Re: Grazing Muzzles
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linda re the muzzle rubbing, if it is wire or metal made you can bend it to conform to the horses face. Jean G Author "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 46-49 Send $20 to: PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Grazing Muzzles
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried the muzzle made of wire coated with plastic. It rubbed on the underside of Sven's throatlatch...made an open sore. I like the "best friend" better. Linda in MN
Grazing Muzzles
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you do a google search you should be able to find the "Best Friends Grazing Muzzle." I use the more expensive "built-in" halter versionwhich I regretted when one of the muzzles was eaten thru VERY quickly. However, the quality seems to have improved since then. I like the "built-in" breakaway halters better than the type you put on your own halter as I have had experience with the muzzle catching on a watertrough filler. The breakaway broke nicelywhich I am not sure would have happened with an ordinary break-away halter. I like the Best Friends best because it is designed not to abraid the horse's nose. The metal basket type look like they would do damage. Also...there are some things in the archives about "built it yourself" muzzles made out of hoof pads that you might want to look up. Hope that helps. Gail
archives
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Online archives for the FjordHorse List are available at http://www.eScribe.com/pets/fjordhorse/. The user name is "fjordhorse" and the password is "fjords_rule". At this Web site you can access everything that has been discussed on the list since its inception in March, 1998. Copied from Steve Mcilree's message on 11/04/2001 Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, cloudly with sprinkles..too wet from last night's downpour to do yard work! (Nap time) Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
archives and questions
This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have tried many times to get into the archives with no success. I must admit I am computer stupid. It isn't friendly for those of us that are challenged. I will just have to have my kid help me if I really need to go their. I do think it should be put to the list every now and than since I also have "sometimers", meaning that I forget they are available. Repeat questions give us all an opportunity to discuss the new stuff we have learned, and learn new perspectives on the old subject. We all have the opportunity to hit delete when the subject is over used in our opinion or just not interested. I admit I do hit delete on occasion and I would bet that I am not the only one. Just some thought, Roberta
RE: Sher's Fjord and saddle fit....& archieves
This message is from: "Teressa Kandianis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Speaking of archives. Can someone give me the directions again. I am needing a grazing muzzle and sources for them were identified a few weeks ago. Teressa
Re: Sher's Fjord and saddle fit....& archieves
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I think letting someone know that there are archieves for the digest that can be searched is great, but to suggest that since a question has been asked before that someone should not ask questions, but rather search the archieves, > is doing that person as well as the rest of us a disservice. ... yes, she can go to the archieves but she should be able to get input from us on her questions and not be made to feel like she should go to the > archieves before asking here.> Jeanne +++ Well-well a "disservice!?" I-did-not-suggest that Sher not ask a question! I'm surprised that your take on my suggestion of the archives would be negative, which certainly did not in any way preclude the voluntary suggestions on saddles from others! I felt that her question INSPIRED me to think of having a FAQ! If I were a first time Lister I would love to know about the archives! I would love a FAQ feature too! I've noticed that in the summertime folks don't always have the time to respond to every individual inquiry in detail, and far better for them to receive canned material than none! A FAQ page could contain many ready links available for research, where a quick comment might not. You want to engender increased list participation? You can... we could probably see a marked increase in List participation if we could only eliminate critical supposition comments on contributing writers, like yours. Ruthie, nw mt
Re: Sher's Fjord and saddle fit....& archieves
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remember," There is no foolish question asked on this list " Only a fool would not ask a question. We gain our knowledge from others. Sometimes it fits us and sometimes not. Welcome all the new owners of the wonderful Fjords. Maybe if need be ask one question at a time . Then if one Knows the answer can chat about it off the list. I for one like to see the repeated questions as we learn something new in the answers, as we gain new people to this list . OMHO Tillie Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
Re: Oregon Gold BRAG
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/19/2004 8:30:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lupin has been for sale for a long time due to our farm not being able to use this mare to her full potential. Catherine, what is the asking price for Lupin? I am doing my damnedest to promote Fjords here in CA. There are not many in the state, and most are overpriced due to our insane economy. After watching Lupin perform at OG, I would highly recommend her as a "made" horse. I am putting up flyers at my barn for Prins & Inga, the Evers fabulous youngsters. Would be nice to have a well trained riding and driving horse to advertise as well. / )_~ /L/L Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA www.Brigid.Clickryder.com
Oregon Gold BRAG
This message is from: "Catherine lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey... I have to brag a little... First the competition was great. Everyone has improved so much it is fun to see how wonderful the Fjords are getting and that we are kicking some OPEN Show horses butts. My brag is on our mare LUPIN. She is 9 years old and is a gem. Resa Burgess, 15 year old rider took her in all the halter and riding classes on Saturday and won every Fjord class. (not halter) Resa won the youth high point but would have won the Fjord Horse High Point, if it were open to youth. :-) They teamed up well and had a good time. On Saturday, I was honored to see that Lupin still had some energy for driving. We won the Fjord Pleasure Driving, Placed 2nd in the OPEN Pleasure against a Morgan Stallion, won the Ladies to Drive and placed 3rd in Cones. I stopped there for I was tired and Lupin had a rub mark starting where the shafts were hitting her. Lupin performed 9.5 months pregnant. She would have gone all day, but I called it quits. Lupin has been for sale for a long time due to our farm not being able to use this mare to her full potential. She is a performance mare all the way. She loves her shows and she loves to win. She just proved to me again why she is the BEST in our books and WHY she needs to go to a performance home. She also proved to me her worth. I had a long talk with the owner of her Dam. A mare I am s sorry we sold due to CPA suggestions. (NEVER AGAIN WILL I LISTEN TO A CPA) (ahha) her Dam, Serina... is winning at OPEN SHOWS for youth and children every weekend. I encouraged the owner to sign Sernia up for the Versatility Award and the Award of Excellence. BTW... I think LUPIN finally made the requirements to reach the one award... (Yipee) Anyway... I congratulate all the winners and Fjord Owners that came to Prineville and performed. They all were good and they all proved to the community of Prineville that this breed can compete in OPEN SHOWS. There was a mare there for sale from Linda Bedzek's farm. She was excellent. Great Dressage movement and manners. I am sure this mare will sell quickly. The price on this mare is $6500.00. I steal in my view. The mare has talent. There are good Fjords out there... 50 % of them mares... :-) See ya, Catherine Lassesen HESTEHAVEN Southern Oregon In the rain...
Sher's Fjord and saddle fit....& archieves
This message is from: "Jeanne Zuker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Congratulations on getting your first Fjord, I have had Olaf for 2 yrs now and I still cannot believe it sometimes when I look out and see him "chowing" on his hay or the grass. I had to wait from March until August in "02 for him to get my place ready for him. You will love your Loki and he you. I have both an English saddle and a western saddle. I got the Wintec Isbell with the CAIR system, I have the wide gullet system in it and it fits Olaf great. The seat is full suede so I stick to it like glue and it has the added rolls in the front (which can be removed) so my legs stay in position. I got my Crates western saddle last fall, it has full quarterhorse tree and the short skirt so it fits Olaf's shorter back, it doesn't rub on his shoulders or back and it fits him wonderfully. I had to have the stirrups shortened to fit my short legs but the saddle as a whole fits Olaf and me to a "T". I really love this saddle, I plan on doing trail riding for the most part, it does have some silver on it, so you could use it in shows, but you might want to add silver on it if you are getting a show saddle. I know anything with full skirt would not fit Olaf and would rub on him. I hope this helps. I have heard that some of the "treeless" saddles are great for the Fjords since they flex to the wider backs and are comfy for the rider as well but I have no first hand experience with them. The one thing that I was guilty of was putting the saddle too far forward, I did this more with the western saddle then the English but now I have got the position down. One more thing, please get yourself a helmet if you have not already done do, some of the new ones have added vents for better cooling, but alas, you will still have helmet hair.lol. I think letting someone know that there are archieves for the digest that can be searched is great, but to suggest that since a question has been asked before that someone should not ask questions, but rather search the archieves, is doing that person as well as the rest of us a disservice. We all learn by the exchange of ideas and what has worked and not worked for some of us. Sher came here excited about her first Fjord Loki and asked a question about saddles, yes, she can go to the archieves but she should be able to get input from us on her questions and not be made to feel like she should go to the archieves before asking here. I love reading what people are riding in and how they decided on the saddle they got and how it fits their horse and them, as well as some mistakes they made that might save me from the same mistake. JMHO but I think the digest is for information and questions, answers and the exchange of ideas and I hope that does not change. Jeanne and Olaf in MI where today is sunny :>) but cooler, perfect to get Olaf out for a ride, yippee!!!
RE: Please delete unnecessary text when replying!Puleeese!
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Amen to your suggestion Deanna...I posted about this in the past, as have several folks over time; apparently it bears repeating. Sure makes it easier if you want to read the List but have limited time. Allows one to really focus on the subject. Cheerio! Kmac PS: If someone would rather not ask questions about how to do this on List, or would want to send a "trial" edited message, contact me privately & I'll be glad to help Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Security.
Re: Saddle fit?
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, thanks for mentioning this, as I too used to be guilty of this when I rode non-fjordies (in my dark non-fjord past!) This is just a cautionary tale, and mostly refers to treeless saddlesRecently, I leased my Trakehner Tomas, to a really nice young woman who just moved out here from Vermont. She rides dressage w/ and Ansur saddle (treeless). When she rode him in the arena and asked him for a trot, he became very cranky, so I climbed aboard to see what the problem was. Well, the saddle was too far forward, and it was right over his wither, actually cranked down over his wither, by virtue of the way the treeless system works. As soon as I lifted it up and asked for a trot, it was ears forward. She is going to get a full cutback pad, and we'll see where he is with that, as i am still a bit dubious, as there are no panels to help establish a base @ each side of the spine to elevate the pommel over the wither. So, gentle readers, please take care that you have good clearance over the withers as well. Kmac Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Original Message Follows From: Jean Ernest One thing I've noticed (and I did it myself at first) is that many folks tend to put the saddles too far forward on their Fjords, maybe because of the lack of obvious withers. Best Restaurant Giveaway Ever! Vote for your favorites for a chance to win $1 million!
Re: Saddle fit?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/19/2004 6:33:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is just a cautionary tale, and mostly refers to treeless saddles Hi Karen- As a treeless fan, I have to chime in here. Using treeless saddles has taught me the importance of proper padding. With my Bob Marshall western saddle I use the Skito pad, which is shaped to the horse's back (not just a square lump like the typical western pad) and raises the saddle off the spine. After rides with this setup the sweat marks are perfect, uniform everywhere except the spine which is dry. I had the opportunity to ride in an Ansur saddle and loved it. They aren't much to look at, but they are functional and comfortable. It was a short ride, so I didn't get a chance to examine sweat marks afterwards. The horse is a Friesian, just as hard to fit as a Fjord. Right now the owner just uses a quilted dressage type pad, but I think she'll need to upgrade as she rides more. For English I use the Thorowgood which is not treeless, but it's flexible and comes in many sizes (broadback extra wide for Big R)! For this I purchased a pad similar to the Skito, shaped to the horse's back with a pleat in the middle for spine clearance. You brought up another important point, proper placement. I imagine we have difficulty placing the saddle on a Fjord because of its short back. By trying to clear the loins, we end up with the saddle on top of the shoulders. I see this in other breeds, too, however. This is equally damaging with or without a tree. I have seen horses ridden in ill-fitting treed saddles with enormous dents on either side of the wither. Just horrid. Eventually the dents stop filling in as the muscle atrophies and the horse "develops withers" as they say. / )_~ /L/L Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA www.Brigid.Clickryder.com
RE: Dressage Horse - Stunningly Beautiful
This message is from: Dolph Courchaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carol wrote... -- just had to share more about the gorgeous gelding we just got in - Representing a horse of this quality, (and kindness), I might add, is a real priviledge. -- Carol this is the 2nd time you have mentioned this horse and both times I wondered what the breeding was. Can you fill us in on who the proud papa and mama are of this $25,000 Fjord? Also just an FYI for the list: www.fjordworld.com is offline for a short time while I move it to another cheaper web hosting service. So if you click on it during the next few weeks the site may not be there at all or partially there. Be patient and try again in a few weeks. thanks Dolph Courchaine www.fjordworld.com Legal Notice Electronic Mail is not secure, may not be read every day, and should not be used for urgent or sensitive issues. The material in this transmission may contain confidential information intended for the addressee. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure or use of this information by you is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it and destroy all copies
Re: sher
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/19/04 8:48:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I am counting the days to June 8th - and *trying* to be patient (hah!) > Been > a long time in coming (4+ years!) now he's so close to being home, I can > taste > it! (big grin) > > Sher in CO > hi, i just got a fjord and he arrived two weeks ago. i had to wait 6 weeks after i bought him to bring him home, so i know just what you are going through.you will love him! and as for questions, this is certainly the best place i know to ask. enjoy. laurie with central minnesota
Re: Saddles for Fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone : Concerning saddles that fit fjords, I have been very happy with a wide-tree Australian saddle that I bought on Ebay several years ago. Best thing is that they are inexpensive. I have seen these on Ebay with "extra-wide" trees too. I have two Orrjo daughters that are very broad and my wide-tree Australian saddle fits them well. There is one on Ebay now if anyone is interested. Judy Phelps Echo Valley Fjords Chelan,Wa.
Re: draft harness for yearling
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone : I am planning on taking my yearling colt in the yearling ground driving class at the Libby show this year. I have a question about a suitable driving harness. Should I use a full draft harness on him, with collar, hames, etc. ? Or would a training surcingle or training harness be more appropriate for a yearling ? Has anyone competed in the class before, what did you use ? I have a welsh pony harness that fits him now, but probably won't come September. How about bridles, do I need to use one with blinders or can I use an open bridle for this yearling class ? If anyone has any experience or advice (and I am sure I will get some from this group !) , I would appreciate it. Thanks. The bitterbrush is in bloom here along with the lupines and smells and looks wonderful out here !! Judy Phelps Echo Valley Fjords Chelan,WA.
hooray for lena and ardeth
This message is from: "Ed Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ardeth, Congratulations on doing so well at your first CDE -- thanks for sharing your experience with all of us -- well done -- with such a young horse, you have lots to look forward to! Warm regards, Ann S. in Connecticut
