to snow today and get colder. Don't you just love winter?? Bonnie
Re: Keswick
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/19/02 9:13:09 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's also interesting how much Kez resembles one of the geldings we raised here - he looks so much like Sindar that they could be twins(they look very much alike in the face, and their body language is SO similar). I hadn't ever really seen another Fjord that looked like Sindar so much. I'm curious what Kez's bloodlines are. Sindar has Line and Rusten as grandparents on one side and Gromar and Sammi on the other. He is by Misha, out of Raintree's Flikke. >> Keswick sire is King Gjestar II by King Gjestar out of Lenda II his dam is Katrina by Ole out of Viola. I don't see any ancestors in common between Sindar and Kez Both Katrina and King Gjestar II can be found on the NFHR web site nfhr.com. Sue Sue Clark-Sorger Crown Oak Fjords Sandia Park NM
Re: Foal Pictures
This message is from: "rlg_creations" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> oh she is adorable!!! congratulations! reena > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hello everyone, > > We have just uploaded a few pictures of our new filly on our website (address > listed below) in case anyone wishes to take a peek at her! > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.324 / Virus Database: 181 - Release Date: 2/14/2002
Re: Foal Pictures
This message is from: "Peter & Deb Coggiola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just visited your website. Great pictures!! Having had both white dun babies and white dun babies, my guess would be that you have a brown dun baby. As I suggested in the earlier email, check the eyelash color. We have had babies get darker as they grow up but never lighter. Thanks for sharing your exciting time with us all! I don't think there's anything cuter than Fjord babies!!! Deb Coggiola in NYS where it was 50 degrees and sunny yesterday. Cloudy and rain expected today - thank you, Lord!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:41 PM Subject: Foal Pictures > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hello everyone, > > We have just uploaded a few pictures of our new filly on our website (address > listed below) in case anyone wishes to take a peek at her! > > Regards, > > Lynda and Daniel > Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm > White Cloud, MI > 231-689-9902 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
GLory bits
This message is from: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyone have the web site of the guy who makes the Glory bits? Old site I had is gone now. Thanks Marsha Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
foal pictures
This message is from: Michael H Melbye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howdy Baileys Fjords, Earlier today I was at Baileys web looking at FC Gwendellin because of the advertisement for her full sister for sale by Fjord Crossing [Peter and Deb Coggiola] Then you have the great pictures up so soon. Wow, are you helping Deb sell FC Mona? Yes they are like potato chips! Thanks for the pictures, but I think it's going to cost me! Good luck with your beautiful filly! Hope to meet more of you folks in Galena next month! Michael Melbye 15411 Tubbs Rd. E. Buckley, WA 98321 [360] 897-8212 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
