Re: FjordHorse List Hits 500 Subscribers
This message is from: Julia Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, my name is Julia and I'm from Australia. I live in the state of Victoria in a small town called Upper Beaconsfield approx 55km south east of Melbourne (capital city). I have just recently joined this group and love to hear about everyone's Fjords. We have very few Fjords here in Australia, approximately 50 ponies that are spread across the country. Fjords were originally imported to Australia in 1920's to a property in Queensland where they basically ran wild and bred amongst themselves. It wasn't until 1986 when 8 ponies were imported to Australia from Holland. The ponies we have here today are all descendants of these original 8 ponies. As you can imagine we are in desparate need of new genetic blood here. We have been lucky that one of our members has successfully gained a preganancy from frozen semen to the US stallion MVF Erlend. This will certainly help us in moving forward and increasing the genetic diversity. We are eagerly waiting for the arrival of the foal later this year. I have 2 Fjords, a gelding Obi and a mare Maaike. I am also leasing a stallion at the moment with the hope of getting my mare pregnant. He is is the only stallion in Australia that I can put my mare in foal to as she is related to the one other stallion in Australia (yes we only have 2 stallions!!!) I also breed Highland ponies (native to Scotland) which are just as rare as the Fjords and similar in type temperament!! They have just been listed with the Rare Breeds Trust in UK as there are less than 200 breeding mares each season in UK. We have aound 70 Highland ponies in Australia. We have a website if anyone is interested in looking at what a Highland Pony is!!! www.highlandpony.org.au I love reading all the interesting posts with this group and hope one day I'll be able to come over to the US and have a look at all of your beautiful ponies. Cheers Julia - Original Message - This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trumpet blare Dr-r-r-r-rum r-r-r-r-roll As of last night, with the addition of a new subscriber from Oregon, the total membership of FjordHorse List stands at 500 Please!!! If you are from a country other than the U.S. or Canada drop a short E-mail
Re: FjordHorse List Hits 500 Subscribers
This message is from: Holly Tuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Congratulations to One and All. Especially you Steve on the big 500. Holly from Manitoba __ Games, Movies, Music Sports! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca
Re: FjordHorse List Hits 500 Subscribers
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/7/2002 3:55:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: with the addition of a new subscriber from Oregon, the total membership of FjordHorse List stands at 500. Whooo Hooo! I bet that was Linda Bezdek. Welcome Linda! I think we're a pretty great bunch too. A good collective library of minds - we're sure to keep the info flowing freely. Congratulations to us all! Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fjordings West Online Auction
This message is from: Dudley and Karen Haines [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all, Well, after some initial technical difficulties the Fjordings West online auction is up and running! Check out the goodies at http://user.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/user/fjordingswest . Be sure to put this site in your favorite places as more auctions will be added throughout the month, including a beautiful original fjord painting by member Leela Standal. Good luck bidding! Karen Haines
Re: FjordHorse List Hits 500 Subscribers
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hooray for us and Steve!!! 500 busy fjord people. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
compiled data on Fjords in Viking period
This message is from: Erik Cofield-Erixart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for the help in sending information regarding the Viking period history of the Fjord Horse. I received many personal emails stating this was a great place to discuss this, and so I have compiled some data, not just on horses from that period, but specific mention of Fjords. It may be that Ms. Sundkvist is right and this is just speculation, but WOW, is there a lot of it. There was an issue raised as to the breeding of the Fjord Horse from the Viking period, specifically as we know the breed today. There were two specific questions. Was the Fjord an actual breed at that time, or is the Fjord a descendant from other breed(s)? Was the Fjord selectively bred? No one disputes horses from the period; we are only discussing the history of one breed in particular. Pursuant to some requests, I have compiled a list from various web sites, which reference the Viking period history of the Fjord Horse. I have also put in some comments from me in parenthesis. The following excerpts from various web sites confirm at least one thing: there is a lot of confusion. I agree with Ms. Sundkvist in that I can only find a reference in the Snorri that Swedish King Athil's bred horses, not anything specifically about selectively breeding the Fjord Horse. I am only providing this as a reference, and as validation for why, as a producer of bronze statues of Fjord Horses, I stated in my collateral material that the Fjords were from the Viking period. I make no representation to the accuracy of any of this information, but am merely providing it for your review. I have underlined some of the relevant text. Many of you referenced, Grimm's Tuetonic Mythology and the Poetic Edda, both of which are interesting taken just about horses, with no specific breed names. I would be interested in documentation, from a more scholarly point, to contradict this, because when you think about it, selective breeding seems easy when discussing pigs and goats, but not from free roaming horses of various breeds. As an aside, undoubtedly, many of us wish we could be buried with our beloved friend by our side, too. Kind Regards, Erik EXCERPTS: (sorry this is so long) From:www.NFHR.com The Norwegian Fjord Horse is one of the world's oldest and purest breeds. It is believed that the original Fjord Horse migrated to Norway and was domesticated over 4,000 years ago. Herds of wild Fjord Horses existed in Norway after the last ice age. Archaeological excavations at Viking burial sites indicate that the Fjord Horse has been selectively bred for at least 2,000 years. From: http://members.tripod.co.uk/DStewartFHRS/history.htm Of all the modern equine breeds, the Norwegian Fjord horse bears the most striking resemblance to the Przewalski horse, also known as the Asiatic wild horse of the Ice Age, which has a very strong resemblance to primitive cave drawings that have been found in a number of places around the world. Existing in the wild only in the western area of the Gobi Desert, it was generally thought to be extinct, until a herd was discovered by a Russian explorer, Colonel N. M. Prezwalski (1839-1888), in the latter part of the nineteenth century. Compare the prehistoric cave painting of a pony's head found at the Grotte de Nieux in the Hautes Pyrennes, with the photograph of the head of a Przewalski's horse yearling. The similarity is startling. The Norwegian Fjord horse retains much of its ancestor's primitive vigour, as well as the uniform dun coat colour. The latter is accompanied by an eel stripe running from the forelock to the tip of the tail, and sometimes by zebra bars on the legs. The mane and tail are usually lighter in colour, being almost silver. A notable feature is the coarse, erect mane, which is characteristic of primitive equines.Were it left alone, the mane would grow as long as that of any other breed, but by ancient tradition it is hogged so that the black hairs at the centre stand above the rest. It is cut in a crescent shape from poll to withers, giving a pronounced crest to the neck. Horses with their manes clipped in this way appear on the runestone carvings of the Vikings, which may still be seen in Norway. The Fjord was the Viking horse, and was used in the popular sport of horse fighting, when horses were pitted against each other, and sometimes fought to the death. It is known that the first raiders to reach the Western Isles of Scotland came from Hordaland in Norway around eight hundred years ago, bringing with them their Fjord horses. However, the first documented Fjords to come into Great Britain were imported from Norway in 1890, and not 1910 as previously claimed. From: www.imh.org The Norwegian Fjord Horse is one of the world's oldest and purest breeds of horse. It bears a striking resemblance to the horses painted on cave walls by ice age artists some 30,000 years ago and is believed to have migrated to Norway over 4,000
seizures
This message is from: Sara Faull [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am posting this for a friend who has a fjord mare who recently began having seizures, they began during her recent pregnancy-but only happened 3-4 times until the foal was born. The seizures only happened at feeding time- After foaling they started happening with more frequency and intensity (but still only at feeding time) happening twice a day with the mare sometimes falling down. In an act of desperation the vet sent pergolide to try to stop the seizures- she has not had any since- it has been a week- this drug is for cushing's disease which acts on the pituitary- has anyone heard of cushing's in a fjord or had experience with this disease? she hasn't had any bloodwork yet, but other than the seizures she doesn't have any symptoms of the disease and is very healthy. Sara Faull Mandala Farm
Re: NFHR Eval, Carson City, Nv
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/6/02 3:47:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We had the verbal commitment from you, now we need ya all to put your $ where your mouth is so to speak, and get signed up. Thanks Karen! Count me in send on the paperwork... Brigid
FjordHorse List Hits 500 Subscribers
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trumpet blare Dr-r-r-r-rum r-r-r-r-roll As of last night, with the addition of a new subscriber from Oregon, the total membership of FjordHorse List stands at 500. Pretty good group I think, probably representing a good proportion of North American Fjord owners. I would really like to know from what other countries we have subscribers. I have asked this before, but received no response. Please!!! If you are from a country other than the U.S. or Canada drop a short E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell me where you live. -- Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List
fillies for sale in Montana, hot stud
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bushwhacker Fjords http://www.libby.org/~Bushnell in the northwest corner of Montana (17 miles w.of Bonners Ferry ID and 20 air miles south of Canada) has two prime fillies for sale, both from our stallion A2Z Thorson, (a Gjest grandson.) Nice apple bums on both of these NFHR registered gals... 2-year Dainty Maid was FIRST place at the International Fjord Horse show in Libby last fall. She is a knock out with dark rich color and very heavy black accents (Blue Earth Grand Champion gray Nicholas is granddad on dam's side.) and because of her exceptional movement and femininity we feel she would make a wonderful dressage prospect. She will be average height. She has been well handled and line driven, lightly hitched as a pair. 2-year Swan was SECOND place out of eight at the International Fjord Horse show in Libby year before last. She is typically dun colored and will be slightly above average height. She too has been well handled and line driven, lightly hitched as a pair.. she will be a wonderful all around useful Fjord. We are also offering stallion services (besides our Thorson) from a young and relatively unknown 3-year old boy, Dutchman, who is an outstanding sweetheart! (health cert.on file w/NFHR) He is a son of the late Quad-L's Rusten and a grandson of Gayle Ware's Woodland's Dustin. (his first daughter Teal is the dam). Dutchman was SECOND place at Libby in Jr Stallion class last year. It may be unusual to advertise a stallion service here but he is relatively unknown and it is a shame he's not been used at all. He asked me to place a lonely heart advertisement =)) Our phone is 406-295-5050 Ruthie and Gene Bushnell, Troy, MT
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This message is from: linda bezdek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi.. Just joined this group. Can anyone recommend a Fjord specific show/evaluation vidio?? -- linda b
Re: Larger fjord wanted
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have, or know of, a larger fjord for sale - please contact this fellow. I met him at the MN Horse Expo (more about that later). Please do not call with info on anything under 14.3 hands -- this guy is a big fellow and wants a larger fjord!! Paul @ 715-597-3922 Osseo, Wisconsin I'VE RUN into this before.. large people searching for large horses.. and I maintain that height has nothing to do with strength and weight bearing. It stands to reason that if a tall horse is fine boned and not well conditioned it would be less capable of packing a heavy load than would a short horse that has stout bone and good muscle development. Tall is not always strong.. short is not always weak-- just as with people. Ruthie, nw mt
Re: Larger fjord wanted
This message is from: Carol J. Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone! If you have, or know of, a larger fjord for sale - please contact this fellow. I met him at the MN Horse Expo (more about that later). Hi Linda, We are waiting for a full report on the expo. I heard that the vendors did well despite the lousy weather. This info is from someone very involved with organizing it. Actually they like bad weather since it brings people out who can't be doing other outdoor stuff. -- Built FJORD tough Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
Larger fjord wanted
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone! If you have, or know of, a larger fjord for sale - please contact this fellow. I met him at the MN Horse Expo (more about that later). Please do not call with info on anything under 14.3 hands -- this guy is a big fellow and wants a larger fjord!! Paul @ 715-597-3922 Osseo, Wisconsin Thanks - Linda inMN
Re: Swollen Leg
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/6/02 7:59:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So just how is this related to the Fjord list? Please save idle chatter for off line comments. It takes up unnecessary bandwidth. ? I'm missing something? It does indeed relate very much to the fjord list. The poor lady cannot RIDE with her leg swollen and is looking for help. I for one hope that some information she gets helps her get back in the saddle and enjoying her fjord horse.This list would indeed be boring if we talked nothing about conformation, breeding, shows, etc. Those subjects are very good topics, granted, but there is a LIFE surrounding each of us and our fjords that is so much more than this. And we may all learn something about how to better our lives, or our horses lives by keeping open minds and letting the conversation about life with our fjords to flow. :) Pamela
Re: Precious Bandwidth?
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey Terry, numero uno, chill, then: remember that you DO have the ability to either scroll or delete, at will, anything you desire NOT to read on this list. If it doesn't interest you, than do as Dionn Warwick did and walk on bye... IMO, I know Sue has been a very engaging contributive participant on this list, and I do find the swollen leg story related to this list, and I do find it personally interesting as a) I too once sufferd the same affliction, and b) I own/raise/ride/train fjords. I know many others will agree. Adios for now, Kmac This message is from: TERRENCE GURIEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] So just how is this related to the Fjord list? Please save idle chatter for off line comments. It takes up unnecessary bandwidth. Thanks Terry - Original Message - From: Snowy Mtn. Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:53 AM To: Fjordhorse List Subject: Swollen Leg This message is from: Snowy Mtn. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Sue I have had some extreamly great relief by using Aloe Vera. I have a very big variety in my house and just slice it open and apply directly to the injury. wrap it on and leave it there change it twice a day. I have seen it take a swollen black foot and turn it white and unswollen overnight. Where the leaf stopped the colour was still black. In your case I would also pick up a bottle of edible aloe vera juice to help with the internal damage. I hope you feel better soon. Lauren. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: Vikings and their horses
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Deb-- Monday, May 06, 2002, you wrote: Steve, I think I didn't make myself clear. As you may already know there are differences of opinions on the years that Vikings spanned. Also there are different definitions of what or who a Viking is. Perhaps, it was I who wasn't clear. No, I don't know about the varying thoughts on when the Vikings existed or who they were. That was why I asked if you would share what you have learned. You are the one who has been reading about Vikings, please share with us a bit of the background that accounts for the difficulty in pinpointing who and what time frame we are discussing. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd Skipper -- Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA When I bestride him, I soar, I am a hawk...the basest horn of his hoof is more musical than the pipe of Hermes. --William Shakespeare(1564-1616)
Re[2]: Swollen Leg
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terry-- Monday, May 06, 2002, you wrote: So just how is this related to the Fjord list? Please save idle chatter for off line comments. It takes up unnecessary bandwidth. Thanks for the offer to help Terry, however I believe I can handle policing off-topic messages just fine. I think since sprains, scrapes, broken bones, and contusions seem to be part of the landscape with horses, any suggestions pertaining to relief can be considered to be on-topic. Now the whole Barbie thing is wildly off-topic, but it is funny enough to slide. However, we probably can do without a lot of on-list comments on it. -- Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List
