Re: congratulations Karen!

2003-01-15 Thread Conerstonefjords
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Greetings from Cornerstone Fjords and the Rollins family..
 We are so tickled to hear about your special arrival in the winter.  
What a neat blessing, healthy, happy, and content with Mom (both fjord and 
human).  In the middle of winter this was so nice to hear, a new life and the 
smell of the little one in a fresh stall, awaiting your arrival home each 
day..:)  Jim, Kathy, & Ethan



List Protocol for Members

2003-01-15 Thread Ursula & Brian Jensen
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Dear list from Brian Jensen;
  From a personal perspective I do not believe the list
can possibly manage to be all things to all people. It is very possible for
those interested to follow their own interest and develop their own list for
discussion. I am a Registered Fjord owner interested in the Stewardship of the
purebred breed as defined by the mother country Norway. That being said my
North American interest is for the NFHR and CFHA to carry these principles and
standards to the owners and breeders of Registered Fjords in in North
America.
   I remain thankful to Steve and his broad spectrum forum
over the kitchen table for discussions. It does afford list members the
opportunity to soap-box their thoughts and ideas. Especially for us more
remote individuals the chance to be connected to other Registered Fjord owners
and Breeders, that is a treat. Topics of interest to me on the list are about
what Registered Fjords are doing in North America and how they came to do it.
I remain hopeful the list maintains its standards with no exceptions to other
interest groups or special interest lobbyists.  thankyou---Brian Jensen
Trinity Fjords
Box 1032
Lumby BC, V0E 2G0
Canada 250-547-6303
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RE: fjord promotion

2003-01-15 Thread The Mercers
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Krist,

The pictures don't come through on the list.  Any chance of your sending
them to me or posting them to a site on the web for viewing?  They sound
wonderful!

Taffy Mercer



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This message is from: "Krist Martinsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This message is from Krist Martinsen

The attachment shows us promoting our Fjord, Per, at our friend's
Christmas
Tree Farm this Dec.  We have given free rides through the tree farm the
past
four years on weekends in Dec.  Before that we lived on Orcas Island in
Washington state and while practicing a cone course during the summer,
lots of
tourists stopped to look and were curious as to this beautiful breed.
They
took many pictures over the years.

In the pictures attached, the tree farm owner's kitten decided to
investigate
his  hind leg --to everyone's amazement, Per just kept looking for
another
weed to eat as the kitten climbed his hock.  A good example of a calm
breed.
Enjoy!

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Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #17

2003-01-15 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I agree about Linda posting one or two notices a month re rescues. It is
fjord based, I contributed and would like to help in another pinch.  I had
already suggested this earlier re once or twice and glad others feel the
same.  Steve would that be too bad on the list?   Jean










Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
Author:The Colonel's Daughter
$20 PO Box 104
Montesano, WA 98563



fjord promotion

2003-01-15 Thread Krist Martinsen
This message is from: "Krist Martinsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This message is from Krist Martinsen

The attachment shows us promoting our Fjord, Per, at our friend's Christmas
Tree Farm this Dec.  We have given free rides through the tree farm the past
four years on weekends in Dec.  Before that we lived on Orcas Island in
Washington state and while practicing a cone course during the summer, lots of
tourists stopped to look and were curious as to this beautiful breed.  They
took many pictures over the years.

In the pictures attached, the tree farm owner's kitten decided to investigate
his  hind leg --to everyone's amazement, Per just kept looking for another
weed to eat as the kitten climbed his hock.  A good example of a calm breed.
Enjoy!

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Re: Bungee cords beware

2003-01-15 Thread Jenn M
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my friend just had an accident with one, a bungee cord,  the horse pulled
back and it broke and all of the strands hit her and she had to get 50
stiches and almost lost her eye.  if you want to se pictures of the
bungee or her eye after let me know

Jenn

>From: "Deb Williams"

>Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >To: >Subject: Re: Bungee cords
>Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:34:57 -0500 > >This message is from: "Deb
Williams" > >I know 2 people who got the bungee cord ties and they both
had broken >shortly after starting to use them. Luckily no injury
associated. I >haven't had much luck with bungee cords lasting around the
farm in general. >Seems the latex strands disintegrate rapidly. >Debi
Williams >Williams Hill Fjords >Waterford, Pa >Home of Tolgar,Belle and
Levi,Hilda,Senja,Beckett,Rosie and Daniel



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Re: Weedsport

2003-01-15 Thread Hope Carlson
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Hello listers, is there anyone closeby to the Weedsport/Auburn/PortByron
area in NewYork?  My friend, Maralee, would like to see a Fjord up close.
No email, the work number is:(315) 253-6002.  She is very excited about
this.  We plan to go together to the Weedsport Show, I am really looking
forward to it.

Joel, I liked your post, learned alot, please write more often.

Hope
N IL



fjordhorse-digest V2003 #18

2003-01-15 Thread fjordhorse-digest

fjordhorse-digestWednesday, January 15 2003Volume 2003 : Number 018



In this issue:

   Re: arena footing
   Re: Direct TV and RFD
   Re: arena footing
   Re: arena footing
   Re: arena footing
   Re: longhaired stallion
   Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #17
   Re: Direct TV and RFD
   Re: Bungee cords
   Gelding for sale
   Life on the Ground
   Ingrid Ivic
   starting a load
   RE: Ingrid Ivic
   ...why this List is SO cool!
   Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #17
   Re: starting a load
   Re: Gelding for sale
   Re: Januar surprise!
   RE: ...why this List is SO cool!
   Re: Carriage Driving Clinic 
   Re: Carriage Driving Clinic 

See the end of the digest for information on how to retrieve back issues.

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:55:43 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: arena footing

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Marti

I have recently been in three arenas - all three with different footing.  One 
is sand, one is sand and dirt and one is shavings.  I prefer the sand/dirt or 
shavings.  The all sand is very dusty and too deep.especially for 
driving.  The shavings are best for driving and the arena owner never drags - 
just waters down.  The shavings have been there for a long time and are fine 
- - not the big chip type.

I hope to have an arena up north and am thinking I will do 
shavings..unless I hear about something better from your post.

Linda in MN

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:58:38 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Direct TV and RFD

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funny, Gail:)  My husband loves to pick on me when the subject of digital 
cameras come up..I HAD to get one.can't remember from one visit to 
another how to use it (my daughter and son-in-law try to help me).he 
is always saying, "Don't forget the digital camera"

Linda in MN  sunny but VERY cold with a little dusting of snow

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:41:22 -0600
From: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arena footing

This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
bolinsj wrote:

> This message is from: bolinsj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I have a friend who is putting in a new indoor and needs info on arena 
> footing.  Any thoughts on what would be  best for multiple disciplines?

Friends of mine highly recommend a dealer from Stillwater, OK.  Name is 
Barbara Bramwell and the #is 1-800-845-9558.  They said they had it in 
their indoor arena and it was very dust free.

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Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:05:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Holly Tuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arena footing

This message is from: Holly Tuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Martie,
For riding and jumping at the arena where my five year
old took some lessons they used rubber crumble, said
they had had it on the floor for years.  I found that
this had to be watered down, if not it played havoc
with my asthma.
Just one thing you might look into or someone with
more knowledge can comment on.
Holly  

> I have a friend who is putting in a new indoor and
> needs info on arena footing.  Any thoughts on what
would be  best for multiple disciplines? 

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:23:33 -0600
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arena footing

This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
usdf sells a booklet (six dollars I think) called underfoot written by George 
Williams.  Wery good source.  I have rubber/sand mix and love it .  Good 
cushion/spring, very little watering needed, pretty dust free.  Recommendations 
for depth and mix rate are in the book.
k.
> 
> From: bolinsj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/01/14 Tue PM 01:43:54 CST
> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
> Subject: arena footing
> 
> This message is from: bolinsj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> I have a friend who is putting in a new indoor and needs info on arena 
> footing.  Any thoughts on what would be  best for multiple disciplines? 
>  She rides and jumps, he drives.  Any web sites that might explain what 
> is available, what is good for different activities or what the cost 
> comparisons might be?
> 
> thanks for any help,
> Martie in MD

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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:32:30 -0800
From: "shawna smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: longhaired stallion

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Subject: Re: Hello at last and info on long maned fjord

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Welcome Shawna.
That longhaired stallion has some good bloodline, with Rudaren as grandsire
on one side and back to Grabb on botgh side

Re: Carriage Driving Clinic

2003-01-15 Thread SorgerJ
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writes:


> Hi Cynthia
> I have my registration form here ready to fill out for the clinic but I 
> need 
> to know if I can do a longlining lesson with Jeff, were you able to find 
> out? 
> 
> Do you remember Linda, you met her at the horse fair last year, she owns 
> Traviata (fjord). She would like to come down with me for the clinic would 
> you have room for her to stay, she would just audit the clinic.
> 
   I'm sorry this was supposed to go just to Cynthia. I am the chair for a 
retreat the deadline for registrations is tomorrow, I have had over 30 people 
call or email today to say their registrations will be late, the caterer will 
just love me. My brain is going, think I need a fjord fix, I'm off to the 
barn to hug and brush a couple of fjords, the phone can wait.
Sue



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Re: Carriage Driving Clinic

2003-01-15 Thread SorgerJ
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Hi Cynthia
I have my registration form here ready to fill out for the clinic but I need 
to know if I can do a longlining lesson with Jeff, were you able to find out? 

Do you remember Linda, you met her at the horse fair last year, she owns 
Traviata (fjord). She would like to come down with me for the clinic would 
you have room for her to stay, she would just audit the clinic.
 Sue



RE: ...why this List is SO cool!

2003-01-15 Thread The Mercers
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Karen,

I am no expert in anything Fjord - only been owned by them since May of
last year!  But I know from experience that what may seem "humdrum" to
one person is a wealth of knowledge to another (usually me!).  So I'm
always willing to help with what little I know.

There are now 10 Fjords/4 owners (that I know of) in the Tri-City area
here.  I think it might be time for all of us to get together and share
our adventures!

Taffy Mercer
Kennewick, WA


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Subject: ...why this List is SO cool!

This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Taffy, you just demonstrated to me one of the reasons this List is so
cool & I am so glad it exists - that you are willing to give "hands on"
help to Eileen & Marikape is awesome; kinda brings the neighborhood
feelng into REAL play. Cheers, Kmac

Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City,
Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Original
Message Follows From: "The Mercers" Subject: RE: Looking for work
collars in Northwest Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:55:55 -0800 Eileen, I'm
in
Kennewick and have a draft harness for my mare, Reina. I'd be happy to
help you out. Taffy Mercer



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Re: Januar surprise!

2003-01-15 Thread Karen McCarthy
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Janice,

Yes, it is VERY good indeed to have a new foal in the barn...I can barely
drag myself off to work in the morning, and then can't wait to get home
in the evening. I love the way they stand there, so alert, so charged
with energy, and then the SMELL!  I love the way they smell, especially
their breath. Heck,I love the way Fjords of any age smell, especially at
this colder time of the year, a bit "muskier" than usual (Jeez, I think
if you look into the archives, there was alittle discussion of this a way
back).  The only downfall of scritching & scratching those baby Fjords is
that in no time at all your fingertips turn black from their greasy
little coats. I am no expert, and this may sound a bit wierd, (but hey,
as an admitted horse sniffer, maybe wierd by degrees?!) but do any of you
expert vet-types out there agree that Fjord foals have an unusually high
degree of ..lanolin(?) or other "greasy" stuff that naturally occurs in
their haircoat? My theory, to maybe help 'waterproof' them, as
historically they have foaled out for centuries in an enviroment that is
not, er, exactly the French Riviera, eh?  Oh wellI kinda went off the
deep end there, didn't I??!   

Janice, as soon as I have more time during the weekend, and maybe with
some lousy weather thrown in to boot, I promise you,(and all the others
who have inquired), that I will post Mr Januar's pics..and by the
way, if I told my Mom how much ya'll liked her name choice, I betcha
she'd designate herself the Official Great Basin Fjords Name Tsarina, and
then..well, you get the picture ;~))  KMac

Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, 
Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Original
Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003
15:49:23 EST "..oh, lucky you! A baby in the barn. So glad all went well.
Let us know when there are pictures available. Congratulate your mom on
her great name selection!! janice in Nebraska



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Re: Gelding for sale

2003-01-15 Thread HorseLotti
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Laurie;

What a cutie pie - I hope you find him a wonderful home.  

Linda in MN



Re: starting a load

2003-01-15 Thread HorseLotti
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Thanks Joel - so interesting!!



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #17

2003-01-15 Thread ruth bushnell
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > Could a compromise be reached where Lynda gets to post one rescue status
> > update once per month?  Dolph

I think a total ban on this topic is unfortunate.  Personally I would like
to hear updates on some regular basis, and I think at the very least Lynda
should be permitted to have a link in her signature so anyone wanting more
info can find the website quickly.  > Janet W McNally
>

I AGREE with Dolph and Janet here. although I expressed support for
Steve's decision, I didn't realize it was a TOTAL  ban!

One BRIEF monthly rescue synopsis including the rescue link would be
appropriate and compassionate, but of course I realize this is entirely
Steve's decision.

Ruthie, nw mt



...why this List is SO cool!

2003-01-15 Thread Karen McCarthy
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Taffy, you just demonstrated to me one of the reasons this List is so
cool & I am so glad it exists - that you are willing to give "hands on"
help to Eileen & Marikape is awesome; kinda brings the neighborhood
feelng into REAL play. Cheers, Kmac

Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, 
Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Original
Message Follows From: "The Mercers" Subject: RE: Looking for work
collars in Northwest Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:55:55 -0800 Eileen, I'm in
Kennewick and have a draft harness for my mare, Reina. I'd be happy to
help you out. Taffy Mercer



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RE: Ingrid Ivic

2003-01-15 Thread Lisa Schieler
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Sure, It is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:07 AM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Ingrid Ivic

This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

Does anyone have Ingrid's email address?  I cannot seem to find it 
anywhere...although I suspect it is under one of these piles of notes.
:)

Thanks,

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's Norwegian Fjords 
Quality Fjords--Equine Transportation--Hand-braided Tack & Accessories
White Cloud, MI
231-689-9902
FAX: 775-383-6813
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords

United Equine Foundation
http://www.unitedequinefoundation.org/homepage.htm

Lynda C. Welch
Vice President, Norwegian Fjord Representative
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

UEF Fjord rescue email group: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  



starting a load

2003-01-15 Thread wanda m hill
This message is from: wanda m hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This is from Joel Harman.

There are several reasons one wants to teach a horse in harness to ease
into a load. Visualize slamming your shoulder into a door frame several
times a day for years. Over time your shoulders are going to get sore.
The collar has some padding but the end result will be the same. 

The reason horses want to hit the collar hard is to overcome friction to
get the load moving. What you have to do is keep the horse on the bit
when you ask it to get the load moving. It will learn that getting
collected on the hinds will allow it to start that load without jerking
it. As the load gets heavier, say a 1200# bale, that 900# horse will not
be able to jerk that load to get it moving. They may even hop on both
hinds simultaneously to move the load.

Another reason to ease into it is to keep from breaking hame straps. When
not paying enough attention I have hung up a log on a stump & had the
horse walk right out of the harness because the hame strap broke.

I don't remember if you have the bale on a sled. You could have the horse
start at an angle to break the bale loose. In other words allow her to
swing a little left or right when starting. This is often done when
ground skidding. The horse is still pulling the load, just not straight
ahead. The log weighs more than the horses. 

You can tell the horse is in the collar when they keep their head tucked.
It is good to keep them on the bit with taut lines. They learn when that
pressure means "whoa" & when you mean move forward. 

So when you start her, little pressure on the lines, her ears will point
back to you. She has you dialed in now. Ask her to go forward, keep
pressure on the lines. She gets into the collar, traces are tight.
Encourage her forward more, watch her hind end tighten up. The bale
starts to move, away you go!

As the load moves the horse may want to go faster, like a horse trotting
uphill because it is easier. Can the human walk faster than the horse? I
doubt it. Walk as fast as you are comfortable going. The horse will learn
that going too fast means stopping & starting the load all over again.
Keep the lines tight. This will help to keep the horse from going faster
that you can walk.

 I know your horse can handle the bale. We have to know the limits of the
horse. Brag alert - a few years ago my 960# horse pulled 2900# on a sled
at a pulling contest in Ferry County ,WA. He probably could have pulled
more but I stopped there. He was in shape & had been in harness
regularly. I did not want to hook onto weight he could not pull.

Tips. Hook as short as you can. This will provide some lift on the load
when going forward. You may be so short that the singletree would bang
the horse's heels if not hooked to the load. When you start forward that
tree will go up & not even be near the heels  Just remember to lengthen
at least one side when not hooked to the load anymore.

A team has to start together. That may necessitate some fancy line work
if one is hot & the other is a doodioo. Just takes time. Kind of like 
lots of wet saddle blankets is what it takes to make a good saddle horse.

Some horses are natural pullers. Some are slugs. It is very satisfying to
see a horse or team work hard for you. 

Just like my favorite sound is the sound of a sicklebar going back &
forth.

Hope this helps

Joel Harman  logging & custom farming with fjords
Brass Ring Ranch
Mosier OR

 sometimes we show our work horses


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Ingrid Ivic

2003-01-15 Thread BaileysFjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

Does anyone have Ingrid's email address?  I cannot seem to find it 
anywhere...although I suspect it is under one of these piles of notes.  :)

Thanks,

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's Norwegian Fjords 
Quality Fjords--Equine Transportation--Hand-braided Tack & Accessories
White Cloud, MI
231-689-9902
FAX: 775-383-6813
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords

United Equine Foundation
http://www.unitedequinefoundation.org/homepage.htm

Lynda C. Welch
Vice President, Norwegian Fjord Representative
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

UEF Fjord rescue email group: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  



Life on the Ground

2003-01-15 Thread wanda m hill
This message is from: wanda m hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This is from Jord.

Thanks for your nice comments. It really is hard to hit the keys as I
have grown. I liked writing when I first hit the ground. The human told
me there was something called archives but I don't know how to look at
them. There is lots of info on what the human made me do when I was
little.

It's funny to watch Baar, my little brother, when the human works with
him. He sure makes things hard on himself.  Mom told me Baar was tied to
the back of the wagon in the parade at the threshing bee last year. He
set back on his hinds like he was going to keep that wagon from moving.
Then he had to jump forward so he wouldn't get dragged.   What a dummy.
Never, never pull against what you are tied to, lose every time. 

Anyway, I really don't have much to say. I am a little depressed that no
one wants to take me or my dad to a new home.

Bye

Jord   U U

  U U 


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