Re: Libby Raffle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Everyone, I was hoping that someone attending Libby this year but who is not overly booked with classescould help set out the raffle items on Sat and Sun and assist with ticket sales on Fri. My situation has changed and I am unable to attend this year. My school starts earlier and I am full time this year. We also just added a four year old little boy (two-legged type:) to our family and I am on a busy schedule with him. I was so hoping to come and drive this year as my mare is doing very well practicing at home..watch out next year! If you are going and could help please contact me privately..if not I will go . Lots of neat items coming in for the raffle so be there and buy tickets!Kathleen Rollins ps..Lisa P...I have an extra spring for your waggonette from Brian and will ship it to you soon:)
left footed safety discussion / orthoflex
This message is from: "Janet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi All, I think what could have been a productive discussion on safety at the blue earth show has gotten off on the left foot. I have not even been to BE, but based on the discussion here, it is safe to guess the show is going through some growing pains, which is a good sign for the Fjord breed. It is just a shame some of the sugestions came accross as negative critisisms. We really should not be placing blame, but just opening a discussion how the show can be made better and safer and I'm inclined to believe that is what most really meant to do in the first place, it just did not come out that way. regarding some of the suggestions, thank you Sara for pointing out that horses used for farm work are trained to stand when tied back by the reins to the implement. It is pretty tough to run off with a plow set in the ground with just the bit! that training can apply to a heavy wagon with the brakes set too. It does appear there may be a need for a hitching rail near the biffy's? I mean who has -not- had to use the biffy just before their class? I'm sure the class will be much safer if everyone in there can concentrate on driving . I bet that rail is handy for riders too! As to heading a hitched horse... I've never shown before, but heading hitched horses is a necessity through out early training, as the driver enters or gets out of the cart, or on the farm when training a youngster to hitch to an implement. If heading is a safe practice when training a young horse, how is it not a satisfactory way to control a trained horse, and how is a hitching rail going to be much better? If a horse is going to really freak out, it will make a mess at the rail too. Janet
Re: Fjords win top 3 awards
This message is from: Pam G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Way to go Tammy, Amy, Catherine and Rune. Bring some pictures to the beach ride. Pam and Hansel Catherine lassesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This message is from: "Catherine lassesen" Six Norwegian Fjord Horses win the top three awards at the 39th Annual Pioneer Days Celebration in Southern Oregon - Canyonville. This weekend three teams were presented to the citizens of Southern Douglas County in Southern Oregon at the 39th Annual Pioneer Days Celebration and Parade. Tammy Eichmann from Days Creek, Oregon entered the parade with a surrey and her team of NFHR pure breed Norwegian Fjord Horses. Her assistants, Don Eichmann, an out walker and Karen Sharp dressed as Annie Oakley sang to tunes from Oklahoma and Paint Your Wagon as Tammy drove her gelding, Paradise's Chaz and mare, Wapiti's Baby with brass saddle bells. Amy Evers just moving to Days Creek, OR entered the parade with her two half sister mares, Paradise's Taffeta and Paradise's Emily with a 6 passenger wagonette. Amy dressed in a 1905 dress and top hat. She decorated her wagonette with shipping trunks, baskets, 100 year old suit cases and an old fashion bath tub. Amy and her turn out won 2nd over all for the parade. Rune Lassesen with his team of geldings, Grabben and Lensmann won overall Parade Sweepstakes by bringing a 100 year old covered farm wagon to town. :-) Catherine Lassesen Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Orthoflex for fjords
This message is from: Vicki Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have the Orthoflex endurance saddle that is on this same tree as the Caliente and it fits my Fjord, my Arabs, and my Bashkir Curly. I really like it. My trainer uses the Caliente because it fits so many horses. I got mine used for more than this, so it is a very good price so far. Vicki Johnston Mims, FL
Re: Saftey at shows...
This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > One thing I noticed at two shows this year was the people who came to watch > the show were often clueless about horses and the possibility of them doing > something unpredictable. Baby carriages and small children need to be kept > under wing closely and moved away from the hooves of horses. Complacency is a > problem. Perhaps there needs to be a general announcement at the beginning of > each show addressing this issue. I don't have all the answers, but I know > that many of the things that happen at a show is due to the nature of a horse > and the complacency of the humans. Heads up! > > Pat McCurdy > Cato, NY > I do totally agree there needs to be savvy people watching for the un horse savvy watching the show in a unsafe manor not just for themselves but also for the entrants. one stroller out of control, a person not watching where they go. I wonder what it would entail for spectator police ??? ; )) Roberta
Saftey at shows...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello All- I've been reading the messages concerning safety at shows. I must say there have been some very good points made and I know this topic is something every show committee discusses. As a member of the Finger Lakes Fjord Horse Show committee I can attest to the fact that there are moments when safety is a great concern. We try to address issues as they arise, but sometimes things happen that no one can imagine. I think safety at shows is something that needs to be addressed. However, as someone who works for an educational institution, I would hate to see fun and relaxation taken away due to fear and over restrictive rules. It happens in the world of education a lot. One person gets hurt and a new rule is created to cover the problem. However, many students lose due to the new restriction. One thing I noticed at two shows this year was the people who came to watch the show were often clueless about horses and the possibility of them doing something unpredictable. Baby carriages and small children need to be kept under wing closely and moved away from the hooves of horses. Complacency is a problem. Perhaps there needs to be a general announcement at the beginning of each show addressing this issue. I don't have all the answers, but I know that many of the things that happen at a show is due to the nature of a horse and the complacency of the humans. Heads up! Pat McCurdy Cato, NY
RE: Fjords win top 3 awards
This message is from: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Now, Tillie, you can't tease the rest of us like that and not tell us where you went and what you got 250 of! :-) Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:05 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Fjords win top 3 awards This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Congrats. to all of you. Sounds like you are having to much fun!!! Hope that continues. Amy, I went with John and Debbie you know where and got 250 extra to bring home . I to am having fun.Tillie aka MOM
RE: Fjords win top 3 awards
This message is from: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Congratulations to all! Sounds like fun and a great way to showcase Fjords! Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA >Six Norwegian Fjord Horses win the top three awards at the 39th Annual Pioneer Days Celebration in Southern Oregon - Canyonville. Catherine Lassesen<
Re: Fjords win top 3 awards
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Congrats. to all of you. Sounds like you are having to much fun!!! Hope that continues. Amy, I went with John and Debbie you know where and got 250 extra to bring home . I to am having fun.Tillie aka MOM
Show Safety, & Growth?
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brian Jensen states that "the FJ attracts many newbie's to ownership as they appear so calm and friendly. FJ's are still a flight animal and need to be treated as such." That's well said, I'm all for caution too, but the two accident examples cited for making a case for rule standards were not Fjord horse incidents.. so, request for rule standards denied! HAH Seriously, I've never been to the Blue Earth show (darn!) but the reckless verbal spillage regarding retroactive safety concerns there seem inappropriate at this time and place. Contacting the show committee as Brian did would have been a better plan. Although I am not directly involved, I do feel uncomfortably defensive for those who just spent themselves to make the show a huge success ..and additionally sympathetic for those few ladies who were brave enough to speak up defensively for show participants. An indication, in terms of Fjord promotion and public relations, specific incident comments should not have happened here on the list. IF promoting the Fjord horse at large is our foremost breed priority, then courting public favor in every possible manner is more important than editing show REruns for safety by using specific allegedly bad examples. Safety is all-important yes, but it need not be promoted at the expense of anyone's disfavor! While I agree with Brian's letter for the most part, I conversely hope NOT to see any more show rules and regulations installed which might subsequently inhibit an open participation of all kinds of Fjords and their all kinds of people. Which would not long term benefit big-picture Fjord promotion ..and general breed promotion is better for the Fjord's sake, than achieving individual excellence. One person's slant on what makes for sterile show progress might not be in every Fjord owner's best interest, neither would every person be benefited by doing what other breeds do.. aren't some other breeds going astray? (they say so themselves!) It is simply not fair to promote one Fjord owner over another by exclusionary tactics and will not benefit the Fjord in the long term. Better to think in terms of added participation, rather than elimination. It is difficult to reconcile that which constrains or excludes with so-called "progress." There are some breeds of dogs that have divided into two registries, the working dog, and the show dog, and I see a parallel in that we have the farmish Fjord and the ultra show Fjord, and while it has always appeared to me that the farm class of Fjords are wholly tolerant of the super show Fjord.. it is now proposed there be no reciprocity for tolerance? Why not have equal time and equal tolerance for both categories of Fjord, because we cannot say that one is better or more correct than the other, can we? ..instead of pulling in two directions we could pull together, each in our own way, for the good of the breed as a whole! Are farm Fjords trying to remake ultra show Fjords? no. Not everyone can achieve precision and excellence, but we all admire and emulate those who do, even though it may be unattainable because of various constraints. But of course we can each do OUR best, and that should be sufficiently acceptable. It will be a sorry show day indeed for Fjords if the time ever comes when even a few Fjords are left at home on the farm because their individual culture didn't measure up to ill-advised and discriminatory standards that were inconsistent with their 'rusteek' capabilities. If any change, we should be proposing ways and means of championing the heritage of our dear Fjords, their farm roots, rather than suggesting THEIR reform. Ruthie, nw mt
RE: No better than this
This message is from: "Karen Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lovely story. I, too, hitched yesterday and took my husband out on the road. This is my first time out since a runaway with a haflinger four weeks ago. I ended up in the emergency room and the cart is in need of a carriage maker. So I'm still a little worried, but my Fjord mare was a stalwart. Even when the new neighbor horse came barreling up to the road to have a look at that poor horse being chased by a carriage (aka monster). She startled slightly, calmed at a word from me, and never even looked back over her shoulder at the blowing, galloping horse across the fence. Good pony! Cheers! Karen Sandywonderful and yes, I did enjoy your ride. What a nice memory for the lady and it is so cute to hear she went back in time with her story. _ Low rate ANZ MasterCard. Apply now! http://clk.atdmt.com/MAU/go/msnnkanz003006mau/direct/01/ Must be over 18 years.
Re: Grey/White Dun
This message is from: David Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Sara, An easier, and more certain, way to find out what she is genetically would be to send a hair sample to the genetics lab at UC-Davis.For $50 they will run the cream dilution test. If she's a white she will have one copy of the Cream CCr allele. For an extra $25 you could also ask them to run the agouti (black factor) test. That's the gene that produces greys in Fjords. It would be interesting to know if she inherited a copy of the grey gene from each parent or if she only carries one copy (from Karimann). David Hagen At 10:02 AM 8/29/2005, fjordhorse-digest wrote: Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:56:13 -0400 From: Sara Faull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Grey/White Dun By breeding her to a brown we could find out if she carries the white gene if she throws a white.
Fjords win top 3 awards
This message is from: "Catherine lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Six Norwegian Fjord Horses win the top three awards at the 39th Annual Pioneer Days Celebration in Southern Oregon - Canyonville. This weekend three teams were presented to the citizens of Southern Douglas County in Southern Oregon at the 39th Annual Pioneer Days Celebration and Parade. Tammy Eichmann from Days Creek, Oregon entered the parade with a surrey and her team of NFHR pure breed Norwegian Fjord Horses. Her assistants, Don Eichmann, an out walker and Karen Sharp dressed as Annie Oakley sang to tunes from Oklahoma and Paint Your Wagon as Tammy drove her gelding, Paradise's Chaz and mare, Wapiti's Baby with brass saddle bells. Amy Evers just moving to Days Creek, OR entered the parade with her two half sister mares, Paradise's Taffeta and Paradise's Emily with a 6 passenger wagonette. Amy dressed in a 1905 dress and top hat. She decorated her wagonette with shipping trunks, baskets, 100 year old suit cases and an old fashion bath tub. Amy and her turn out won 2nd over all for the parade. Rune Lassesen with his team of geldings, Grabben and Lensmann won overall Parade Sweepstakes by bringing a 100 year old covered farm wagon to town. :-) Catherine Lassesen
Re: Fjord at an auction
This message is from: "Karen Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sticky beak - Australian for being nosy or check things out. Four years in Australia, I picked up some of the colloquialisms. Hence, my "cheers" at the end of each post. :^) Cheers, Mate! Karen Inquiring minds wanna know...whatsa "stick beak" :-} does it have anything to do with scritching + scratching?? _ REALESTATE: biggest buy/rent/share listings http://ninemsn.realestate.com.au
Looking for Pam
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] can Pamela North ( Northhorse ) contact me please ? Thanks, Lisa
BE Dates and the Fair
This message is from: "Pasqual, Patricia A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, I got it wrong - the Blue Earth County Fair is indeed in August, but I forgot that we work with the Faribault County Fair. So obviously there are still going to be the same problems of overcrowding. I'm optimistic though that there is a way to increase the warmup area size and keep the show safe for all. The level of competition and size of classes described is close to intimidating I have not been able to attend for several years, and am hoping I can get my nerve up to attend next year . . . oh well, a good volunteer is always appreciated too. Tish and Elph in Minneapolis
