Re: abortion/bleeding mares

2005-09-23 Thread Linda Bain

This message is from: "Linda Bain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I would just like to say a BIG thank you to everyone who e-mailed the list 
and privately regarding my mare.  It has put my mind at rest.


My mare completed her last course of penicillin yesterday and the vet does 
not think that she has aborted, so things are looking very positive.


Thanks again to everyone,

Linda 






abortion/bleeding mares

2005-09-23 Thread Janet
This message is from: "Janet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I am not a vet, so my comments are nothing more than observations mostly
based on thousands of pregnant sheep but

abortions almost always are accompanied with a brownish tinge to the blood,
i.e. the blood is not fresh.  The one exception was when I had a mare
promptly abort 5 days after giving her quest, in that case everything was
quite fresh, but with no warning.

I have observed sheep that had some fresh blood on and off but produced
normal live offspring. i.e. fresh blood means there is always hope all is
well, brown blood always means something is not well.

I believe placenta privia is possible in mares?  (where the placenta lays
accross the cervix).  I think there are some risk factors involved if this
is the cause, but it is possible for her to go term without incident.

janet





Re: Abortion/Bleeding Mares

2005-09-21 Thread Jon A. Ofjord

This message is from: "Jon A. Ofjord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 10:19 AM 9/21/2005 +0100, you wrote:

This message is from: "Linda Bain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


My mare is 5 1/2 months pregnant (last covering 11th April) and has begun 
to bleed.


Has anyone experienced anything like this before?  I have looked through 
all my books and browsed the internet and I can find plenty on the causes 
of abortion but nothing actually describing the process and if it is 
possible for mares to bleed without actually aborting.


Any information would be appreciated.



We had a similar situation with one of our mares.  She would bleed off and 
on, sometimes it was quite a lot (or seemed so) and she was also 
pregnant.  Our vet checked the mare with a type of clear plastic tube that 
she inserted vaginally into the mare, then looked inside with a flash 
light.  What she found were nodules of blood, clustered like grapes - was 
her description.  She described these "nodules" as something on the order 
of varicose veins.  The mare had five foals before we got her and she was 
otherwise healthy and active.  Once we knew this was her problem, and it 
was described to us as "nothing serious", we stopped worrying so much.  I 
believe the vet did cauterize some of the nodules and the bleeding 
ceased.  I hope this is what is happening to your mare and that it is not a 
serious issue.


Good luck.


Jon & Mary Ofjord
North Coast Fjords
Grand Marais, MN 55604
www.northcoastfjords.com





Abortion/Bleeding Mares

2005-09-21 Thread Linda Bain

This message is from: "Linda Bain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi List,

My mare is 5 1/2 months pregnant (last covering 11th April) and has begun to 
bleed.  It is very light bleeding and red.  I called the Vet yesterday when 
I noticed it and he is not sure if she is aborting or not, but is coming out 
every day to give her antibiotic injections and to monitor her.  She is not 
showing any signs of discomfort and is eating and drinking normally.


This morning the Vet came out again and she had passed a blood clot 
overnight which I showed him.  He seems to think it is fresh healthy blood 
and wasn't any sign of any aborted material, so he doesn't think that at 
this point she has aborted.  I asked about scanning her to see what was 
going on, but he doesn't think it is wise at this stage in case it causes 
her to abort.


She has had 3 foals previously with no problem and both her and the stallion 
had clear swab tests.  She was covered at home as I own both her and the 
stallion, and she has not left my premises since.  The only thing that I 
have done differently in recent weeks was that I wormed all the horses with 
an Ivermectin based wormer on 1st September.  The stallion had diarrhoea 
after this and lost a bit of weight.  The others have shown no ill effects 
(until now?).  I checked the wormer and it is safe to give to breeding 
animals up to 5x the maximum dose.


Has anyone experienced anything like this before?  I have looked through all 
my books and browsed the internet and I can find plenty on the causes of 
abortion but nothing actually describing the process and if it is possible 
for mares to bleed without actually aborting.


Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Linda