Re: Galiana and Frodo
This message is from: Robin Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think the injuries are from a gator. We have gators here all the time and they never approach the horses. I keep the horses fenced off from all the water so that they don't stick their noses down to gator level because that is how they would get them by grabbing them by the nose from the water. The gators are generally on the move if they have to get on land because they want to get back into the water where they have a definite advantage. The ones here go straight from the next door lake through our pond across our small road and into our lake and back. When there used to be some big males on the island (before one of them killed somebody back in July of 2003 and they took all the big gators out of the residential areas which I was in favor of because we have had a couple of 12 footers here before) they would walk across one of the pastures and through the neighbors back yard to get the lake next door on the other side. At night I always put the horses in the back so they won't cross paths with one. Everyone that I know of who has been bitten or killed down here has been in or on the edge of the water. It is a bad idea to crouch down on the edge of water in Florida or swim in freshwater. They are most mobile in the breeding season which is from about April to July down here. I also think it would have to be a huge gator to approach a horse. They know how big they are and what prey they can take. Not that a smaller one won't bite you if you mess with it but they generally head for the water if they see you or the horses coming. Also, the horses know they are bad news and stay away from them. The horses will chase the iguanas but not a gator. Even the fjords seem to know that a big gator is something to stay away from and my warmblood is terrified of them and that's the way I want it. I have had a big iguana fall out of a tree twice onto my arena in the past couple or months and my warmblood didn't blink an eye which I thought was kind of amazing--I didn't care for it much. I have a guy who works on my farm who is a reformed felon and when I told him about Galiana's and the other horse's injuries, he immediately said he thought they were due to a machete. Maybe I am just paranoid (it doesn't mean someone isn't out to get me) but I don't think those injuries occurred by accident. Robin in SW Florida - Original Message From: Frederick J Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 11:31:56 PM Subject: RE: Galiana and Frodo This message is from: Frederick J Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hurray for Galianna and Frodo, I went thru flight training at Mainside Pensacola, Whiting Field, Cory Field, Saufley Field, and finished basic with my carrier qualification at Baron Field (Foley, Alabama). Then off to jet fighter training in Corpus Christi, TX. Darned if I can remember what the helicopter training base's name was at the time help me... I think it started with an E??? You must be near Whiting Field as I believe that is where the chopper training is now... I soloed at Whiting in fixed wing T-34 in 1955. I almost landed on a gator at Whiting as it was ambling across the runway. Did you happen to check around under the fence lines for any gator tracks? Funny about helicopters: When we finished building up here on the mountain and got everything electrified (horse water heaters and all), my power bill jumped dramatically. I think the DEA got wind of the big jump and came looking one night around midnight. VERY quiet, but the anti-collision strobe light lit up our bedroom. They never came back as their infra-red gear would have picked up a lot of warm horse bodies, Llama bodies and the heated horse waterers must have stood out like beacon lights. We didn't even bother getting out of bed... as it was not bothering the Fjords at all. We have CCTV and don't have to get out of bed to look around. Darn handy. Ours are hard wired systems and especially useful to watch the foaling pen too. We are really proud of your Fjords WITH you... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Subject: Galiana and Frodo This message is from: Paula Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks everyone for the good wishes. Galianna was doing much better today and was able to be turned out and even nibbled some grass. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: New Fjord owner saying hello
This message is from: Marie Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Becky and welcome! This list is comprised of some of the sweetest and most helpful folks you'll ever find. It's the next best thing to sitting around the kitchen table, making fast work of a fresh pot of coffee, and talking Fjords! I have learned so much from the infinite wisdom of our members, and am proud to be a part of the Fjord family. Best of luck to you and your new boy! Marie Rosen from Long Island --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Becky Schooff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Becky Schooff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New Fjord owner saying hello To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 1:08 PM This message is from: Becky Schooff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Hello...coming out of lurkdome to say hi. I bought my first Fjord a few months ago; a 10 year old gelding. He was a therapy horse for about 5 years, but became bored and barn sour and would take particular advantage of volunteers (handlers walkers) who were not horse savvy. The facility decided he needed to go to a one-owner home instead of being handled by so many transient volunteers. So I bought him knowing we have some issues to work on. He has an obstinate side for sure, but he's also a charmer and very sweet...and very smart! I'm seeing a lot of the traits in him that I've read about on this list. I've had driving and riding trainers work with him for about 45 days. They both say he is a very good horse who just needs consistency and leadership. We are hoping he will settle in and become a good pleasure/trail/driving horse for our family now that he's had some professional evaluation and tuning. I also have a 5 year old Percheron mare and the two are getting along great. He has a very calming influence on my mare. She adores him and I think the two will make happy trail horse buddies. I'm enjoying reading about all your Fjords and have picked up a wealth of information. Becky in Colorado _ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Bit Suggestions
This message is from: Jacquelyn Leuener [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all- Looking for suggestions for bits for my 3 year old gelding. He has out grown his loose ring training snaffle. I sat in on Muffy Seaton's demo at horse expo in Sacramento and she likes the French links for driving of course. Is a French link snaffle good for a youngster for riding as well? Thank you and hope those ponies with the odd wounds are ok! Jacquelyn in No. NV Snow may fall in Tahoe tomorrow and my guys will be ecstatic for some cold weather! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Bit Suggestions
This message is from: Kristie Strange [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jacquelyn, For my four year old Fjord I have been switching between a full cheek french link snaffle and a rubber mullen mouth loose ring.I like the french link for ring work as it is not so easy for Izzy to lean on my hands in that bit. But she seems to like the rubber bit and is actually more responsive with it. Although lately we have just been trail riding in a Dr. Cook's bitless bridle, which she also seems to really like. :) I would suggest starting with the french link and see how he responds. Good luck! :) -Kristie Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Galianna's injury
This message is from: Misha Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was so shocked to hear of your mare's injury. It does sound like a machete cut but I am going to ask you a question just to set my mind at ease. Could it have possibly been a crack in the vinyl fencing? As a person who uses a lot of pvc conduit and irrigation pipe, I have noticed that when it shatters it turns into long sharp knife-like blades and it could definitely cause damage like your mare incurred. I know pvc is supposed to be sun and cold resistant but I find that is not always the case with my pipe and occasionally it does shatter. Congrats to Frodo for his fine impromtu showing! :0) Misha at Shota Fjords http://www.eoni.com/~mishamez/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Bit Suggestions
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/2/2008 3:13:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Jacquelyn I am also very found of the french link, however I have found that a lot Fjords like a mullen mouth as many have a lower pallet, which is also the part of how the french link works. However I have seen many Fjords that prefer the mullen over the french link.Again it is up to the horse and it's preference. Not all mouths are alike.The space between the front teeth and the first molar is also shorter than in many breeds (not of every one, but many). I would suggest that you try few different kinds and see what your horse tells you. I have had a lot of success with driving using a Kimberwick with a low port. It gives you a little more lightness that you can't always get with just a snaffle when driving. Have a great day Bonnie Morris Western Washington Cloudy and overcast **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2008 #205
This message is from: Caroline Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jacquelyn, I've had my fjord in a Myler comfort snaffle for riding for 3 years and it's worked out very well, even though she is a bit headstrong. I've tried a Sprenger snaffle and she doesn't respond as well, especially when I ask for a turn. When her favorite thing was bolting at the canter (and doing 180s at the fence!) I went to a Myler correctional bit, which is a snaffle with movable (swivel) side pieces that works very well. I use a low port liverpool for driving with the reins on the snaffle ring or the first hook. She's much better now that she's given up the Mongolian pony mode and settled down. Good luck! Caroline Warren Chico, CA Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
need a ride
This message is from: karen ribley [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi all, have purchased a large standard donkey for my Fjord's buddy. looking for transport from Montrose MN.(near Minneapolis) to St. Louis, MO. anytime this month. if you're coming my way, and have room, let me know off-list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). thanks!! Karen Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Updates to NFHR.com website
This message is from: Jeanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Check out the NFHR.com website's newest additions. We've added a front page article regarding the '09 NFHR Annual meeting and Educational Forum, which includes .pdf's for the Registration, Agenda and Nearby Accommodations. Plus, we updated the poll, to reflect everybody's interest in the '09 Annual meeting. Looks like it will be a lot of fun and lots of great information as well. Jeanne - Berthoud, CO Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fjord Friends Care Pkg
This message is from: M. Denmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Fjord Friends, I must tell you how truly overwhelmed with emotion we were to just receive the lovely and thoughtful Fjord Friends care package to help us get through the Hurricane Ike trauma and renewal. (Unexpected, too. I must remember that Lisa Pedersen is also a force of nature. :-) ...thank goodness for her incredible extension of friendship. Her phone calls and those of other fjord owners when we finally got service brightened the days...good thing since we didn't have power.) We are truly grateful and send our sincere thanks to the wonderful extended family of fjord owning friends out there that thought of us. I really don't think you all know quite how much you have helped; we are a family of just the three, no relatives or extended family to reach out to when times get tough so sometimes you feel a little isolated and forlorn. With an adult child with disabilities it is even tough to keep or make friends due to so many limitations on life. Then you receive an unexpected ray of sunshine from folks you have never met...WOW does that lift your spirits. The photos with the names will be saved and looked at by my daughter, Erin, for a long time. She was so thrilled, as were we, and she desperately needed something to lighten her heart. Erin had to deal with many things recently which she was not able to understand: the hurricane, Martin and I having to focus so much energy on the long clean up process (there is still much to do), being very sick for several weeks, and her life long buddy and best cat ever had to be euthanized unexpectedly on Friday. She had been sobbing over this loss for days till the pictures came. They made her very happy. Since Erin is unable to read or write she loves photographs of people (that hopefully one day she will meet) and their fjords. And especially to all of you that were so kind and generous to send additional aid we thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Y'all really outdid yourselves!! We took a long life journey to end up with fjords. These ponies will be our only grandchildren and we love them just that much. They have stolen our hearts with their kindness and trying all the things we ask with such graciousness. Seems like the fjord friends that are out there are also imbued with an abundance of kindness, graciousness, and a generosity of spirit just like those fuzzy ponies that we all so love and have brought us together. Thank you to everyone. I hope that if there is ever a need among our fjord friends that we will be able to reciprocate. Find some peace in each day, Milli Ann, Martin Erin Denmark Magnolia, TX Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
New arrivals
This message is from: Marg Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone interested can now check out pictures of Mogly's new babies and their moms on his website - including some great new photos of Mogly. www.Mogly.ca Marg Kerr Kervan Farm Ontario, Canada Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
