Re: off topic
This message is from: "Karl & Jerrie Froelich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I read that article today, and just now saw your mail. congrats on being a hypermiler. I wish they HAD left your quote in! K. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: off topic This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i was interviewed a week or so ago by the associated press because my name came up in a search for hypermilers. we are people who drive hybrid cars and regularly get more miles per gallon than the EPA ratings, which were just lowered, so now our percentages are even better. the article has shown up in several places, but here's a link to business week if you are interested: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8PE6LGO1.htm they cut my line about my favorite ride being only 1 horsepower, and i have no idea how many miles he gets to the bale of hay. laurie ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Sleeping Fjord
This message is from: Vic Faeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This video is so funny! And, Kate, your comment made me laugh, too. Sometimes I call Einar a Buckethead, not because his head is big, but because he is sometimes so funny. It is his nickname for affection. Vic in Knik, Alaska --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > This is one of the cutest things I have ever seen - > but geethat Fjord has a head like a bucket. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Re manure in the water buckets
This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lori Garone wrote: I have heard there is a reason horses poop in their water buckets when in a stall. I have a horse that has done this does anyone know why and how to stop it? I don't know the reason, but I've had it happen here. Not usually a fjord, but I have had a fjord do this. I raise the bucket above butt level. The horses don't seem to have any trouble drinking from a raised bucket. Fjords or otherwise. Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Fjords on Diets
This message is from: "Michele Noonan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I hope everyone had a lovely Memorial Day weekend. We actually got away from horses and house and soccer and went CAMPING! Caught LOTS of FISH! ATE LOTS OF FISH! We have had a little experience with Fjords and diets. My horses are all the weight we feel is good for each of them. However over the years we have purchased a few Tubbies that we had to work on. Two mares I purchased last year (the weekend of the Moses Lake Spring Fling), were very obese. (Two Rivers Kare and Two Rivers PenJente) They had been on orchard grass ( I mean the whole orchard!). Their feet were bad and it looked like they had beginning arthritis and they were only 14. They had never foundered, however. We brought them home, put them in my 4 acre dry lot area and fed them twice a day with the other horses. ( I am fortunate to have great quality round bales and plenty of horses, so they eat it up in about 10 days each round bale) Being low man on the totem pole, they had to work their way into a spot. Worked GREAT! A year later the vet and farrier both marvel at how good they look and how well they move. One is bred for end of June, the other one didn't take last year. We will have an ultrasound next week to see if she took this year. A few months ago, we were GIVEN two mares, an 11 year old Fjord mare that had severly foundered and her 24 year old mother that was obese with a thick neck, but no other problems. (She looks like a million bucks). Once again they have already lost over 100lbs just being fed a NORMAL amount and having to fit in a herd. Helma,(the 24 year old) however established herself as lead mare in the herd in 48 hours. We have a big pasture but no grass, just a small irrigation creek that runs through it. I have to tell you something so funny though. When we brought them (BrittaI and Helma) home and put them in the corral for a few days to monitor them, they thought they had died and gone to. well you know. They were so hungry, ( I even fed them 3 times a day during this time). They became like ST Bernard Dogs and drooled all over the paddock, SERIOUSLY, it was GROSS. piles and piles of saliva. You would have thought they were RABID. Their previous owners had irrigated land or a small dry stall turnout and that was it. They were either over eating and foundering, or standing in one spot. They eventually acclimated to their new home and Britta is walking around WONDERFUL. The ferrier even said her feet are toughening up finally. (we happened to use the same ferrier, which was good for history). The vet told me they are looking GREAT and slow steady progress is working wonderful. I have had experience with straw. We put it down for the newborn babies and usually the moms slowly but surely eat it. It's CLEAN fine straw and I think the quality and quantity of the straw is the issue with most. Anvil's Morgen has been quite busy at our house, but we are really missing are new young guy Knutsen Fjord's Soren. I can't wait to have him home. Michele Noonan Wild Hair Ranch Stevensville, Montana The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re manure in the water buckets
This message is from: "Lori Garone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have heard there is a reason horses poop in their water buckets when in a stall. I have a horse that has done this does anyone know why and how to stop it? Thank you in advance, Lori ~( / / > /> Lori Garone, PT, HPCS NCEFT Program Director Hippotherapy Clinical Specialist 5001 Woodside Road Woodside, CA 94062 phone: 650 851 2271 x 2# Fax: 650 851 3480 The Protected Health Information (PHI) contained in this email/fax is CONFIDENTIAL. It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. It is to be used only to aid in providing specific healthcare services to this patient or individual. Any other use is a violation of Federal Law ( HIPAA) and will be reported as such. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debby Stai Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:11 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: feeding round bales This message is from: "Debby Stai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have several reasons why I don't like to feed round balesespecially if they just sit out in the weather and are not under coverthey get wet, they get nastyI also have two that would just stand there and eat and eat and eatand get hay belliesI've never used the muzzels, they just worry me as I never turn out with a halter onHow do you stop them from getting sores on the sides of the nose?? Its tough when you board, having done that for the past year. I finally have them with me and have total control...nothing like total control over your horses. We did board at one facility and she wanted to put round bales in my guys turnouts and I said noprimarily she did it as she wanted to save the square bales for in the stallsI was paying ALOT of money, she was trying to figure out how to get more money for less quality care. My guys didn't stay. Debby in Tx The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
off topic
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i was interviewed a week or so ago by the associated press because my name came up in a search for hypermilers. we are people who drive hybrid cars and regularly get more miles per gallon than the EPA ratings, which were just lowered, so now our percentages are even better. the article has shown up in several places, but here's a link to business week if you are interested: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8PE6LGO1.htm they cut my line about my favorite ride being only 1 horsepower, and i have no idea how many miles he gets to the bale of hay. laurie ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Growing forelock
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, all-- I love when Fjords have a beautiful long forelock that falls over their beautiful eyes. Has anyone had any luck using a formula like M-T-G to encourage growth or is it simply a genetic blessing? And, no, Kate, I am not trying to grow Clyde's forelock to cover up more of his buckethead! Thanks, Kris in NC and Clyde ("Bucketheads unite!") ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Pederson's driving weekend
This message is from: "oe Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wea returned yesterday for the Pederson's driving weekend. What a great experience. They have the best facilities for this kind of activity. We drove singles, pairs and a four up. Even had time to saddle up the Fjords and ride away. The weather was great with some wind, but that kept is cooler. Jeff and Lisa have two Fjord mares that I lusted after, Gretle and Marit. Probably did not spell that right but I have CB brain. Just a small malfunction of the brain caused by chemotherapy.The new colt PF Phantom is a joy. He likes things done his way and if Moma gets in the way or does not cooperate, he lets her know. He was running around in the evening time and did not see the feed barrel. He ended jumping right over it. I think she may have an eventing horse. This is the first time I've seen Leidjo (sp) and I was impressed. He is such a gentleman around mares that are in heat. They have a disgruntled employee paddock that I think our mare might move into. The weekend was fun and on Saturday, Jeff outdid himself with pork and tri-tip barbequed roasts. So much for weight watchers. The company was fun and very informative. We put our so far unused Camptown harnesses on our pair. First time out they weren't to keen on it, but after Jeff made adjustments in the reins and other things, it worked out great and the harness looks wonderful on the Fjords. Thank you so much Jeff and Lisa for a fantastic time and for all your hard work and the great food. Pat Wilson Uff Dah Fjords Hyde Park, UT The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
feeding round bales
This message is from: "Debby Stai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have several reasons why I don't like to feed round balesespecially if they just sit out in the weather and are not under coverthey get wet, they get nastyI also have two that would just stand there and eat and eat and eatand get hay belliesI've never used the muzzels, they just worry me as I never turn out with a halter onHow do you stop them from getting sores on the sides of the nose?? Its tough when you board, having done that for the past year. I finally have them with me and have total control...nothing like total control over your horses. We did board at one facility and she wanted to put round bales in my guys turnouts and I said noprimarily she did it as she wanted to save the square bales for in the stallsI was paying ALOT of money, she was trying to figure out how to get more money for less quality care. My guys didn't stay. Debby in Tx The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Finding a Way to Control Feed
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My boy is stout, not obese but stout - and I'm feeling at a loss to control his intake because of our boarding situation. Clearly I am not trying hard enough so maybe you guys can suggest something. Here's the situation: Joe and Della are in a 3 acre pasture with 5 horses - there is very little grass but some. They feed using round bales, so I cannot control the hay intake, and even when they do use square bales, they keep the hay available 24/7 for those skinny little quarter horses and Arabs. I have cut out even the 2 cups of feed a day they were getting. I am reluctant to put a grazing muzzle on, since I am not there throughout the day to check on it. I am negotiating with the barn owner to try and get the Fjords into a pasture on their own where I can control the hay, but that pasture is currently being used for the mares with foals and is not available for a few months (and even then I'm not sure I want to put them into that pasture because everyone goes through it to get to the tack room). Other than trying to increase the exercise, any good ideas? I am thinking the grazing muzzle is my only option and I am just not sure how to coordinate the timing - do I go down to the barn at 5:30 a.m. before work and put it on, then come back in the afternoon and take it off - do I put it on at night, is he at risk having the thing on if there is no one around for many hours during the day? Kate and Joe and Della (who think the 24/7 hay is a very good idea indeed) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Triple Crown feed
This message is from: Fiona Lindsay-Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all. I agree with Onna. I have a fjord and a belgian/halflinger x. Both of whom who need low starch, low carb, and low protein. I have just recently discovered Triple Crown Lite. It has all of the above and is a great product. My gelding, the draft cross, seems to be doing really well on it. I have only just yesterday, switched my mare, the fjord, over to it fully... I will let you know how she does on it. ~Fi. Onna Kulaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This message is from: "Onna Kulaja" Hi, Those of you that are using Tri Country feed might want to look into Triple Crown Safe Starch or a similar feed. It doesn't have any of the NSC's in it. Which means it doesn't have any of the harmful sugars that all other feeds have. There are some similar brands and you can get the name from the web sight www.safergrasses.org. There is also a Timothy cube that doesn't have the NSC's in it. I recently went to a seminar that was put on by safergrasses. Unfortunately we feed our horses all the wrong kind of hay and pasture. Our wonderful brome grass was designed to fatten cattle and does the same for our horses. They should be on prairie grass, but that takes a lot of land since prairie grass can't take the abuse of cattle and horses. Hope this helps. Onna The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw