Re: close dates
This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I only just recently joined the group putting this evaluation on, so I'm not sure what the process was for selecting those dates. But a good point is made. This is a first for this group, and even though I have heavily encouraged them to get on this list I don't think most of the organizers are using computers much. I will bring these concerns to them though and perhaps next year they can take the Libby dates into consideration while planning the one down here. Tamara On Friday, February 11, 2005, at 07:48 PM, The Mercers wrote: This message is from: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree with Lisa! Can't these things be scheduled so they aren't so close together? It makes it very difficult. Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA The dates are September 30 and October 1, 2005 Following the evaluation on October 2 will be an open horse show - have your horse evaluated and then show it too. Waa ! The dates are seeing us just back from Libby, a " must show " for us.why are the Fjord shows ( and usually evaluations always so close together ? Lisa<
RE: close dates
This message is from: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree with Lisa! Can't these things be scheduled so they aren't so close together? It makes it very difficult. Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA > The dates are September 30 and October 1, 2005 Following the > evaluation on October 2 will be an open horse show - have your horse > evaluated and then show it too. > > > Waa ! The dates are seeing us just back from Libby, a " must show " for us.why are the Fjord shows ( and usually evaluations always so close together ? Lisa<
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RE: PNFPG newsletter final notice of deadline
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kristie, Go to: http://www.pnfpg.org/ all the information and application for is there. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus 2004. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/friendlyfred98 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristie Kramer Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:49 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: PNFPG newsletter final notice of deadline This message is from: "Kristie Kramer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Ursula, I would like to join PNFPG. How do I go about this? I live NE of Stanwood and bought my Fjord mare from Krist Martinsen. Many thanks, Kristie Nielsen Kramer
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/11/2005 7:38:39 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The dates are September 30 and October 1, 2005 Following the > evaluation on October 2 will be an open horse show - have your horse > evaluated and then show it too. > > Waa ! The dates are seeing us just back from Libby, a " must show " for us.why are the Fjord shows ( and usually evaluations always so close together ? Lisa
Horse Passports - England
This message is from: "Catherine lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is taken from a newsletter I receive as a member of AATA. - Thought you all would enjoy reading the Equine News of it. HORSE PASSPORTS With one month left till horse passport regulations come fully into effect in England, nearly half a million passports have been issued already, the Government has confirmed. The total number of horses and ponies is estimated at between 600,000 and just under a million in Great Britain as a whole which indicates that compliance by horse and pony owners in England now exceeds 50% and could be as much as 80%. Under the horse passports scheme all owners must obtain a passport for each horse, pony or donkey they own. After 28 February 2005, animals without one cannot be sold, bought, exported, slaughtered for human consumption, moved to attend a competition or show, or moved to new premises for breeding. The basic purpose of the European regulations is to prevent horses entering the food chain if they have been treated with certain veterinary medicines. Representatives of the horse industry and vets have confirmed their support for the Government's approach. Rural Affairs Minister Alun Michael commented: "A key concern for Government and for the horse industry is that approval for around 60% of UK veterinary medicines could be withdrawn if the European Commission is not satisfied with compliance. Many of these are commonly used and are relied on by horse owners. Their withdrawal could have important welfare implications, so I urge those owners who have not yet applied to do so without delay. Enforcement will be proportionate and fair - for example taking into account whether an owner has applied for but not yet received a passport. Given that EU scrutiny is likely to focus on risks to public health from veterinary medicine residues in exported horses and horsemeat, enforcement in England will be focused in the first instance on key hazard points, for example slaughter houses and export points. The majority of horse owners will not have animals passing through these points, and the most important thing for them will be awareness of the legal requirements so that they can continue all their normal activities with the minimum disruption". For more information on obtaining a horse passport, including a list of Passport Issuing Organisations, visit http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/tracing/horses/horses_index.htm [ParliamentToday.com - 31 January Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - The Horse Garden Bed, Barn, Breakfast & Baskets Southern Oregon
Re: Another Fjord horse Buying question
This message is from: "Debi Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Sherry, Well seems you are describing a Fjord pretty well. yes calmer and braver...translation not prone to running away any farther than absolutely necessary, in reality a few feet and turn around and see if it was worth it!! First time I hooked my mare to something to pull she smiled and looked like she was saying "so why didn't we do this before???" They don't get born broke and seem to understand sooner than other breeds.They seem to think things over after you have shown them a new thing to do. But they do need to have everything presented calmly and in small steps. they do not like a lot thrown at them in quick succession. case in point I took my calm brave quiet 3 year old mare to a riding clinic( but actually it was only her 8th ride so not really broke just quiet enough to tolerate my attempts to teach her) She did well but after 5 hours started grinding her teeth and locking up her neck. She had had enough of do this and now do that clinic! The instructor said make her do it she's just being obstinate. she really just needed the time to think it all over and work it out in her mind. And frankly so did I!!!Looking back now I can see how much she really gave me that day!!! First trip away first time with other horses and there were 12!! It was crowded!! Asked to do things that I really didn't fully comprehend fully, if it's not clear to the trainer how can it get clear to the horse!! I was tired so why shouldn't she be!! on the second day, she did everything we practiced the day before like it had been done for years!! I left her rest when she seemed to want to just watch. did us both more good than pushing thru stuff I didn't understand. Best of luck, you sound perfect for a Fjord. Debi Williams Williams Hill Fjords
Re: buying horses
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'd never buy a horse without trying it out. Janet>> I AGREE, that's the best way, but we have sold horses by video tape to many customers that send back glowing reports of their satisfaction.. from far away places, far east and south of Montana. We provide good conformational points of view, close up focal interests, and include movement scenes without tack, both of which cannot be artificially enhanced, as a still photo can. We show the horse in every stage of performance preparation.. being caught up, being tacked, hitched, etc. ..an entire unedited outing. We cross uneven terrain, creeks, bridges, even four-wheel distrations, to demonstrate their temperament and training. We provide a health certificate on every sale, a very thorough bill-of-sale the moment that payment is cleared, and offer a money back guaranteed pedigree transfer which we pay for. Our stock is up to date West Nile Virus innoculated. These are just some of the things a prospective buyer should look for. Ruthie, nw mt US http://www.libby.org/~bushnell
Re: CONFESSION
This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> WELL Lordy me I never thought the Fjord List would go porno/smutty or whatever one wants to call it. Are we talking about our horses or others? ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List ! OK, hide the kiddies. Potential to use " adult words " here. I have a confession. Well.WE have one. While its hard to speak about such a delicate area and subject, we feel that with the timing of the list thread being random white ( big shudder ) there needs to be taking of some responsibility. Here go's. ( deep breath ) We have a pink penis. WHEW..that feels good to get it out. Not the penis, but the disclosure ! I must add, its not really pink. Its sort of neon, beachware pink. Not all of it ( the penis ) is pink, one lucky guy, PF Valjo. His penis is black, but thats not why she kept him " intact". People dont start singing Beach Boys tunes when HE pees ! -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
Re: ebay Fjord horse item
This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tamara Rousso wrote: This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My daughter found these cute Fjord horse key chains on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7126518463&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1 Tamara Happily owned by Harrison Fjord in Fallbrook CA Take a look at the solid brass key chains that may be there. They are really nice and I use mine as a neckless and have received many compliments for it. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
This is just too funny, had to share
This message is from: Steve Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb? So, how many does it take? 1 to change the light bulb 1 to post that the light bulb has been changed 14 to share their similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs 53 to get "snarky" with the spell checkers 41 to correct those that got snarky over spelling/grammar 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp" 15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct 156 to email the hosts and moderators complaining that those participating are in violation of the forum rules 109 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum 203 to demand that "X-posting" to the hardware forum, electricity forum, and lightbulb forum about changing light bulbs be stopped 111 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are faulty 27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs 14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's 3 to post about links they found from the URL's which make light bulbs relevant to this group 33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too" 12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy 19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "Me three" 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ 44 to ask what is a "FAQ" 4 to say "didn't we JUST go through all this a few weeks ago?" 143 to say "Google on 'light bulbs' before posting questions about light bulbs" 1 new forum member to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again
Re: PNFPG newsletter final notice of deadline
This message is from: "Kristie Kramer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Ursula, I would like to join PNFPG. How do I go about this? I live NE of Stanwood and bought my Fjord mare from Krist Martinsen. Many thanks, Kristie Nielsen Kramer - Original Message - From: "Ursula & Brian Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "fjordlist" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 8:09 AM Subject: PNFPG newsletter final notice of deadline This message is from: "Ursula & Brian Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is to let Pacific Northwest Fjord Promotional Group (PNFPG) members know that we have moved the deadline for the Spring (and Stallion) Issue forward to Feb 28This issue will especially feature stallions of the Pacific Northwest. The response has been great and I have had to increase the publication to 14 pages. I will have this issue ready for the printer and out by mid- March in time for the spring meeting in Moses Lake on April 9. Any additional ads or those of you who have indicated your intent to be included should get off the proverbial 'hiney' and get your ads in to me NOW. I will not be sending out any more reminders after this. The rates are cheap: $30 for a full page and $20 for half page. Either of these choices will give the western stallion owner an additional 'feature' so this is a good deal. Contact me for details. Ursula Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC, V0E 2G0 Canada 250-547-6303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/
Polo For Sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I've advertised (albeit halfheartedly) once before on this list, and now (with the same mixed emotions) have put Polaris up for sale at Dreamhorse. If he doesn't sell soon, well, I'll just have to bite the bullet and keep him. :) He's a sweet and athletic colt. Very easy to be around, loves people and loves attention. He should be an easy one to train as he really wants to please. So if any of you are interested, let me know soon. As soon as I give up trying to sell him, he'll be gelded. I really don't need a stallion and all my mares are related to him anyway! He's reasonably priced, and he could do just about anything you put your mind training him to do, IMO. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
PNFPG newsletter final notice of deadline
This message is from: "Ursula & Brian Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is to let Pacific Northwest Fjord Promotional Group (PNFPG) members know that we have moved the deadline for the Spring (and Stallion) Issue forward to Feb 28This issue will especially feature stallions of the Pacific Northwest. The response has been great and I have had to increase the publication to 14 pages. I will have this issue ready for the printer and out by mid- March in time for the spring meeting in Moses Lake on April 9. Any additional ads or those of you who have indicated your intent to be included should get off the proverbial 'hiney' and get your ads in to me NOW. I will not be sending out any more reminders after this. The rates are cheap: $30 for a full page and $20 for half page. Either of these choices will give the western stallion owner an additional 'feature' so this is a good deal. Contact me for details. Ursula Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC, V0E 2G0 Canada 250-547-6303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/
RE: Another Fjord horse Buying question
This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You might first consider a comparison of the number of Fjords in the NW in comparison to QH's and Appys. They are much less in number throughout the country and so often more expensive. Expense being relative to the temperament, training, etc. of a horse. Plus they are worth every penny in temperament and pleasure to own (mostly). Another thing, is that you can never judge a breed rridden on a "dude" ride. Rent horses are almost always rotten. Wouldn't you be stubborn or mulish or perhaps, "self-protective" when ridden constantly by people who hurt your mouth, hurt your back and generally abuse you. Any horse will develop behavioral issues after this kind of treatment. Fjords are generally very smart and don't put up well with continued abuse. I would visit some of the excellent breeders in the NW and try some well trained Fjords out for size. I think you will be impressed and maybe reconsider the cost. If you continue on this list, you may hear about a horse that is looking for a good home, suits your needs and is within your budget. Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/cmadden88011 Zia Carriage Driving Club: http://www.geocities.com/zcdc_nm
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #36
This message is from: "janet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Packing This message is from: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do any of you folks do packing? I'm interested in purchasing a set-up but not sure if I want the full pack set-up or over the saddle setup. I'd only be out for a couple days at a time. Help! Taffy Hi Taffy, We've done a couple of packing trips. I don't know what your budget is like, but ours is tight. We opted to learn how to use ropes and used the basket hitch on our saddles, wrapping our goods in a manty. We led the horses in loaded, rode them around in the back country, then led them out loaded with elk. the advantage to the manty approach, is several. One is it allowed various sizes and shapes to be packed, such as the elk quarters which would not fit very well into a regular panier. Also you have the manty's to cover your gear. The biggest advantage was not having to pour $$$ into equipment we will not use very often. The ropes and manty's are useful for other purposes too. There are some great books on the subject. one is called 'packin in on horses and mules' and the other is 'horse packing in pictures'. btw, it is best to have 'hard' seat, slick forked saddles. If you don't have a hard seat, you might want to protect the seat with something (we use a sheepskin). We even succesfully packed an elk on an ausie saddle. Janet
Re: Another Fjord horse Buying question
This message is from: Steve Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sheryl O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>I had the chance to ride a Fjord on a "dude" trailride and really liked her, but I am curious what type of horsey owner is well matched to a Fjord versus other breeds What I mean is, what would be a good "job description" or attributes of a typical Fjord? I currently ride an Appy, very pretty, athletic and thoroughbred typey. I love her smooth gaits, beautiful way of moving, her energy and willingness, but I wish she wasn't quite so hot. I would also like shorter to make mounting easier on the trail. I have thought about the possibility of a little quieter horse for pleasure and trail riding. I have an secondary interest in driving, but couldn't ever imagine hooking my mare up to a cart! The one Fjord I rode was sturdy and calm, but seemed a little stubborn perhaps. I talked to the wranglers and they both preferred their quarter horses but did say that the Fjords were much calmer and easier to train - more people oriented as babies. Can't judge a breed by one horse ridden on a dude string though! thanks, Sheryl<<< I haven't known many Fjordies well, but my two mares are as different as night and day. The things they do have in common are their incredible cuteness and their absolute good naturedness. Aagot, from Grabb/Solar lines, is very low-key, steady and easy going. Shari, my horse trainer, calls her my pokey little pony! After two weeks with Aagot I could tell she was anxious to get back to her Arabians. However, when Aagot is on the trail, she kicks it up a gear because she can't wait to see what is around the bend. My Dorina on the other hand, is the one I kiddingly tell anyone who gets on her that she forgot to read the book about how Fjords should behave before she was born! She is Dutch bred, by Holunder. She is a couple notches hotter than Aagot, but nothing a good determined beginner can't handle most of the time. If she was younger I can just imagine her in the hands of someone like Vivian Creigh because she has a "big engine" and a special look and way of going. Shari really enjoys working with Dorina, she is more the type horse she likes. I enjoy riding both horses. So, I would say, there is enough variance in the breed to get what you prefer with a little study and shopping. Good luck finding a Fjordie to suit you because they are great little horses. Meredith Sessoms Moulton Alabama USA ~ Dorina, NFR Aagot and little Anjee ~
exporting Fjords
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pat, GREAT IDEA! BUT...in all fairness Wayne Hispley was the first person that I heard talk about this. HE was referring to the drafty Fjords. He said that he could see Europe wanting some of our draftier ones as they don't have as many or are declining in number. I hear people talking about importing stallions, as they want "new blood" but I think we have a wonderful group of stallions in North America. A LOT of really really nice ones! All across the U.S and Canada. Patti Jo Walter Francis Creek Fjords Two Rivers WI -getting another tease of Spring this weekend!
buying horses
This message is from: "janet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi All, I'd never buy a horse without trying it out. Far too few people selling horses do an adequate job of describing the real nature of the horse. Every animal has its good and bad points, the question is are they features you can deal with, or are they problems you are not able to cope with. A bad match can lead to disaster, or at least a very unpleasant relationship. It is so important that you and the horse click together, and you just won't know that without spending some time with them. I too purchased my first Fjord from Patti Walter. Patti is the first person I have ever met that could accurately describe what she had for sale. Gyda has been a great match for me, and we work well together. Patti spent quite a bit of time letting me get to know her, which helped me feel confident this was the right horse. btw, I always recommend going to look at a horse sans trailer. It makes it much easier to leave if you discover the horse is not what you want. The trip back also gives you lots of thinking time. Janet
