Re: fjords and spooks

2008-07-25 Thread jen frame
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Ha! Hysterical!
My Splendora often won't come in to her stall at feeding time to eat,
because she is too busy grazing!
Jen

On 7/25/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>  the reason oz doesn't spook much is that he never lifts his head from the
>  ground.never. i have watched other horses graze, and every once in a
>  while they come up for air and stand around for a while.not oz..
>
>  orhe doesn't flee because he can't carry his hay and run at the same
>  time :)
>
>  laurie, and oz, who would rather save his hay than chance someone else
>  getting it
>
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Been there done that gelding for sale

2008-07-25 Thread fjords
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I'm posting this for my friend who isn't on the list.

Taffy Mercer
Kennewick, WA



FOR SALE.  Been there, done that riding and driving gelding.  TRR Jens, 12
yrs. old, 14.1 hands, brown dun.  Loads, clips, bathes, ties, cross-ties,
high-lines, hobbles, etc.  UTD on all vaccinations, farrier, etc.  Thousands
of miles riding trails in the desert and mountains.  $6500.  Penny Lane
(509) 586-4744.  Pictures and pedigree can be found at:
http://www.nfhr.org/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=1966&HorseName=TRR%20Jens&Page
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Re: fjords and spooks

2008-07-25 Thread CrystalZak
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the reason oz doesn't spook much is that he never lifts his head from the 
ground.never. i have watched other horses graze, and every once in a 
while they come up for air and stand around for a while.not oz..

orhe doesn't flee because he can't carry his hay and run at the same 
time :)

laurie, and oz, who would rather save his hay than chance someone else 
getting it


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Really neat fjord videos!

2008-07-25 Thread Paula Chmura
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I may have missed this if somebody already posted it - but a friend forwarded
these links to me - I think they are really cool -
 
For your enjoymentFjord @ dressage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3LKw2tuh4Y&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeDYoQtJv_8&feature=related
http://www.superguus.com/menuenglish.html

What a neat Fjord - and with a full mane ;)
 
Paula with Frodo and Galianna

 

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Blue Earth '08

2008-07-25 Thread Dave and Patti Walter
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I'll start the thread on the Blue Earth show this year. Personally I think it
was one of the best shows in many years. The quality of horses just gets
better and better, the quality of the riders/drivers as well just improves
every year. The friendly atmosphere and HELPFUL volunteers and HELFPUL
competitors is outstanding. I needed help this year, hate to admit but I am
not really good this year around horses, my knee/leg just isn't 100% and
well.you kind of need both legs. Soit was s nice to get asked if I
needed help and when I asked folks , they were MORE then willing to help me
out. Therine G. drove with me in several classes, sweating right along with
me, as we waited for our class and it was quite hot out. Bob G. also drove
with me, but Tyler, Mike, Nancy and others would have also, they all were very
willing to help me out. Then Bryan and Sharon Simonson did sooo much barn work
and helped me hitch and unhitch, they were amazing how hard they work. So, for
me, it was very touching this year.

I liked our judge, he was very friendly and talked with each exhibitor for
every class. So even if you didn't agree with him, at least he told you his
point of view. Was he perfect, no, he did mess up a couple classes, but I'm
pretty sure I"d mess up even more. The days are long, it's hot out there and
wellour horses do all look a like I suppose. There was a LOT of positive
feed back about our judge and in my eyes, i think he did a really good job.
You are probably saying,  "you must have placed really well". You know the old
saying, if you win, you love the judge, otherwise you hate him. :-) Yes, it
was a VERY good show for us. Megan Holschbach got high point-much credit to
TUF Voss. He's a super horse. Marposia's Bragi, who was in training here, got
Grand Champion at halter, owned by Bryan and Sharon Simonson. Really a nice
looking , well put together gelding. He also placed high in all his riding
classes and first in showmanship.
Nik, the gray stallion owned by Susie and Mike Sadlon, won the Jumper's Choice
class and did super in the other 2 jumping classes. Robin Holland rode him,
Eby Higdon jumped him and he was the hit of the show. Such a wonderful
stallion. Tomas, our Barrel horse was a hit in the jumping and speed classes,
that boy can RUN. ANYONE looking for a barrel horse, I'd LOVE to sell him for
someone to just that with him. Ask anyone that boy CAN RUN! My mare was PMSing
at the show and wasn't happy about showing. It was her first show and
well...you could tell,  but I had a GREAT time driving her and OH it's sooo
fun to dress up. Love that part about driving!!

I did get to drive Peggy Spear's outstanding gelding, Prisco "Dutch" in the
Double Jeopardy class, which we won. I didn't hit ONE cone, that is a RECORD
all in it's own! CREDIT all goes to Dutch, what an amazing horse, think he won
just about every class he was in, OMG is he amazing! Floating smooth trot and
then the extended trot, TAKES YOUR BREATH AWAY. A TRUE TRUE TRUE extension,
wow!! Also got to drive with Robin Holland and her horse Ivan. I was bad and
asked too much and made Ivan canter, SORRY Robin, probably blew our changes of
winning!

What else, went way tooo fast, and so many folks there with outstanding
Fjords. Really was great fun to watch the classes, such talent by horse and
handler.

It amazed me again this year, how these horses do it all. ANDhow they do
it well and without compliant. Just the standing around in the hot sun,
waiting waiting waiting for their turn. I LOVE OWNING A FJORD!!

There is so much more that went on at Blue Earth, and it really is more then
just showing your horse. The friendship, the close "family" ties that we all
feel. The common bond of our love for the Fjords, just makes it a GREAT show.

So...now others can fill you in on all the things i left out. BETTER
IDEA..WHY NOT MAKE PLANS TO COME NEXT YEAR, SO YOU CAN LEARN/SEE FOR
YOURSELF WHAT GOES ON AT BLUE EARTH!!!

Patti Jo Walter
www.franciscreekfjords.com
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Re: Why aren't Fjords as spooky

2008-07-25 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Reading "Natural Horsemanship Explained" by Dr. Robert Miller, and thought  
> this really applied in many ways to our Fjords - at least to mine.  This  
> section was talking about why donkeys are less flighty than the average  
> horse.
>  
> "It evolved in steep, arid terrain.  Blind flight, so effective for  the 
> plains dwelling horse, could be fatal here.  Donkeys, therefore, make  
> decisions 
> rather than blindly fleeing.

Another component is the relative availability of food and water in
the various habitats.  Most horses evolved on rich plains; if they ran
away from every suspected predator, it was no big deal---the calories
and sweat that they expended could be easily replaced.  Donkeys were
on more barren lands, with fewer sources of water, so a strategy that
conserved calories and sweat had survival value.  Likewise, it takes
energy to paw thru snow for buried grass, or eat (hence melt) snow for
water; the Fjords that ran at the drop of a snowflake probably had
trouble finding enough replacement calories to make it thru the
winter.  This also favored their tendency to store every spare calorie
for later use

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
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15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon

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Midge fly bites

2008-07-25 Thread dfle
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I agree these are hard to deal with -- I use the garlic I feed and then I use
a combination of commercial sprays and skin so soft and sometimes I finally
resort to having the vet give the one a shot for the itching.  My old mare is
the worst.  I agree anything that helps is probably more costly than what I
use on other horses.  I did get a buy one, get one free (and free shipping) on
the Avon Skn So Soft so stocked up on it.  It is also great against mosquitos
so I use it on my foals for quite awhile since I can't give them West Nile
until they are a month old.  I worry alot about them.  But I don't believe in
shutting my horses up in a building.  They love being out in the pasture and
next to a natural spring, etc.  And, I just think my foals are happier and
healthier running outside.  There is a product called "Itch No More" in
England (a friend in England told me about) that is supposed to really work
for the midge flies, but I haven't been able to get it.  They now tell me I
can't get it from England but would need to purchase it through their New
Zealand distributor (who doesn't have e-mail).  I'm still working on that.
Rosemary Fleharty

This message is from: "jen frame" 
Hi Rosemary, just
curious: what do you do for your Fjords that are
allergic to midge bites?
I
consider myself an expert on that (!) but my routine costs a lot!
am
wondering what others do.
Thanks,
Jen

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Re: Why aren't Fjords as spooky

2008-07-25 Thread kngould

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I have also heard that Fjords evolved in an area with few natural predators, 
and that terrain and weather formed their major threat to existance. Another 
reason they reason rather than run?

Kim
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Subject: Why aren't Fjords as spooky



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Reading "Natural Horsemanship Explained" by Dr. Robert Miller, and thought
this really applied in many ways to our Fjords - at least to mine.  This
section was talking about why donkeys are less flighty than the average 
horse.


"It evolved in steep, arid terrain.  Blind flight, so effective for  the
plains dwelling horse, could be fatal here.  Donkeys, therefore, make 
decisions
rather than blindly fleeing.  They may choose to flee, or to stay  put 
because
they feel safe (hence, the reputation for "stubborness"), or to  attack 
(hence
their value in guarding sheep against predators such as  coyotes).  But, 
they

are more challenging to train.  With horses, we  simply control and direct
the overwhelming flight response.  The ass makes  its own decisions.  The 
same
is usually true of the hybrid offspring of the  horse and donkey, the 
mule."


My guys are clearly thinking quite a bit rather than blindly reacting - 
not

always. Sometimes they can flee with the best of them.  Butthere is a
marked difference between how they react and how most of the horses at our 
barn

react.  Interesting that their "instinctual behavior" may have been
influenced by the steep terrain they were bred in.

Kate
(with Della and Joe - who would usually rather eat than flee  anyway)



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Why aren't Fjords as spooky

2008-07-25 Thread KateSeidel
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Reading "Natural Horsemanship Explained" by Dr. Robert Miller, and thought  
this really applied in many ways to our Fjords - at least to mine.  This  
section was talking about why donkeys are less flighty than the average  horse.
 
"It evolved in steep, arid terrain.  Blind flight, so effective for  the 
plains dwelling horse, could be fatal here.  Donkeys, therefore, make  
decisions 
rather than blindly fleeing.  They may choose to flee, or to stay  put because 
they feel safe (hence, the reputation for "stubborness"), or to  attack (hence 
their value in guarding sheep against predators such as  coyotes).  But, they 
are more challenging to train.  With horses, we  simply control and direct 
the overwhelming flight response.  The ass makes  its own decisions.  The same 
is usually true of the hybrid offspring of the  horse and donkey, the mule."
 
My guys are clearly thinking quite a bit rather than blindly reacting - not  
always. Sometimes they can flee with the best of them.  Butthere is a  
marked difference between how they react and how most of the horses at our barn 
 
react.  Interesting that their "instinctual behavior" may have been  
influenced by the steep terrain they were bred in.
 
Kate
(with Della and Joe - who would usually rather eat than flee  anyway)



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