RE: Blanketing Fjords?
This message is from: "Teressa" Only in my mind's eye. We actually went to a clinic with her colored like that. TK -Original Message- From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Melinda Schumacher Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 6:29 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Blanketing Fjords? This message is from: Melinda Schumacher Do you have a picture of the Pink Pony? I would love to see that! Melinda Granville OH On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Teressa wrote: > This message is from: "Teressa" > > > the red wool cooler is > history. It absorbed the sweat but turned her pink. Teressa (about 10 > miles south of the Canadian border and about 5 miles from Puget Sound). > > - > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Blanketing Fjords?
This message is from: Melinda Schumacher Do you have a picture of the Pink Pony? I would love to see that! Melinda Granville OH On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Teressa wrote: > This message is from: "Teressa" > > > the red wool cooler is > history. It absorbed the sweat but turned her pink. Teressa (about 10 > miles south of the Canadian border and about 5 miles from Puget Sound). > > - > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Blanketing Fjords?
This message is from: "Teressa" Well, I live in the Great Northwet. My ponies at home who are not getting worked are completely fine with their own fur for either hard rain or snow. We have lots of wind as well. They do have shelters they can run in to. So no blankets at home. The fjords that are in work have to be clipped in the winter - they get so hot and sweaty with those thick coats and it takes hours for them to dry and they are wet from the skin out from the sweat. So we trace clip and blanket - I have rain sheets, mid weight blankets and heavy weight blankets. One fall my mare was so wet from exertion that I put a red wool cooler on her first to absorb the sweat. She was a pink fjord for some period of weeks after. Needless to say, the red wool cooler is history. It absorbed the sweat but turned her pink. Teressa (about 10 miles south of the Canadian border and about 5 miles from Puget Sound). -Original Message- From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Theresa Christiansen Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 1:40 PM To: fjordhorse digest Subject: Fwd: Blanketing Fjords? This message is from: Theresa Christiansen What about in wet, wet, wet Western Washington? Begin forwarded message: > From: Moira Sambey > Date: November 11, 2010 10:43:45 PM PST > To: fjordhorse digest > Subject: Blanketing Fjords? > Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > This message is from: Moira Sambey > > > Is anybody blanketing their Fjords at pasture??? > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f > > Theresa Christiansen Little Rock Farm t...@littlerockfarm.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: blanketing
This message is from: Theresa Christiansen Thanks, Debby! On Nov 12, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Debby wrote: > This message is from: "Debby" > > > I've not ever lived in Washington state but have visited with some of the > dressage barns, and they seem to mention more about rain blankets than > anything. I'd think one would still have to worry about rain leaking at the > seams, and if they get wet and cold, especially under a blanket, is not good. > Then they get chilled. And if one sweats under a blanket, gets wet and then > it turns coat, they will chill. You do have to be very watchful. If they get > wet and chilled without a blanket/raincoat, and are shivering, then they need > to be brought in and a cooler under a stable blanket, and dried, with some hay > to help warm them from the inside out. > I know many that have run in shelters, but I've seen a herd leader allow only > their "friends" in and the others are standing out in the storm. > One use to see the old turnout blankets, the "canvas" type more, with a fleece > lining, but I don't believe I've seen them in years, they seemed to do a > pretty good job of keeping one dry and warm. > Debby in Tx > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f > > Theresa Christiansen Little Rock Farm t...@littlerockfarm.com 425 788 2358 206 972 7222 cell Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Blanketing? Hirsuite is their strong suit!
This message is from: Theresa Christiansen Great! Thanks! You've confirmed that I haven't been torturing my kids! I have five fjords and a Missouri Fox Trotter, who hates rain! I do bring them in at night when it's really nasty, probably more for my benefit than theirs. Theresa On Nov 12, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Karen McCarthy wrote: > This message is from: Karen McCarthy > > > I guess I'll chime in on the blanketing issue. My take on it is this: unless > you are really using your horses in steady work over the winter, and clip them > so they can cool & dry off, then yes, you should blanket them. > Otherwise NO, this breed of horse does not need a blanket! I'd even go so far > as to say Fjords have their own, built in blankets. Maybe we need to add this > slogan to promote thier hardiness: "hirsuite is their strong suit" (!) > We live in USDA z. 4-5 & my 5 mares ranging from 3-25 years old live outside > 24/7 w/o going inside a 'real' barn. They use the barn & treeline as a wind > break, and if I feel particularly "sorry" for them on a cold, rainy night I > will open up the two 12' x 24' stalls I have at one end of the barn that are > usually reserved to feed two of the plushest ones thier dinner rations. Then I > get to clean up after one heck of a poop party the next morning... > > > > :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon :: > > > > > http://www.picturetrail.com/weegees > > > > >> From: t...@littlerockfarm.com >> Subject: Fwd: Blanketing Fjords? >> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:39:51 -0800 >> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >> >> This message is from: Theresa Christiansen >> >> >> What about in wet, wet, wet Western Washington? > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f > > Theresa Christiansen Little Rock Farm t...@littlerockfarm.com 425 788 2358 206 972 7222 cell Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Blanketing Fjords?
This message is from: Theresa Christiansen Thanks! Theresa On Nov 12, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Carol Makosky wrote: > This message is from: Carol Makosky > > > I would go by how cold it is and if they are soaked to the skin & perhaps shivering. Maybe let or keep your Fjord in for the night to let them get dry. or use a wool or fleece type cooler to wick away the moisture & keep changing or drying it as it gets wet. > > On 11/12/10 3:39 PM, Theresa Christiansen wrote: >> This message is from: Theresa Christiansen >> >> >> What about in wet, wet, wet Western Washington? >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Moira Sambey >>> Date: November 11, 2010 10:43:45 PM PST >>> To: fjordhorse digest >>> Subject: Blanketing Fjords? >>> Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >>> >>> This message is from: Moira Sambey >>> >>> >>> Is anybody blanketing their Fjords at pasture??? >>> >>> Important FjordHorse List Links: >>> Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e >>> FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw >>> Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f >>> >>> >> Theresa Christiansen >> >> Little Rock Farm >> t...@littlerockfarm.com >> >> Important FjordHorse List Links: >> Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e >> FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw >> Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f >> >> >> >> > > > -- > "God forbid that I should go to any heaven in which there are no horses." > R.B. Cunningham Graham > > Built Fjord Tough > Carol M. > On Golden Pond > N. Wisconsin > Home of Heidi, > The Wonder Pony > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f > > Theresa Christiansen Little Rock Farm t...@littlerockfarm.com 425 788 2358 206 972 7222 cell Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Blanketing? Hirsuite is their strong suit!
This message is from: Karen McCarthy I guess I'll chime in on the blanketing issue. My take on it is this: unless you are really using your horses in steady work over the winter, and clip them so they can cool & dry off, then yes, you should blanket them. Otherwise NO, this breed of horse does not need a blanket! I'd even go so far as to say Fjords have their own, built in blankets. Maybe we need to add this slogan to promote thier hardiness: "hirsuite is their strong suit" (!) We live in USDA z. 4-5 & my 5 mares ranging from 3-25 years old live outside 24/7 w/o going inside a 'real' barn. They use the barn & treeline as a wind break, and if I feel particularly "sorry" for them on a cold, rainy night I will open up the two 12' x 24' stalls I have at one end of the barn that are usually reserved to feed two of the plushest ones thier dinner rations. Then I get to clean up after one heck of a poop party the next morning... :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon :: http://www.picturetrail.com/weegees > From: t...@littlerockfarm.com > Subject: Fwd: Blanketing Fjords? > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:39:51 -0800 > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > This message is from: Theresa Christiansen > > > What about in wet, wet, wet Western Washington? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Fwd: Blanketing Fjords?
This message is from: Carol Makosky I would go by how cold it is and if they are soaked to the skin & perhaps shivering. Maybe let or keep your Fjord in for the night to let them get dry. or use a wool or fleece type cooler to wick away the moisture & keep changing or drying it as it gets wet. On 11/12/10 3:39 PM, Theresa Christiansen wrote: This message is from: Theresa Christiansen What about in wet, wet, wet Western Washington? Begin forwarded message: From: Moira Sambey Date: November 11, 2010 10:43:45 PM PST To: fjordhorse digest Subject: Blanketing Fjords? Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com This message is from: Moira Sambey Is anybody blanketing their Fjords at pasture??? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Theresa Christiansen Little Rock Farm t...@littlerockfarm.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f -- "God forbid that I should go to any heaven in which there are no horses." R.B. Cunningham Graham Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin Home of Heidi, The Wonder Pony Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fwd: Blanketing Fjords?
This message is from: Theresa Christiansen What about in wet, wet, wet Western Washington? Begin forwarded message: > From: Moira Sambey > Date: November 11, 2010 10:43:45 PM PST > To: fjordhorse digest > Subject: Blanketing Fjords? > Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > This message is from: Moira Sambey > > > Is anybody blanketing their Fjords at pasture??? > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f > > Theresa Christiansen Little Rock Farm t...@littlerockfarm.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Lots of Fjords out there
This message is from: Linda Lottie
Oh gosh, Amy..and I would not want to sell a horse to someone who does not
get it that the cost of the horse is the least of the expense.
To ask someone to sell a $6500 horse (and well worth it from your description)
for $1000 is insulting and, dare I say, stupid???
Tells me the buyer is in a dream world.LOL
Linda in WI where my fjords are out in the pasture all day eating dried up
2010 grass. They LOVE IT.LOL Don't want to come in at night.haha
> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
> Subject: Re: Lots of Fjords out there
> From: fjord...@aol.com
> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 11:58:25 -0500
>
> This message is from: Amy Evers
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave and Patti Walter
> To: fjordhorse
> Sent: Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:34 am
> Subject: Lots of Fjords out there
>
>
> This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter"
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>
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> A good trained Fjord will sell! And probably quickly.
>
>
>
> The problem I have is getting anyone to actually come out to see the horses
in
> the first place. All the Calls/Emails I've gotten just want to know how
much
> I'll come down on my prices - they won't even consider looking at a horse
> first.
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>
> I had on woman tell me she really wants a WELL BROKE Fjord ("Bomb Proof"
were
> her words) for her husband to ride, and she would also like something that
she
> might breed as well. OK... I have a 16 year old Evaluated Mare that rides
and
> drives, that is also a proven brood mare, I told her I was asking $6500 but
> might be open for negotiation if they want to come and see her and talk to
> me... She says that the mare sounds like JUST what she's looking for - will
I
> take $1000? Her budget is $1500 and that has to include saddle and tack
too.
> That's not negotiating, that's insulting.
>
> Maybe it has to do with geography, I don't know. Now that the winter rain
has
> set in, selling is pretty hopeless for this year - horses are all long
haired
> and muddy...
>
> Amy
> (In depressing, rainy, gloomy Western Oregon.)
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> Amy Evers
> Dun Lookin' Fjords
> Cottage Grove OR 97424
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RE: Going....going....gone.
This message is from: Julia Webb A-MEN, Lisa. I'm not a seller (of horses, anyway), but as a once-and-future buyer, I'm always astounded at how agravated sellers get when I ask for video of a horse doing the things they say they can do. You say bombproof? I want to see you catch, tie, curry, and work the horse. I want to see them trailered. I want to see hoses and water, feet picked, etc. These are just basics. Trained? I don't need 5 minutes of the same trot gait set to your favorite song. I want to see transitions, changes of direction, obstacles. Pictures? I care about conformation. Tacked up is nice, but include all sides on a level surface in good light with no tack, please. Anyway... I'll stop ranting. ;-) Suffice to say, I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiment, Lisa. Keep up the good work. -Julia Webb Wellington, CO...soon to be Nickerson, KS > From: pedfjo...@aol.com > What has helped me sell mine also has been the videos showing what we > advertise them to do. You can TELL people one thing about your Fjords quiet > nature and ability to ride in tough terraine, but showing them a 5 min. U-Tube > video of the horse climbing hills, being untacked then tacked back up, out on > the open space of a 5000 acre park with no header.sure helps. If you say > the Fjords drives.ok then film 3-4 videos pulling them out, grooming, > feet, harnessing process, then drive off. Go through what they do, then pull > the cart and harness, throw on a saddle and ride off. Do walk, trot(s) > canter then end by floating them into a trailer. Dont edit out the parts where > they yank away a foot. Dont edit out the parts where your corgi's come > charging up underneigh. Also, dont edit out the parts where an empty hog semi > truck blows by going 50, and they hardly notice. Or your rider almost pulling > off the saddle because they used a too long cinch. Show it all. Show how your > horse reacts to clipping, being tied alone, loading. Use your hose and > flood a big puddle for them to walk through. People who have had a horse that > does not go well into water will look hard at one who does. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
blanketing
This message is from: "Debby" We'd had to clip Amber, even being on pergolide, her coat is/was thick in the back, over her hips, belly, on her legs, but almost like a terrier dog in the front...and then so thick on her face/head. We'd still had some really warm days here, and even the nights aren't so cool right now. So we blanket when it is cooler, but she is in a stall at night. If the weather is nice, she has access to her run. If its not so cold, she can have a heat light on. With Ynde, we are going to visit a training facility tomorrow, and I'd think they will clip her, as in Texas and working the fjords with coats, especially to help the horse that is out of shape, clip and blanket. And she'll spend her nights in a stall too. For us too, its just easier, we don't have to worry so much about them getting dirty, they stay cleaner and if they do have a day out and get dirty, much easier to clean, and if we have to bathe, they dry quick. It really just depends on what one is doing with them and the situation with each fjord. Shivering is never good. Thanks for all of the great information about fjords and breeding and selling. I believe its very important too, for the fjords to have good training on them, even the younger ones being sold, should know leading, tying them, trailering, vet and farrier manners. I'd gone back and forth about Miss Ynde, having lost Lang and there is no other Lang, I've had to accept that. Ynde is Ynde, and I don't want to give up on her. I'd had thoughts of putting her in training and selling her/placing her, as I'd not ever let her go without a solid work ethic. But I will take lessons at this place and see how I feel and I hope that Ynde and I can become "partners". Debby in Tx p.s. my concern is Amber, the older one, 22yrs.old, her being here by herself, wonder how she'll do, if its something she'll eventually be ok with. I don't want to get anything else right now, we've our place still for sale, who knows where we'll end up. She'll be fine during the days I'm sure, I leave the barn doors open, she has access to her stall and can and will go in the barn if it rains...its the nights that will worry me. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Going....going....gone.
This message is from: pedfjo...@aol.com In a message dated 11/12/2010 12:05:11 AM Mountain Standard Time, owner-fjordhorse-dig...@angus.mystery.com writes: > The economy might not be good, but I > think good people are still looking for good horses. I get many calls and > emails and I enjoy so much talking with the people. I know the fjord > breed > can thrive in this economy...the fjords are a great breed and we are in a > specialized market and people are looking for the type of horse that we > are > offering. It is very exciting! > Have to agree with Debbie on this one. Having just sold 3 Fjords and getting several inquiries now about my mare, the Fjords remain a very special breed that people are looking for. There is one huge difference in the Fjords I notice selling along with the ones I put on the market lately. Its TRAINING. Yes, there are lots of Fjords out there for sale as there is every fall, but overall the people calling me want basically the same critter. TRAINED and out there doing it. Not nessessarly showing, but hitting the trails, doing playdays, out hunting with hubby, packing granny up the mountian. Driving single and in a pair. Doing a local parade. Not just eating and pooping for a living. People can AFJORD <-- ha ha to be picky right now with so many good ones around. If you have what they are looking for, they are buying. The 3 that I just sold all rode and drove, but all 3 buyers just wanted riding skills. This does not mean that those driving abilitys and training time will be wasted, as I think that a good solid driving Fjord is showing the temperment to ride even better. Anyone knows that your basic y haaa spook while on their back can be quickly managed, but even a big hop / skip / jump while hitched can result in carnage. I will keep training our sales prospects to drive AND ride..its for sure not excess training anyway. What has helped me sell mine also has been the videos showing what we advertise them to do. You can TELL people one thing about your Fjords quiet nature and ability to ride in tough terraine, but showing them a 5 min. U-Tube video of the horse climbing hills, being untacked then tacked back up, out on the open space of a 5000 acre park with no header.sure helps. If you say the Fjords drives.ok then film 3-4 videos pulling them out, grooming, feet, harnessing process, then drive off. Go through what they do, then pull the cart and harness, throw on a saddle and ride off. Do walk, trot(s) canter then end by floating them into a trailer. Dont edit out the parts where they yank away a foot. Dont edit out the parts where your corgi's come charging up underneigh. Also, dont edit out the parts where an empty hog semi truck blows by going 50, and they hardly notice. Or your rider almost pulling off the saddle because they used a too long cinch. Show it all. Show how your horse reacts to clipping, being tied alone, loading. Use your hose and flood a big puddle for them to walk through. People who have had a horse that does not go well into water will look hard at one who does. Almost anyone can buy a camcorder now, but you can borrow or even rent one, super cheap. The videos we have done are TERRIBLE quality, but we keep getting better at our end ( use a tripod, dont film into a setting sun ect. ) If you say that your Fjord is broke to ignore most of everything, then go get your neighborhood skateboarders.rent some basketball players with a backboard, do some wheelies around a bored Fjord with your ATV. Show people what you have and what you have worked so hard on. I also think that location and shipping is an important factor. If you can offer to transport them for gas expenses, you tend to get full price offers. Offer a vet check ! We have 4-5 equine vets here and by giving the list with their phone numbers for prospective buyers shows people that you believe the Fjord will pass the vet check. If you have someone else working the horse, provide their contact information so the buyer can pick their brains as well. Provide a list of dates they were last vacinated, wormed, had their teeth floated. Offer to release all vet records on that horse. People want healthy, sound of mind and body, trained Fjords who are being kept up on their skills, currently. Of course, pictures of them out doing dressage, herding sheep over the mountian, driving down the streets in traffic, jumping, doing pole bending with the kids, ect. all helps to market them. Most of all, get out with them and keep up the skills. Even if you are marketing a youngster, you can show them being caught, groomed, trimming their manes, clipping, picking up all 4, leading, loading and unloading quietly, being ponied and tied up, hobbled ect. No one wants a youngster that they have to wrestle and hog tie to put in a trailer. Im exausted. Off to play with my hairy herd.Happy Sales !
blanketing Fjords
This message is from: "Rose or Murph" Hi, I don't blanket very often. I have checked on many rainy days. I lift the fluff of hair up and it is dry at the roots! I will blanket for a day, sometimes when it has been extremely wet, and if we get a cold icy wind with the rain. My horses have free access to their stalls 24/7 and will use them when it turns really nasty. I used to blanket my Fjord, however many a time it was getting ripped off, stomped on, and anything around the neck area rubbed and ripped. I think she was trying to tell me something! My mare is still young, with senior citizens I do tend to blanket them. Rosemary in Roy, wa. I think I see sun! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
A few items...
This message is from: "Jeanne" Hi Everyone, Can't believe Thanksgiving is less than two weeks away. We've finally received some cooler weather, thank goodness for my ponies who have all been standing in their winter jackets in the 80 degree Fall weather. They're happy now! A few things I wanted to pass along: Since the NFHR no longer requires the Annual Stallion Breeders report to be filed with our Office, make sure you've got a veterinary certificate on file with us, to get your stallion included in the Winter issue of the Herald, the Stallion Issue. The deadline for these is Dec 1st. The form is downloadable from the NFHR.com website, in the online forms. Don't forget to check the NFHR.com website from time to time to see new additions to both Phil Odden's blog, as well as Lisa Pedersen's musings (which was recently updated). Also, if anyone is a or knows of a veterinarian or farrier who is well versed in fjord care, I'd like to talk to them about also writing fjord care related articles for the website, as well. Please contact me if you've got any suggestions. For your 2010 foals who are getting near the 6 month age, get your registrations in before they turn 6 months, and save some money. I'm getting horses registered in 2 weeks turnaround time, that time includes DNA testing (for owners who submit their DNA samples right away)! Visit the NFHR.com website to learn about and register for the 2011 Education Forum & 30th Anniversary Celebration, Retirement for Mike May and Face to Face Meeting, in Tennessee! Enjoy the Holidays! Jeanne Poirier NFHR Registrar Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Lots of Fjords out there
This message is from: Amy Evers
-Original Message-
From: Dave and Patti Walter
To: fjordhorse
Sent: Fri, Nov 12, 2010 5:34 am
Subject: Lots of Fjords out there
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter"
A good trained Fjord will sell! And probably quickly.
The problem I have is getting anyone to actually come out to see the horses in
the first place. All the Calls/Emails I've gotten just want to know how much
I'll come down on my prices - they won't even consider looking at a horse
first.
I had on woman tell me she really wants a WELL BROKE Fjord ("Bomb Proof" were
her words) for her husband to ride, and she would also like something that she
might breed as well. OK... I have a 16 year old Evaluated Mare that rides and
drives, that is also a proven brood mare, I told her I was asking $6500 but
might be open for negotiation if they want to come and see her and talk to
me... She says that the mare sounds like JUST what she's looking for - will I
take $1000? Her budget is $1500 and that has to include saddle and tack too.
That's not negotiating, that's insulting.
Maybe it has to do with geography, I don't know. Now that the winter rain has
set in, selling is pretty hopeless for this year - horses are all long haired
and muddy...
Amy
(In depressing, rainy, gloomy Western Oregon.)
Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Cottage Grove OR 97424
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2010 Secret Santa
This message is from: Cynthia Madden With crappy job, knee issues and new roof shopping, I totally spaced getting things out for this year's Secret Santa. So here's the deal: *Sign up before Dec. 1* and I will get assignments made for this year. Sorry for the short sign up period, but I know people have enjoyed it in past year's and I don't want to dissapoint. I will send out more reminders. *Here are the details. PLEASE ALL SEND THE INFORMATION REQUESTED. Send your info to*: cynthia.mad...@gmail.com Please remember these guidelines for a successful Secret Santa: 1. If you accept an assignment, you must see it through or someone will be very disappointed. 2. Suggested gift/s expense is +/- $25. 3. You may send clues about your identity to your SS recipient via the Head Elf who will post them to the list to protect your identify. 4. Gifts should be received by Christmas, if there is a delay, please notify the Head Elf. 5. When you receive your gift/s, please make sure to promptly thank your Secret Santa and acknowledge its receipt. 6. If you cannot complete your Secret Assignment, please contact the Head Elf immediately. Name: Address (for shipping) CITY: ST: ZIP: Telephone (for UPS), etc): Your most wanted Christmas Gift/s for Yourself (Include your apparel size) Your Fjord/s:: Yours in Secret Santadom Head Secret Santa Elf -- Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM cynt...@carriagehorse.com http://highmesafjords.yolasite.com/ No philosophers so thoroughly comprehend us as dogs and horses. ~Herman Melville, Redburn. His First Voyage, 1849 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Lots of Fjords out there
This message is from: Linda Lottie Patti..well said!!! Linda in WIsnow comingno blankets hereboth fjords are wley :)Yes, I have did have a third fjord."Hasse" is now owned by my daughter, Anneand boarded near St Paul MNHasse was my gift to her..graduation from vet school :)He is a lucky fjord!!! > From: dwal...@tm.net > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Subject: Lots of Fjords out there > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 07:22:08 -0600 > > This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" > > > Thought I'd give my 2 cents worth on the topic of "lots of fjords for sale". > I would agree with Deb Ulrich, Fjords are still selling and for a good > price. The market is soft, folks are VERY careful about spending any extra > money but a good horse will always sell and in the Fjord World, there are > MANY good horses. Now, young ones, untrained ones, problem ones, out of > shape, not in good condition or training won't sell well and won't sell for > top dollar. A top dollar horse has to be in top condition, that it is > physically in top condition plus in its training. It must also have a good > pedigree, good movement and good disposition, anything lacking and it won't > get top dollar. Also, sorry to say it, but many DON'T know how to market > their horse. AND, I hate to say it, but there are poor quality Fjords out > there. Not as many as good ones, but there are those that breed anything and > everything and then don't take care for them in quality feed and quality > training. > > > > Also, another thing I would say that I disagree with you on is, "there is > NOT a lot of Fjords out there for sale". If you are looking for a specific > Fjord, one that has a bit more training and need a few characteristics met > it's gona be hard to find. Or if you are looking for a certain > color/age/gender it is harder to find. The more you have specifics, the > narrower your list of available Fjords are. A good trained Fjord will sell! > And probably quickly. > > > > We are still a VERY rare breed, we have not changed in numbers a whole lot > over the last 10 yrs. I got into Fjords in '94 and what I see is the buyers > now is REALLY careful about buying. 15 yrs ago, all you had to do was have > a Fjord for sale and it was sold, now.. Buyers are smarter and comparative > shop a lot more. They realize not every Fjord is a good one and they want a > good one. I say , "GOOD FOR THEM". This might help some folks think twice > before they breed. The GOOD breeders should still be breeding, or we will > have a shortage in 4-5 yrs. But, we need ONLY good Fjords! > > > > Pretty condensed reply, but I have to get going and just wanted to toss out > my 2 cents on the subject. I have sold 18 this year, last 3 yrs I have sold > 23-25 each year. So, yes numbers are down but also folks did not send me as > many horses to sell for them. Those owners who did, were very happy, the > horses sold, Folks are still looking. I KNOW if I would have gotten more > good Fjords in on consignment they would have sold. > > > > Patti Jo Walter > > Francis Creek Fjords > > Two Rivers WI > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2010 #176
This message is from: Sue Freivald Re: blanketing Fjords. When we lived in NY near Lake Ontario and had their serious winter snows and low temperatures, my unblanketed Fjord generally stood outside with snow piled a foot high on his back rather than go into a shelter. His specialized hair/fur so insulated him that that snow didn't melt from his body heat :~). He loved/loves the cold weather. When we moved to northern VA and I had to board him, the owner of the boarding facility (field board) required blankets and she personally put them on and took them off per weather requirements on the 30+ horses. (same with fly masks -- wonderful place to board!) After two years, including some rather unusual winters for this area (ie longer cold, more snow), she asked if I would mind if she didn't blanket him any more :~). BTW she is an equine vet in a large practice in this area. This spring, I purchased a second Fjord -- any awesome 4 year old mare out of VP Solveig by Prydarson -- and asked if I need to buy her a blanket -- my owner/vet laughed and said, no. The Fjords are all ready shaggy yaks as is the one Icelandic cross that is now at the same facility -- the rest of the thin skinned ones may very well need blanketing if it gets really cold, especially since the fields are high and windy. The run-in sheds are well placed, the automatic waterers function well all year, the horses are fed and observed twice every day, and not one but two equine vets live on the property. And they are wonderful, caring, giving folks who work really hard to be sure our horses and we are safe and have opportunities to enjoy. 330 acres with a large outdoor arena and miles, literally, of trails through the woods, creek crossings, hay fields to drive/ride around, and other good folks to do it all with! Can you tell that I feel particularly blessed? And back to the blankets. Nope. Sue F. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Lots of Fjords out there
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" Thought I'd give my 2 cents worth on the topic of "lots of fjords for sale". I would agree with Deb Ulrich, Fjords are still selling and for a good price. The market is soft, folks are VERY careful about spending any extra money but a good horse will always sell and in the Fjord World, there are MANY good horses. Now, young ones, untrained ones, problem ones, out of shape, not in good condition or training won't sell well and won't sell for top dollar. A top dollar horse has to be in top condition, that it is physically in top condition plus in its training. It must also have a good pedigree, good movement and good disposition, anything lacking and it won't get top dollar. Also, sorry to say it, but many DON'T know how to market their horse. AND, I hate to say it, but there are poor quality Fjords out there. Not as many as good ones, but there are those that breed anything and everything and then don't take care for them in quality feed and quality training. Also, another thing I would say that I disagree with you on is, "there is NOT a lot of Fjords out there for sale". If you are looking for a specific Fjord, one that has a bit more training and need a few characteristics met it's gona be hard to find. Or if you are looking for a certain color/age/gender it is harder to find. The more you have specifics, the narrower your list of available Fjords are. A good trained Fjord will sell! And probably quickly. We are still a VERY rare breed, we have not changed in numbers a whole lot over the last 10 yrs. I got into Fjords in '94 and what I see is the buyers now is REALLY careful about buying. 15 yrs ago, all you had to do was have a Fjord for sale and it was sold, now.. Buyers are smarter and comparative shop a lot more. They realize not every Fjord is a good one and they want a good one. I say , "GOOD FOR THEM". This might help some folks think twice before they breed. The GOOD breeders should still be breeding, or we will have a shortage in 4-5 yrs. But, we need ONLY good Fjords! Pretty condensed reply, but I have to get going and just wanted to toss out my 2 cents on the subject. I have sold 18 this year, last 3 yrs I have sold 23-25 each year. So, yes numbers are down but also folks did not send me as many horses to sell for them. Those owners who did, were very happy, the horses sold, Folks are still looking. I KNOW if I would have gotten more good Fjords in on consignment they would have sold. Patti Jo Walter Francis Creek Fjords Two Rivers WI Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: blanketing
This message is from: "Ardeth Obenauf" ?I only blanket them if they've been clipped. Right now Lena was clipped for two CDEs this fall so she's blanketed at night; the days have been warm enough for her to go without. She'll keep growing coat, however, so in a month or so we'll be able to dispense with the blanket altogether. ao Ardeth Obenauf The Lazy AO Farm Shelbyville, TN Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Blanketing Fjords?
This message is from: Carol Makosky The only time I put a blanket on her was one windy rainy cold time and she was soaked & shivering. I locked her in the stall with a blanket on and hay to munch on to warm up. One other time I also had her blanket on for a long winter trailer trip in an open stock trailer. I now try to pay better attention to if it is going to be windy with a cold rain come spring or fall and put her in for the day or night. It would kind of help us to give advice if you would tell us where you live. On 11/12/10 12:43 AM, Moira Sambey wrote: This message is from: Moira Sambey Is anybody blanketing their Fjords at pasture??? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f -- "God forbid that I should go to any heaven in which there are no horses." R.B. Cunningham Graham Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin Home of Heidi, The Wonder Pony Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
are there lots of fjords for sale out there
This message is from: mabo...@aol.com Actually the market is much better this year than last year. I've sold 5 Fjords this year -- two of my own and three consignments -- and I have had a number of quality prospective buyers as well. I think the key is training. There are plenty of untrained, out of work, inexpensive horses out there, but you also get what you pay for. If you buy cheap, you'll need to put the training in yourself or pay someone else to do it. Or you can pay more and buy trained. I have no problem selling well trained riding horses. The greener ones take longer, but I also keep them in training and their price goes up over time. Young stock is slower to move because it takes a more specialized buyer. One of the reasons that Fjords do well in Virginia is that we have a group of owners showing them to great success. This year our stallion Ironwood Blitzen won the Area II Beginner Novice Eventing Championship. Our mare Helle has been driven with good results by a handicapped driver at shows. Lee Rouse has several Fjords eventing with her daughter Cameron and other Pony Club kids. Marsha Korose drives her pair LFF Ulend and Hog Solvar competitively. LeighAnn Hazel-Groux is active in dressage and has bought two more Fjords for her kids to event. Lindy Hild does EVERYTHING with her mare, DC Dagney. It really helps to have a community of Fjord owners out there showing and doing things with their horses. I've sold Fjords to a number of people who have seen one in action and are just amazed by the breed. So I think sales depends on where you are located, the type of training the horses, and the overall Fjord community. We have a good thing going in Virginia. Margaret Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA http://www.ironwood-farm.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Blanketing Fjords?
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I don't blanket mine and I live in Fairbanks, AlAska. They do not live in stalls but live together in a large corral/paddock with a Run-in shelter. They grow their own coats. I don't clip them either so don't need blankets> Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska This message is from: Moira Sambey > > > Is anybody blanketing their Fjords at pasture??? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
