Re: Import/ and the lovely whites
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com What is interesting now, is the popularity of the whites: When I got Stella in 1986 (imported by the Unraus in 1981) the white duns weren't especially popular, nor were the red duns. A prominent breeder sort of sneered at my choice in fact. But I loved the white duns and Stella II, as she is registered in the NFHR is the grandmother of a number of wonderfully talented and beautiful White dun and yellow dun Fjords, through Anvil's Stina and Leidjo. Yes, I jokingly accused Lisa of collecting them...I would have too if I could, but as it is I do have Stella and her granddaughter Anvil's Adel, a yellow dun. I have pictures of Lina, Stella's dam and some of the progeny of Stella and Lina on my Picturetrail album. I need to add some more, as there are now 4 or five more. I have not bred Adel as I can only reasonably care for four Fjords and I still have the two "Seniors, Stella and old Bjarne, in their thirties. And I know I could not part with the baby. I am fascinated by all the white and yellow duns in the registry and note that they seem to go back to Ola Gik and Flikka, with the exception of Brian Jensen's German Stallion BASTIAN VOM ODERHAFF. Also Modellen through his dam, Modella sired by Kviten. Bonnie's colt Lordalen goes back to Modellen and back ultimately to Ola Gik and Flicka. HOWEVER, Solbjor Borken, the sire of Jensen's stallion and perhaps of the newly imported white filly, is a white dun but does not have Ola Gik and Flicka in his background. (And yes, Ruthie, maybe the same ancestors a few generations back.) But it seems that these are new bloodlines for the white duns. I can hardly wit to see the pictures of the new German imports! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where spring finally has sprung with water running everywhere and the fjords are a mess! 50 degrees today! > Thank you for the story Karen. It was nice to hear. I also spent much $ > and time making my purchase of my young unproven white . Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
guinea pigs rule!
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Guineas ...
This message is from: Heather Baskey For those who asked ... http://redrockcavies.com This Spring (2009) I did retire from breeding/showing. I am an active judge (licensed in the States and Canada) and therefore, very busy!!! something had to give and it certainly was not going to be the time that I spend with Henry Fjord I cut down the web site listed above to only a few pages (since my retirement); but there are still alot of photos to be viewed (should you be interested in viewing "something different"). Heather Playing Naturally with bestest pony pal, Henry __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Import/Export/Breeding - Long Post but Nice
This message is from: Susan Cargill Karen K. - I've been thinking that when the truck comes through here tomorrow night at midnight I might just whitewash a cute little brown dun and put her on the trailer but then I thought that's probably not a nice thing to do. We also have a couple of horses that are coming tomorrow night that traveled a long way from Germany. Linka and Alvelin, both beautiful brown duns. Alvelin is a youngster but Linka is four and very pregnant. Due in mid-May. As an adult horse entering this country she was quarantined and had to be tested for CEM. And I'm happy to say, she is negative. We had two Mogly foals due this spring. Our first was a stillborn. It was a very complicated birth and for several days thought we would lose the mare, but Petra, a Felix daughter, is doing well. I'm sure Tamarinde will provide us with a beautiful foal - brown dun. Tammy has the most gorgeous eyes. I'm just praying its not one of those little boy horses - we have enough testosterone around here right now - (2) two year old stud colts, both are Felix sons and quite the lookers but as Lisa mentioned, its much to early to tell. Then we have (2) yearling stud colts, both Hershey sons and cute as buttons. Kimo has lots of possibility and Stendahl has lots of possibility of becoming a gelding. We are planning on two Mogly foals next year also. The mares have been bred at Wisconsin Equine (even though it was not required - we tested all four mares that were in for breeding for CEM - they were all negative) I hope Peg is reading this post because OH Yenna has been bred to Erland via frozen semen. Peg always felt it would be a good match and I agree. There was a comment regarding breeders and the importation of fjords and I'm sorry - don't remember the exact content. But I am a breeder and yes, on occasion do import horses. If you go to the pedigree site you'll see that we have horses from Norway, Holland, Germany, Canada and the good old USA. We have all the Fjord colors. The brood mares are bred on a two-three year rotation and lightly worked in the between years. While I own a wonderful stallion I don't use him for all the breedings - we tend to pick a stallion that improves the attributes of the mare. We currently have (7) two year olds - (5) brown, (1) gray and (1) white; (4) yearlings - (2) brown, (1) white and (1) gray (purchased from another breeder). Our policy is to hold on to our young stock, providing them with training appropriate to their age, space to run in and proper nutrition. Susan Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Trimming posts
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Hmmm That message didn't come thru for some reason... I'll have to look thru the galactic bit bucket... Fred On Behalf Of coy...@acrec.com In fact, if you will look back in yesterday's messages from this List, you will find a post from me that gave instructions that are even more detailed than yours. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2009 #84
This message is from: Emily Wigley Emily must have a Mac...they are smart and do the work when the rest of us click and hold and then DELETE :-) Yep! I only wish I was as smart as my Mac. :-) Maybe you do too, Corinne, since you know how they work!! Emily Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: not erasing
This message is from: "jgayle" Steve, I am now concerned about corresponding with the list as I am not sure if I am erasing or not! May I send a test and not get shot! Jean Gayle Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Trimming replies!?
This message is from: katesei...@aol.com Oh Kay, please!!! You cannot possibly plan to spend money on a computer when you could be buying fun new things for your horses, or just laying in a lifetime supply of peppermints. Kate with Joe and Della (who are very clear on the priorities) In a message dated 4/22/2009 2:45:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jadeb...@aol.com writes: until I can afford a new computer **Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433404x1201394533/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubl eclick.net%2Fclk%3B214133109%3B36002181%3Bk) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Trimming posts
This message is from: "Lois Berenyi" Just a note from a neophyte. I tend to learn what I need to know for what I'm interested in on the computer, mostly using the internet. I don't know many of the fine points or even some of the essential functions of Windows. In times past I figured out how to delete messages and then got lazy. Upon experimenting again with all the (abbreviated) posts on this subject I learned one important thing to pass on to others like myself. DO NOT PRESS DELETE BEFORE PRESSING REPLY. You will lose all of it. I tried highlighting the message only and pressing Delete but lost the entire email. Also, I have Windows XP and the tabs in Tools are slightly different from what was mentioned. I think my tab said "send". Thanks to Dee Anna I went into my Tools, found the right checkmark and will no longer be guilty of including messages. This post is a shining example. Now I will just have to remember where it is if I want to include the message. Lois in NC still looking for horses on the 16th green. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2009 #84
This message is from: "igs4me tds.net" >can only hope that as breeders, we continue to look at ALL of the qualitys in our breeding prospects. If an individual Fjord is in the line-up for consideration as a breeding animal, than do your homework. Have them evaluated by trained evaluators. Take into consideration their TEMPORMENT and that of their own sires and dams. Become COLOR BLIND.. AMEN! And here's an eye opener for everyone who wants to breed that rare color: the public does NOT think they look like fjords. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I have had to explain that my red dun is actually a pure bred fjord. She looks like a fjord to me, but not to most other folks, not even to the horsey ones who should know breed type when they see it. I have a friend who wanted to buy a fjord, and I showed her a lovely white dun fjord gelding who was very well trained and everything she wanted. She took one look at his picture and said "why does he cost that much? He doesn't even LOOK like a fjord." Although those of us with a sincere passion for this breed enjoy the other colors, I can see them being a bit of a detriment if your goal is to sell outside of the little fjord community. Julie in Madison Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: CEM origin/ Importing
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" Frankly, in this more global economy, I > think it's cool that some folks are able to bring a variety of stock > into this country. > > Beth > Sounds nicely idealistic, and I'm all for freedom of choice and brotherly good will, but the ebb and flow of global marketing does financially impact the breed and those who have faithfully supported it. Importation further loads our present horse surplus head count. That's not sentiment, nor is it opinion, that's bare mathematical logic. Breed circumstances are not what they were SIXTY years ago, when the Morgan people needed imports. And yes, "all Fjords are the same" genetically speaking.. there can no longer be any UN-used Fjord genes anywhere in the world, particularly so in Europe where there has been longtime severe culling (evaluations) and over-use of selected single sires. Of course we presently have no way of formulating that without gene mapping, but according to basic genetic diversity 101 fundamentals, it is true. I cannot fault those who will (romantically) have a GENUINE imported Norwegian Fjord horse, it sounds good--like a Pepsi commercial. I like my German Shepherd dogs to have GENUINE German lineage, my Swedish Vallhund dogs to have GENUINE Swedish lineage, but they may not be superior to those lines already here, and it certainly doesn't mean that other GSD and SV breeders will appreciate my import efforts which took a bite out of their market, ha ha. As far as CEM origins, all credible sites claim that somehow, somewhere, it all stemmed from Europe.. it has simply been passed along to animals that were not imported, or through contaminants, as Curtis inferred. It is not inconceivable that the future may hold similar tragic occurrences through the introduction of imports, (eg: "mad cow disease" from Europe).. or, possibly even genetic anomalies, which would be irrevocably worse; as has happened in the past to other species where the intro of a satellite into the original corrupted breed integrity. Ruthie, nw mt, US Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Karen Keith's new filly
This message is from: Lori Albrough Karen Keith wrote: > What attracted me to this unproven foreign youngstock? I wanted a white dun. Congratulations! What is her pedigree? Does she go back to Eike's stallion Solbjør Borken? I fell in love with him in Norway. I'd love to see a picture of the filly too. Lori -- Lori Albrough Bluebird Lane Fjords R.R.#3 Moorefield Ont Canada N0G 2K0 phone: 519-638-5598 email: l...@bluebirdlane.com http://www.bluebirdlane.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: COLOR me Blue
This message is from: "Teressa" "We might be HARD learners but we don't ride the short bus." Lisa, you crack me up! Teressa Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
of course...totally predictable
This message is from: pedfjo...@aol.com Spring is here ! ha ha ha ha gottcha.; ) Its been snowing, then melting, then snowing, then melting. Opening car windows or turning on the air conditioning, then building a big fire in the wood stove at night. Upper 20's at night, then turning 80 * yesterday. Shedding ? Looks like a poodle convention exploded in my barn. My friend saw a beautiful bright red, yellow and black snake yesterday ( the good kind, wont kill a fellow, but takes care of her rodent problems ) and while letting the corgis out for a potty just now.I felt something crunchy ( not the good kind ) in my CROC shoe while jambing my foot into it. No socks. Of course. So the first SCORPIAN of the year has arrived. Right on time. Like most everything else this week, very predictable. ; ) Lisa BTW, its Lisa 1, Scorpian 0.If your counting. Yuk. ** Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433404x1201394533/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3 B214133109%3B36002181%3Bk) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Import/ and the lovely whites
This message is from: morrisshado...@aol.com Thank you for the story Karen. It was nice to hear. I also spent much $ and time making my purchase of my young unproven white . Which at this point he is developing quite nicely, both temperament and conformation.He has been trained handle daily. And yes it has been a lot of fun.I am sure your girl must be lovely! I'd love to see some pictures! And yes I also agree that quality should not be compromised for color.It does make since importing when you can't find it here.I just got lucky enough that one came along! Or I would have been looking overseas as well. When it comes to the browns that is a different agenda.It is too bad about the local breeder and their comment.I suppose everyone has a foot-in- their mouth moment at some point in their life.I wish you the greatest.And it would be nice to hear other breeders, buyers thoughts and stories as that was the intent of my original post! Bonnie Morris and Lordy of the Fjordies who is ready to go out on another adventure (he does not care that it is raining) Western, WA raining again! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
I cant find
This message is from: pedfjo...@aol.com Heathers post about exporting guinea pigs ! Waaa !!! I have a few questions about this. hello ? Lisa ** Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433404x1201394533/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214133109%3B36002181%3Bk) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Trimming posts
This message is from: "coy...@acrec.com" Fred: I am extremely familiar with the process of selecting text and deleting it as you described. In fact, if you will look back in yesterday's messages from this List, you will find a post from me that gave instructions that are even more detailed than yours. In my earlier post from today, I was following up on Laurie With's comment about creating a reply in AOL and Mac software. I merely wanted to inform people that Laurie's method, while it DOES work in AOL and Mac software, does NOT work in MS Outlook, MS Outlook Express, and Thunderbird. --DeeAnna Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: fjordhorse-digest V2009 #83
This message is from: CATHI GREATOREX Sounds like someone got a real buy with Joel's, ponies. And hope Larry was able to find a home for Grayson. "Grayson" was a "no sale" at the SFJ Auction Life is about relationships, the rest is just details Cathi Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Import Bashing - Was CEM and Supporting American Fjord Breeders
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" At 01:47 PM 4/22/2009, you wrote: >Mike May, I'll be sending my check to join the NFHR today if I can get the >printer working. Seems I've got some horses to register, hey? Sounds good Karen. We will be looking forward to having you as a new member. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:regist...@nfhr.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Trimming replies!?
This message is from: jadeb...@aol.com Hi All! Greetings from EXTREMELY low-tech Yellow Pony Farm! For those of us who haven't been able to get any of the many very wise and undoubtedly accurate message-trimming suggestions to work, there's always the old way of just wrting a fresh message and addressing it to _fjordho...@angus.com_ (mailto:fjordho...@angus.com) like it was an original. My computer (Nigel) is very old and very crabby so I've fallen back on this method which he seems willing to tolerate. All the other ideas sound really efficient but since Nigel continues to be grouchy and I don't know the difference anyway, I've decided to do it the old way until I can afford a new computer and lessons from my niece, the techno-warrior. And so, slowly but surely, I'm off to the barn. Kay and Braveheart, whose mane has grown back enough to have the cream part shortened again and Bogie, with enough mane to grab with both hands for up-hill canters **Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433404x1201394533/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubl eclick.net%2Fclk%3B214133109%3B36002181%3Bk) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: so predictable
This message is from: morrisshado...@aol.com Since when is asking questions not so bright and short sighted? How rude Ursula! Bonnie and Ruthie et al. .so predictable, so short sighted and not too bright... Bonnie Morris Western Wa Sun is trying to peek out:0) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
COLOR me Blue
This message is from: pedfjo...@aol.com In a message dated 4/21/2009 10:41:38 PM Mountain Daylight Time, owner-fjordhorse-dig...@angus.mystery.com writes: > it makes me > >wonder why one would buy young unproven stock from another country? > > Because the purchasers liked what they saw in the parents, or liked what > they saw in the youngstock themselves and because they could. Thank-you Beth. It makes no sense to argue over buying " unproven " young stock from other Countrys, when as breeders, we are BREEDING the same stock, one, two or maybe 3 short generations away from those Fjords who have just been IMPORTED by someone else. Especially, when I see people touting their cute fluffy weaners as " herd stallion " prospects, or selling sucklings as stallion quality. Since THEIR sires and dams are from Fjords who walked around in Norway .how is it that one more container of babies now instead of 10 or 20 years ago makes any difference ? THEY ARE ALL IMPORTED Fjords, right ? I have not seen too many Fjords used in old John Wayne movies. When I can sit and listen for hours to Phill Pritchard's storys about bringing back many many mares from Norway.and laugh my a$$ off at McWethys " Big Lift " tale with the drunk Jamacian pilots, all the Fjords tied up to the chain link fence on the tarmac and runways, OMG. I love to convince Orville and Anita to share storys about their many shopping trips to Norway and learn how 100's of quality Fjords, most with a bun in the oven, and their stallions, Orjjo, Rudaren, Leidjo ect. came to be here. 9 and the stallions that they PASSED on, now here many years, imported by someone else, ooops. ; ) * give Orville 2 Marguaritas and that one come up ! If people have any bloodlines of Grabb, Gjest, all of the Anvil's lines, letters like OHF, MVF, BDF, ect. ect. someone else just went shopping for you. They are IMPORTED linesand not too long ago. As someone who has been accused of " collecting " both Leidjo offspring, and Fjords of " color " lately, I confess. It comes with a burden however. Jeff and I used to raise horses of color and show in the Paint Horse world. We stupidly lined up our halter horses in futuritys on weekends with 50 horses and 3 judges placing them. If we paid whoever was " thehottestthinggoinginthepaintworldtrainer "200 bucks to lead our horse for 15 min. we won alot of pretty Blue ribbons. Every week. If we led her ourselves.we got the gate. Every week. Jeff was actually the bomb at standing a horse up, and looked awsome in his show stuff, so no worries there. It just worked like that. After experiencing that for a few years ( hard learners ) and along with the tragic genitic traites popping up ( lethal white foals who die in 2-3 days ) yet expected to follow the tradition of BREEDING this crap for COLOR, it stopped working for us. That, and a visit to the trophy shop and weighing those cheesy 2.00 ribbons and fake gold plastic 5.00 trophys, compared to huge entry fees, stabeling, drug fees, those 15 min. of trainer fees, junk food, gas to get there, well. We might be HARD learners but we dont ride the short bus. ; / Now.we have a few Fjords of rare colors. We are very lucky and excited to work with these young prospects daily and try to imagine how they will turn out. What I have decided NOT to do, is fall into the BREEDING FOR COLOR game like the Paint world taught us, that did nothing for bettering the breed. Ruined their breed in fact. Like when you can attend the WORLD APPY show and in the final line-up of Champion stallions, see NO color, not a spot, freckle, roaning, frosting, NOTHING, just Impressive looking blubber fat halter horses. The APPY's were bred for COLOR, and Chief Joseph must be rolling over double time at the nonsense they have created. It does alarm me to read about ponies under 6 months old being promoted as herd sires with high price tags, because of their rare color. It alarms me to hear about farms liquidating Fjords from their current breeding program, BECAUSE they are brown duns, and investing in very young stock for replacment breeding animals BECAUSE of their color. Cranking out 100's of Fjords with conformation and random faults like blazes, white socks ect. , now looking to breed for COLOR, ( their words ) is not going to help the breed standard. Esp. in puppy mill breeding programs, mass produced, bred back every year, Fjords. Small changes to improve quality does not begin and end with the COLOR of a horse. I fear in a couple of years what I expect to start seeing. Out of all 8 white, red and now yellow ( welcome SOLSKINN ! ) duns here, if what they turn out like as proven adults, remains to be seen. I might end up gelding the whole bunch of males, actually already started that trend when I gelded PF Phantom, a white dun colt, our breeding. He had it all going on with bloodlines I like, proven evaluate
RE: Import Bashing - Was CEM and Supporting American Fjord Breeders
This message is from: Karen Keith For those who care, here goes. What attracted me to this unproven foreign youngstock? I wanted a white dun. That narrows the field drastically, as I'm sure you know, Bonnie, having been there yourself. So much for thousands of Fjords. Even at thousands, what percentage are for sale at any given time? Being able to look outside our borders increases the possibilities. With my foreign import, I was able to visit the farm and see several white duns from foals at side to yearlings, 2yos, 3yos, on up to the sire. I like having choice. I guess that's clear in my previous post. :^) I was able to have it in spades. Additionally, Eike and Suse Schoen-Petersen are long-time Fjord breeders, incredibly knowledgeable of international Fjord bloodlines, great conversationalists and just plain good folk. If you ask Eike a question, you're definitely going to get a full, complete and thoughtful answer and learn way more than you ever expected, whether it's Fjords, cattle, pigs, veterinary, Germany and Europe in general, and even the US. Good fun. Am I a breeder? I guess that depends on how this unproven foreign youngstock works out. But no, not up to now. Am I touchy? Yes, I suppose so. I've just made a huge purchase, some might say a gamble but all horses are a gamble, and I react to terms like "unproven" imported youngstock. How proven is any weanling horse? I guess we can look to its pedigree and parents' records. My filly's dam placed 1st in her 30-day performance test for Fjord mares as a 5yo in Germany. Okay, that's a plus. Last year, as a 13yo, she was declared overall champion horse at a Fjord show (70 horses) in northern Germany near the Danish border. Another plus. Eike recently regaled us with the results of my filly's sire at both Equitana and the German Jubilee Stallion Show at Essen a month or so ago. Plus, plus, plus. Finally, my filly has a record in her own right. As just a wobbly week-old baby, she scored highest of seven Fjord foals at the Fjord branding. Big fish, small pond, but definitely a plus. Then she went on several weeks later to place second in her filly class at the same show where her mama was champion. Again, plus. So is my import unproven? You bet she is. As was your little guy when you brought him home. What's the difference? A few thousand miles in transport when you come down to it. We have high hopes, but let's face it, all horses are a crapshoot. But she is a white dun, and that's what I wanted. And like you and your little guy, I believe my filly will some day be a positive influence on the gene pool of the American Fjord. Only time will tell. Good luck to us both. Finally, I was told by one American breeder, after hearing I was importing, that I was buying a pig in a poke. That put me off even looking at his stock, and I was in the market for a domestic Fjord as well. Found one last week, by the way, but had to go pretty far afield again, just not outside the country. So now I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of my little "piggy" and her domestic but unproven companion who will act as her nanny while she's growing up. Mike May, I'll be sending my check to join the NFHR today if I can get the printer working. Seems I've got some horses to register, hey? Cheers! Karen, No. VA _ View photos of singles in your area Click Here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fdating%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2 Fchannel%2Findex%2Easpx%3Ftrackingid%3D1046247&_t=773166080&_r=Hotmail_Endtex t&_m=EXT Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Import/Exports
This message is from: morrisshado...@aol.com I liked your guine pig story!It is also interesting how when reading a topic people only pick out a piece or 2 that suit their needs and don't follow the whole discussion. PS. I also am a Mogly Fan (only seen pic and video) , but he was well worth importing.Lovely Lovely stallion! Bonnie Morris Western WA Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Import/Exports
This message is from: Karen Keith Wow, Heather, exporting Guinea pigs! Who knew! Isn't it funny the different worlds we never knew existed but get a glimpse of in the most unexpected places. I found your post fascinating, and now my day is complete as I've learned something new. Cheers! Karen, No. VA Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Trimming posts
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" DeeAnna, With Outlook and Outlook Express (I know nothing about Thunderbird...sorry) after you hit reply, click your mouse cursor where you with to start editing/deleting. Then while holding down the LEFT mouse button, drag it across all the text that you do NOT want to send. Hit deletepoof it is gone. You can highlight parts of the original message in segments, and delete portions one at a time. Note in the edited text below. I have removed most of the header information, leaving only "On Behalf Of coy...@acrec.com" to identify to whom, and to what subject I am replying to. I left the subject: "Trimming Posts". Then left only enough of your message to indicate that the prior suggestion did not work on those programs. You can then place your reply above or below the remaining text. This way you will see exactly what you would send BEFORE you hit the send key. If satisfied, hit send... Hope this helps... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 On Behalf Of coy...@acrec.com Subject: Re: Trimming posts I did a quick check with Mozilla Thunderbird, MS Outlook, and MS Outlook Express. This method does not appear to work for these email programs. --DeeAnna Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
infectious disease
This message is from: "safreivald" "It occurs to me, from this piece that you have shared, that the most comprehensive control of this infectious disease is to STOP European importation, is that not correct?" I would say that it most certainly NOT correct. The most comprehensive control of this infectious disease is to practice sterile technique religiously when breeding/collecting, etc. Includes cleaning of horses, equipment (all equipment), environment and personnel. That's a little like saying the most comprehensive control of post surgical infections would be to eliminate hospitals/surgeries.Just a comment from a medical provider's point of view. No hard feelings, please. Introduction of handwashing by Semmelweis went a long way to eliminating childbirth fever, it didn't take eliminating childbirth :~). Sue F. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: so predictable
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" To come out with a comment like this is beneath contempt... Fred On Behalf Of Ursula & Brian Jensen Subject: so predictable Bonnie and Ruthie et al. .so predictable, so short sighted and not too bright... Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: From the List Admin: READ THIS (or else)
This message is from: "Jo Wilgus" What is it that is so hard to comprehend? I have been guilty of this. It was an innocent mistake. Friends send me jokes with every person they have sent the message to. I delete all the names previous and send (if i find it funny.) I think people do not mean to be direspectful. Maybe one more "how to do it" would be helpful to some. Now ,I hope I sent this correctly . Have a great day all. Jo Wilgus Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Trimming posts
This message is from: "coy...@acrec.com" ...all i have to do is highlight a line or two before i click the "reply" key. then all that shows up is the highlighted lines, not the entire message I did a quick check with Mozilla Thunderbird, MS Outlook, and MS Outlook Express. This method does not appear to work for these email programs. --DeeAnna Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
so predictable
This message is from: "Ursula & Brian Jensen" Bonnie and Ruthie et al. .so predictable, so short sighted and not too bright...Just finished loading those well bred (with integrity and attention to detail) gorgeous fillies on the trailer for their last leg of their journey home. Just think, Ruthie, when Europe runs short in the gene pool, we in N.A. will still have a ways to go and they may just come calling for some buy backs...good economics me thinks I swore I was not going to get into this discussion cause like Karen said 'free market' etc and protectionism just is not very smart in the long haul. Ursula ok so I bit but for the last time. Ursula and Brian Jensen 1903 Trinity Valley Rd. Lumby, B.C. Canada V0E 2G4 ujen...@junction.net www.trinityfjords.com www.trinityfjords.blogspot.ca Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Trimming
This message is from: Emily Wigley If I do post anything on the list again which I doubt, I will be more careful. Sally Sally, do post again! We're all learning lots of things in life! Imagine if we didn't ever go down a certain trail for fear our Fjord would spook there again. Or never tried to canter again because the horse got the wrong lead once or twice! Please: post! I don't like scrolling, and maybe our dear listowner is trimming like crazy behind the scenes, but honestly, it's not that bad in my opinion. I know how to use the arrow keys or mouse to scroll, and I think everyone else does too. If I'm too busy and feel insanely compelled to read every word I'll just do it tomorrow, or delete it and know I can go to the archives if I realize I really missed something. Mistakes happen! What's the phrase? To err is human, to forgive divine. Emily :-) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Streamlining e-mails
This message is from: Steve McIlree Robin Churchill wrote: Our chow list somehow has it set up that when you reply, none of the previous e-mail goes with it. Unfortunately, the way replies are formatted is the job of the email program and the person who is using it. As far as I know there is no way to control it from the server end, unless you can only access the list through a Web site. -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: trimming posts
This message is from: Ellen Barry you wrote: If I do post anything on the list again which I doubt, I will be more careful. Sally Answer: Sally, this is not just about your 1 or 2 messages. This is about many people, writing many messages and including all the previous messages. (sometimes an entire digest) So try not to take it too personal. So feel free to post; just do us a favor and do what Steve asks. We're not trying to pick on you. Ellen. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2009 #83
This message is from: crystal...@aol.com In a message dated 4/21/09 11:41:38 PM, owner-fjordhorse-dig...@angus.mystery.com writes: > Tom is using Microsoft Outlook. > > > Most email software programs are similar in how you trim an old message. > Here's how: > i use AOL and sometimes macintosh's email. all i have to do is highlight a line or two before i click the "reply" key. then all that shows up is the highlighted lines, not the entire message. i have to think that would work with other mail programs also. laurie ** Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433404x1201394533/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad .doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214133109%3B36002181%3Bk) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Streamlining e-mails
This message is from: Robin Churchill Our chow list somehow has it set up that when you reply, none of the previous e-mail goes with it. They probably had the same problem with the digest and decided to just take the option of not trimming away. Robin in Florida Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: round pens
This message is from: katesei...@aol.com Oh boy do I know that "sparkle" - what a nice word for it!! It was my last afternoon of dealing with the sparkle that drove me over the purchasing edge since I've been limping for close to a week. Nice to know about the footing - we have excellent ground here - so I will probably wait on the footing to see what works best for me. But I'll remember not to overpurchase. I can always add more! Kate *** In a message dated 4/21/2009 11:49:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, minih...@hotmail.com writes: Loki would lounge nicely for a few rounds then get a sparkle in his eye & take off, knowing that he is stronger than me. **Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433404x1201394533/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubl eclick.net%2Fclk%3B214133109%3B36002181%3Bk) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
