Re: Fjords similar to Lipizzans.

2006-12-01 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 12/1/2006 5:18:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
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A couple of weeks ago people were trying to come up with a comparison
of Fjordhorses to other breeds. Mike had suggested they move like
Quarter Horses. Other breeds were mentioned. -- Try as I might I
couldn't come up with a good comparison. -- But, now Vanessa Weber has
the answer with the Lipizzan breed. Of all the various breeds, I
believe Lipizzans are the most similar to Fjords. I don't know why I
didn't think of Lipizzans as I've used that comparison myself over the
years.
My dressage instructor owns, trains and breeds lipizzans.  (Website is 
www.classicaldressage.com of anybody is interested in reading his site).  Quite 
often in the middle of a lesson, he'll have me stop and flex my horse's poll, 
saying that fjords are quite like the lipps, and it is more difficult to get 
them 
supple at the poll than a warmblood or an arab.  He often points out the 
similarities in training both breeds during our lessons.   

Pamela 
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send in the clowns

2006-12-01 Thread Pedfjords
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In a message dated 12/1/2006 6:18:33 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
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> 
> Out of our three fjords, Hanne is our only "parade" horse.  Tirra and Haylee
> have both been deemed "non-parade" ponies.  While the crowd likes seeing
> them act like fools, we've decided against the wow-factor, and only Hanne
> gets to go now.  In my opinion, not every fjord is parade worthy.  
> 

   Amen to that.
 Speaking of the " wow-factor ", one of the Search and Rescue Horses in last 
years parade decided to rear up way high. ( breed Paint Horse, regular 
job, barrel 
racer ! ) everytime the unit stopped. Since my friend riding this HI HO 
SILVER act was also holding the American Flag, and further was located on the 
outside of the group, it made for some quickgetthecamera scary crowd moves, 
either 
to get out of the way, or run closer and hold the kiddies ( the ones too young 
to be under the horses hoofs fighting for those 10 year old TOOTSIE ROLLS ) 
up next to the " pretty trick horse. " For that photo and the 10 thousand video 
I suppose.

Gotta love the innocent public. 

 I just dont want to kill one of them. 

 * Except that Clown on the Unicycle.  : (

 If anyone decides to parade after these public service 
anouncments...Y H !
  Lisa

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RE: Having horses at home (kind of long)

2006-12-01 Thread Robin Churchill
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--- > This message is from: Jean Ernest
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
 ,
> it certainly is a 
> different relationship than when you have them at
> your home!
 
I agree completely! It has really helped my riding to
have my horses at home.  I used to be a little timid
and sometimes even afraid of my warmblood even though
he is the closest to a fjord temperament that a
warmblood gets.  After taking care of the horses
myself, I gained a lot of confidence and it carried
over in my riding and handling of the horses.  

Yesterday it was hot and the horses were "horsing
around" and I thought they were getting a little out
of hand so I marched out to the pasture, grabbed the
17H 1400 # warmblood by the fly mask and took off for
the barn ( I happen to be about 5feet 2 and 115#).  It
was sort of funny because he immediately followed me
meekly to the barn to get hosed off.  I am sure that
if he decided that he didn't want to go with me, I
couldn't make him but since I have had him at home
myself, I think I can make him do whatever I want and
I guess he does, too.  

I had another kind of funny thing happen this week but
it should remind us to keep feed, etc locked up when
there is a fjord around.  My stalls have small
paddocks attached made of sliding boards.  On
occasion, Ooruk rubs his butt on the boards and will
get them down and lets himself out.  It isn't a big
deal because there is a small fenced pasture around
the barn so he can't really go anywhere and I keep the
feed in a building that also has a fence around it and
a door with a lock which I keep locked at all times.

  In the evening when I bring the boys down to the
barn pasture, I give them a little hay then put their
nighttime hay in the stalls so all I have to do is put
them in at night.  Well, a couple nights ago, I went
in the barn and I noticed there was a lunge line in
the middle of Ooruk's stall, then I noticed that the
timothy portion of his hay was gone, the pangola
(local hay that is kind of like diet hay that I give
the fjords for something to chew on and although they
eat it is not their favorite) was thrown in the back
corner, half the water in one bucket was gone and
there was also a nice deposit for me.  Instead of
breaking out of his stall, Ooruk realized that the
night hay was in there and broke into his stall, ate
what he wanted and let me know what he thought about
the pangola.  No harm was done because there was
really nothing else for him to get into--he likes to
reach over the stall guard and throw lunge lines
hanging on the wall or blankets hanging on the door
around but I keep everything edible in the feed room
locked up.  I had to kind of laugh at him because I'm
sure he thought he was very smart to get the hay when
he wanted it instead of waiting until bedtime and I
guess he kind of was but it does remind me that you
can't let your guard down for a minute with these
horses because they are so smart especially if there
is some food in the equation. 

Regards,

Robin in Florida  High of 88 and humid today--supposed
to cool down Monday!





 

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Re: conduct and cruelty

2006-12-01 Thread ruth bushnell
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The ADS handbook is specifically addressing "participants in a
sanctioned competition," as farther into the context it again mentions
officiating at competitions. Here is the reference:
http://www.americandrivingsociety.org/forms/ADS_Handbook/05_HB2_GeneralRules_Blue.pdf

..whereas the proposed conduct bylaw that was suggested stated, "AT
ALL TIMES," which is taking on a whole 'nother world. (Internet
mentioned too)

Said also, "Must show respect" (at all times) which would include Lisa
and her duct tape =.. which would be nothing short of ridiculous
because we all know that's just Lisa being Lisa.

Incidentally, I have never sued anyone, but many monied (miffed)
people do, and I can think of no greater justification than being
given the boot by a breed club--which would seriously impact your
profit and loss! This is reality, not speculation on my part. When I
saw the suggestion for the bylaw posted, I thought it was up for
discussion.. tell me, why else would it be there? NOW would be the
comment time to contribute input, right?

Material for conflicted interest would come if any person in authority
stood to gain by another's dismissal,for example; a breeder or
breeders on the board executing the dismissal of another breeder
(their loss/their gain), not to mention loss of face which has it's $$
reward also.

As far as "all times" reaching out to include cyberspace,that's
shooting for the moon and stars; another hemisphere. There is no
direct connection between the organization and the list, other than a
link sponsorship.. but Gail is right, that is Steve's department.

We could always fall back on the old golden rule, treating others as
we wish to be treated? investing kindness for like dividends..
probably not as gratifying as authority though. Okay.. bring on the
duct tape, I'm done =)

Ruthie, nw mt US

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Re: Fjords similar to Lipizzans.

2006-12-01 Thread Beaver Dam Farm

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Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia --

A couple of weeks ago people were trying to come up with a comparison
of Fjordhorses to other breeds. Mike had suggested they move like
Quarter Horses. Other breeds were mentioned. -- Try as I might I
couldn't come up with a good comparison. -- But, now Vanessa Weber has
the answer with the Lipizzan breed. Of all the various breeds, I
believe Lipizzans are the most similar to Fjords. I don't know why I
didn't think of Lipizzans as I've used that comparison myself over the
years.

When Arthur and I and the boys lived in France, we went to Vienna
several times, and, of course, always,went to the Spanish Riding
School to watch practices and performances. We once spent an Easter
there and went to a Vienna Boys Choir performance in a church Easter
morning, and a performance of the Spanish Riding School in the
evening. Talk about memories . . . .

-- As Vanessa said, Lipizzans are smaller than people think. What I
remember, and I have photos of those visits, is the stallions looked
looked about 15 hands. The body type was similar to Fjords. As Vanessa
mentioned , Lipizzans are also All-Purpose horses (riding, driving,
and draft). Yes, Lipizzans are often used on the small family farms of
eastern Europe.

Arthur and I saw our first Fjordhorses when we were living in France,
not long after visiting the Spanish Riding School. I was struck by how
similar they were to the Lipizzans we'd seen in Vienna. --

Vanessa wrote that stallions are somewhat taller than mares. I don't
believe that's the case with Fjords. I've always been taught that
stallions and mares mature about the same height, but geldings grow
for a longer period of time and thus mature taller than mares or
stallions.

Vanessa mentioned that Lipizzans like Fjords have low withers and thus
appear shorter than other horses with high withers. -- It's no doubt a
matter of perception, but my personal feeling is that measuring a
horse at the withers is deceiving. Why don't we measure them at the
place on the back where the rider sits? That's the place most relevant
to the rider, isn't it? -- We have one huge mare, BDF Toril, who is a
daughter of the very tall stallion, Solar. -- Toril looks tall.. She
can carry the longest leg person, and she takes up all that leg.
Nobody at all ever looks too big on Toril, or feels too big on her.
The reason is that she has a back like a table top. . Yet, Toril
measures 14.1 hands which is always surprising to me and everybody
else. -- She certainly is a big mare and looks much taller.

We have another horse right now who measures 14.1 hands, and I'm
always so skeptical that she actually does measure that height, that I
keep taking the stick out and remeasuring her every few weeks. -- This
mare is much narrower in the body. She does not take up a lot of leg.
Therefore, in my opinion, she is most suitable for a smaller person.

When we first started with Fjords in 1979 and I began to learn from
Bob van Bon, Chief Inspector of Fjords in Holland, he would always get
on my case when I'd continually ask him how tall a particular Fjord
was. -- He couldn't understand why that was important to me. -- He
would simply describe Fjords as small, average, or big. -- Finally, I
began to think that way too. --

Something that I always find odd is that people begin their
description of a horse by saying . . . "I have a 16.2 TB". -- Why the
height first? Why not the age or sex first? Why not the temperament,
as in "I have the sweetest horse" . . . I always wondered about that.

Well, I think Vanessa Weber is right on. If any breed can be compared
to the Fjord, the Lipizzan breed comes the closest. That would be my
vote.
~~

Regarding Fjords as draft horses . . .

I don't think describing them as draft horses is representational of
the breed. They are All-Purpose horses and should be described that
way. -- Fjords are an All-Purpose Breed, and that includes use as a
riding, driving, and draft horse.

Here's what I tell people when they ask about the breed. . . .


"The Fjordhorse is an All-Purpose breed. He should have the strength
and temperament to be used for Draft work. He should have the
conformation and movement to be a good Riding and Driving horse. And
he should have the character and temperament to be a good Family Horse
-- Quiet, kind, willing, and suitable for most members of the family
."
~

-- I'm not against draft horses, or Fjords being used for draft. We
own a draft harness imported from Norway, and from time to time use it
for hauling stuff and harrowing renas. - Like most people, we don't do
much draft work with our horses. Mostly, they're used for riding and
driving.

I talk a lot about Fjords and dressage, and the reason I talk so muc

Re: Conduct and Cruelty

2006-12-01 Thread BaileysFjords
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Hello,
 
Boy, I am thinking you might be opening up an entire kettle of worms with  
this proposed bylaw.  Wasn't this idea a result of the Horse Illustrated  
"dispute" a few weeks ago?
 
You are going to have to go into detail as to what is acceptable conduct  and 
what is not.  If you do not do this, but use blanket terms, these will  be 
open for personal interpretation and will cause more problems then you  started 
with.  Sort of like philosophy.  :)
 
Anyway, I am not so sure what the point for this bylaw is.  The  conversation 
that birthed this idea happened on this list-a private list  owned by Steve 
which has members that are not affliated with the NFHR.  
 
Lynda
 
Thanks much,  references are available. 

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's 
White Cloud,  MI
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Re: Fjords and Icelandics

2006-12-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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My Icelandics and Fjord get along well too, probably because they all are 
Viking horses! :)


Cherie
NC

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Fjords and Icelandics

2006-12-01 Thread M Korose
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Funny how some of us have noted the similarities, the only other breed of
horse I have let me horse-crazy, horse-loving, husband bring home is an
Icelandic.  We have 2 (and one on the way) and I find them more reserved and
and WAY FASTER than the Fjords, yet they also give me the comfortable trusty
feeling and good karma I get with the Fjords.  But never have either breed
turned their noses up at the other.  In fact in the pecking order of the big
pasture, lone gelding is boss and icelandic mare is next.  Everyone has worked
this out in their (discussing behind our back) way and it works fine.  It is
neat to see the herd galloping up for dinner with two tolters in the crowd.
Both are line-back duns (one black and one brown) so guess they get to stay.
Marsha Korose
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3-Day Walk for Breast Cancer

2006-12-01 Thread fjords
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Ok FJORD PEOPLE. get your walking shoes on! I signed up to do the 3-Day
Breast Cancer walk in San Diego in 2007. I selected this location because of
the dates (November 9, 10 & 11, 2007) and because I knew I could find some
Fjord Friends that would love to walk with me or that would crew or be part
of a cheering section for this walk. I signed up to Captain a team. I have
called it ABC for Abolish Breast Cancer. PLEEASE join me. You do not
have to live in San Diego to walk there. We can make a mini vacation around
this walk and have a lot of fun. JOIN MY TEAM. It will be s much fun. 

 

Below are two websites. The TEAM site and my personal donation site. If you
cannot walk with me, do consider a donation. All donations go directly to
the 3-Day Organization which is the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation
and the National Philanthropic Trust project.  

 

http://www.the3day.org/sandiego07/catherinel

 

http://www.the3day.org/sandiego07/abc

 

If you know anyone that is in the San Diego area that is thinking about
doing the walk; I would love to have team members. Do let them know about
the ABC Team. 

 

Thanks & Hugs,

 

Catherine Lassesen

Southern Oregon

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Windy Acres Monty!

2006-12-01 Thread Jeanne Zuker
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  I am happy to say that I have gotten another Fjord after the sadness of my
loss of Mids-Olaf.  He is WIndy Acres Monty, he is 7 yr. old gelding out of
(sire) Anvil's Simon-104 and (Dam) is Champman Valley's Eira-996. Monty is
14.3hh and a real charmer.  He was at the Thistle Down Equestrian Centre,
Stratford, ON., with Ellen Redden.  He has been with me since Oct 18th and we
are getting to know each other.

Monty was being used as a schooling horse but the owner, Ellen Redden, said he
just was not as happy as he could be.  He has a soft mouth and he just
preferred one rider rather then all the different riders he had.  John and
Eunice Bosemworth (who I had gotten Olaf from) called and told me about him
and I made arrangements with some friends to go and see him, just to see if we
'clicked.'  Monty's training has been in Centered Riding, he is very
comfortable to ride, he has jumped, something I have not done.   I am finding
him a very trustworthy trail mount and working with him so we understand each
other.  It is so great to have another Fjord in the barn, it was very empty
without Olaf, as the pasture was.  Now I look out from my living room and look
right down on the pasture and I can watch Monty, he has also learned that he
can watch the house and see me.

It takes some time to 'read' another horse and have that 'dance' that I had
but we are learning to trust and read each other.  Monty has a wonderful
personality and trusting way about him.  Of course he does, he is a Fjord!  I
am looking forward to a very long, loving relationship with Monty--it is
almost like Olaf had something to do with putting us together--like here is a
horse to take you the places I can't, and he will also take me to the next
level in my riding.

Ellen was also kind enough to sell my the bit, bridle and reins that they had
used with Monty.  I really wanted to keep the same bit he was used to,
especially since he has a soft mouth, and the bridle fit him so nicely.

I still miss Olaf and always will, he was my very first horse and will always
be very special to me.  Monty is also very special to me, he is teaching me
not only happiness but also he is making me a much better rider and I pray we
will have many years and adventures together.

I want to again thank all of you were have been so kind since my loss and have
sent encouraging words, thank you is not enough.  I wanted to share with all
of you my happiness in having Monty come live with me, he makes my heart feel
like smiling again.

Jeanne and Monty
~MI~where we are having rain/sleet/hail/freezing rain/snow mix. We are still
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Re: Generous Jean

2006-12-01 Thread jgayle

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So, Cynthia, who really is charge here?  Fjords or owners?











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Re: gag orders

2006-12-01 Thread jgayle

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Right on Lisa, I also wonder why so much quoting of the laws when this is a 
private list owned by Steve and controlled by Steve.   Jean Gayle











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Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #273

2006-12-01 Thread Ronni Taylor
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Fjords in a Parade: R.Taylor, Straw Hat Stables
   
  There are 2 items that I was never able to "bomb-proof" my Fjord, Winnie 
against. And, if you think about what these items are - it makes sense.
   
  1. She would balk at crossing gratings in the road. (Well, what is a cattle 
crossing guard anyway - a grate in the road). She could be driven or ridden 
around, but not OVER them.
   
  2. The sudden whoosh and flame of the propane heaters on a hot air balloon. 
(It IS fire, after all, and when it suddenly flares up just ahead or behind you 
- well, what would YOU do!)
  She preferred to have the balloon in front of her, so when it whooshed she 
could see it and make sure it wasn't coming towards her.
  Since I'm now training Tigger and Thumper for possible parade duty, I still 
don't think I'll train these 2 cautions out of them. I'll just ask to be 
farther behind the balloon, and drive around the gratings!

 
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RE: Generous Jean

2006-12-01 Thread Jean Ernest

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But isn't it fun to HAVE them at home so they can watch you and get you 
up?  I remember, Cynthia, When you were boarding your horses and while It 
may have been more convenient to be able to travel, it certainly is a 
different relationship than when you have them at your home!


Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, glad you folks are enjoying our Alaskan gift of 
cold air!  It warmed up to +10 and snow this morning!




My bedroom window is about 15 feet from the pasture fence. Every monring I
wake up to Tank trying to levitate me out of bed. He hears my alarm clock
and the more I hit the snooze button, the more he whinnies at me. Then the
dogs get into the act (one mouthy miniature schnauzer and 2 giant
schnauzers). They start barking when Tank starts to whinny. I have no
chance. If I ignore everybody, I just get a large dog nose in my face
sometimes accompanied by a very large paw. I usually give up and get up
before 6 a.m. (even weekends). and...no, it doesn't do any good to leave the
alarm clock off, they have their own!  This morning the mini had me up at
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Re: Parades

2006-12-01 Thread Starfire Farm
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>Hopefully, your little parade has some rules to help keep people safer.
>
Amen!

> We do not enter any parade that allows candy to be thrown from the entrants. 
>Nothing worse than a few hundred kiddies diving for those 10 year old TOOTSIE 
>ROLLS under your horses feet, while kicking, screaming and gouging a few 
>hundred of their friends and sibblings for better positions. 
>  
>
Believe me, this happens! People along the route have no clue how 
dangerous things can be, and how quickly they can happen. In our small 
town Berthoud parade, we've also had local kids hop on their dirt bikes 
and race up and down a portion of the parade route, daring the cops to 
catch them. Lots of fun for the horses!

>We have had Pot Belly Pigs dressed up and pulling wagons.Camels and 
>an Elephant ( they SMELL really really bad says my Fjords ), a lion walking on 
>a leash, Llamas and a tame Long Horned Steer being ridden by a Buckeroo guy 
>with a trick rope. Thankfully for HIM, he didnt try to rope us.
>  
>
What else would you expect for So. California?

In the Parker area (south of Denver) we also have an annual carriage 
club Christmas parade that only allows horses and horse drawn vehicles. 
The years that we participated, there have been at least three runaways 
and people falling off of their horses. One team ended up running 
through a fence and standing over a poor woman who was sitting in a lawn 
chair behind the fence, thinking it was a safe place to sit! The 
organizers have done the best that they can, planning escape routes and 
planting emergency handlers, complete with leadropes, at strategic 
locations along the way. We've had the honor of carrying Santa Claus at 
the very end of the parade, so thankfully weren't involved in any of the 
wrecks, but still had to ask the army of street sweepers (the big, 
motor-driven truck kind) to back off! The sound of the metal brushes on 
pavement was almost more than the horse could handle.

I guess my point is, even when everyone does a really good job of 
organizing the parade, controlling the bystanders, and preparing their 
horses, stuff still happens. Take time to prepare yourself and your 
horse, and have a good insurance policy!

Beth

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Conduct and Cruelty

2006-12-01 Thread Ursula & Brian Jensen
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 Greetings from Brian Jensen,
   Thank you for your comments and legal responses about conduct.
 This topic bears attention. I can see where the wording of such a
by-law is important for its interpretation and enforcement. It strikes me
that a civil action over such a matter would be far more serious and harsh
as a consequence than probation or suspension. Steve, with the Digest has
discontinued contributors over time for their disrespectful comments and
behaviors. Does that mean he is liable for a civil suit? As well, I am aware
of some files being kept now on past member comments on the Digest for
purposes of a possible future civil suit. Is Steve protected, if his list is
used in such civil cases?
  I believe Roberts Rules of Order addresses conduct for behavior in
meetings. We have municipal laws, State/Province laws, National Laws, and
International Laws addressing conduct and behavior. It is these sets of
checks and balances that protect the innocent and provide consequences when
necessary to the offenders.
  Fortunately we have Equine laws designed over time much like the
evolvement of the old English torts which are our laws today. We are not
ADS, and are not a Sanctioned ADS Event but there are standards of conduct
mentioned which actually parallel FEI International Rules.
  In the ADS Handbook Part 2, Chapter Four is a section titled
Conduct and Cruelty. It is interesting that ADS places member conduct and
cruelty to animals in the same chapter under the same heading. I guess it is
because the offences are considered similar.
   Article Three of Chapter Four has the following comments. This is
shortened to be concise.
 Members are to conduct themselves in an orderly manner.
Management shall bar violators from further competition
Acting in a manner deemed improper, unethical,dishonest,unsportsman-like, or
detrimental to the well-being of animals, or making a remark considered
offensive or made with the intent to influence or cast aspersions on the
character or integrity of the Judge or any other person is considered not in
the best interests of ADS. ADS continues into a prescribed warning system
and consequences for offenders. 
 The sign of a mature democratic country is its balanced legal
system with appropriate checks and balances.
Thank you for your time in reading this.
   Brian Jensen 

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RE: Parades

2006-12-01 Thread Jeanne
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I LOVE doing parades... (so does Sandy North!  (J/K) but she IS my official
parade photographer) ;-)

Where we live, Berthoud, CO, they have two parades each year, one in the
summer and one at Christmas.  I love doing both.  We die of heat in the
summer parade, and freeze our you-know-what's off in the Christmas one.

My Hanne is the official parade horse.  Check out this website:
www.nightwindstack.com  their front page shows  my kids and I riding in this
parade this past summer.  I usually drive Hanne.  I have been directly in
front of the fire trucks, marching bands, a HUGE team of very "spiky" draft
horses... where one of them breathed down my neck the entire parade... and I
was on my carriage!  I've had kids directly underneath Hanne's feet chasing
those tootsie roll candies.  And every time... thank goodness for my
Hanne... she stands so patiently and quiet.  This year, the parade was held
up for 20 minutes, while they pulled a 3 year old from underneath the
tractor that had run him over, in front of us.  (not joking!)  We did ride
this year, but still... we were 'locked in' the crowd, just standing ever so
patiently, waiting for the parade to start back up. 

Out of our three fjords, Hanne is our only "parade" horse.  Tirra and Haylee
have both been deemed "non-parade" ponies.  While the crowd likes seeing
them act like fools, we've decided against the wow-factor, and only Hanne
gets to go now.  In my opinion, not every fjord is parade worthy.  

While Berthoud parades are fun to do, they are VERY unsafe.  They have NO
crowd control, let entries throw candy, have no sense of what's safe around
horses... AND!  My all time favorite... they ALWAYS schedule the parade to
go down our main street just as a TRAIN comes directly through town, and
they have to stop the parade to let it pass !!!  (another reason Beth and
Sandy love parades!) (is that NUTS?!)

Jeanne Poirier
 - Buurrrthoud, CO, -5F yesterday AM, 20F today, downright balmy

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Fjord smells

2006-12-01 Thread Autumnhaus
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Hi All,
 
Well, I have to say... my Fjord doesn't smell any different than my  
Icelandic's or miniature horses. Only one that is different is my Donkeyshe 
 
really doesn't have a smell.
 
Also have never had another breed of horse afraid of my Fjord. I have  heard 
that said a lot by Icelandic owners too,... That other breeds of horses  are 
afraid of them.
So far, I have not found that to be the case. 
 
Last but not least.cantering. When I first got my Fjord she would not  
canter. But even her really fast trot could not keep up with a galloping or  
Pacing Icelandic in the main very large pasture. So she has been teaching  
herself to canter/gallop. 
She however,,,prefers to trot only for her fast speed, if she can help  it.
 
Shari

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Re: Membership

2006-12-01 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

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At 04:20 PM 11/30/2006, you wrote:

This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

NOT "PRIVATE!" but a legitimate non-profit organization subject to the
Oxley act. (please correct me on the status if I am mistaken Mike)


You are correct Ruthie.  The NFHR is a 501c(5) corporation.


Assuming it is, "A Non-profit organization is one which does not allow
ANYONE to personally profit from the organization.


That is correct.



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Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar
PO Box 685
Webster, NY  14580-0685

Voice 585-872-4114
FAX 585-787-0497

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RE: Generous Jean

2006-12-01 Thread Cynthia Madden
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LOL, Jean Gayle: "He (excuse me) hears me flush the toilet when I first get
up
and is standing at the gate seeing how long it will take me to get to him.."

My bedroom window is about 15 feet from the pasture fence. Every monring I
wake up to Tank trying to levitate me out of bed. He hears my alarm clock
and the more I hit the snooze button, the more he whinnies at me. Then the
dogs get into the act (one mouthy miniature schnauzer and 2 giant
schnauzers). They start barking when Tank starts to whinny. I have no
chance. If I ignore everybody, I just get a large dog nose in my face
sometimes accompanied by a very large paw. I usually give up and get up
before 6 a.m. (even weekends). and...no, it doesn't do any good to leave the
alarm clock off, they have their own!  This morning the mini had me up at
5:20.

When it's dinner time, (in his humble opinion), Tank,moves to the living
room window and stares at me. Sometimes I think I am living in the people
barn as much as I see the horses staring in the window and observing us.  I
used to feed my Morgan in the front yard so Tank wouldn't eat his grain.
When finished, he would come  right up to the living room window and stare
in until I came out to put him back in the pasture so he could get his share
of the hay.


-- 
Cynthia Madden
Las Cruces, NM
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Dogs (and horses, cm) are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole.
-Roger Caras

Sarchasm (n) The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who
doesn't get it.

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"freezing" California!

2006-12-01 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 11/30/2006 11:29:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is going to 30 here tonight. We are freezing! Regn and Duffers are in the 
barn. FuFu Californians.

Yep, here I think I'm pretty cool riding when it's 35 and 40 degrees, then I 
see that it's 5 degrees everyplace else! 

My Fjords are pleasantly furry, feathered, and bearded for the winter. I look 
like a snowman with my layers of riding clothes, and my stylish sock hat :-)


/ )_~
/L/L
Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
www.eponahorsemanship.com 

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Re: Fjords as Draft Horses and more

2006-12-01 Thread Jon Ofjord

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At 11:18 PM 11/29/2006, you wrote:


Hi All,

I just thought you might be interested to know that the Kentucky
Horse Park considers Fjords as Draft Horses. They are kept in the
Draft Barn there.


Sometimes they live in the Carriage Horse Barn, too. They use them to 
pull the Surrey With The Fringe on Top and I doubt if they are ever 
ridden. Gyllen was used as a riding horse and had only been ground 
driven until she moved to the park. Both mares are Grabb granddaughters.


Jon  


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RE: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #273

2006-12-01 Thread Sue Clark-Sorger
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:15:45 -0900
From: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Clipping, Drying and Cantering


Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, warming up to a balmy +5!


Okay, Jean it's time to take your cold weather back, thanks so much for
sharing
but please much as we appreciated it we would rather not have any more.

Sue in Sandia Park New Mexico where it is -5 this morning.

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Gag Order

2006-12-01 Thread MABogie
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I am responding to Lisa's comment about the member conduct rules proposed by 
Brian.  Personally, I think we all should conduct ourselves in a polite 
manner.  I have no quarrel with the idea of civil discourse.

For me the problem is trying to enforce civil discourse.  It's very hard to 
do.  The proposed bylaw language is vague and subjective.  It has no reference 
to due process.  It's likely to create far more problems than the one it hopes 
to cure.  

I admit that I work in the area of liability claims and have seen plenty of 
litigation involving associations during my career.  While insurance coverage 
may provide an attorney, I can assure everyone that it does not compensate an 
association for the time and expense of the staff and board for responding to a 
suit.  Nor does it respond to the stress of a suit on a volunteer board.  All 
members are indirectly affected by the litigation while in progress.

There are plenty of disagreements within this List and within the NFHR that 
have been polite and respectful.  I believe we should keep that in mind.

Margaret A. Bogie
Ironwood Farm
Rixeyville, VA 
http://www.ironwood-farm.com

***Fjords for Sale: 2004 Gray and Brown Dun geldings, 2006 Brown Dun colt and 
filly***

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