Re: (FjordList) What to do, what to do?

2006-10-15 Thread Robin Churchill
This message is from: Robin Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jamie, if you don't mind my asking, how did you end up with these two anyway?  
I know that I am probably in the minority but unless you can find someone to 
take them who would give them a good home, I think you should feel some 
responsibility to them because you took them in the first place.  I rescue 
chows and when I take a chow, I keep that chow until I can find a suitable home 
and if that doesn't happen, I keep it until it dies.  Sometimes that becomes 
stressful or inconvenient for me.  I have a chow that I took that has glaucoma, 
is blind in one eye, had heartworm disease, had periodontal disease, has 
required expensive veterinary and vet opthalmology care and still gets 3 kinds 
of eyedrops twice a day.  On top of that, he decided after about 6 months that 
he didn't like one of the other dogs and attacks him if they get together. I 
could go on about some of his other character defects. I didn't know what his 
problems were when I took him but knew he was likely to have so!
 me problems.   Unfortunately, I know that no one in their right mind would 
take this dog but to me, he has redeeming qualities as well and he is enjoying 
his life so I feel that I have a responsibility to him.  Some people may say  
well, you must not have anything else to do  In fact, I am quite busy with 4 
dogs, 3 horses- two of which I compete in dressage and until recently was the 
only pediatric infectious diseases specialist between Tampa and Miami. I just 
have a soft spot for animals especially ones with special needs.  There are 
other people like me and you might find someone who would give your two fjords 
a good home.  Until then, I think you should focus on their positive qualities 
and provide for them the best you can.  I don't think it is right to euthanize 
an animal just because they are not perfect or have become inconvenient.  I 
think if they are in pain or are so unmanageable that they are dangerous then 
you might consider that as a solution.

Robin in SW FL

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Hi Ellen,

Well, I actually have two other retired ponies in  addition to Heidi and 
Brecken - I really don't have a problem keeping ponies I  can't use, it's just 
that these two can cause so much stress.
I don't see them being suitable as pasture  ornaments for anyone else, 
either.  While they are sweet and friendly (I  realize I didn't make this clear 
in my first e-mail, but they really are...while  they're obnoxious at times, 
they can be so sweet too), they are expensive  to maintain.  I can't imagine 
anyone actually wanting to take them on  knowing the problems.
I don't think they're unhappy...which is part of  what makes my decision 
so difficult.  Believe me, if I thought they were  suffering, I wouldn't 
hesitate to put them down.  I just don't feel like  it's fair to do that to a 
pair 
of animals that, while full of problems, seem  happy and comfortable most of 
the time.
I have thought about retirement homes and rescues  as well, but if I'm 
still going to be responsible for them it really doesn't  make things easier.  
I'd just be trading time for money.  As far as  rescues go...that, to me, is 
another give up option that I just don't feel  right about.  They would not 
be 
easy to place, and I'd be concerned that  they wouldn't receive the care they 
need as it pricey.  I know not all  places are shady...but I'm such a worrier.


Jamie
In the Mountains SW of Denver,  CO




In a message dated 10/13/2006 3:14:50 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
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Jamie,
This is such a hard question. What's wisdom here? All I can  think of are a
couple of counter questions like:
1) Can it be  financially done to have another sound horse to use for riding
and keep the  two others as pasture ornaments?
2) If not, Is their health such that they  can be sold? Will they at least 
make
a good pasture ornament for  others?
3) Or is their health so bad that it's almost impossible to keep  them happy?
IE are they suffering mentally or physically?
4) Would you  consider a retirement home/animal welfare home for  them?

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WOW!!! WOW!!! WOW!!!

2006-10-15 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well any of you that missed the Dancing With Fjords event last 
night in Winona, MN missed the most awesome display of fjords ever 
presented for sure in North America  maybe in the World.


I can't say enough or find the words to explain how impressive it 
really was.  We were entertained for 2 hours by non stop beauty  
then action  comedy all rolled up into the best show ever.  Talk 
about Versatility!!!  WOW again...


It started out with a color guard procession with people  Fjords 
parading in with the flags of all of the countries that were 
represented.  I am sure I will miss someone but there were guests 
there from Norway, Denmark, The Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, 
Scotland, Switzerland and probably some that I have missed.  if I did 
I am sorry  please someone let me know.


Then the Norwegian Wedding procession started out.  All in Norwegian 
costumes and too beautiful to describe in words.  By the way no one 
really got married but they were a pretty good looking couple.


How the West was Won was very exciting with roping, riding, sliding 
stops, barrel racing etc all going on at the same time.


Following them then we were entertained by Teams of 4  6 horse 
hitches - 6 horses pulling a stagecoach, 4 horses pulling very large 
logs around the arena and then a 4 abreast pulling a wagon which then 
came back in and showed us how to get someplace in a hurry.  Thanks 
to Rich Hotovy, Mike Sadlon  Bob Gudknecht with Bob  Sally 
Kjorsivg's Stagecoach.  And of course all of the behind the scenes 
people doing all of the real work.


Then there were other 4 in hands driven by Dave McWethy  Jeff 
Pedersen.  Dave's was put together with 4 white duns


We had a single handed driving demo (Aachen Bach style) by Henrich 
Dahl of Denmark also that was very elegant.


Then there was the Circus Circus act - Just plain fun.  These guys 
really put on a show- tricks, horses rearing, vaulting  much more.


Marsha Korose did a Hot Wheels demo of some very fast driving as a 
CDE demo in a cow pasture - again you had to be there to see 
it.  (There was an unfortunate accident in the ring during the setup 
of the cows when Curt Pierce went down  almost had to be shot right 
there in the ring!) (just kidding of course)


Sammie Poirier sp put on a Roman Riding demo (standing on the backs 
of two horses  riding the horses with only halters on - no bits at 
all in their mouths.  Simply amazing and very impressive 
indeed.  This was while Beth Beymer was riding  a Reverse Ridden Unicorn


Then there was the Jump for the Fun of it - in the dark with lights 
on the horses  lit jumps held by 4 crazy volunteers.  Very cool also.


The DQ crew was also very impressive with Lauren Chumley  Beth 
Beymer putting on a very impressive dressage demo.


Then we were surprised to learn that Fjords can play soccer in the 
World cup Fjord Soccer match that pitted the Red team against the 
Blue team.  The red team did win with a 1 - 0 lead.  These horses 
really liked playing with that 5 foot high soccer ball too!


The Starfire Farm Quadrille team wound up the evening with an amazing 
performance.  There is no describing it I am afraid you just had to 
be there for it.  Just plain Awesome!


I am sure I have left some of the acts out of this but they were all 
very entertaining  very memorable for sure.  I wish all of you could 
have been here to see it.  There was video taken of it  I think it 
will be available soon for sale from NFHR.


Thanks to all of you who helped put this together for the NFHR's 25th 
Anniversary  especially Beth Beymer who put it all together for us.


Also a big round of thanks to all of our international guests for 
coming  celebrating with us.


And of course without Susan Cargill (who I know doesn't want any 
recognition for this) as our Chair person none of this would have 
come off.  thank you Susan ( Jim) from the bottom of our hearts.


Mike  Renee, from Winona, MN




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PO Box 685
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Re: What to do, what to do?

2006-10-15 Thread KateSeidel
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Having been in the situation twice with cats of being told the best thing  
would be to put them down, that is an agonizing decision to try to make.   (In 
my case, where the situation was a dreadful physical one, the cat was put  
down.  Where the situation was an emotional/behavioral one, we kept the cat  
and 
worked with it and found a good home).
 
I'm not clear from your posts whether the stress is more from dealing with  
the physical issues, or the behavioral ones.  If it's behavior - and you  
decide it's best to keep them, I would invest a bit more money in getting some  
good natural horsemanship based training that focuses on ground manners.   Even 
if their intelligence seems a bit compromised in connection with some of  the 
other breeding issues, you may be able to greatly improve their  manageability.
 
Kate

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RE: blanketing in winter

2006-10-15 Thread Teressa Kandianis
This message is from: Teressa Kandianis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mine appear to be mostly Weatherbeetas of different models and styles.  I
also just buy at the end of the season and usually just use a medium weight
blanket or rain sheet.  I also sometimes use a cooler under to absorb the
sweat.  I didn't like the high necked blankets I've bought as they just
crushed the lower part of the mane.  I bought a couple on sale a few years
ago and ended up having them cut down to a normal neckline.  I have a couple
of heavy blankets for the really cold, wet, blowing snow weather we have for
a couple of weeks every winter.  The only time I've blanketed the horses at
home in the pasture that aren't clipped is if the weather is icky and they
are going to be ridden the next day - and that is just for my convenience,
not their comfort.  The first couple of rainsheets I bought, I bought cheap
ones and they needed lots of repair to be reused and then didn't last
another season.  The Weatherbeetas rarely need a repair and clean up nicely.
I also wash my coolers in my home washing machine (also my saddle pads which
means I need to wash another load or two of water after to get rid of all
the hair) but the blankets go out for washing.  My little 13.3 mare wears a
72 but her 15 hh brother needs a 75 in some brands.

As an aside, the Canadian tack shop, Greenhawk, has a very reasonable line
of blankets that have fab colors and are lined with a cooler like material -
I haven't used mine heavily as I save it for shows. But its like a durable
rain sheet material with an extra layer for warmth and for absorption of
sweat.  The rust color is great on my little mare.

Teressa

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I also have some interest in this issue, and I wonder if Teressa and others
who do blanket could suggest some brands that actually FIT Fjord bodies?
The standard blankets I've tried are just not broad enough across the chest
to accommodate my boy's big neck and shoulders.  The larger sizes that are
broad enough are just too long in the body...

Thanks for any suggestions!

Cindy
Kalamazoo, MI

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 This message is from: Teressa Kandianis

 I clip my mare who is stalled and with paddock turnout in the winter -
 though this year, her winter coat came on in August and I clipped her in
 early September - I clipped a total close body clip except for a patch
under
 the saddle and it has already grown out quite a bit. My fjords at home
 won't get clipped unless they are working and we usually start with chest
 and neck and work from there depending on the level of work. They are in
an
 open stall with a paddock at home and often stand out in the rain or snow
 instead of going in. Or are finally getting to graze once the grass loses
 its potency in late fall. The difficulty with not clipping is that it
takes
 forever for them to cool off and dry out in cold, wet, windy weather as
you
 can't just put a blanket on them with them still soaking wet. Mine keep
 their blankets on pretty well - they are no more hard on them than the
other
 breeds at my training barn. But the winter blankets always need a good
 repair job when they get cleaned - I've found the inexpensive ones end up
 costing more as the hardware pulls out and they rip more easily than the
 higher priced ones.

 We're lucky though with fjords that unless we change the climate for them
 (as in moving to Florida or clipping them for our convenience), they do
just
 fine with their own coats.
 Teressa in Ferndale, WA


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ellen Barry
 Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:58 AM
 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
 Subject: Re: blanketing in winter


 This message is from: Ellen Barry

 Robin,
 should I do the same here in TN? If so;
 which parts do you clip, how short do you clip it? (Like down to the skin
or
 do you leave some) Perhaps you have a picture of what they look like
 clipped?
 Thanks, Ellen.

 - Original Message 
 From: Robin Churchill
 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 7:49:19 AM
 Subject: Re: blanketing in winter


 This message is from: Robin Churchill

 If you are going to work him significantly in the winter then he will
sweat
 and you will have to spend time every day getting him dry after you ride
if
 that is even possible with a heavy fjord coat or clip him. If you clip him
 then you have to blanket him to protect him from the weather. I have
always
 ridden in the winter even when I lived up north and was lucky enough to
have
 access to an indoor arena so I have always clipped my horses in winter and
 blanketed them. If you are not going to 

Re: WOW!!! WOW!!! WOW!!!

2006-10-15 Thread ruth bushnell

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This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well any of you that missed the Dancing With Fjords event last night in 
Winona, MN missed the most awesome display of fjords ever presented for 
sure in North America  maybe in the World.



Mike

THANKS for the recap Mike.. sounds wonderful! Glad there will be a chance 
for a DVD re-run.


Ruthie, nw mt

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Re: WOW!!! WOW!!! WOW!!!

2006-10-15 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED]

At 02:41 PM 10/15/2006, you wrote:

This message is from: Ellen Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes, rub it in.(LOL)
Wish I could have been there.
Can't wait for the Video? (DVD???)


The whole event was video taped so yes there will be DVD's available 
for those of you that could not attend.  There will probably be at 
least 3 of them the way it looks right now.  One of them will be the 
Dancing with Fjords  event  I am sure there will be a way to 
purchase the whole set too.


Mike


Ellen.


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To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:38:23 AM
Subject: WOW!!! WOW!!! WOW!!!


This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well any of you that missed the Dancing With Fjords event last
night in Winona, MN missed the most awesome display of fjords ever
presented for sure in North America  maybe in the World.

I can't say enough or find the words to explain how impressive it
really was.  We were entertained for 2 hours by non stop beauty 
then action  comedy all rolled up into the best show ever.  Talk
about Versatility!!!  WOW again...

It started out with a color guard procession with people  Fjords
parading in with the flags of all of the countries that were
represented.  I am sure I will miss someone but there were guests
there from Norway, Denmark, The Netherlands, Belgium, Germany,
Scotland, Switzerland and probably some that I have missed.  if I did
I am sorry  please someone let me know.

Then the Norwegian Wedding procession started out.  All in Norwegian
costumes and too beautiful to describe in words.  By the way no one
really got married but they were a pretty good looking couple.

How the West was Won was very exciting with roping, riding, sliding
stops, barrel racing etc all going on at the same time.

Following them then we were entertained by Teams of 4  6 horse
hitches - 6 horses pulling a stagecoach, 4 horses pulling very large
logs around the arena and then a 4 abreast pulling a wagon which then
came back in and showed us how to get someplace in a hurry.  Thanks
to Rich Hotovy, Mike Sadlon  Bob Gudknecht with Bob  Sally
Kjorsivg's Stagecoach.  And of course all of the behind the scenes
people doing all of the real work.

Then there were other 4 in hands driven by Dave McWethy  Jeff
Pedersen.  Dave's was put together with 4 white duns

We had a single handed driving demo (Aachen Bach style) by Henrich
Dahl of Denmark also that was very elegant.

Then there was the Circus Circus act - Just plain fun.  These guys
really put on a show- tricks, horses rearing, vaulting  much more.

Marsha Korose did a Hot Wheels demo of some very fast driving as a
CDE demo in a cow pasture - again you had to be there to see
it.  (There was an unfortunate accident in the ring during the setup
of the cows when Curt Pierce went down  almost had to be shot right
there in the ring!) (just kidding of course)

Sammie Poirier sp put on a Roman Riding demo (standing on the backs
of two horses  riding the horses with only halters on - no bits at
all in their mouths.  Simply amazing and very impressive
indeed.  This was while Beth Beymer was riding  a Reverse Ridden Unicorn

Then there was the Jump for the Fun of it - in the dark with lights
on the horses  lit jumps held by 4 crazy volunteers.  Very cool also.

The DQ crew was also very impressive with Lauren Chumley  Beth
Beymer putting on a very impressive dressage demo.

Then we were surprised to learn that Fjords can play soccer in the
World cup Fjord Soccer match that pitted the Red team against the
Blue team.  The red team did win with a 1 - 0 lead.  These horses
really liked playing with that 5 foot high soccer ball too!

The Starfire Farm Quadrille team wound up the evening with an amazing
performance.  There is no describing it I am afraid you just had to
be there for it.  Just plain Awesome!

I am sure I have left some of the acts out of this but they were all
very entertaining  very memorable for sure.  I wish all of you could
have been here to see it.  There was video taken of it  I think it
will be available soon for sale from NFHR.

Thanks to all of you who helped put this together for the NFHR's 25th
Anniversary  especially Beth Beymer who put it all together for us.

Also a big round of thanks to all of our international guests for
coming  celebrating with us.

And of course without Susan Cargill (who I know doesn't want any
recognition for this) as our Chair person none of this would have
come off.  thank you Susan ( Jim) from the bottom of our hearts.

Mike  Renee, from Winona, MN




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Mike May, Executive Director  Registrar
PO Box 685
Webster, NY  14580-0685

Voice 585-872-4114
FAX 585-787-0497

http://www.nfhr.com
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Re: WOW!!! WOW!!! WOW!!!

2006-10-15 Thread ssfarms
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Mike,
It would be really great if someone with the talent for editing could put 
together a half hour or hour program to send to RFD-TV and try to get them to 
run it.  They have national shows for other breeds on quite often.  This sounds 
like there would be enough to submit several programs.
Barb Lynch
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PROTECTED]: -- 


 This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR 
 
 At 02:41 PM 10/15/2006, you wrote: 
 This message is from: Ellen Barry 
  
 Yes, rub it in.(LOL) 
 Wish I could have been there. 
 Can't wait for the Video? (DVD???) 
 
 The whole event was video taped so yes there will be DVD's available 
 for those of you that could not attend. There will probably be at 
 least 3 of them the way it looks right now. One of them will be the 
 Dancing with Fjords event  I am sure there will be a way to 
 purchase the whole set too. 
 
 Mike 
 
 Ellen. 
  
  
 - Original Message  
 From: Mike May, Registrar NFHR 
 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:38:23 AM 
 Subject: WOW!!! WOW!!! WOW!!! 
  
  
 This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR 
  
 Well any of you that missed the Dancing With Fjords event last 
 night in Winona, MN missed the most awesome display of fjords ever 
 presented for sure in North America  maybe in the World. 
  
 I can't say enough or find the words to explain how impressive it 
 really was. We were entertained for 2 hours by non stop beauty  
 then action  comedy all rolled up into the best show ever. Talk 
 about Versatility!!! WOW again... 
  
 It started out with a color guard procession with people  Fjords 
 parading in with the flags of all of the countries that were 
 represented. I am sure I will miss someone but there were guests 
 there from Norway, Denmark, The Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, 
 Scotland, Switzerland and probably some that I have missed. if I did 
 I am sorry  please someone let me know. 
  
 Then the Norwegian Wedding procession started out. All in Norwegian 
 costumes and too beautiful to describe in words. By the way no one 
 really got married but they were a pretty good looking couple. 
  
 How the West was Won was very exciting with roping, riding, sliding 
 stops, barrel racing etc all going on at the same time. 
  
 Following them then we were entertained by Teams of 4  6 horse 
 hitches - 6 horses pulling a stagecoach, 4 horses pulling very large 
 logs around the arena and then a 4 abreast pulling a wagon which then 
 came back in and showed us how to get someplace in a hurry. Thanks 
 to Rich Hotovy, Mike Sadlon  Bob Gudknecht with Bob  Sally 
 Kjorsivg's Stagecoach. And of course all of the behind the scenes 
 people doing all of the real work. 
  
 Then there were other 4 in hands driven by Dave McWethy  Jeff 
 Pedersen. Dave's was put together with 4 white duns 
  
 We had a single handed driving demo (Aachen Bach style) by Henrich 
 Dahl of Denmark also that was very elegant. 
  
 Then there was the Circus Circus act - Just plain fun. These guys 
 really put on a show- tricks, horses rearing, vaulting  much more. 
  
 Marsha Korose did a Hot Wheels demo of some very fast driving as a 
 CDE demo in a cow pasture - again you had to be there to see 
 it. (There was an unfortunate accident in the ring during the setup 
 of the cows when Curt Pierce went down  almost had to be shot right 
 there in the ring!) (just kidding of course) 
  
 Sammie Poirier put on a Roman Riding demo (standing on the backs 
 of two horses  riding the horses with only halters on - no bits at 
 all in their mouths. Simply amazing and very impressive 
 indeed. This was while Beth Beymer was riding a Reverse Ridden Unicorn 
  
 Then there was the Jump for the Fun of it - in the dark with lights 
 on the horses  lit jumps held by 4 crazy volunteers. Very cool also. 
  
 The DQ crew was also very impressive with Lauren Chumley  Beth 
 Beymer putting on a very impressive dressage demo. 
  
 Then we were surprised to learn that Fjords can play soccer in the 
 World cup Fjord Soccer match that pitted the Red team against the 
 Blue team. The red team did win with a 1 - 0 lead. These horses 
 really liked playing with that 5 foot high soccer ball too! 
  
 The Starfire Farm Quadrille team wound up the evening with an amazing 
 performance. There is no describing it I am afraid you just had to 
 be there for it. Just plain Awesome! 
  
 I am sure I have left some of the acts out of this but they were all 
 very entertaining  very memorable for sure. I wish all of you could 
 have been here to see it. There was video taken of it  I think it 
 will be available soon for sale from NFHR. 
  
 Thanks to all of you who helped put this together for the NFHR's 25th 
 Anniversary  especially Beth Beymer who put it all together for us. 
  
 Also a big round of thanks to all of our international guests for 
 coming  

Re: (FjordList) What to do, what to do?

2006-10-15 Thread Linda Lottie

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Jamie..I missed this story..can you email me privately and share?  
Thanks.Linda Baker Lottie








 




From: Robin Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Re: (FjordList) What to do, what to do?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 05:32:37 -0700 (PDT)

This message is from: Robin Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jamie, if you don't mind my asking, how did you end up with these two 
anyway?  I know that I am probably in the minority but unless you can find 
someone to take them who would give them a good home, I think you should 
feel some responsibility to them because you took them in the first place.  
I rescue chows and when I take a chow, I keep that chow until I can find a 
suitable home and if that doesn't happen, I keep it until it dies.  
Sometimes that becomes stressful or inconvenient for me.  I have a chow that 
I took that has glaucoma, is blind in one eye, had heartworm disease, had 
periodontal disease, has required expensive veterinary and vet opthalmology 
care and still gets 3 kinds of eyedrops twice a day.  On top of that, he 
decided after about 6 months that he didn't like one of the other dogs and 
attacks him if they get together. I could go on about some of his other 
character defects. I didn't know what his problems were when I took him but 
knew he was likely to have so!
 me problems.   Unfortunately, I know that no one in their right mind would 
take this dog but to me, he has redeeming qualities as well and he is 
enjoying his life so I feel that I have a responsibility to him.  Some 
people may say  well, you must not have anything else to do  In fact, I am 
quite busy with 4 dogs, 3 horses- two of which I compete in dressage and 
until recently was the only pediatric infectious diseases specialist between 
Tampa and Miami. I just have a soft spot for animals especially ones with 
special needs.  There are other people like me and you might find someone 
who would give your two fjords a good home.  Until then, I think you should 
focus on their positive qualities and provide for them the best you can.  I 
don't think it is right to euthanize an animal just because they are not 
perfect or have become inconvenient.  I think if they are in pain or are so 
unmanageable that they are dangerous then you might consider that as a 
solution.


Robin in SW FL

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Subject: Re: (FjordList) What to do, what to do?


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Hi Ellen,

Well, I actually have two other retired ponies in  addition to Heidi 
and
Brecken - I really don't have a problem keeping ponies I  can't use, it's 
just

that these two can cause so much stress.
I don't see them being suitable as pasture  ornaments for anyone else,
either.  While they are sweet and friendly (I  realize I didn't make this 
clear

in my first e-mail, but they really are...while  they're obnoxious at times,
they can be so sweet too), they are expensive  to maintain.  I can't imagine
anyone actually wanting to take them on  knowing the problems.
I don't think they're unhappy...which is part of  what makes my 
decision

so difficult.  Believe me, if I thought they were  suffering, I wouldn't
hesitate to put them down.  I just don't feel like  it's fair to do that to 
a pair

of animals that, while full of problems, seem  happy and comfortable most of
the time.
I have thought about retirement homes and rescues  as well, but if I'm
still going to be responsible for them it really doesn't  make things 
easier.

I'd just be trading time for money.  As far as  rescues go...that, to me, is
another give up option that I just don't feel  right about.  They would 
not be
easy to place, and I'd be concerned that  they wouldn't receive the care 
they
need as it pricey.  I know not all  places are shady...but I'm such a 
worrier.



Jamie
In the Mountains SW of Denver,  CO




In a message dated 10/13/2006 3:14:50 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
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Jamie,
This is such a hard question. What's wisdom here? All I can  think of are a
couple of counter questions like:
1) Can it be  financially done to have another sound horse to use for riding
and keep the  two others as pasture ornaments?
2) If not, Is their health such that they  can be sold? Will they at least
make
a good pasture ornament for  others?
3) Or is their health so bad that it's almost impossible to keep  them 
happy?

IE are they suffering mentally or physically?
4) Would you  consider a retirement home/animal welfare home for  them?

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25th Celebration

2006-10-15 Thread Cynthia Madden
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It is over and it was wonderful! It was great to see so many people
with whom I have corresponded or talked with over several years as well as
seeing friends from my years at Blue Earth. I, as a board member, couldn't
have been more proud with how well the whole event came together. It was a
first class affair and does the everyone in the NFHR proud. Susan Cargill as
event manager for the last few months and Curt Pierce who did a lot of
upfront planning as the previous event manager are to be congratulated.
Susan, in particular, brought the whole thing together and gave it a final
polish that was just awesome.

And, what to say about Beth Beymer's organization and personal participation
the Night of Dancing Fjords. I was expecting something great but that hardly
describes how fun and wonderful it was. Our International visitors were very
impressed. The people from the surrounding area who came were extremly
impressed and there was standing room only.

So now back to Omaha tomorrow and then back home on Tues. to my critter
family whom I miss. But the memories will be with me a long time. The trip
was totally worth it.

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Cynthia Madden
Las Cruces, NM
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Catching up

2006-10-15 Thread sandra church
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Hi-I've finally caught up with the reading of several months of posts 
whew, many of you have been very busy!  Loki  I have been enjoying some
unique ventures.  We had a blast last summer at the Fjord Fun Festival at
Blowing Rock  plan to go back next year.  We've participated in horse
camping  in trail obstacle clinics   trail riding at unique places such
as Chippokes Plantation where we could ride on the sandy beach of the
James River and we rode at Hogs Island Wildlife Refuge.  What an
experience to have to go through the Surry Nuclear Power Plant check
point to get to the refuge...serious looking men with big guns checked
out everything for explosives!  Although we don't show, we get to do a
variety of fun things.  I do have a question...does anyone know how Alex
Wind is doing?  I've emailed her but haven't heard back.  So Alex, if
you're reading this...how are you??? Just wanted to say Hi to
everyone.   Sandra  Loki in Va.

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Winona

2006-10-15 Thread Dave and Patti Walter
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SECONDS to Mike and Renee -the Show on Sat. Night at Winona was UNBELIEVE,
THE BEST SHOW EVER and I am not just talking Best Fjord Show, I'm talking
BEST PERFORMANCE BY ANY BREED. JUST AN AWESOME AWESOME SHOW. There are not
words to describe how incredible it was to see such versatility, creativity,
and best of all DISPOSITION in this breed.

I was proud to be in it with my stallion, Fair Acres Ole, we did vaulting off
of him with two teenage girls, Keelie Finnel and Megan Holschbach. They did
all sorts of moves on him, even dismounting with spread eagles and round off's
off of him, I'm VERY PROUD to own such a GREAT stallion to allow us to do
WHATEVER we want to and with him. IT JUST MAKE YOU PROUD-watching this show-
TO OWN A FJORD PERIOD!

Beth Beymer and her crew were outstanding in all their performances, actually
just as Mike said A the acts were outstanding, it was just amazing to
watch.  I don't wish to leave anyone out as EVERY ACT was GREAT!Several times
people were giving standing ovations. If that was all we did all week it would
have been well worth coming hours and hours just to see and/or be in this
event. BUT.that was not all there was, the horse show had SEVERAL
outstanding horses in the classes, from riding, to driving to draft, to
dressage, it was wonderful to see top quality Fjord horses.

I thought the stallion review was wonderful. Believe it ended up to be 27
stallions at Winona. That is quite the record, to all be in one place. They
were AL VERY well behaved I might add too. AND let me tell you, we had
TIGHT quarters with little to no warm up area, due to cold weather. Sowe
all had to warm up with stallions, mares, geldings all together in tight
quarters. You really would not have been able to tell which horses were the
stallions, unless you looked underneath, they were all that quiet.

The banquet was totally enjoyed by all, our European quests were the highlight
of the evening. Educating us with their knowledge and joining us closer in our
unity as their love for this breed is quite evident.

I'm home now, grateful to be here, there is nothing like home, but am thrilled
to have been a part of this great event. Lots of hard work went into it. Those
in every aspect should know they did a job well done. It never could have come
together without all those that volunteered. Some minor problems along the
way, some Major weather glitches, BUT...as usual our horses put up with it all
and EVERYONE should be proud to be a Fjord Owner! I know I am

Patti Jo Walter
Francis Creek Fjords
Two Rivers WI

Back to work tomorrow :-)

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