Re: off topic

2007-05-29 Thread Karl & Jerrie Froelich

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I read that article today, and just now saw your mail.  congrats on being a 
hypermiler.  I wish they HAD left your quote in!


K.
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i was interviewed a week or so ago by the associated press because my name
came up in a search for hypermilers. we are people who drive hybrid cars 
and

regularly get more miles per gallon than the EPA ratings, which were just
lowered, so now our percentages are even better. the article has shown up 
in several

places, but here's a link to business week if you are interested:

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8PE6LGO1.htm


they cut my line about my favorite ride being only 1 horsepower, and i 
have

no idea how many miles he gets to the bale of hay.

laurie


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Re: Sleeping Fjord

2007-05-29 Thread Vic Faeo
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This video is so funny! And, Kate, your comment made
me laugh, too. Sometimes I call Einar a Buckethead,
not because his head is big, but because he is
sometimes so funny. It is his nickname for affection.

Vic in Knik, Alaska

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> This is one of the cutest things I have ever seen -
> but geethat Fjord has a head like a bucket.

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Re: Re manure in the water buckets

2007-05-29 Thread Starfire Farm

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Lori Garone wrote:


I have heard there is a reason horses poop in their water buckets when in a
stall. I have a horse that has done this does anyone know why and how to
stop it?
 

I don't know the reason, but I've had it happen here. Not usually a 
fjord, but I have had a fjord do this. I raise the bucket above butt 
level. The horses don't seem to have any trouble drinking from a raised 
bucket. Fjords or otherwise.


Beth


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Re: Fjords on Diets

2007-05-29 Thread Michele Noonan
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I hope everyone had a lovely Memorial Day weekend. We actually got away from
horses and house and soccer and went CAMPING! Caught LOTS of FISH!  ATE LOTS
OF FISH!

We have had a little experience with Fjords and diets.  My horses are all the
weight we feel is good for each of them.  However over the years we have
purchased a few Tubbies that we had to work on.

Two mares I purchased last year (the weekend of the Moses Lake Spring Fling),
were very obese.  (Two Rivers Kare and Two Rivers PenJente) They had been on
orchard grass ( I mean the whole orchard!).  Their feet were bad and it looked
like they had beginning arthritis and they were only 14.  They had never
foundered, however.
We brought them home, put them in my 4 acre dry lot area and fed them twice a
day with the other horses. ( I am fortunate to have great quality round bales
and plenty of horses, so they eat it up in about 10 days each round bale)
Being low man on the totem pole, they had to work their way into a spot.
Worked GREAT!  A year later the vet and farrier both marvel at how good they
look and how well they move. One is bred for end of June, the other one didn't
take last year. We will have an ultrasound next week to see if she took this
year.

A few months ago, we were GIVEN two mares, an 11 year old Fjord mare that had
severly foundered and her 24 year old mother that was obese with a thick neck,
but no other problems. (She looks like a million bucks).  Once again they have
already lost over 100lbs just being fed a NORMAL amount and having to fit in a
herd.  Helma,(the 24 year old) however established herself as lead mare in the
herd in 48 hours.  We have a big pasture but no grass, just a small irrigation
creek that runs through it.
I have to tell you something so funny though.   When we brought them (BrittaI
and Helma) home and put them in the corral for a few days to monitor them,
they thought they had died and gone to. well you know.  They were so
hungry, ( I even fed them 3 times a day during this time). They became like ST
Bernard Dogs and drooled all over the paddock,  SERIOUSLY, it was GROSS. piles
and piles of saliva.   You would have thought they were RABID.
Their previous owners had irrigated land or a small dry stall turnout and that
was it. They were either over eating and foundering, or standing in one spot.
They eventually acclimated to their new home and Britta is walking around
WONDERFUL.  The ferrier even said her feet are toughening up finally. (we
happened to use the same ferrier, which was good for history).
 The vet told me they are looking GREAT and slow steady progress is working
wonderful.

I have had experience with straw. We put it down for the newborn babies and
usually the moms slowly but surely eat it.  It's CLEAN fine straw and I think
the quality and quantity of the straw is the issue with most.

Anvil's Morgen has been quite busy at our house, but we are really missing are
new young guy Knutsen Fjord's Soren.  I can't wait to have him home.

Michele Noonan
Wild Hair Ranch
Stevensville, Montana

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Re manure in the water buckets

2007-05-29 Thread Lori Garone
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I have heard there is a reason horses poop in their water buckets when in a
stall. I have a horse that has done this does anyone know why and how to
stop it?
Thank you in advance,
Lori
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Subject: feeding round bales

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I have several reasons why I don't like to feed round balesespecially if
they just sit out in the weather and are not under coverthey get wet,
they get nastyI also have two that would just stand there and eat and
eat and eatand get hay belliesI've never used the muzzels, they just
worry me as I never turn out with a halter onHow do you stop them from
getting sores on the sides of the nose??
Its tough when you board, having done that for the past  year.  I finally
have them with me and have total control...nothing like total control over
your horses.
We did board at one facility and she wanted to put round bales in my guys
turnouts and I said noprimarily she did it as she wanted to save the
square bales for in the stallsI was paying ALOT of money, she was trying
to figure out how to get more money for less quality care.  My guys didn't
stay.
Debby in Tx

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off topic

2007-05-29 Thread CrystalZak
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i was interviewed a week or so ago by the associated press because my name 
came up in a search for hypermilers. we are people who drive hybrid cars and 
regularly get more miles per gallon than the EPA ratings, which were just 
lowered, so now our percentages are even better. the article has shown up in 
several 
places, but here's a link to business week if you are interested:

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8PE6LGO1.htm


they cut my line about my favorite ride being only 1 horsepower, and i have 
no idea how many miles he gets to the bale of hay.

laurie


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Growing forelock

2007-05-29 Thread KBatchelor
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Hi, all--
 
I love when Fjords have a beautiful long forelock that falls over their  
beautiful eyes.  Has anyone had any luck using a formula like M-T-G to  
encourage 
growth or is it simply a genetic blessing?
 
And, no, Kate, I am not trying to grow Clyde's forelock to cover up more of  
his buckethead!
 
Thanks,
Kris in NC
and Clyde ("Bucketheads unite!")



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Pederson's driving weekend

2007-05-29 Thread oe Wilson
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Wea returned yesterday for the Pederson's driving weekend.  What a great
experience.  They have  the best facilities for this kind of activity.  We
drove singles, pairs and a four up.  Even had time to saddle up the Fjords and
ride away.  The weather was great with some wind, but that kept is cooler.
Jeff and Lisa have two Fjord mares that I lusted after, Gretle and Marit.
Probably did not spell that right but I have CB brain.  Just a small
malfunction of the brain caused by chemotherapy.The new colt PF Phantom is
a joy.  He likes things done his way and if Moma gets in the way or does not
cooperate, he lets her know.  He was running around in the evening time and
did not see the feed barrel.  He ended jumping right over it.  I think she may
have an eventing horse.  This is the first time I've seen Leidjo (sp) and I
was impressed.  He is such a gentleman around mares that are in heat.  They
have a disgruntled employee paddock that I think our mare might move into.

The weekend was fun and on Saturday, Jeff outdid himself with pork and tri-tip
barbequed roasts.  So much for weight watchers.  The company was fun and very
informative.  We put our so far unused Camptown harnesses on our pair.  First
time out they weren't to keen on it, but after Jeff made adjustments in the
reins and other things, it worked out great and the harness looks wonderful on
the Fjords.

Thank  you so much Jeff and Lisa for a fantastic time and for all your hard
work and the great food.

Pat Wilson
Uff Dah Fjords
Hyde Park, UT

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feeding round bales

2007-05-29 Thread Debby Stai
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I have several reasons why I don't like to feed round balesespecially if
they just sit out in the weather and are not under coverthey get wet, they
get nastyI also have two that would just stand there and eat and eat and
eatand get hay belliesI've never used the muzzels, they just worry me
as I never turn out with a halter onHow do you stop them from getting
sores on the sides of the nose??
Its tough when you board, having done that for the past  year.  I finally have
them with me and have total control...nothing like total control over your
horses.
We did board at one facility and she wanted to put round bales in my guys
turnouts and I said noprimarily she did it as she wanted to save the
square bales for in the stallsI was paying ALOT of money, she was trying
to figure out how to get more money for less quality care.  My guys didn't
stay.
Debby in Tx

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Finding a Way to Control Feed

2007-05-29 Thread KateSeidel
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My boy is stout, not obese but stout - and I'm feeling at a loss to control  
his intake because of our boarding situation.  Clearly I am not trying hard  
enough so maybe you guys can suggest something.  Here's the  situation:
 
Joe and Della are in a 3 acre pasture with 5 horses - there is very little  
grass but some.  They feed using round bales, so I cannot control the hay  
intake, and even when they do use square bales, they keep the hay available 
24/7  
for those skinny little quarter horses and Arabs.  I have cut out even  the  2 
cups of feed a day they were getting.  I am reluctant to put a  grazing 
muzzle on, since I am not there throughout the day to check on it.
 
I am negotiating with the barn owner to try and get the Fjords into a  
pasture on their own where I can control the hay, but that pasture is currently 
 
being used for the mares with foals and is not available for a few months (and  
even then I'm not sure I want to put them into that pasture because everyone  
goes through it to get to the tack room).
 
Other than trying to increase the exercise, any good ideas?  I am  thinking 
the grazing muzzle is my only option and I am just not sure how to  coordinate 
the timing - do I go down to the barn at 5:30 a.m. before work and  put it on, 
then come back in the afternoon and take it off - do I put it on at  night, 
is he at risk having the thing on if there is no one around for many  hours 
during the day?
 
Kate and Joe and Della (who think the 24/7 hay is a very good idea  indeed)



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Re: Triple Crown feed

2007-05-29 Thread Fiona Lindsay-Delfino
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Hi all. I agree with Onna. I have a fjord and a belgian/halflinger x. Both of 
whom who need low starch, low carb, and low protein. I have just recently 
discovered Triple Crown Lite. It has all of the above and is a great product. 
My gelding, the draft cross, seems to be doing really well on it. I have only 
just yesterday, switched my mare, the fjord, over to it fully... I will let you 
know how she does on it. 
   
  ~Fi. 

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Hi,
Those of you that are using Tri Country feed might want to look into Triple
Crown Safe Starch or a similar feed. It doesn't have any of the NSC's in it.
Which means it doesn't have any of the harmful sugars that all other feeds
have. There are some similar brands and you can get the name from the web
sight www.safergrasses.org. There is also a Timothy cube that doesn't have
the NSC's in it. I recently went to a seminar that was put on by
safergrasses. Unfortunately we feed our horses all the wrong kind of hay and
pasture. Our wonderful brome grass was designed to fatten cattle and does
the same for our horses. They should be on prairie grass, but that takes a
lot of land since prairie grass can't take the abuse of cattle and horses.
Hope this helps. Onna

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