Herald
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Got my Herald yesterday and what a wonderful issue. Loved the cover, actually loved the magazine from cover to cover. Thought it one of the best one ever. Perhaps it was all the color with so many colored ads, and colored photo's in the articles. Or maybe it was just all the great well written, interesting articles and pictures. BUT...whatever it was, I thought Wow, am I ever glad I put an ad in there for my stallion, Ole. Really, that is what I thought. Well done to Beth and Sandy and everyone who submitted articles, ads etc. Super job. I do have question and/ or thought. Are we finally back to the correct time line with the Herald ?? I know or think it all started with the other editor who came on board,then left right away and luckily we got Beth and Sandy to take over, and get things back on track, but getting the Herald in Feb. and almost into March and this being the winter issue. Isn't it a little late, or am I wrong and we typically got it this time of year Guess I was thinking we always got it in Dec before, can't remember forsure???I notice the deadline for the spring issue is March 1st. So when will the spring issue be out in our hands? Just wondering from a stallion owners perspective. Doesn't pay to put another ad for a stallion if the magazine won't be in our hands till June, but if the deadline is March, will we see it in April or May Patti Jo Walter www.franciscreekfjords.com
Bimectin
This message is from: Peggy Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I purchased the Bimectin from Jeffers and it turns out it is the lot number specified in the earlier post. I contacted Jeffers and they stated that the manufacturer had researched the allegations against the product and that their vets had deemed the Bimectin safe. Does anyone have any more info on this situation? I have quite a bit of the wormer and Jeffers says it has not been recalled. Thinking about giving it to my horses makes me nervous.
AOL Users Take Note!
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please forgive me for using this forum for a non-Fjord issue, but I believe this is something which could affect the future of this List, others like it you may receive and enjoy, and the very future of email in general. I have in the past, warned subscribers who use AOL and Hotmail to receive their FjordHorse List that they may be missing many messages or Digests because of their Service Providers arbitrary practices of SPAM identification. Up until now I have been willing to give them the benefit of doubt, chalking the disappearing email up to bugs in new filtering software. However, now AOL is proposing to profit by making the practice official. They will pass advertising from large bulk emailers, who pay for the privilege, right past their SPAM filters and into your inbox, while email from your friends, family and the FjordHorse List will arrive with a less preferential status. Even if you are not an AOL user, please read the message attached below and respond to the petition if you want to help prevent this inequity. -- Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper & Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA If your dog is fat, you aren't getting enough exercise. --Unknown ===Received Today= The very existence of online civic participation and the free Internet as we know it are under attack by America Online. AOL recently announced what amounts to an "email tax." Under this pay-to-send system, large emailers willing to pay an "email tax" can bypass spam filters and get guaranteed access to people's inboxeswith their messages having a preferential high-priority designation.1 Charities, small businesses, civic organizing groups, and even families with mailing lists will inevitably be left with inferior Internet service unless they are willing to pay the "email tax" to AOL. We need to stop AOL immediately so other email hosts know that following AOL's lead would be a mistake. Can you sign this emergency petition to America Online and forward it to your friends? Sign here: http://civic.moveon.org/emailtax/ Petition statement: "AOL, don't auction off preferential access to people's inboxes to giant emailers, while leaving people's friends, families, and favorite causes wondering if their emails are being delivered at all. The Internet is a force for democracy and economic innovation only because it is open to all Internet users equallywe must not let it become an unlevel playing field." Sign here: http://civic.moveon.org/emailtax/ AOL is one of the biggest email hosts in the worldif we stop them from unleashing this threat to the Internet, others will know not to try it. Everyone who signs this petition will be sent information on how to contact AOL directly, as well as future steps that can be taken until AOL drops its new "email tax" policy. AOL's proposed pay-to-send system is the first step down the slippery slope toward dividing the Internet into two classes of usersthose who get preferential treatment and those who are left behind. AOL pretends nothing would change for senders who don't pay, but that's not reality. The moment AOL switches to a world where giant emailers pay for preferential treatment, AOL faces this internal choice: spend money to keep spam filters up-to-date so legitimate email isn't identified as spam, or make money by neglecting their spam filters and pushing more senders to pay for guaranteed delivery. Which do you think they'll choose? If AOL has its way, the big loser will be regular email userswhose email from friends, family, and favorite causes will increasingly go undelivered and disappear into the black hole of a neglected spam filter. Another loser will be democracy and economic innovation on the Internetwhere small ideas become big ideas specifically because regular people can spread ideas freely on a level playing field. If an "email tax" existed when MoveOn began, we never would have gotten off the groundindeed, AOL's proposal will hurt every membership group, regardless of political affiliation. That's why groups all across the political spectrum are joining together with charities, non-profits, small businesses, labor unions, and Internet watchdog groups in opposition to AOL's "email tax." The president of the Association for Cancer Online Resources (ACOR) points out the real-world urgency of this issue: "In essence, this is going to block every AOL subscriber suffering from any form of cancer from receiving potentially life-saving information they may not be able to get from any other source, simply because a non-profit like ACORwhich serves more than 55,000 cancer patients and caregivers every daycannot afford to pay the fee." Can you sign this emergency petition to America Online and forward it to your friends? http://civic.moveon.org/emailtax/ Thank you for all you do. Eli Pariser, Noah T. Winer, Adam Green, an
Re: Bimectin Recall
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've seen all sorts of posts about this subject today. Apparently it is a hoax. Here is the manufacturer's statement on the matter. http://www.bimeda.com/dotcom/bimjpg.jpg I happened to have used Bimectin for my January worming. Not a dead Fjord on the farm. Margaret A. Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA http://www.ironwood-farm.com ***Fjords for Sale: 2002 Brown Dun mare, 2003 Gray and Brown Dun geldings, 2005 Red Dun Colt***
Extravagant movement discussion
This message is from: "bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This has been interesting, and I can certainly appreciate where Carol is coming from, because a search on "extravagent movement" turned up literally hundreds of POSITIVE associations, and only once listed it as a fault.(and we can guess where that was, hah). The Hackney Pony (which is on the endangered species list) even has extravagant movement listed as a Standard attribute! "foreleg raised up and thrown forward in an "extravagent movement." At first I thought maybe the extravagant movement had been inadvertently misplaced under Fjord faults, but I note this additional reference in the Standard: "Conformation should be harmoniously balanced and must always be complemented by substance of body and ample bone. A combination of correct conformation, movement, and breed type is more important than extremes of beauty, elegance, and EXTRAVAGANT movement. What counts and is most important is the ability of the horse to use and develop his inborn qualities." I've read and re-read this, and I'm wondering if the writer wasn't deliberately using a comparative visual illustration for substantial-verus-flashy, not that either was necessarily preferable, but that we can't have one without the other. In other words, it was used metaphorically for keeping our priorities straight.. so that we don't end up one day saying, "where's the beef?" (hah) Still, it is not used metaphorically in the fault list under 7) "way of going" so we are still left with the mysterious question of why it was listed as a fault? It would be interesting to hear from an evaluator, in how this particular aspect has been interpreted and rated throughout the years, and just how much of a role it has played in judging "way of going." Ruthie, nw mt US
Fw: Wormer Recall, Bimectin
This message is from: "bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A lady posted this on another list I'm on, her friend had some horses die after using Bimectin, so she did some research on it and found the following warning: Ruthie Got this from the askavet group... Per Bimection manufacturer the lot number is 5J019. Return the dewormers for a full refund to the store where they were purchased. I was just looking for more info on the product, and found this: http://www.horse.com/products/sku-BBL19.html BBL19 Bimectin There is currently a possible safety issue regarding the use of Bimectin. Until we feel confident enough to give it to our own horses we suggest that you purchase Equimectrin (#BBL08) or one of our other deworming products. Sorry, Out of Stock Jeffers still has it available. Stateline either removed it entirely from their site, or maybe they just don't sell it. Background info, just 'cause I was looking it up for my own education: http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/Bimeda/Bimectin/-38013.html http://www.fda.gov/cvm/FOI/200-326011905.pdf
Re: how the trot should be judged
This message is from: "Beaver Dam Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II, Ltd. Phone: 902-386-2304 Fax: 902-386-2149 URL: www.beaverdamfarm.com E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Raised by the Sea in Health and Tranquility" Visit our NEW Riding Vacation page on our website today! http://www.beaverdamfarm.com/pages/riding-vacation/index.html Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -- I'm glad I introduced this topic because we got some interesting input on the subject of how the trot should be judged. -- I stand corrected that the Breed Standards say EXTRAVAGANT MOVEMENT not EXAGGERATED MOVEMENT as I'd said in my previous post. However, in my mind that doesn't help things a bit as I still don't know what the judges' mean by "exaggerated ovement" -- Do they mean high knee action? Or, do they mean a long, extended stride? Solveig commented that she feels Evaluators are first looking for correctness at the trot. Traveling in a straight line without paddling or winging out. I would say that would be the first thing to look at. Solveig commented that "unfortunately for most of the horses out there, they are not shown to their best advantage." --- I totally agree. Most horses are shown by middle-aged, out of shape people who can't run and keep up with the horses. -- Don't mean to insult anybody, but that does seem to be the norm as far as I've seen. - Solveig commented that it's "for most people it is impossible to get in hand." --- I agree on that which is why I think movement should be evaluated as the horse is free lunged in an arena. Hi Ruthie, I think you are a treasure. Obviously, you are a researcher at heart, and you do come up with some invaluable information. You're right about my getting confused with exaggerated, instead of the "extravagant" that's used in Breed Standard. I liked very much what you found from the Alberta Horse Improvement "group". > "Alberta Horse Improvement" (AB AG) for drafts list criteria for movement as four components: 1) Length of stride, 2) Rhythm, 3)Lightness, and 4)Impulsion. Length of stride is the distance the horse moves while one foot (any foot) is off the ground. Rhythm refers to how well each foot moves in balance and time with each of the other feet. Lightness is a coordination of stride and rhythm so that movement appears to take minimum effort. Impulsion is the use of the hind quarters to provide momentum to the movement. I thought that 'rhythm' said it well. That says a great deal. Then we must add to that straightness with no paddling or winging. That was an interesting find on "goosestepping". -- A lot of people think this is extension. A horse should reach out and aim his front hooves and the hooves should be planted at the end of that arc. -- Sometimes horses do flip their front legs out, and that is not at all correct, but I wouldn't call it "extravagant": or exaggerated" -- I'd just call it incorrect. There was this note on "goosestepping" on an international dressage forum glossary: "Goosestepping: exaggerated movement of the forelegs, in which the forefeet are not set down where the forelegs are pointing, but are retracted. Also called flipping, boxing or kicking." ? might this have been what was intended? Your findings on the Drum Horse don't apply at all to the Fjord. - A Fjord should NOT have a "snappy" front leg action. He should always reach out with a forward and downwards action and plant his feet at the end of the arc. There was a practical description on the movement of the Drum Horse.. "when in motion the ideal Drum Horse should move with action, power, grace, and agility. Head carriage and collection should appear natural, not overly exaggerated or forced. Movement should be free, straight and square with ample impulsion. Knee action should be somewhat snappy but a long, free moving shoulder should allow the ability to reach forward in a classic extension. The horse should move up under itself with a smooth powerful stride, should be light on the forehand and exhibit 3 good gaits. Maybe extravagence refers to that "snappy" part? ha ha No, "snappy" is definitely not good for a Fjord. -- Drum Horse maybe, not a Fjord. maybe I'll try another research sounding, on "extravagence" next time.. I think you have undertaken a worthy endeavor Carol, as it appears there is mystery surrounding this term and a Standard should be well understood. Yes, it should be understood, and I think it's incredible that there has as yet been no answer even though I've asked this question for 6 or 7 years at least. Can it be that they don't have an answer?If so, that needs to be fixed. Arthur and I are off down to MA to see my mother and then we head to a funky little island off the Gulf in Florida. It's really funky, but fits us to a "t". There are no malls or no fast food joints within 60 miles. Yeah! Have any of you seen Newfound
