Re: In season? Kids on trails? Pellets and founder?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/31/2005 2:14:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you think that lifting her tail to the side when you scratch her means she's coming in? Nope! Most horses (even the boys) will lift their tail to the side when you scratch near the tail head, just because it feels good or to give you better access for scratching. I've seen babies that would stick their stubby little tails almost straight up into the air! Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords 260 May Creek Rd Days Creek, OR 97429 541-825-3303 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: In season? Kids on trails? Pellets and founder?
This message is from: "Vanessa N Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Right now Zipper is on a low protein feed. I'll find out more from the barn manager ASAP. We were feeding just enough to put wormer and grow-colt in it. Now I think she's getting one and a half quarts. Other than the pellets for the wormer, we've been feeding plain hay only. They are in dry lots. They get grazed for about a half hour every other day, on someone's lawn. Right now I can just see her ribs and a big belly. How do you evaluate proper condition in a young horse like this? Do you think that lifting her tail to the side when you scratch her means she's coming in? Vanessa ---Original Message--- From: Jean Ernest Date: 07/31/05 16:31:12 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: In season? Kids on trails? Pellets and founder? This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Most fillies will come into heat by age two..too early to breed in my opinion, but they CAN get pregnant. Pellets: What are the ingredients? If you want to avoid founder but put on some weight, add some ground flax, and rice bran, high fat feed, or oil..Also beet pulp is safe. It all depends what the ingredients of the pellets are! Pellets can be alfalfa, grass hay, grain and hay, etc. Adding a little Calf Manna can help put on weight also. Also..At two years of age, Zipper is still growing and would look slimmer than a mature Fjord. Don't be in a rush to put a lot of weight on her! Most Fjord are too fat in my opinion..mine included! What are you feeding right now..just pasture? or just hay? She MAY need a little supplement...Or is the older horse chasing her away from her feed? Jean in smoky Fairbanks, Alaska, only 60 degrees today with sun >My two year old, Zipper, seems to be 'flagging' when scratched on the rump. >How old are most horses when they first come into season? > > >Lastly, to what extent, if any, do pellets contribute to laminitis/founder? >We are trying to put weight on Zipper (we just wormed her) and I'm trying to >figure out how much to give her. Someone told me that horses that founder >easily could have a problem with pellets. Also, we are a little uncertain as >to whether Zipper is too thin or just not as round as some other Fjords in >the area. Is this a problem of type? How do I figure this out?
Re: In season? Kids on trails? Pellets and founder?
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Most fillies will come into heat by age two..too early to breed in my opinion, but they CAN get pregnant. Pellets: What are the ingredients? If you want to avoid founder but put on some weight, add some ground flax, and rice bran, high fat feed, or oil..Also beet pulp is safe. It all depends what the ingredients of the pellets are! Pellets can be alfalfa, grass hay, grain and hay, etc. Adding a little Calf Manna can help put on weight also. Also..At two years of age, Zipper is still growing and would look slimmer than a mature Fjord. Don't be in a rush to put a lot of weight on her! Most Fjord are too fat in my opinion..mine included! What are you feeding right now..just pasture? or just hay? She MAY need a little supplement...Or is the older horse chasing her away from her feed? Jean in smoky Fairbanks, Alaska, only 60 degrees today with sun >My two year old, Zipper, seems to be 'flagging' when scratched on the rump. >How old are most horses when they first come into season? > > >Lastly, to what extent, if any, do pellets contribute to laminitis/founder? >We are trying to put weight on Zipper (we just wormed her) and I'm trying to >figure out how much to give her. Someone told me that horses that founder >easily could have a problem with pellets. Also, we are a little uncertain as >to whether Zipper is too thin or just not as round as some other Fjords in >the area. Is this a problem of type? How do I figure this out?
Re: Bits for fjords
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Strange but true, one of the best bits I have used for "bitty" horses is a strange oval ringed with a mouth piece of a figure eight swivel with a ball in the middle, there are three linked together. My sensitive mouthed Holsteiner loved it and had the softest mouth with it. Yet I had an instructor who thought it was a "severe" bit but she tended to make snap decisions. I believe it may be of English make. Jean Author 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520
In season? Kids on trails? Pellets and founder?
This message is from: "Vanessa N Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My two year old, Zipper, seems to be 'flagging' when scratched on the rump. How old are most horses when they first come into season? Thanks for the responses on age. Lipizzans, my last breed, tended to live unusually long (late 20s - early 30s), and it is not unheard of that a 25 year old mare would foal her last offspring at that age. Rhoda and I had a nice trail ride, with two friends, through the Connecticut woods. She really loves to be up ahead of everyone else and really moves out I wish I could take my daughter, Polly, with me, but at 7 1/2 she isn't ready. Does anyone have kids who could give me some ideas about when they might be old enough to go trail riding? My son, T.J. is 5 1/2. We are all taking lessons at a good training barn so there isn't any rush - I'm just curious. Lastly, to what extent, if any, do pellets contribute to laminitis/founder? We are trying to put weight on Zipper (we just wormed her) and I'm trying to figure out how much to give her. Someone told me that horses that founder easily could have a problem with pellets. Also, we are a little uncertain as to whether Zipper is too thin or just not as round as some other Fjords in the area. Is this a problem of type? How do I figure this out? Vanessa Weber Kenjockety Westbrook, CT
Re: Bits for fjords
This message is from: CHERYL GARNICA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean Thanks for your info...I had the same problem finding a bit with my POA and the low pallet. I came to the conclusion after asking all the POA experts that he just doesn't like ANY bit...but his head ducking quit after taking somone's suggestion..he just hates to be bitted, it is ok once in his mouth..equine dentist and all didn't make difference. I was looking at the Comfort snaffles too...that word "comfort"..heh heh. I need to go measure his mouth...maybe 5 1/2" is what I need. Confusingthere is a Myler Video on ebay I think I will bid on ...not sure if that will help or confuse me more. There is a Stateline Tack a few miles from me...may just take the $55 plunge. I am a Western Trail toodler..nothing fancy and my guy still has a lot to learn, as do I. I'm finding fjords ARE different in many ways..all GOOD but a bit confusing! Thanks Cheryl Garnica in S. Cal Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest Many Fjords need a 5 1/2" bit. Also their pallet is low with a large tongue, so a two piece mouthpiece in a snaffle pokes them in their pallet. The Myler bits work great..curved to fit the mouth.. the Myler "Comfort snaffle" is good, comes in 5 1/2" in Dover and Stateline catalogs. I ordered a 6" Myler with a solid low port mouthpiece and military elbow cheeks for my big gelding, Bjorken, and he is comfortable and responsive in that. I use it with the rein in the first slot below the snaffle setting. The Glory bits are good too..the mouthpiece is a curved solid mouthpiece angled slightly forward. These bits come in "Butterfly " and Liverpool cheeks for driving (I use the butterfly one for riding) and a dressage approved riding snaffle with Baucher style cheeks. see them at: http://www.glorybits.com/ You generally need a 5 3/4" or larger for the driving styles or the cheeks pinch. Call Ray Johnson to order..he is very interesting to talk to! Bridles! Yes a much larger brow band! I find that the oversize English bridles have a large enough brow band but often the cheeks are too long...Dave Mcwethy can make you a bridle to fit! http://www.horseharness.com/ I hope this helps, Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, cool and smoky this morning..42 degrees! >Anyone have suggestions for fjord bits? My guy is broke basically and >using a simple O ring snaffle 5". I have been thinking I need a 5 >1/4". He has also been ignoring direct rein cues a lot.the arena is >away from the other horses and is fixated a fair amount on going back to >the gait to try to get a look/smell of the others.even after lunging. > > >Did some reading on the Myler snaffles and wondering if anyone has >experience with this. Or, are fjords different with their needs? Any >suggestions appreciated.
Re: Bits for fjords
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Many Fjords need a 5 1/2" bit. Also their pallet is low with a large tongue, so a two piece mouthpiece in a snaffle pokes them in their pallet. The Myler bits work great..curved to fit the mouth.. the Myler "Comfort snaffle" is good, comes in 5 1/2" in Dover and Stateline catalogs. I ordered a 6" Myler with a solid low port mouthpiece and military elbow cheeks for my big gelding, Bjorken, and he is comfortable and responsive in that. I use it with the rein in the first slot below the snaffle setting. The Glory bits are good too..the mouthpiece is a curved solid mouthpiece angled slightly forward. These bits come in "Butterfly " and Liverpool cheeks for driving (I use the butterfly one for riding) and a dressage approved riding snaffle with Baucher style cheeks. see them at:http://www.glorybits.com/ You generally need a 5 3/4" or larger for the driving styles or the cheeks pinch.Call Ray Johnson to order..he is very interesting to talk to! Bridles! Yes a much larger brow band! I find that the oversize English bridles have a large enough brow band but often the cheeks are too long...Dave Mcwethy can make you a bridle to fit! http://www.horseharness.com/ I hope this helps, Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, cool and smoky this morning..42 degrees! >Anyone have suggestions for fjord bits? My guy is broke basically and >using a simple O ring snaffle 5". I have been thinking I need a 5 >1/4". He has also been ignoring direct rein cues a lot.the arena is >away from the other horses and is fixated a fair amount on going back to >the gait to try to get a look/smell of the others.even after lunging. > > >Did some reading on the Myler snaffles and wondering if anyone has >experience with this. Or, are fjords different with their needs? Any >suggestions appreciated.
Re: Blue Earth Photographer Bob Mischka
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just finished sending Bob Mischka all of the exhibitor names, addresses and exhibitors numbers from the Blue Earth Show. He will be sending proofs out to all of you shorty. Pat Holland
Re: age of Fjords
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: "Vanessa N Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi Everyone, > > How long do Fjords usually live? > > Vanessa > The good ones not long enough - the not so good ones too long. With a bit of humor left over from Blue Earth Pat Holland By the way, ..I also have TWO helmets I picked up on the grounds Thursday prior to leaving. If anyone is missing any contact me privately.
Bits for fjords
This message is from: CHERYL GARNICA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyone have suggestions for fjord bits? My guy is broke basically and using a simple O ring snaffle 5". I have been thinking I need a 5 1/4". He has also been ignoring direct rein cues a lot.the arena is away from the other horses and is fixated a fair amount on going back to the gait to try to get a look/smell of the others.even after lunging. I figure it is a matter of time to get the work ethic down. Meanwhile, that neck is a lot to contend with strengthwise when he is pulling the other way. He does better with leg pressure but I am trying to get him to work just off the rein for now. Did some reading on the Myler snaffles and wondering if anyone has experience with this. Or, are fjords different with their needs? Any suggestions appreciated. Tack for my fjord has been a challenge!! Bridle : really needs something between large and regular horse (brow band too tight with regularpunching a ton of holes in large), the great saddle hunt (found saddles with double D's helped keep girth from cutting into elbows, Circle Y Omaha round skirt FHQB had it all for width, double Ds and round skirt for back). Now the bit quest for all you experienced people! Did you folks have same problem? Thanks in advance Cheryl in S. Cal
Re: New filly/N.C.
This message is from: "Cherie Mascis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We are growing fjord numbers in the mountains of NC >and looking forward to the second Fjord and Friends >Fun Fest next June. Lee HardinSpruce Pine, NC My hubby and I are moving to Waynesville, North Carolina in Sept. and will be bringing my yearling Fjord filly and my Icelandic mare. What's the Fjord and Friends Fun Fest? Cherie
oz's at home roommate
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] oz really does miss the geldings on either side of him that he played lip tag with at blue earth, but it's funny to watch him with charlie, our rescue, at home. i probably mentioned before (my stories are long, my memory isn't) that i created a dry lot for oz in the paddock next to the barn, leaving access for charlie to go into the pasture. when he first got home thursday, oz was really upset seeing charlie in the green, while he was stuck in the dirt. ok, as upset as oz gets...he goes in a small circle, throws in a little one foot buck, and squeals. now it seems as though charlie doesn't want to leave oz. even though he can go in the pasture, he seems to spend most of his time in the other half of the paddock, keeping oz company. i have turned them out together twice in the pasture, just for a short time. since they both seem to have come from the bottom of the alpha order, hopefully they will develop a peaceful coexistance. when charlie got too close, oz just trotted off. last night i tried oz with the grazing muzzle. he seemed ok with it, though frustrated with his inability to rip large grassy areas from the ground at will. charlie seemed to throw a kick at him, but it may have been because he looked quite strange with the big black thing hanging around his muzzle. we shall see... hot weather is back, yuk laurie and oz, who really doesn't care for filtered dinner
Re: blue earth
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/31/05 7:19:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The MWFHC Blue Earth Show is as unique and one of a kind. It is not the > facilities that make a successful show - It is because of the PEOPLE whom > attend that makes it so. > i totally agree with pat. this year's show was my second, and it was something that will stick in my memory for quite some time. as it will for my non-horsey friend carol, whom many of you met working in the merchandise area with linda and kristen. she emailed me shortly after she got home and said she had a WONDERFUL time. i met many people from this list, some of whom just came up and wanted to meet Oz, hello all, glad you got home safely. our only casualty was one of Oz's new shoes, which he managed to remove in the trailer. i think we were the last ones to leave, since we only have a 4 hour drive home, and it was quite bittersweet, as pat said, to stand outside the empty barn, with the memories running around in our heads. things like oz learning that the fan was not a boogy monster, and that by pushing his nose on the fins, he could push them into the blades to make a funny noise.and then it would stop spinning. i believe his stall mate, yaeger, taught him this one. he was very disappointed to arrive home and find no fan on his paddock fence. minnesota weather still has the power to scare the crap out of me with her tremendous summer storms. it's the only way to break the heat/ humidity we had been having the entire week before. a horse (unnamed) who steps on your foot almost immediately after getting out of the trailer on sunday leaves a bruise in the exact shape of his hoof for you to enjoy for many days thereafter as i have said before, a fjord comes with an extended family. everyone was helpful, and never was a question considered dumb or out of place. and where else in the world could a 58 year old grandmother, who has loved horses her entire life, conquer her fears and run barrels...in publicand have the support and cheers we did. ok, so we trotted most of them because we haven't cantered a lot yet, and when i turned the last barrel and cued Oz to run, i am sure what took so long is he wasn't sure i really meant it :) but we finally did. we missed the cones for the time line, but by then tears were falling down my face. perhaps i had not won a ribbon, but it was certainly a personal best for me... laurie and oz
Re:culture shosck
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/31/05 7:19:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > i went to our local county fair horse show this morning. all i saw was > skinny > >horses with pencil necks, pointy little feet (size 0 shoes, no doubt), and > >wound tighter than a cheap watch. > > > >sure is a lot more relaxing watching our fjords stroll by. > > > > > > You forgot the peanut pushing. > omigosh, that is so true. in the western horsemanship, there was one pair who was going so slowly, i thought there must be something wrong with the horse. there were several others who had quite animated gaits, and actually "loped" during the lope, meaning they covered some ground in the arena. when the winners were called..it was the slow one. the faster runners came in dead last...sheesh. i know it's the QH rules, but the horses just done look natural. please, anyone who shows them, please don't be offended laurie and oz...who would be a peanut pusher if there actually were peanuts and he was allowed to eat them
Hardin family's "Reval"......
This message is from: "Jeanne Zuker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Congratulations on your newest addition!! John and Eunice are wonderful to know and their Fjords are certainly friendly and well mannered. I love my Olaf-99 I got from them and keep in contact with them. I have a brother and sister-in-law in Asheboro, NC, are they any where near you? Again, congrats on your newest girl Jeanne and Olaf Charlotee, MI
Dustenai barn name...
This message is from: "Jeanne Zuker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Shari, Just watch her for a few days and she will probably give you some ideas on a good barn name but you will probably just call her names like 'sweetie pie.' I was really lucky when I got my Olaf since I use it as his barn name as well.maybe Dusty or Dear since they sound similar.Good Girl...Sweetums..Pretty Girl.I do call Olaf the 'cookie moster' because he can tell if I have his cookies from a long distance. I think Fjords look at almost anything as food, Olaf even looks forward to the dewormer as a mid day treat.Congratulations on your Dustenai. Jeanne MI
Blue Earth photos, official & unofficial
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would like to thank everyone who has complimented me on my photos of the Blue Earth anniversary celebration. I had a lot of fun taking the photos in the first place and even more fun putting them on the MWFHC website for all to enjoy. As far as the official show photographer -- his name is Bob Mischka. His email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and his website is http://www.mischka.com/ I seem to recall that Bob said he would contact competitors directly with information about purchasing copies of his photographs -- perhaps in the next week or so. DeeAnna
Re: Age
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 12:39 PM 7/30/2005, you wrote: This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike, who are the "record-holders" (male and female), now? I get the impression that mares outlive geldings. Well these are not confirmed but the records show the mare owned by Ramona Johnson as the oldest: HULDA RR-J-032-M Foaled January 1, 1970 Bred by RON ROUSE, AK STEINBU N-1416 2.pr SANKO N-1522 2.pr BRAGDA N-10793 2.pr BUCK C-34 CFS UNKNOWN SIRE Purdy Mare UNKNOWN DAM LEUNG N-1485 3.pr SOLVFAST N-1557 2.pr HEIDIS N-10149 2.pr THORA C-36 UNKNOWN SIRE Purdy Mare UNKNOWN DAM and the oldest stallion owned by Ester Minty: SIGRUD AFS-K-164-S Foaled January 1, 1971 Bred by BOB PURDY, WY LEUNG N-1485 3.pr SOLVFAST N-1557 2.pr HEIDIS N-10149 2.pr #71 (28 Ranch) TORGNY N-1474 LEIKA N-12082 DENORA N-9584 STEINBU N-1416 2.pr SANKO N-1522 2.pr BRAGDA N-10793 2.pr #72 OR #77 (Purdy mares) SOLVFAST N-1557 2.pr #42 OR #7 MONA N-12080 / EDLA N-12079 === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New filly
This message is from: "hardinlsc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We are now the very excited and proud owners of a second fjord. She is Deere Country Reval from Ayton, Ontario. My husband and I drove to Ontario last Monday and returned with her on Friday. There were so many beautiful fillies to choose from, the decision was difficult. We are growing fjord numbers in the mountains of NC and looking forward to the second Fjord and Friends Fun Fest next June. Thanks to Eunice and John Bosomworth for the two wonderful girls that are now a part of our family!!! Lee HardinSpruce Pine, NC ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com
Re: looking for a harness
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi list, Before I order a new harness for my 14.1 hand fjord mare I thought I might write and see if anyone on the list is selling a nice breast collar harness, black, chrome, leather, sturdy enough for everyday but nice enough to show in. I drive a meadowbrook cart and my mare is approx. 1000lbs. If you have a new or nearly new condition harness for sale..please write me privately. Many Thanks, Kathy Rollins, Deer Park, WA
