Re: buttercups and other 'odd' horse foods

1999-06-27 Thread Martie & John Bolinski
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We have sugar maple and 'swamp maple' (don't know the botanical name) plus
sweet gum (which the horses do NOT like).  Only one horse likes trees at all.
The vet says his teeth are so bad in front from stripping the leaves through
his front teeth.  The middle teeth are almost non-existant.  I have one red
maple, but it is not accessable to the horses (we alway hope!) in a rock
garden.  He has evidently had this problem for some time as he came to us
without those 2 front teeth.

Martie


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> Red maple is toxic to horses!  Other maples don't seem to be a problem.  Do
> you know what kind of maple you have near your paddocks?



Re: buttercups and other 'odd' horse foods

1999-06-25 Thread JBonner748
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Red maple is toxic to horses!  Other maples don't seem to be a problem.  Do 
you know what kind of maple you have near your paddocks?  



Re: buttercups and other 'odd' horse foods

1999-06-25 Thread Martie & John Bolinski
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I have been following the buttercup postings.  We have a lot of
buttercups and the horses do not seem to bother them.  Even the Fjord,
who eats almost anything else.
But I DO have a horse that eats Poison Ivy, Wild Rose, Green Briars and
Maple Tree leaves.  Are these things toxic to horses?  I can't imagine
that any of this would taste good enough to eat!  (I recently found out
that the daylilies they were munching ARE good to eat, even for people -
have had them in salad a few times; go figure).

Martie, John and Kilar in HOT Maryland where summer has suddenly arrived
with a vengeance.  Got to post later about recent WONDERFUL drives with
Kilar and bore everyone!  I think we are finally learning to be a Team.



Buttercups

1999-06-25 Thread WhipsNSpur
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Regarding buttercups...it is a toxic weed to horses if eaten in mass 
quantities.  If it is the only forage in the paddock and the horse eats it 
without any grass they will get a belly ache.  Most horses will avoid bitter 
plants like this if offered grass or hay as those a sweet and tasty.  Some 
horses will eat it in small amounts if they like the taste or if they "need" 
it.  As in for it's medicinal properties.  I had an appy mare who always ate 
wild onions.  I was worried b/c onions, like potatoes are poisonous to 
horses.  I finally decided that as she was in a huge field with tons of 
grass, that either she really liked those onions or she was self medicating.  
Also...be careful when mowing grazing areas as the oil and gas are deposited 
on the grass as it is cut.  That can be poisonous to horses too.
Kate



RE: Buttercups--foal watch--coyotes

1999-06-23 Thread Jeri L Rieger
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Last year when Tana foaled, we had tons of coyotes roaming around. They 
even managed to gang up on our 250+ lb. ram and take him down and kill him! 
(We had three dogs roaming the property protecting the livestock and they 
couldn't protect him.) Anyways, we took the afterbirth to the furthest 
corner of our furthest field and buried it what we thought was very deep. 
That night, it was dug up! While we had no problems with the coyotes 
hassling either the mare or foal..I wouldn't trust them any further 
than I could throw them.

Jeri in muggy missouri



Buttercups--foal watch--coyotes

1999-06-23 Thread Nathan Lapp
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We have a lot of buttercup weed in our pastures and are wondering if horses
have been hurt by them. They are toxic and can cause abortions in cows--or
at least that's what we have believed for generations. The second question
is, are they still toxic when dry? The cows and horses leave them back when
grazing but now we're cutting pastures and chopping them up for winter
bedding supply. We noticed last winter the mares would eat the chopped
bedding (nasty stuff!) when we restricted their hay.

And, Viola is due in a week! "Foal watch fever" is afflicting Hannah and me.
We have a question for the experienced horse people. Does a mare generally
follow the same pattern of bagging and preparing to foal? Last year Viola
had hardness in her bag and clear "milk" in her teats on her due date, but
didn't foal till nearly three weeks later. She had been pasture bred, so may
had a different breeding.

The rest of Viola's story from last year seems funny now that I've read all
of your foal watch posts. We were awfully inexperienced with horses but
Hannah and I both are very accurate with predicting calvings in our Hostein
cows, and attend  nearly all of the 65 births per year. We thought we could
tell when Viola was ready. Despite her bag, we weren't getting up at night
to check her because she wasn't waxed and didn't have real milk. She was
just staying the same, day after day after day. Then one evening I thought
her "milk" looked a little cloudy and teats more full. I didn't even tell
Hannah as she was away for the night, staying over with our neices whose
parents had gone out of town. But then to be sure no bad mistakes happen
when Hannah's not home I set my alarm clock for 2:30 am. When I got to the
barn Viola's teats were packed full. I stayed to watch for a few minutes and
she was, sure enough, in labor--so close I couldn't even go call Hannah on
the phone. The foal arrived within 15 minutes, no problems.

I think it was luck -- though I'd like to think I'm THAT good :)

Now that we're watching again, last year's luck doesn't ease our anxiety
much!

Last evening coyotes or dogs got into our range chickens in broad daylight
before we had cooped them in for the night. Six missing, five found dead.
Then I remembered someone here said they had lost a foal to coyotes and I
worried Viola would foal when we're not there. We keep her in a "night
pasture" close to the barn, but these wild creatures are bold. I think we'll
pen her indoors after this.

Anybody else have foals coming yet this year?

Barbara Lyn Lapp
Lapp Family Fjords--in western New York where it's hot and dry and the
strawberry season is over its peak