I'm impressed
This message is from: Pat Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM IMPRESSED Take a look at the Stallion Photo Gallery in the North America Record Book, Volume 2! 61 stallions have been evaluated and approved in North America under the NFHR evaluation program. In addition there are at least 8 stallions here in North America, evaluated and approved as breeding stallions in their countries of origin before being imported! We have 69 plus excellent choices for breeding and improving our general gene pool. Compare this to Denmarks 52 stallions standing at stud. Compare this to Norway and Holland- similar numbers to Denmark. Thanks to AI and Fed-ex Overnight Service, everyone in North America has access to this incredible gene pool. (AI does work. In 2004 Prydarson bred 6 mares by AI and 5 conceived. In 2005, 7 bred and 6 conceived.) Over the last 20 years many of Norway, Denmark, Holland, Sweden and Germanys top quality stallions and mares have come to North America. These imports are sons, grandsons, daughters, and grand-daughters of the top breeding stallions in Europe. Many of our imports have produced top quality offspring in their country of origin. Note: In 2004 Fjord of the Year in Denmark was Marcus, son of Kastanjegardens Fernando owned by the Howard and Sophie Fiedler and standing in the mid-west. Note: In 2005, Ljosprins, high point 8 year old in Norway, was fathered by Felix, one of my imports, now owned by Susan Cargill and standing in the mid-west. And these are just a couple of examples. We dont appreciate what weve got. Our gene pool is not being used effectively. If these stallions were standing in a European country, each would have had 25 plus breedings a year. Here some mare owners go to easy to find breedings. Its a shame. So why not have fun this spring looking for that perfect stallion for your mare? The record book is a perfectly good place to start. Pat Wolfe www.patwolfefjords.com p.s. My stallion Prydarson is high point stallion of the 61 stallions in our record book! [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of tech.gif]
Re: finally hit me
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol, It finally hit me - why a DVD won't work! Sometimes the Evaluators have to feel the horse. I remember at one of the training seminars we were shown pictures of conformation faults - we saw a horse with a weird white marking on his leg (not a Fjord) that made it LOOK like it was bench knee - an optical illusion. Someone said we didn't need to worry about that with Fjords cause of the no white - it was brought up that - two things..the stripping, molting and hair on the legs sometimes covers what is really there. The angle of the pastern and the angle of the shoulder should be the same (as well as the hoof wall) and with the hair it sometimes looks like the horse is steeper in the pasterns or shorterthus we were told you may have to go and feel the leg to see it - that is one of the reasons I clip horses...to take away that wonder Just a thought I'm slow but I do think all the time. Pat Holland
one more try
This message is from: Carol Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Can anyone help my long time list friend? Her previous email was [EMAIL PROTECTED] . She has changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . For some reason after changing, she no longer can get the posts. I've been sending them on to her, but that is getting to be a bit much and then I'm not sure what she wants and so on. I don't know if the problem is at this end or what. Sure would be nice to have her back and I think she is very interested in the evaluation talk and so on. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
Evaluation Instruction
This message is from: Ardeth Obenauf [EMAIL PROTECTED] At the evaluation in LaCrosse last year a very detailed instruction session was held before the evaluation started. It was conducted by Phillip Oden and the evaluators. They presented a lot of good info and instructions to help an owner show his horse to the best advantage and get the most out of the evaluation process. I felt at the time that this was a great feature, but as it was given immediately before starting the evaluation, it was coming too late to do anyone much good. If this could be recorded and available to owners looking forward to attending an evaluation, (or submitting a virtual evaluation, which is a whole other topic)it would be very valuable. Ardeth Obenauf The Lazy AO Farm Shelbyville, TN
Pleasure Driving Show in MD
This message is from: bolinsj [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Delmarva Driving Club will be hosting its 3rd annual pleasure driving show on May 13th. Mark your calendars. Held at the MD Caroline County Fair Grounds, this is a relaxed, LOW KEY event that is great for learners and a good way to 'tune up' your horses for the show season. (IT was such a great starter event, that we took Kilar last year, at the age of 21 to our first pleasure driving show and we had a great time). We were the only Fjord there last year. Come join us this year? The show will follow basic ADS guidelines, but is not an ADS show. We WILL have an ADS judge. Morning will be the usual pleasure classes, including a youth class. Aftenoon will be timed events such as cones and cross country and draft classes (sorry folks, I think they put a height limit on these, so our Fjordies can't compete). There will be classes for draft to vse. We are also accepting advertising for the show program and need sponsors for classes. of course. Pencil us on your calendar now so you won't forget!! For more information, call Carl Zimmerman 410-632-1191. Martie Bolinski and Kilar the hair-ball in wet and muddy but 60 degree MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] 410-398-0257
Re: question about eval. discussion
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Eike Schoen-Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, February 3, 2006 3:01 pm Subject: question about eval. discussion This message is from: Eike Schoen-Petersen eike.schoen- [EMAIL PROTECTED] How far would you all think the average interested horse owner would travel to an evaluation? How much does the professional film crew cost vs. an evaluator? Isn´t the answer: more evaluators, more evaluations rather than making movies? Eike I agree more evaluations might be the better route but the practical considerations are sometimes enormous. I will be traveling over 1100 miles one way in October. The only reason that I would consider it at this time for this horse is because I will be going tothe event anyway. However I would NOT do it on a regular basis because of both the expense and the risks to horse and driver. With a couple of horses a year, all profit AND operating expenses for a small breeder could easily be gobbled up with evaluations unless they were restricted to only a few horses- which defeats the purpose of the evaluation. Properly preparing and presenting the horse in an evaluation probably has a significant learning curve, particular if like me the handler is an amateur--- meaning that many horses attend more than one evaluation before attaining the final score. Maybe as a start, and an interim approach, a good, well presented training dvd on how to do it so your horse is shown to his full potential would be invaluable. I would certainly buy it. I think until there are more fjords we will have this problem. We really are still a minority horse population. I own a TB mare that I leased out for breedng to a warmblood, that foal was evaluated as a weanling in a class of 50. My point is that even in rural Idaho there are enough warmbloods to get together a foal evaluation of 50 and required only a 300 mile round trip. I am aware of maybe 15-20 Fjords- All ages, registered and unregistered within a 150 mile radius of my place ( and I own four of them). I think it will be a while before we can realistically host the number and distribution of live evaluations which would make them as available as we would like. So in the meantime, a hybrid approach might be the way to go. I contacted the Vocational College here which has a media department and it could be done for less than $150.00. Not a whole film crew, but an experienced videographer with equipment and editing capability. Kathy in SE Idaho
RE: question about eval. discussion
This message is from: Skeels, Mark A \(GE Healthcare\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the one time production of such a dvd if done professionally, would be worth the value of a couple horses to the future of the breed and a great value to the NFHR. After all it is a one time thing, and the cost could be recouped with the sending out of the video application packet, maybe $100 bucks a horse or something like that. I still don't think some people will go to the evaluations with more evaluators, unless they are maybe within a hundred miles or so. There is more to the question of why people don't go to the evaluations. For me and many others I think it is maybe fear of not knowing what or how to show the horse properly. I think once I was to one to break the ice, it would be easier after that and I would probably go to several. It might also be good for me to go to a mock evaluation if such a thing exists to prep for a official evaluation. Mark Skeels in mild winter Helena Montana,, knock on lenolium. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eike Schoen-Petersen Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 4:02 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: question about eval. discussion This message is from: Eike Schoen-Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] How far would you all think the average interested horse owner would travel to an evaluation? How much does the professional film crew cost vs. an evaluator? Isn´t the answer: more evaluators, more evaluations rather than making movies? In the comparatively crowded and concentrated scenario of central europe we are used to take the stallions several hundred miles to their performance tests. Even with foals we are used to travel 150 miles. I´m setting off for the US (New Mexico), hope the weather is a little nicer than here - we are about to another blast of Siberian perma-frost! Eike
