Re: About Norweigian Horse Cookie Cutters
This message is from: bolinsj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have some little horse cookie cutters that could be Fjordish. You'd have to decorate them to look really like Fjords. They are small though. I can send a picture privately if anyone wants. I'm sure if someone has a pattern, they could be made. Martie in MD Stephanie Smedman wrote: This message is from: "Stephanie Smedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have seen custom cookie cutters at Renaissance Faire. I bet they could make a fjord.
Re: Horse mini-expo
This message is from: bolinsj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Know exactly what you mean about short notice. We only got the request the same day I sent the email and unfortunately already had a committment. We'd have loved to take kilar. Its gotta be COLD doing those lessons! Our ground is so frozen into lumps and divets that the horses can hardly walk without tripping in the ring. We don't have sand or anything like that - it gets muddy, the horses cut it up, it freezes.. Keep WARM! Martie in MD - wish we at least had some pretty snow to go with the freezing temps! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marti I would have loved to do it but can't on the short notice. And right now Sat. is a big lesson days until spring when all lessons go back to during the week. Of course as cold as it is that might not have been a problem. Please do not hesitate to ask me again in the future. Robyn in frozen MD too
Re: About Norweigian Horse Cookie Cutters
This message is from: "Stephanie Smedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have seen custom cookie cutters at Renaissance Faire. I bet they could make a fjord. From: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: FH-L Subject: About Norweigian Horse Cookie Cutters Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:42:44 -0800 (PST) This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For Sue: I'll make you a deal. I'll provide the cookie cutter, space, baking utensils, oven, etc. You provide the cookie dough! For Michelle: I've had inquiries about where to get a NF-like cookie cutter. Can you share the information on the list? = Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Horse mini-expo
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marti I would have loved to do it but can't on the short notice. And right now Sat. is a big lesson days until spring when all lessons go back to during the week. Of course as cold as it is that might not have been a problem. Please do not hesitate to ask me again in the future. Robyn in frozen MD too
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #26
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/24/03 12:15:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Suddenly a thought occurred to me. I touched his shoulder and said, "Tag" and stepped back a step. His eyes lit up and he stumbled toward me. I tagged him again and ran back a few steps. Steadily he began to "chase" me around the arena. >> Janice: Your story truly brought tears to my eyes. I'm sure glad Blackie found his way back to you! MJ
Re: Hot Wire
This message is from: "Monica Spencer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Les D said: > I am put in a new hot wire system on my pasture. I would like to get advise > on the spacing of the posts. I am mainly going to be using steel tee posts. > We will be using the tape type hot wire. About 10 acre fields and need to > keep the horses out of some areas. For this sort of application where presumably your perimeter fences are sound, you can space the posts pretty far apart - 10 or 12 feet - if your horses are good with the electric fence and if it's very visible. If you're going to use tee posts, be sure to cap them for safety (you can buy plastic caps for them that also act as insulators for the hotwire). I've known two horses who "staked" themselves on tee posts - one died, the other survived although the vet didn't think he would. Monica in Nelson, BC
Re: Identifying & Saving the REALLY GOOD stallion prospects -
This message is from: "Arthur Rivoire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Everyone from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - Almost four years ago, we had a colt born at BDF. He looked very special to me from the moment of birth, and my opinion never changed. He was BDF Quasar (Gjest x Holly- a Solar daughter). As has been mentioned before on this List by myself and others -- I firmly believe that the REALLY GOOD Fjordhorses can be identified at 3 Days, 3 Weeks & 3 Years. -- Quasar was one of the good ones. I was sure of it! Still am! Well, I knew that we weren't ready to replace Gjest as a breeding stallion, and therefore wouldn't keep Quasar for ourselves, so I advertised him as an outstanding prospect. -- There was very little response. At the time, I found that astounding and still do. -- Afterall, I'm supposed to have an excellent reputation for quality horses and a certain experience judging good horses. -- If I get all excited about a certain horse and propose him as a serious breeding prospect, you'd think at least some of the people who are in fact breeding Fjords, would have an interest in acquiring such a well-bred, highly recommended stallion prospect. --- But, no! It doesn't seem to work that way with American Fjrod breeders. So, I wonder why . . . . . And the only answer I can come up with is that there are only a very few truly serious breeders in America, despite the fact that the NFHR lists 111Fjord farms in the back of the Herald. -- I'm not writing this to wallow in disappointment, cry over spilled milk, etc., etc. --- I'm writing this to say HEY! How many really good colts get gelded because we have no system in place to identify the special ones? How many? I really think this is a serious subject that could stand some consideration. Frankly, I think there are probably quite a few excellent colts being gelded, and sadly, at the same time, far too many poor quality colts growing up intact and eventually being used to breed. Whenever I look at BDF Quasar, I'm thrilled by the look and quality of him, and I'm thrilled to own him and have the priviledge of training and using him. But, at the same time, I think how sad that his unusually good qualities never got used for the improvement of the breed. First of all, he's the son and grandson of GJEST & SOLAR, two old-time, unquestionably fabulous stallions. -- Secondly, despite the fact that America was lucky enough to have these two great stallions over here, and despite the fact that some of the most knowledgeable men in the Fjord world advised combining the two lines . . . . there is no Gjest/Solar son standing at stud. -- That's a shame. So, what's so special about BDF Quasar? He's very tall and big-boned. You could almost say draft-type. Probably would say drafty. But, if you describing him on paper without seeing him in the flesh or on video, you'd have to quickly say that the horse is a phenomenal mover with incredible suspension, action, rhythm, regularity. He's got it all. He has what it takes to be a good dressage horse -- And, to top it all off The horse has SOUL! There's a look in his eyes that's so attractive and appealing and deep. Quasar also has the most incredibly good temperament, attitude, and work ethic. He's only 3 1/2 years old, and already he's a lovely driving and riding horse. All these things make him the outstanding horse he is, and I can't help but think it's a shame he can't pass on his special qualities. I am a breeder! And while I love a good gelding, I believe above all that the best male horses should be identified early, and somehow saved for breeding, and it's a real loss to American Fjord breeding that some are lost to the gene pool. Maybe it's a question of education. -- Maybe there is a way that these very young colts could be identified in sort of a 'preliminary way'. --- I know this is a difficult problem for owners. Often times they think they've got a very good colt, but need confirmation before making plans to geld. And the thing is that the time for gelding comes awfully fast, and owners tend to act fast when that colt starts to feel his hormones. -- Some owners have a wonderful colt and don't know it, and so he's gelded. Other countries dont' have this problem as the colts are judged early, thereby enabling the owners to make informed decisions in a timely manner. You see, in Europe, at least in Holland, most of the weanlings (age 3 or 4 months) are judged at an Evaluation (Keuring). The owner knows right away if he shoud be thinking stallion. If his colt is judged "B" or "C" quality, then he knows immediately to geld. If the colt is judged "A" quality, then the owner might decide to postpone gelding. --- But, if the colt is judged "AA" quality, then there's a strong liklihood that the colt is a stallion prospect. -- They have what we don't have. They have a knowledgeable Fjord judge advising them as to the future of their
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #26
This message is from: "Tekin Family" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wow what a story Janice that was a great and wonderful thing you did for Blackie Linda - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #26 > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I have a great horse memory story for you. When I was in college my mother > bought me a Quarter Horse yearling gelding, he was a grey, but of course as a > yearling was almost black. So I called him Blackie. > > When Blackie was 2 years old he had purpura hemorraghica and almost died. > For weeks I went to the barn before and after school, to wrap his legs, hand > feed him and encourage him to live. Blackie and I became very close friends. > It was so difficult and painful for him to move after the skin sloughed off > his legs that we developed a game to try to make him move. I would touch him > and back up a step and love him up when he moved toward me. He got better > and better at the tag game until finally we could go to the arena and play > tag day after day as he improved. After a while, I could race, double back, > stop on a dime and Blackie was right there with me. He knew the "game." > Well, Blackie recovered after a long while, and eventually went on to become > a very well-known team roping horse. He went to the World Show and was 5th, > had scads of points and was an all-around great guy. > > Unfortuately when Blackie was about 17, I got divorced from my horse trainer > husband. I could not take Blackie with me, I had two small children, a > business to move etc. So Blackie stayed on the farm with my ex-husband. He > continued to teach beginners to rope and when he was in his mid-twenties he > went to live at a cattleman friend of the family. Now I am sure this man did > not intend to abuse Blackie, but his molars were gone, he had to fight cattle > for food and became extremely thin. My ex got him back and was sick at heart > that Blackie had gotten in such bad shape, and frankly thought he was going > to die. I had gotten a horse of my own since the divorce, and my ex asked if > I would like to take Blackie. I jumped at the chance. > > A few days later he was delivered to the boarding barn I was at. The barn > manager met me at the door and said "Don't get your hopes up, he doesn't look > good, I am not sure he is going to make it." I cried when I saw him. > Normally around 1150 lbs. he could not have weighed 800 lbs. He looked like > skin draped over a skeleton. > > We changed his feed, worked on his teeth, wormed and rewormed him and after a > day or two he was less wobbly. I took him into the arena to try to encourage > him to walk. But all he would do was stand with his head down and a glazed > look in his eye. Suddenly a thought occurred to me. I touched his shoulder > and said, "Tag" and stepped back a step. His eyes lit up and he stumbled > toward me. I tagged him again and ran back a few steps. Steadily he began > to "chase" me around the arena. I would stop and hug him and let him rest, > and then he would be ready to play again. Blackie and I played tag every day > after that. Over the next months he gained 250 lbs. He eventually felt > good enough that I could ride him. Our veterinarian said giving him a > purpose in life was the best thing I could do for him. Blackie lived to be > 31, he died one year ago. It had been 26 years from the time we played tag > when he was a sick 2 yr old. till the time we played when he was a sick 28 > yr old. But there is no question in my mind or the mind of the others who > watched us that he remembered the "game." > > Janice Lee > Little Farm Fjords > Valley, Nebraska
Re: About Norweigian Horse Cookie Cutters
This message is from: "Tekin Family" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I want one too I love making cookies Would be even better in a fjord shape Linda - Original Message - From: "Cynthia Madden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FH-L" Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: About Norweigian Horse Cookie Cutters > This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For Sue: > I'll make you a deal. I'll provide the cookie cutter, > space, baking utensils, oven, etc. You provide the > cookie dough! > > For Michelle: > I've had inquiries about where to get a NF-like cookie > cutter. Can you share the information on the list? > > = > Cynthia Madden > Las Cruces, NM > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MN Horse Expo - Trainers!!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, DeeAnna.this "trainer" list will prove very valuable to expo people and the list in general. I often feel a situtation like yours is not uncommon.working with a trainer is a delicate dance .. so having information on trainers that actually enjoy working with fjords is a start in the right direction. Best to you and your fjords; Linda
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #26
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have a great horse memory story for you. > When Blackie was 2 years old he had purpura hemorraghica and almost died. > For weeks I went to the barn before and after school, to wrap his legs, hand > feed him and encourage him to live. Blackie and I became very close friends. JANICE! That is such a beautiful story! I really appreciate you sharing that THANKS very much! Best from Ruthie, nw mt
Re: Stuffed Fjord Horse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... but not $109 cute ..." Yeah, I agree -- at that price, it's way outta my league. But I think I'd be seriously tempted if it was less spendy! DeeAnna
Re: MN Horse Expo - Trainers!!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My enthusiastic recommendation is: Jill Niederberger Pine River Ranch W3078 County Road A Pine River WI 54965 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 920-867-4556 After years (yes, years!!) of getting no call backs from the local trainers in northeast Iowa and getting discouraging words from trainers who don't think horses over 2 years old can learn anything, we were about to give up. I got the distinct impression that if it wasn't a Paint, Arab or Quarter Horse baby, local trainers just weren't going to bother. We ~~finally~~ got Jill's name in early 2002 from another Fjord owner as someone who actually likes working with Fjords and would accept older horses. We trailered Finn (age 5) and Toupen (age 12) to her place this past summer, and they spent 2 months with her learning to be riding horses. She is fiftysomething, although you'd never know it -- so she's got a lot of experience and common sense. She uses a blend of natural horsemanship techniques -- whatever she needs to communicate with a particular horse -- and wants very much to work with the owners in the training process. Toupen had some "issues" that she found challenging, but she did very well in figuring out what was going on and working with him appropriately. For instance, how do you train an experienced, older driving horse to work comfortably in an open bridle and tolerate seeing a rider and other things moving behind him? How do you get him to accept working alone, when he always worked in a team? She "dun gut" with him. We live about 5 hours away, but I made weekly trips at first, then bi-weekly trips to work with her and the boys. I learned a lot and so did our Fjords. It was worth every penny and all the hours of driving! DeeAnna
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #26
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a great horse memory story for you. When I was in college my mother bought me a Quarter Horse yearling gelding, he was a grey, but of course as a yearling was almost black. So I called him Blackie. When Blackie was 2 years old he had purpura hemorraghica and almost died. For weeks I went to the barn before and after school, to wrap his legs, hand feed him and encourage him to live. Blackie and I became very close friends. It was so difficult and painful for him to move after the skin sloughed off his legs that we developed a game to try to make him move. I would touch him and back up a step and love him up when he moved toward me. He got better and better at the tag game until finally we could go to the arena and play tag day after day as he improved. After a while, I could race, double back, stop on a dime and Blackie was right there with me. He knew the "game." Well, Blackie recovered after a long while, and eventually went on to become a very well-known team roping horse. He went to the World Show and was 5th, had scads of points and was an all-around great guy. Unfortuately when Blackie was about 17, I got divorced from my horse trainer husband. I could not take Blackie with me, I had two small children, a business to move etc. So Blackie stayed on the farm with my ex-husband. He continued to teach beginners to rope and when he was in his mid-twenties he went to live at a cattleman friend of the family. Now I am sure this man did not intend to abuse Blackie, but his molars were gone, he had to fight cattle for food and became extremely thin. My ex got him back and was sick at heart that Blackie had gotten in such bad shape, and frankly thought he was going to die. I had gotten a horse of my own since the divorce, and my ex asked if I would like to take Blackie. I jumped at the chance. A few days later he was delivered to the boarding barn I was at. The barn manager met me at the door and said "Don't get your hopes up, he doesn't look good, I am not sure he is going to make it." I cried when I saw him. Normally around 1150 lbs. he could not have weighed 800 lbs. He looked like skin draped over a skeleton. We changed his feed, worked on his teeth, wormed and rewormed him and after a day or two he was less wobbly. I took him into the arena to try to encourage him to walk. But all he would do was stand with his head down and a glazed look in his eye. Suddenly a thought occurred to me. I touched his shoulder and said, "Tag" and stepped back a step. His eyes lit up and he stumbled toward me. I tagged him again and ran back a few steps. Steadily he began to "chase" me around the arena. I would stop and hug him and let him rest, and then he would be ready to play again. Blackie and I played tag every day after that. Over the next months he gained 250 lbs. He eventually felt good enough that I could ride him. Our veterinarian said giving him a purpose in life was the best thing I could do for him. Blackie lived to be 31, he died one year ago. It had been 26 years from the time we played tag when he was a sick 2 yr old. till the time we played when he was a sick 28 yr old. But there is no question in my mind or the mind of the others who watched us that he remembered the "game." Janice Lee Little Farm Fjords Valley, Nebraska
RE: Evening of Dancing Horses
This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Way to go, Beth & Sandy, et. al. That's how to promote Fjords. I wish I could go see them one year. It seems they get better and better every year. Of course, with Beth in charge how can they not! When's the movie coming out! = Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
About Norweigian Horse Cookie Cutters
This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For Sue: I'll make you a deal. I'll provide the cookie cutter, space, baking utensils, oven, etc. You provide the cookie dough! For Michelle: I've had inquiries about where to get a NF-like cookie cutter. Can you share the information on the list? = Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: evening of dancing horses
This message is from: "sandra church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "kicked myself for not bringing a video camera" Does anyone know if Beth had a video tape made of the performance? Was a professional tape made that the general public can buy? Two friends of mine performed with their warmbloods at a similar performance (musical kurs) in Raleigh, NC last fall & I wanted to buy a video of that but they were only available for the actual participants since The Lion King music is "protected' or whatever the legal term is. I would love to buy a tape of the fjords' performance. I've enjoyed watching the tape that was done 2(?) years ago. Sandra in Va. MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*.
Re[2]: inbreeding coefficients
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lois-- Wednesday, January 22, 2003, you wrote: > The Friesian pedigrees are so noted with inbreeding coefficients. > Perhaps they have a good software program to lend?? I've got a line on software being used by the Fell Pony folks. The guy who developed it has offered to give me a copy. When I get it we'll have to see how much hassle it would be to convert NFHR pedigree data for input to this program. I'll keep you all posted. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle. --Winston Churchill
fjord cookie cutter??
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, call me a natural blonde..but I think I missed something somewhere.. WHAT Fjord shaped cookie cutter??!?!!??! I WANT ONE!!! I ONLY make cookies from scratch Sometimes I will even beat them by HAND! Where do I find one? Carole Sweet Modesto, CA
