Re: fjords as kids horses
This message is from: "Laurie Pittman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Everything that everyone has been talking about as Fjords for kids is true > with ANY breed. Why do you just say Fjords. Sheri Kane hit the nail on the > head, it is a respect issue. That is true with any breed, just like she said. > So the Fjords will show their strength or go their own way if they don't > respect you. Do you know what other breeds do, bolt, rear, buck, bite, they > too will shove, evade the bit, etc etc etc. Fjords can do these too, but for > the most part they get "bully". Of course Fjords can do all these things. The point was that they are often described as "bomb proof" and "perfect childs/beginner" horses. Of all the calls I had on Tor, that was what they were all looking for. There's no way I'd sell him as a childs horse. He's too strong and too strongwilled. Needless to say, I still have him. Laurie Pittman
We have a new Fjord!
This message is from: "Sue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi allwell I have been reading all the digests but have not sent in a note for quite some timeand now time to catch you up on our news. We are the proud new owners of Deere Country Peppin, a georgeous yearling brown dun Fjord, bred and raised by John and Eunice Bosomworth of Deere Country Fjords in Ontario. He was delivered to us today by tractor trailor. He is now happily munching hay with 3 year old Storm and hubby's Appaloosa gelding. We sold our Arab mare and before the ink was dry on the transfer, we had Peppin spoken for over the phone. That was two weeks ago, and today finally arrivedthe day we got to see him for the first time. (: He was wonderful on the truck and when brought in the barn, started munching hay. What a sweety!...and Storm is infatuated with his new "brother". Remember, I had broken my ankle and ended up with D.V.T.? Well this led to a very swollen lower leg...so swollen that I appealed to all of you a few months ago for help. Well, just this morning, I tried on my cowboy riding boots, and guess what! I actually got the boot on. It is a bit tight in the ankle area...but I know with time I will be back in the saddle. Storm is used to being saddled and bridled, but has yet to be ridden. Randy finished his chemo in April and radiation 3 weeks ago, for Non Hodgkins Lymphoma that he was diagnosed with last fall...so we are both finally improving enough to start riding again. What are you all using for the horrid face flies? I put Avon skin-so-soft and vaseline around their eyes but the the buggers still get right in the corners of their eyes. Well gotta run, take care everyone, Sue in N.B. ( Desert Stormsand Peppins mom)
Re: fjords as kids horses
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > If they spook, which they seldom do, they jump farther and harder, if they > > buck, which they seldom do, it is with more unseating force (talk about > > your > > grand wallop!) Ruthie > ~~ > I agree with your whole post, except for this one. Juniper's spooks, ..<> ~~ It must be an individual horse thing then, Pamela, because I personally have tested out my theory and speak from firsthand experience!! =))) A Fjord gives you more bang for your buck, hee hee. Ruthie
Re: fjords as kids horses
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lynda, I did not mean the mini should be a riding mount. I did not know anyone rode them. I just made reference to the fact that it was being said that children should have smaller mounts. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: fjords as kids horses
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jean, I agree with you. Training is the key, regardless of size. I have known and heard of many mini and small pony breeders who believe their animals are trained after a week in harness. Sort of like what we hear with the well trained Fjord who has only had 30 days of training, I suppose. Also, one of the ways some of the pony and mini handlers get the flashy look at the shows is to have a poorly trained pony coupled with weighted shoes. Those two factors along with the ruckus of the show environment ends up with a highheaded, stepping out pony frothing at the bit, scared to death. Of course, people think it is a beautiful sight. Also, many accidents happen at these shows, flash is more important than safety to many people, unfortunately. A well trained pony is easy to spot and the seller should be able to put them through their paces in many different situations for the buyer. If not, then the buyer should have some reservations. If that pony is very high headed, frothing at the mouth, flaring nostrils, high stepping, look into the pony's training more intensely. There are many signs of a poorly trained pony being sold as a child's mount. As for minis, they are great little driving horses, certainly, with training, but a mini can only be used for very small riders due simply to their size. I would always suggest a pony over a mini for a child any day. A child, unless he/she has an interest in driving, will outgrow the mini very quickly. Lynda Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjords & Shetlands White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/ Standing J. J.'s Painted Bo-Jo ASPC #141052A 1998 &1999 Classic Shetland Performance Pony of the Year
Re: fjords as kids horses
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good points about Fjords and children. The one who felt ponies were more manageable because of their size? Have you ever seen a mini horse spook? I also thought the little two to three hundred pound horses would be easy to just pull over backwards if they ran off with the cart. Ha! One panicked in the show last year with an adult driver, wiped out two carts in the ring and sent its well trained owner to the hospital with concussion and hysteria. The entrants who still had their seats in their carts were huddled against the walls. Even two strong reins could not stop the wee beasty. It stopped when it jammed into a bunch of carts and had no place to go. A pony can do just as much damage as a full grown or mini horse. I go along with the well trained theory plus lots of luck. Look at Karen Mc who has had some really hair raising experiences in years of working with horses and then gets "bumped" and has a fractured back!! This is a dangerous sport of ours, but it has all been worth it in my opinion. Karen might not think so at this moment, but she will when she heals. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: fjords as kids horses
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Early this spring we went to York Equestrian Centre north of Toronto, to get our horses out and about, and to practice riding with the big boys of dressage. Many of the Grand Prix riders were there doing their thing and the atmosphere was so exciting and electric. Anyhow, there's me riding Prisco in amongst all these warmbloods, and one of the riders looks at us and says "He's so cute. I want to buy one for my daughter!" Come to find out that her daughter is 4 years old and has only one arm. I'm not making this up. I told her "Ummm, they can be kind of strong sometimes". I think a little kid should have a little pony and after that, whatever is appropriate to their size and abilities. As for whether a Fjord is suitable for a kid, like Monty Python said: "They're all individuals". I also agree with Patty Walter, you gotta ride them, you can't just sit there. Lori
Re: fjords as kids horses
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Ruth, everyone, > If they spook, which they seldom do, they jump farther and harder, if they > buck, which they seldom do, it is with more unseating force (talk about your > grand wallop!) and if the training and bit is not right they can pretty well > go wheverever they darn please as their strong draft necks are impossible to > I realize there are many qualifying statements > that could be made about this issue, and as individual horses go, but I > strongly believe that a smaller non-draft pony would be a better choice for > a child to ride. Better to err on the side of caution when it comes to young > lives at stake. > I completely agree with this. We adore our Fjords and yes, also believe their temperaments far surpass those of other breeds. Regardless, we also will not sell a Fjord solely as a child's mount. Fjords are simply too strong and too smart, in our opinion. I can certainly see Fjords working beautifully in a children's riding stable environment with constant adult supervision and adult handling of routine tasks, however, in a purchase situation, most likely it is the child who will have to handle the horse day to day; catch the Fjord, clipping, grooming, cleaning stalls, vet visits, farrier visits, etc. I am sure there are many Fjords and children out there that do this very well, I am just not willing to take that chance. We have sold Fjords as family horses and they have done wonderfully well, but the entire family is involved. Much different scenario. As we have a 5 year old son who adores the Fjords, we decided to bring in Shetlands and pony crosses. While Asa, our son, is allowed to ride the Fjords with one of us leading and one of us at his side, we firmly believe there is no way he will be ready to handle a Fjord on his own for many years. This is not due to the Fjords, just the fact they are strong and what if he was riding one and the Fjord startled? What if the Fjord decided to simply graze on the green grass (not allowed but I have seen very well trained Fjords do this with insecure handlers)? What if a stray dog attacked? How on earth could a small child handle this 1000+ animal? So, in came the ponies which the Fjords think are quite cute, Asa is having a blast with his little Shetland gelding, and we are enjoying them, too. Interestingly enough, we have had local people stop for a pony for their child or grandchild. It always amazes me the ponies they try to pick for their child! We have a couple that are wonderfully trained, good manners, handle well, trained to drive and ride, and deal with roads, traffic, and obstacles beautifully. We even started to log with one of them! Two are around 45" or a little over 11 hands. They are heavy of bone, beautiful ponies. Needless to say, when a parent shows up looking for a child's pony, we show them these two girls. However, these same parents will always pick out our two "hot" ponies, one a Classic Shetland (means she has Hackney in her lineage) and the other a Welsh/Arab cross. Neither of these girls are children's ponies as they are strong willed, spook easily, and test the handler constantly. Some of this is due to their breeding as in the pony world, flash is becoming ever more important, and some of this is due to their past owners' handling, meaning the past owners were trying to get even more flash. While they are both improving with their training, it will be a long time, if ever, they could be deemed a child's pony. We always explain to the parents that these two ponies are NOT children's ponies nor would we sell them as such. However, they will not go with the calm docile ponies, they are more concerned with their child looking good on a flashy pony or horse. The last lady to stop by was looking for a pony for her 8 year old niece, a very tiny inexperienced little girl. The woman liked the Welsh/Arab mix and actually said, "Oh, I wish she were 13 hands, she would be PERFECT!!" Needless to say, we were dumbfounded. It is disturbing to note that many of the parents and grandparents we have dealt with locally are more concerned with how the child and horse/pony will "look" versus how well behaved and trained said horse/pony is. I hope this is not becoming a new trend! So, in ending this long winded email, I agree Fjords could be good mounts for children in a very controlled environment, i.e. the training stable another poster described, but overall, I do not believe a Fjord would be a good choice for a small child or especially a small inexperienced child. Frankly, I do not believe any horse is a good choice, regardless of breed. Well trained ponies make wonderful children's mounts, helping the children to gain confidence and learn with an animal more appropriate to their size. Lynda Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjords & Shetlands White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht
Re:bucking fjord:)
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pamela, I had to chuckle at your description of bucking. Yesterday my daughter and I saddled our fjords - me with "Sven" and she with "Lena" and baby "Hasse" ponied along side. You might think she would have a more difficult time riding with Hasse trailing along side - NOPE!! -- it was me with good ole' Sven!!! He was fine while we were side by side with Lena and baby - but when he got left behind as they trotted off faster than him - oh my, he threw a "hissy-fit". Mr. Bucker and Mr. Twist My Very Strong Neck :):):) Well, he never did get a chance to give a rootin-tootin' big buck - but, he was like riding spring steel:) Talk about "collection" and side-passing and little crow hops --soo, after all this nonsense and after Lena and Hasse were out of sight, Sven and I went to work!!! We went up and down our driveway, to the neighbors, circle work in the hay field, to the round pen, back down the driveway and back, around the round pen, back down the driveway -- all the while asking him for a nice, trail riding walk, gentle trotting, stopping and "standing quietly" and backing. He finally settled down and was his old self after a few manuvers:) I had driven him two days before for over an hour - lots of trotting down a road nearby -- so I suppose he was telling me he MUCH prefers that pace and driving!! He really is the all time best driving horse -- riding? not so keen on that:) But then, he was broke to ride at age 12 so has not had alot of experience:) Speaking of driving -- while out on my drive (with a gal friend) we came upon a loose horse - YIKES!!! I was not sure what to do? As it turned out the horse came over near us - I waved my whip at him and told him to "GET" and after standing and looking at us for a bit he ran off toward his barn. I stopped on the road because I was afraid the horse would follow us if we kept going - and start running - which would make Sven crazy?? There was noone at home to yell at to come get the horse. Anyone have any experience with this type of situtation? Time to go bring the little fatso's off grass:) Linda in MN
Re: fjords as kids horses
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/8/2002 11:51:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > If they spook, which they seldom do, they jump farther and harder, if they > buck, which they seldom do, it is with more unseating force (talk about > your > grand wallop!) I agree with your whole post, except for this one. Juniper's spooks, which are few and far between (twice in the 5 years I've had her) are 2 steps away from the object that spooks her. Period. And buck? You aint been bucked or unseated unless its been by a 16.2 hand thoroughbred who wants to jump and you say no. Then that tb rears up, to get you leaning forward, and then before you can recover, does an EXTREMELY athletic buck that launches you into the stratosphere! It happened to me one 4th of July. Seven years ago. I still have a numb spot on my hip where I landed. People heard the "Thunk" of my landing twenty yards away. I figure that the apex of the horse's buck, where I was sitting was about six feet off the ground, I was propelled upwards at least another foot or two. I'd MUCH rather a buck from a 14.1 hand horse that is drafty and doesn't have as much bang for the buck. :) As I said, everything else you said I TOTALLY agree with. Especially erring on the side of caution when it comes to young lives. Pamela
Re: Western Saddle
This message is from: "Hope Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My Circle Y Arab Western saddle fits great, very secure, no bridging, fits well on the withers. Bought it from Stateline Tack. They have one very like it in the catalog, hi tech tree, semi quarter horse bars, square skirt, about 32 lbs. Mine is the Sheik model, 35 lbs, don't see it in the catalog now but might be able to find it used. Good Luck, Hope N IL
Re: kids and fjords
This message is from: "Hope Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I took my first riding lessons at 8 yrs old on thoroughbreds, 16 H, most were retired hunters. Took a ton of lessons then rode out by myself all over the countryside. Learned real quick to take a rein behind the boot heel to circle. Had a great trail ride today, started out gangbusters early this spring, then surgery, now getting back to work again. It's been an adjustment for Thor, never having his brother to go with, always by himself. We circled alot and kept at it and now he seems to enjoy a nice ride out, has regained his confidence. He is heavy on the hands driving with a group of horses, wants to jig and go all the time. Any hints appreciated. Hope N IL
Re: fjords as kids horses
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <> I have had several other breeds of horses and see the Fjords as > the best with kids yet...<>.. Patty Jo Walker I agree with most of what you said Patty Jo but not that sentence, unless you're talking about their barnyard demeanor , you've made some very good points throughout your letter however and I salute your safety record. There's no one who espouses the beautiful temperament of the Fjord horse more than I, and that alone is a tremendous safety factor, but I still maintain that by and large, with individual exceptions, they're not the best choice for a child because of their unusually great strength. If they spook, which they seldom do, they jump farther and harder, if they buck, which they seldom do, it is with more unseating force (talk about your grand wallop!) and if the training and bit is not right they can pretty well go wheverever they darn please as their strong draft necks are impossible to turn or brake by a child. I realize there are many qualifying statements that could be made about this issue, and as individual horses go, but I strongly believe that a smaller non-draft pony would be a better choice for a child to ride. Better to err on the side of caution when it comes to young lives at stake. I recall we've had this conversation before on the Fjord List some time back. I know I've spoken twice already on this matter but I feel that you must have missed my emphasis on the draft factor, which is the overriding reason not to promote them as children's horses. Ruth, nw mt
Sheri's post
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Excellent post, Sheri, and best of luck. Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
greetings from Norway
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone! List member Dagrun Aarsten and I are in Oslo, Norway. We just spent a wonderful week and a half in the country (where, incidentally, internet access is hard to come by!). She competed in the Fjordhest NM, that´s the national championship for Fjords, and did great. I was her cheering section. So, so much to say about this trip I don´t know where to begin. I plan on writing an article with photos upon my return, and sending it to the NFHR Herald. Norway in one word? Magical. If you can make the trip, don´t hesitate. I´m so glad I did. A wonderful experience for anyone, especially a Fjord fan. Two days in the city, then returning to San Francisco Sunday. You all know who I´m going to see first -- yep, my own Fjordhorses! The humans will have to wait till Monday. Brigid Wasson
Therapeutic driving funding
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Sheri, Just a thought..The American Driving Society. Some on the list may know more about this than I do, as I am no longer a member of ADS but ADS has a special educational fund that may be available. The HOOPES-ADDIS EDUCATON TRUST provides funds for educational purposes. Audrey Bostwick, PA is the director of that fund. Contact the ADS to find out more. 810-664-8666 FAX: 810-664-2405 http://www.americandrivingsociety.org/ JEan in Fairbanks, Alaska, light rain and smoke, 60 degrees At 08:08 PM 8/6/2002 -0500, you wrote: >This message is from: "sheri kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I guess I am writting this in hopes >of finding some special funding for such a special program. I can tell you >that when you see these special people riding/driving a real horse, you will >never be the same again. We need to support one another. If you really love horses you will >understand. > >Thanks for listening, I read the list everyday! > >Sheri and Red > > > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
fjords as kids horses
This message is from: "Dave Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Everything that everyone has been talking about as Fjords for kids is true with ANY breed. Why do you just say Fjords. Sheri Kane hit the nail on the head, it is a respect issue. That is true with any breed, just like she said. So the Fjords will show their strength or go their own way if they don't respect you. Do you know what other breeds do, bolt, rear, buck, bite, they too will shove, evade the bit, etc etc etc. Fjords can do these too, but for the most part they get "bully". I am a 4H leader, I see all year long what other breeds do with kids. Some kids are naturally talented both in the saddle and handling horses, they are strongwilled and let the horse know it, other kids are timid and afraid. Guess who has the problems? Those timid kids want to ride, but they literally just want to be a passenger up there. They command no respect from the horse. Those are the kids that need the most well broke honest horse around. Basically most kids don't want to "learn" to ride they just want to ride. Think it has to do with the "I want things now" mentality of our society. Kids have to be taught HOW to handle horses, along with riding. I agree that young Fjords and young kids aren't the best answer. I tell buyers please go out and buy an older well trained suitable horse for your child, any breed. I just think we sometimes forget that Fjords are horses. A good majority are great horses for kids and a lot aren't. You need to know your horse and your kid. I think the breed in general is by far better off better for kids than other breeds. I have had several other breeds of horses and see the Fjords as the best with kids yet. I have had some of my 4H'ers bring my horses to shows. I have had some take lessons and even some have bought some Fjords for their kids. We even have taken many out on trail rides. I THANK GOD, and I mean that, nothing has ever happened, not even close. I contribute that to the Fjords! When I was in Germany, a large stable there gives riding lessons to kids. I believe they have something like 100 kids a week. He has been doing it for 30 yrs, NEVER having a serious accident, he too said it was due to having FJORDS. They also teach the kids VAULTING on the horse. Think you better have a steady breed to do what he is doing, he knows it, that is why he has Fjords. Being a breeder, trainer, and active in our local Fjord club. The biggest thing that gets me with this breed is the lack of thinking these are horses. I think when we have them for a while we forget how other breeds are, and/or we forget they are a horse. All different with their own personality and disposition. My Fjord may not be like my neighbors, in looks, color and disposition/personality. One Fjord is not the same as every Fjord. That is what a horse in general is, in any breed. You have to consider personality and disposition. I have not had much terrible with my Fjords, I expect them to behave. No ifs, ands or buts. I have had trouble with outside Fjords coming in for training. I know, Rich Monheim who is a certified John Lyons trainer in Eagle River Wi would say the same thing. A lot of very disrespectful Fjords, who's owners have not taught them to be respectful. Fjords are horses, they are very smart animals and will walk all over you, your child, whomever if you let them. Please people learn HOW to teach your horse manners. If you send it off to a trainer, learn from them, otherwise that horse will come back home and within days or hours it will be the same as before, walking all over you. I guess I should get down from my soap box. I could go on and on but I think (hope) I got my message across without anything get mixed up in cyberspace. Patti Jo Walter Francis Creek Fjords Two Rivers WI
Re: New Design
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/7/2002 8:44:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Please click below to see it. > I didn't get a link to click, but got a URL address, and it didn't work for me. I got to Cafe Press, but couldn't find my way into the Oregon Fjord sales items. Sigh. Can you help? Thanks, Pamela
raffle item
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm posting this for a friend who use to be on the list: Hi Would the person that wants the wooden cut out of the horses running over the hills for their raffle contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call me again. my husband messed up the message and phone number. :-) Sue
Re: If you raise young fjords please read this
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wouldn't mind taking a look Deb.. just send them normally. [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best way to train your eye for conformation is to critically look at as many other weanlings and photos as you can and gradually you'll develop a sense of what's best, and worst. You might also ask to survey the older siblings of this weanling for a rough idea of what might develop, although no two siblings are alike, you'll see the type it might be. You'll also discover in time that there is a vast difference between a weanling and their finished product as an adult, sometimes they'll surprise you =)) You can however somewhat project their mature size and conformation by their parentage and generally speaking, a well knit weanling will produce a well knit adult Fjord, with some exceptions perhaps. Nutrition, health, care, exercise, gender development... all play a role in their overall maturation process. The best of luck to you in your decision making process =))) Ruthie, nw mt > This message is from: "DT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I have my eye on a little guy that I have been watching since this past May. > I have pictures from the day of his birth up until today. I would like to > have some opinions. I am not looking for a champion. However I want a fellow > that will make a good pleasure riding horse one day. I don't want him to > have any defects that would prevent that. > > If I do purchase him I was going to go and get him in October as I want him > as soon as he is weaned. However I am no expert on young fjords and their > confimation etc. > > If you don't mind me sending you a few pics so you can give me your opinion > please let me know. I will send you a few. > > If you use a zip program let me know that as well as I will send you zip > files. Otherwise I will send you pics as you normally get them online. > > Thanks so much, > > Deb T.
Fwd: [haflingerfriends] Stolen Minis In NY
This message is from: "Linda Lehnert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Fjord Friends:+ I got this from the Haflinger Friends List and since it is important, I want to forward it to the Fjord List as well. If anyone comes across any of these stolen minis, this man would greatly appreciate help anyone can give. We are always sad when we hear of stolen horses. About 20 years ago when I lived in GA they had a serious problem with stolen horses that all ended up at a slaughter house. The problem became really bad and the state finally got enough evidence that the slaughter house was buying stolen horses and closed them down, which ended the problem. Hope someone out there can help. Also I want to thank each of you who wrote to tell me why a Fjord is a better choice. I really appreciate your e-mails. As you know, enthusiasm is contagious and since I had such good response from the Fjord List, I am now looking for a Fjord. Two people have or had Morgans and think a Fjord is a good choice for someone who has had Morgans before and this information was particularly helpful since the Fjords obviously compare well with the Morgans. I've always though that you just can't beat a good Morgan and it seems the same is true of a good Fjord. Wish me luck in my search. Grüßen aus Reichelsheim in der Odenwald, Linda Lehnert >From: "Diana Uttermohlen" >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "HF group" ,"Bob-Cele" ,"Bonnie" ,"Karen" >Subject: [haflingerfriends] Stolen Minis In NY >Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:35:07 -0400 > >Hi All, > >Gee, I guess I am just the barer of bad news lately. First the lightning story, then the halter story, now this. Sigh... >I got this post from the PPL list that I am on. I was asked to please pass this on. So, if any of you can pass this on, it would be very much appreciated! >Thank you, >Diana >--- >- Original Message - >From: Lil Bity Ranch >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 7:47 PM >Subject: [DonkeyRescue] STOLEN MINIS >>Please crosspost where you can > > >HorseWitch (Original Message)Sent: 8/6/2002 4:18 PM >Joe LaClair of Wayland in Western NY had 9 minis stolen from his property last week. The people cut the wire, drove in and took all but the one without a halter. They even took this mare's unweaned foal. The horses had relatively new halters on, the girls had pink and purple and the had teal halters. There were knots at the top of the halters. They were as follows... > >36" black mare with white stomach and 3 white dots under right eye. > >chestnut mare - 1/2 blind in left eye > >Big B black mare with hitch in her getalong like as with "stringhalt" or locked stifle > >3 almost identical young chestnut mares - 2 with strips on the face and 1 with a snip. 32" - 33" > >buckskin/white pinto weanling filly, with a duck's shape on her face and a heart on her right side in the white ( may look gray when clipped) > >black and white colt (clipped looks gray) only 7 weeks old. > >dapple pinto filly 4 months old > >Joe LaClair 585-728-2112 >e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >**Anything you can do to publish this would be appreciated. He is very heartsick.** > > > > > > > >http://www.mountainhorsewebdesign.com > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Yahoo! Groups >-~-> > >Community email addresses: > Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Shortcut URL to this page: > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here
Karen McCarthy
This message is from: "Cheryl Gioia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is info regarding Karen used with permission from another list.Please send her your encouragement.This is a great list! One of our Silver State competitors, Karen McCarthy of Carson City NV, was injured at her home this past Sunday. Karen was getting ready to meet some others for a drive and was bumped by a horse, fell and fractured a lumbar vertebra. Karen was careflighted to Reno to see a specialist. The last we have heard is that she will not need surgery, but her doctors will put her in a back brace. Karen, we wish you a speedy recovery and don't hesitate to let us locals know if we can help. I spoke with Karen today, she called from ICU, they are making a body cast like a jacket for her that she may be wearing for about 12 weeks. When it happened, she had lost feeling in her legs, but feeling and movement came back after a little while. She thinks she will be released in a day or two, and is anxious to go home. Cheryl Gioia ,Colorado
FWD from CD-L: re Karen McCarthy
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -begin forwarded message I talked to Karen in the hospital today. She's doing fine. She cracked a vertabrae and will be in a "clam-shell" cast for some weeks. They expect her to go home in a couple of days. Dave Kaiser suggested phone calls or visits after she gets home. Charlene Margesson -end forwarded message
Work wanted
This message is from: "Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello List... I have a wonderful couple that have been caretaking here for the past 16 months that are wanting to move on. They are looking for the same type of work but in WA, Canada, Alaska, Utah, Idaho or Montana. He is a great over all farm hand with lots of muscle and can weed eat until the cows come home. She is a loveable good house keeper and animal lover. She knows a little about all animals and LOVES the Fjords. Both are willing to learn new tasks and both are dependable. If anyone knows of someone needing caretakers or ranch help ... please email me personally. They are looking to leave here by the end of the month. Thank you, Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2002 #180
This message is from: "sheri kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'd like to comment on a few of the issues that have been discussed lately on the list. I own 1 Fjordhorse, 5 years old, trained to ride and drive. He also works, in a light capacity, in a therapeutic riding program. I am a certified level instructor through NARHA. This is my first Fjordhorse. He is indeed the most level headed, kind and gentle horse on earth, but can be very easily bored and single minded. I believe that he can sense a special needs rider and will cooperated nicely for them, but if a weak rider,, gets on and doesnt demand respect from him, he will take them wherever he wants to go. He wouldnt hurt a fly, but will take the reins over and move on to greener pasture, literally, if you let him. A rider must learn to "control" the horse properly,ANY HORSE, ANY RIDER!! To think that any breed of horse is child proof is ridiculous. At this stage in my horses training, I would not sell him to a child without knowning that he/she has good horse skills. When my Fjordhorse was a little over 3 years old I sent him to a friend of mine who breeds and trains Fjords to ride/drive. She is known to many of you on this list, she lives in Wisconsin, I do also. I had my horse riding lightly and ground driving at this time. She had him for 1 month. I went to her for some basic driving lessons while he was with her. He came back to me like he had driven for his whole life. My Fjordhorse loves driving and I go everywhere with him. I always take along another person in case of problems, but I've never had problems yet. I have taken each step very slowly and I do alot of reading. I think the trick is to "listen" to your horse and take things slow. If they are not ready to move ahead, then dont! I believe that my horse loves to drive, and enjoys trail riding because he bores easily. Now that he is over 5 years old I will move him to a lesson barn where we can take regular lessons and he can loose his big fat grass belly. He has been on a very chewed down grass pasture with 5 other horses while away at the therapeutic stables and he is FAT! I cant wait to get him going nicely into the canter and actually take lessons on him. I have made the commitment to take things slowly with him. I hope to keep him a good long while. I find the need to be very firm and consistent with him in every area, I dont mind this because I have a friend that will go anywhere, do anything for/with me A small price to pay for the best friend on earth!!! Last year I taught a basic driving class for a few of our special needs clients at the REINS using Red. He was fabulous This year we have been told that every NARHA certified program needs an additional certification to teach driving classes. I am ready and willing to go to get this certification but with fees and travel expenses,,,etc. I am not able to attend such a clinic. Our program is riding around 80 riders each summer, 2 months right now. We are non profit and we all work our tails off to see that our riders get at least 1,4 week riding session per year. We dont have the $ to fund this either.I guess I am writting this in hopes of finding some special funding for such a special program. I can tell you that when you see these special people riding/driving a real horse, you will never be the same again. These special horses are the real healers and they give everything for us. I hate to think that my drivers will not be driving again. Two of them have weight issues, and 1 has back issues so that he cannot ride anymore. 1 driver was a small child when he was hit by a car on bike. He will never marry or drive a car, but he can drive a horse. He lives to do just that. Any one of us could be placed in that position at any time. We need to support one another. If you really love horses you will understand. Thanks for listening, I read the list everyday! Sheri and Red
saddles
This message is from: "Andy Mayberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a question about saddles. I have a 13 y.o. mare, drafty conformation. I'm having a hard time finding a western saddle to fit her. I tried a treeless saddle which fit the horse OK, but the rider didn't care for it much. Any experience/suggestions? I do some pretty strenuous riding in rugged, steep southern Arizona hills. Thanks, Andy _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
If you raise young fjords please read this
This message is from: "DT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have my eye on a little guy that I have been watching since this past May. I have pictures from the day of his birth up until today. I would like to have some opinions. I am not looking for a champion. However I want a fellow that will make a good pleasure riding horse one day. I don't want him to have any defects that would prevent that. If I do purchase him I was going to go and get him in October as I want him as soon as he is weaned. However I am no expert on young fjords and their confimation etc. If you don't mind me sending you a few pics so you can give me your opinion please let me know. I will send you a few. If you use a zip program let me know that as well as I will send you zip files. Otherwise I will send you pics as you normally get them online. Thanks so much, Deb T.
