RE: Evening Of Dancing Horses

2003-01-23 Thread The Mercers
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It's nice to hear how amazed the "rest of the world" is when they get to
see what we see every day.

Congratulations and thanks to Beth, et al, for making such a wonderful
positive impression!

Taffy Mercer
Owned by Reina, Lisken and Thor



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Subject: Evening Of Dancing Horses

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My friend in Longmont, Colorado, who bought my palomino filly, went to
The 
Evening Of Dancing Horses.  She sent a critique to my little email
circle, 
and I asked permission to forward it to this group, as I figured this
was 
Beth's drill team.  And she'd want to hear what a quarter horse person 
thought of their performance.

Here is her critique:
> One of the performances that just blew me away, though, was an all
Fjord 
> drill team.  The riders were dressed in black shirts and pants with
red 
> sequined vests and cowboy hats.  They rode what looked like Australian

> saddles.  It was hard to tell exactly from where I was sitting.  They
had 
> obviously worked hard on their routine and it definitely showed.
Every 
> move was absolutely precision.  They had about 10 riders and a woman 
> driving a small carriage.  Those little Fjords were relaxed and having
a 
> terrific time.  They weren't the least bit bothered by the moving 
> spotlights or the big crowd or the live music.  I was really
impressed.
I wish you  could have heard some of the comments 
> about their performance.  People were very impressed.  First of all,
the 
> sight of all those Fjords in the ring together in front of a heavily 
> non-Fjord knowledgable crowd, made a big impression.  Then the skill
of her 
> riders and the obvious disposition of the horses made a huge
impression.  I 
> thought about you and kicked myself for not bringing a video camera.
I had 
> no idea they would be there.  I'll be ready next time.  

Pamela
 http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html";>Northern
Holiday Horses 



Re: Close Call!

2003-01-23 Thread HorseLotti
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Pat - I will be interested to hear what the Dr say about cold weather/horse 
health.

This year because of our warmish temps (until two weeks ago) I had not 
plugged in our heated water buckets.  Instead, I put warm water in the 
buckets each night.  It seems to me the horses are drinking more 
water...our baby "Hasse" especially likes the warm water - maybe reminds 
him of warm milk:)

Linda in MN



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #25

2003-01-23 Thread Lpwollowitz
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Re: Poem from Aimee
Wow! Super poem, better than the original by Jenny Joseph "When I am an old 
woman".
The secret is however that we "older" mares just don't get old when we have 
these Fjords - they suit us through all phases of womanhood - from crazy 
games as teens through quiet driving or just sitting in pastures with them by 
our sides.  So there,all you hotdog Thoroughbred, Hackney and Saddlebred 
owners! (I once owned those breeds, but as I once wrote...been with the rest, 
now with the best!)
Linda Wollowitz in Snowy Syracuse where it's 8 below zero in my yard as I 
write!



Re: How much memory?

2003-01-23 Thread Jean Ernest
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Well, it may not be a book on animal Memory exactly but read  'KINDRED
SPIRITS' by Allen M.Schoen, DVM:  "How the remarkable bond between humans
and animals can change the way we live"  You will love this book!

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, clear and moderately cold, temperature inversion
: +10  at my house, -12 downtown.

>If there's not been a book done on the memory of animals Jean, there
>certainly should be!
>
>Ruthie, nw mt
>http://www.libby.org/~bushnell
>
>

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Evening Of Dancing Horses

2003-01-23 Thread Northhorse
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My friend in Longmont, Colorado, who bought my palomino filly, went to The 
Evening Of Dancing Horses.  She sent a critique to my little email circle, 
and I asked permission to forward it to this group, as I figured this was 
Beth's drill team.  And she'd want to hear what a quarter horse person 
thought of their performance.

Here is her critique:
> One of the performances that just blew me away, though, was an all Fjord 
> drill team.  The riders were dressed in black shirts and pants with red 
> sequined vests and cowboy hats.  They rode what looked like Australian 
> saddles.  It was hard to tell exactly from where I was sitting.  They had 
> obviously worked hard on their routine and it definitely showed.  Every 
> move was absolutely precision.  They had about 10 riders and a woman 
> driving a small carriage.  Those little Fjords were relaxed and having a 
> terrific time.  They weren't the least bit bothered by the moving 
> spotlights or the big crowd or the live music.  I was really impressed.
I wish you  could have heard some of the comments 
> about their performance.  People were very impressed.  First of all, the 
> sight of all those Fjords in the ring together in front of a heavily 
> non-Fjord knowledgable crowd, made a big impression.  Then the skill of her 
> riders and the obvious disposition of the horses made a huge impression.  I 
> thought about you and kicked myself for not bringing a video camera.  I had 
> no idea they would be there.  I'll be ready next time.  

Pamela
 http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html";>Northern Holiday 
Horses 



Re: How much memory?

2003-01-23 Thread ruth bushnell
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.  I wonder if anyone has ever done a study of
> the memory of the horse?  Certainly being mistreated leaves a memory.
Jean

I believe animals have much more in the way of a memory than we even begin
to give them credit for, call it anthropomorphizing if you will, but there
are countless stories of their grieving the loss of a master, or a pet mate.

There's a classic case right here in Montana, a favorite story of mine, a
dog story that really happened in the 1930's which portrays a devotion (and
a memory) that defies all rational explanation. A sheepdog's master died and
his body was shipped away. As the coffin was loaded at the train station an
onlooking dog was seen pitifully whining. Every day thereafter for 5-1/2
years until his death, the dog faithfully met each incoming train, searching
for his beloved master.

Old Shep, as he was known, has a bronze sculpted likeness as a tribute to
his faithfulness on a hill overlooking the abandoned tracks in Fort Benton,
MT.

Just one of thousands of illustrations of an animal's ability to love, and
to remember because of that love. Which of course includes Fjords as well!
=

If there's not been a book done on the memory of animals Jean, there
certainly should be!

Ruthie, nw mt
http://www.libby.org/~bushnell



Re: How much memory?

2003-01-23 Thread Jean Gayle
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Whoa, that is really long term memory Steve.  I think we really sell our
animals short on many things because they do not speak our language.   Jean





Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
Author:The Colonel's Daughter
$20 PO Box 104
Montesano, WA 98563



Re: Close Call!

2003-01-23 Thread Jean Ernest
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One thing the vets here in Interior Alaska stres for winter horse care, is
water intake...The biggest cause of colic here in our cold winters in
impaction colic. Not only is the weather very dry and water frozen unless
heated with a tank heater.
WATER is the most important item, with more hay eaten, of course more water
is necessary, making sure you have a heated tank is best, and making sure
they ALWAYS have water.  Adding salt to their feed is one way of getting
them to drink more.  I don't have that problem as I have salt blocks right
nest to the water tank and they'll eat them like candy.  Lick salt, take a
sip, lick more salt, another sip, etc.

I hope Patrick does well, guess he did have the surgery?

Jean in sunny Fairbanks, ALaska, getting colder again, but +10 at my house,
-17 in town.  

 >A good sized impaction was removed 
>from his large colon.  Luckily, there had been no damage to any of his 
>systems.  Patrick will be coming home tomorrow!  His prognosis is 
>excellent...  
>I will forever be vigilant in watching a variety of things...  This freezing 
>cold weather in NY State has resulted in many horses coming to Cornell with 
>colic problems.  I've learned a lot about fluid intake observation.  

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Close Call!

2003-01-23 Thread Momster18
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Hello Fjord Friends-
I've done a lot of reading and lurking and very little inputting... First, I 
am so sorry for your loss Alison.  I can only imagine the sadness in your 
heart and the emptiness you feel.  This almost happened to me just recently. 
My gelding Patrick began to colic last Thursday.  Before I knew it, the next 
day we were headed to Cornell University's Vet. Hospital.   I was sure I 
would lose my boy... He needed surgery.  A good sized impaction was removed 
from his large colon.  Luckily, there had been no damage to any of his 
systems.  Patrick will be coming home tomorrow!  His prognosis is 
excellent...  
I will forever be vigilant in watching a variety of things...  This freezing 
cold weather in NY State has resulted in many horses coming to Cornell with 
colic problems.  I've learned a lot about fluid intake observation.  Tomorrow 
I will receive some ideas from the surgeon related to feeding  and keeping my 
horses well during these arctic days.  
I was very lucky!  
The medical and office staff at Cornell University were excellent!  Their 
care for Patrick was amazing!  Equally, their care for me was heart warming!  
:-)  
Looking forward to 30degrees F!  
Pat McCurdy
Cato, NY
Proud owner of Anitra, Patrick, and Willie



Re: How much memory?

2003-01-23 Thread Steve McIlree
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Jean--

Thursday, January 23, 2003, you wrote:

> I wonder if anyone has ever done a study of the memory of the horse?

  Several years ago we move our horses back to a boarding facility
  where they had been boarded a number of years earlier. The first
  time we went out for a ride on the trails through the forest, the
  horses seemed to be more comfortable than they usually are on
  unfamiliar trails. After a bit we came to a side trail which was
  actually a shortcut back to the barn. Even though this new trail lay
  in a direction entirely away from the barn, the horses tried to take
  it as if they remembered it was the way home even though had not
  been on it in thirteen years.

 --
Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA
 How silent the woods would be if only the best birds sang.  --Oliver Wendel 
Holmes



Re: to Steve M.

2003-01-23 Thread SorgerJ
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In a message dated 1/23/03 12:37:22 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Steve wrote:
> " Since I am not a great cookie baker, I left the
> Fjord cookie cutter in New Mexico hoping that it will
> encourage Cynthia to bake some scratch cookies."
> 
> Cynthia's response:
> 
> YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING!
   
  Sue & John's response
  
  WHAT! no fjord shaped cookies when we come on Saturday. They were  
  all we were coming for, will have to give the long drive down there a bit 
more  
  thought. 



How much memory?

2003-01-23 Thread Jean Gayle
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Last week a lady and her husband came to look at my Holsteiner mare that is
for sale.  We walked into the field where Gunnar and the mare were feeding at
the far side. Gunnar is very easy to catch, just stands wherever he is and
waits for you to halter him.

This time as we started into the field he threw up his head, ears stretching
up, and let out a squeal and came thundering toward us.  I told the couple to
stand still as he would not hurt them and it appeared he thought he knew them.
As he drew near he circled still squealing and the mare decided it was her
turn so she joined him in a great rush which set me back a bit. The visitors
must have thought it was always like this.

Gunnar circled several times and then stopped and went to grazing and I caught
him easily.
He paid little attention to the couple and I think he realized they were not
who he thought. It was rather sad.  I have had him three years now and he
had gone through quite a few owners being spoiled and mistreated.

I am sure he is waiting for someone, or simply thought he knew someone he
obviously cared a great deal for.  I wonder if anyone has ever done a study of
the memory of the horse?  Certainly being mistreated leaves a memory.  Jean










Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
Author:The Colonel's Daughter
$20 PO Box 104
Montesano, WA 98563



Weanling gelding for sale

2003-01-23 Thread Jimaryjmh
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Hello Everyone

With great reluctance we have decided to offer for sale the first Fjord born 
on our farm.  With three Fjords under four in training, I feel that there is 
not enough time to do justice to anymore.

Asa is now an 8 month old gelding out of Sonja 7 C-797-BXB-B-932-M by NFR 
Arve FV-1-740-S.  Asa's grandsire and dam on dam's side were both imported 
from Norway and his grandsire on sire's side is Konggard.  Asa has been 
handled twice daily since his arrival here, has had all inoculations, 
worming, hoof care, etc.  He is a joy to take care of, a perfect gentleman, 
who truly seems to enjoy human interaction. 

We have had Asa's full sister, NFR Shastamen, since she was a weanling.  She 
is now a coming four year old, is 14.2 and a more refined type Fjord.  She 
was awarded a blue ribbon in confirmation at an NFHR evaluation when she was 
two years old.  I started her under saddle last spring and after three months 
took her to a well attended local hunter show where she placed (2nd and 4th) 
in two of her three classes.  I might add that it was a first ever show for 
both of us.  She has been trail ridden extensively in many situations this 
last year and has learned to handle herself very well.  I started 
occasionally foxhunting her this last fall.  We just hilltop for now but she 
has no difficulty keeping up with the other horses in the field and comments 
from fellow hunt members have been positive and plentiful.  She has also been 
introduced to draft work, both single and team, and driving.  She has 
demonstrated a very good work ethic for all; in fact, my draft horse coach 
said that as a team she and her half-sister were the best three year olds he 
had ever driven.

We feel that Asa very much resembles his sister in size, build, movement, 
temperament and will possess many of the same athletic abilities as her.

I'm sorry to have been so long-winded, but want Asa to find the best possible 
fit for life.  Inquire to 540-947-2068 or e-mail us.

Jim and Mary Harvey
Located in Virginia 1/2 hr. from the intersection of I64 and I81



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #25

2003-01-23 Thread BlkHorseAntique
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Aimee-What a wonderful poem!!  I think it was written about me, although I am 
not on social security yet, and I prefer red wine.  Loved it,  Janice in 
Nebraska



Re: Stuffed Fjord Horse

2003-01-23 Thread Stephanie Smedman

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Wow!  Thank goodness!  We were looking at the little guy last night and 
thought it was cute...but not $109.00 cute.








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Subject: Re: Stuffed Fjord Horse
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 07:19:43 EST

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$109 for a fjord stuffed toy???  Oh dear!!!

We are working on this very product - our price will be more affordable:)

Linda and Kristin
www.allthingsfjord.com



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RE: to Steve M.

2003-01-23 Thread Cynthia Madden
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For Steve & Michelle,

Steve wrote:
" Since I am not a great cookie baker, I left the
Fjord cookie cutter in New Mexico hoping that it will
encourage Cynthia to bake some scratch cookies."

Cynthia's response:

YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING!


=
Cynthia Madden
Las Cruces, NM
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Re: inbreeding coefficients

2003-01-23 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

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At 08:45 AM 1/23/2003 -0600, you wrote:

This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Janet--

Tuesday, January 21, 2003, you wrote:

> actually, it would be very helpful to have inbreeding coefficients
> available on the pedigrees of horses on the NFR website. not sure
> how difficult that would be.

  Since I've been researching this subject I've discovered that many
  pedigree software packages include the ability to make this
  calculation. Mike, does the software used by the NFHR offer an
  option to calculate COI?


No it doesn't Steve.

Mike


===

Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar
PO Box 685
Webster, NY  14580-0685

Voice 585-872-4114
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Horse mini-expo

2003-01-23 Thread bolinsj

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HI,
   I was just asked to showcase one of our Fjords at a local breed expo 
in DE.  Unfortunately, John and I have a previous engagement.  The date 
is this Saturday, so short fuse.
   This is just a very small, laid back presentation by Ed Banning at 
TheCarriage Place in Bridgeville DE.  He expects 40 breeds but was 
really hoping to get a Fjord.  I do not really know what will be 
expected - just an inhand presentation or some riding/driving demo.
   If anyone is in this area and would like more info, you can contact 
me or phone Ed directly at 302-628-0100.  The presentation is being 
given to the local Delaware Equine Council and invitees.  
   Again, this is only a small private affair, but they would dearly 
love to see a Fjord.  I wish we were available, but unfortunately


thanks,
Martie in MD



Re: inbreeding coefficients

2003-01-23 Thread Steve McIlree
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Janet--

Tuesday, January 21, 2003, you wrote:

> actually, it would be very helpful to have inbreeding coefficients
> available on the pedigrees of horses on the NFR website. not sure
> how difficult that would be.

  Since I've been researching this subject I've discovered that many
  pedigree software packages include the ability to make this
  calculation. Mike, does the software used by the NFHR offer an
  option to calculate COI?

 --
Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA
 Have you driven a Fjord, lately?



MN Horse Expo - Trainers!!

2003-01-23 Thread HorseLotti
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Hi Listers; 

Kristin and I are working on some ideas for the horse expo.  We want to 
provide a list of trainers in the MN, WI, ND, SD, IA areas who either have 
worked with fjords or you feel would enjoy working with fjords.   This 
information is  important to new fjord owners to help them get off to a good 
start with their new friend.

If you know of anyone please, please send me their name.  I will contact them 
before we put them on our list.

We will also share the list of names on the fjordlist :)

REMINDER:to get working on your the farm ads, stallion ads, for sale 
horses ad for the horse expo..one page, 50 copies, send to me.  Please 
put a photo on the page - so much more interesting to the public:)  

Linda in MN - burrr



Re: Stuffed Fjord Horse

2003-01-23 Thread HorseLotti
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$109 for a fjord stuffed toy???  Oh dear!!!

We are working on this very product - our price will be more affordable:)

Linda and Kristin
www.allthingsfjord.com



Re: Poem - Linda Schleef

2003-01-23 Thread HapDayBMF
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Hi Linda,
Glad the poem brought you out of lurking :)   Wish I could take the credit 
for writing it too :)  I just hope my old bones will hold up for the ride 
across the meadow...if they do I'll figure out a way to get on :)
Take Care,
Aimee



Norway Stallion Eval dates

2003-01-23 Thread Knutsen Fjord Farm
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The young stock show in Forde is on Saturday, the 26th of April [that's
"ah-preel..."]. The stallion evaluation in Nordfjordeid is May 1 - 3. This
is from Oda Meunch-Bronk of Switzerland, and Linda and Halgeir Vie of Forde
[that's "fur-duh..."], Norway.

Hope to go and to see you all there!
Peg

Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA
http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/