Re: Canola Oil
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sue Harrison wrote: > > This message is from: "Sue Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello again everyone ...well I have an entirely different topic today. I > received an email this morning warning of the dangers to man and beast of > consuming a familiar oil..".Canola Oil". This is an urban legend, see the link below, http://urbanlegends.about.com/science/urbanlegends/library/blcanola.htm Lori
Re: Canola Oil and Blue Seal Sunshine plus
This message is from: Diane Turcotte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have been using sunshine plus for about a year on my horse, I think it's great stuff, the horses accept it as pellets, it has greatly improved her hoof growth, (she was a VERY slow grower), and her coat is super shiny, In fact the whole barn is using it now. I feed 1 cup a day. -Dianne Massachusetts I have a question Is anyone out there in "Fjordland" familiar with Blue Seal feeds? What supplement would you recommend feeding to a Fjord? There are several to choose from...Blue Seal Sunshine Plus is one. It is 25% protein and the recommended amount to feed is up to 2 lbs. daily. Another is Blue Seal E-Z Pellets. Steve you mentioned TDI 10 . Do you know if it is available in Canada? I am unsure which of the Blue Seal ones to try, unless of course this one you mentioned is available here. Since I am unsure what else to feed, we are still feeding the 12% Blueseal Rider. Storm loves it and is doing very well on it. And I am wondering if the old saying might prove true here..."If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Have a great day everyone Sue in N.B. (Desert Storm's mom)
Canola Oil and Blue Seal Sunshine plus
This message is from: "Sue Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello again everyone ...well I have an entirely different topic today. I received an email this morning warning of the dangers to man and beast of consuming a familiar oil..".Canola Oil". Rather that put the letter in here, I am just enclosing the web address of a very informative article to those interested. http://www.karinya.com/canola1.htmne I have been using Becel marjarine thinking that it is a healthy substitute to colestrol- containing marjarines or butter. Then I read this Just what is considered "safe" to eat anymore? Contaminated meat, unsafe vegetable oils...the list goes on and on. Man will surely destroy himself at this rate! I will be much interested in hearing the opinion of anyone who checks this article out. It even makes a reference to Mad Cow disease. I have a question Is anyone out there in "Fjordland" familiar with Blue Seal feeds? What supplement would you recommend feeding to a Fjord? There are several to choose from...Blue Seal Sunshine Plus is one. It is 25% protein and the recommended amount to feed is up to 2 lbs. daily. Another is Blue Seal E-Z Pellets. Steve you mentioned TDI 10 . Do you know if it is available in Canada? I am unsure which of the Blue Seal ones to try, unless of course this one you mentioned is available here. Since I am unsure what else to feed, we are still feeding the 12% Blueseal Rider. Storm loves it and is doing very well on it. And I am wondering if the old saying might prove true here..."If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Have a great day everyone Sue in N.B. (Desert Storm's mom)
Re: Canola Oil
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/2/01 6:09:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > A good friend of mine sent me some rather alarming information about > Canola Oil. Well, you all know about the diet we're on now . I believe the Canola oil stuff is another urban myth. It circulated on my "Special Diet" list a couple years back, about it being rapeseed and all the awful things about it. It was discussed for quite some time, with the bottom line being that it IS okay and we can use it with no problem. Pamela
Canola Oil
This message is from: carol j makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear List Members, A good friend of mine sent me some rather alarming information about Canola Oil. This is the stuff that we are told is good for you in stead of veggie oil. If anyone is interested in this, please email me privately. I understand this is not Fjord talk and it is rather long. -- "Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
Re: Re: Fw: Canola Oil Please Read
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Greek Party Distress" which is when the mere sight of Feta cheese or > calamari leads > to an uncontrollable urge to drink Uzo leading to dancing on tables and > smashing glasses. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. Oh No! Could this be the > first warning sign. > Vivian, Best of luck with your "malady". Please be sure to let Norma and I know when the next urge strikes, as we'd like to be there to participate. [:o) By the way, the current take on olive oil is that it's really good for one's heart, although I personaly steer clear of the non-virgin (i.e., solvent extracted) oil. Best
Re: Re: Fw: Canola Oil Please Read
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Bill for an informed educational slant to this Canola Oil controversy. Just goes to show the power of the internet. Can be a good thing and then as we have both experienced can be not so..I'm glad I did not rush to purge the pantry of Canola, but I cook with Olive Oil generally speaking. Just a matter of time before that too is linked with some horrific malady "Greek Party Distress" which is when the mere sight of Feta cheese or calamari leads to an uncontrollable urge to drink Uzo leading to dancing on tables and smashing glasses. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. Oh No! Could this be the first warning sign. All the Best Vivian
Re: Fw: Canola Oil Please Read
This message is from: "B. Hendricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi: I'm glad that you passed that post on to your nutritionist friend. As to references, as you can see, the post didn't come with any ... I do think it is worth investigating rather than throwing it away. What oils one may ingest in natural foods is quite different from ingesting refined quantities of those same elements, and it at least bears looking into. Personally, I don't know one way or the other. I do know that fats and refined oils have shortened the lives of a lot of people both in this country and in others that have taken to the American diet. There are also people living high in the mountains in some places of the world who eat no refined foods of any kind, and live to be well over one-hundred years, so the whole matter is worth some consideration. I too have added oil to horse's feed to help them gain weight and strength, but one has to admit, in nature the horse would never find the opportunity to ingest fats in that degree. I just passed it along for you to all consider and am glad there is someone who can give some feedback on it. And even then, one person's opinion wouldn't be good enough for me. I am a living example of what can happen even under the direction of an MD - perhaps permanently crippled from damage done to nerves in my feet and legs (and liver and pancreas) by a high blood pressure medication that literally millions can take with no problems. It will be interesting to see what the nutritionist has to say. Best regards, Bonnie Hendricks Gallery Horse Portraits, Oil Paintings, Prints, Books http://members.xoom.com/BHendricks/Gallery1.html http://www.hendricksgallery.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 7:39 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Canola Oil Please Read This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because I am not a nutritionist, I have taken the liberty of forwarding the message about canola oil to a colleague who is, for her response. However, there are a few things about this post (including the lack of cited references supporting statements made) that raise accuracy questions in my mind, so I'll add my two cents to the mix (drawn from various references I can provide upon request). For (snipped)
Re: Fw: Canola Oil Please Read
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because I am not a nutritionist, I have taken the liberty of forwarding the message about canola oil to a colleague who is, for her response. However, there are a few things about this post (including the lack of cited references supporting statements made) that raise accuracy questions in my mind, so I'll add my two cents to the mix (drawn from various references I can provide upon request). For example, the writer states that "canola oil is high in glycosides which cause health problems by inhibiting enzyme function". I'd personally like to see this reference, because, while SOME glycosides are toxic (e.g., the "milk" in milkweed for example), others (e.g., red, blue and yellow plant pigments called anthocyanins) protect humans from cancer (so have another glass of red wine with dinner tonight). I'd also like to see the reference for the statement that "rape is the most toxic of all food plantseven insects won't eat it". The truth of it is that, while some "generalist" herbivores (those that eat whatever they find, pretty much without preference) will avoid Brassicas due to the defensive compounds they contain, "specialist" herbivores not only do not avoid them, but are able to detoxify the plant's defenses, and use these as attractants as feeding and egglaying stimulants. On the main focus of the post, fatty oils are produced by many species of plants, often in large amounts. They are typically extracted either by pressing (e.g., extra virgin olive oil) or by solvent extraction (e.g, non-virgin olive oil). Higher grades are edible, and lower ones normally have industrial uses. Fatty oils also have a medicinal value. The four classes of vegetable fatty oils are 1. drying oils (absorb oxygen and dry to thin elastic films), 2. semi-drying oils (absorb oxygen slowly and in limited amounts and form films only after long exposure, 3. nondrying oils (remain liquid at ordinary temps. and do not form films), and 4., fats or tallows (solid or semi-solid at normal temps). All 4 classes contain examples of edible oils. For example, (1) includes soybean oil, and linseed oil (both edible, although the latter is most often - although not always- used in paints and varnishes). It may interest readers to know that soybean oil is also used in the manufacturing of candles, soap, varnishes, lacquers, paints, greases, linoleum, rubber substitues, cleaning compounds, insecticides and disinfectants. Examples of class (2) are: cottenseed oil, corn oils, sesame oil, sunflower oil, and the infamous (we are told) oil of rape (various species of Brassica). Rape seeds are extensively cultivated in Europe, China, japan and India where they have been used in diet for centuries. According to my sources, the crude oil is edible when cold pressed, and is also used in lamps, in oiling wooden goods, in manufacturing soap and rubber substitutes, and, when highly refined, as a lubricant for delicate machinery. As long as I'm on a roll, class (3) examples include olive oils and peanut oil. Guess what? Inferior grades (including "all natural" peanut oil) are used for making soaps, illuminants and as lubricants. All Brassica plants are rich in sulfur-containing compounds called "glucosinolates". In recent years, glucosinolates have been receiving a lot of positive attention from nutritionists because they are thought to be anti-cancer agents. Interestingly, these beneficial compounds apparently did evolve as a defense against insects and other herbivores, but it really is a misnomer to call the parts we eat 'toxic" when in fact they are beneficial. Perhaps the confusion comes from the fact that glucosinolates decomposing in soil may form toxic isothiocyanates and thiocyanates (the former killed thousands of people in a chemical plant accident in Bophal India). This fact is used to advantage by farmers who can reduce weed biomass by plowing under winter rape in the spring. So, just because canola oil is used as a lubricant, and contains insect or weed toxic compounds or stains towels (fortunately for us, our insides are not made of cotton) does not mean its ingestion poses a risk. However, I have forwarded the post to my nutritionist colleagues for further comment. Sorry to go on so long, but those of us in the profession of science hear a lot of these"It's a (fill in the blank-Government, Industry, Farmer, etc.) conspiracy to poison us all in the name of the all mighty dollar" claims. Even though I love the X-Files, I don't blindly accept every scare story that circulates these days. However, I still subscribe to the philosophy "Trust, but verify".
Fw: Canola Oil Please Read
This message is from: "B. Hendricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here it is ... A friend sent this to me... Bonnie Hendricks Gallery Horse Portraits, Oil Paintings, Prints, Books http://members.xoom.com/BHendricks/Gallery1.html http://www.hendricksgallery.com -Original Message- From: Bobbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Denise Valeriani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bonnie Hendricks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mom Reardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 7:12 PM Subject: Fw: Canola Oil Please Read >>>> Subject: Deadly oil >>>> Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 10:26 PM >>>> >>>> CANOLA OIL >>>> Deadly for the Human Body! >>>> >>>----------------- - >- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> - >>>> -- >>>> Beware of Canola Oil, Canola Oil is an Industrial Oil, Not Fit For >>>> Human >>>> Consumption. >>>>SUMMARY Before you read the following article, here is a summary of a >>>> few >>>> facts regarding Canola Oil: >>>> It is genetically engineered rapeseed. >>>> Canada paid the FDA the sum of $50 million to have rape registered and >>>> recognized as "safe". (Source: Young Again and others) >>>> Rapeseed is a lubricating oil used by small industry. It has never been >>>> meant >>>> for human consumption. >>>> It is derived from the mustard family and is considered a toxic and >>>> poisonous >>>> weed, which when processed, becomes rancid very quickly. >>>> It has been shown to cause lung cancer (Wall Street Journal: 6/7/95) >>>> It is very inexpensive to grow and harvest. Insects won't eat it. >>>> Some typical and possible side effects include loss of vision, >>>> disruption of >>>> the central nervous system, respiratory illness, anemia, constipation, >>>> increased incidence of heart disease and cancer, low birth weights in >>>> infants >>>> and irritability. >>>> Generally rapeseed has a cumulative effect, taking almost 10 years >>>> before >>>> symptoms begin to manifest. It has a tendency to inhibit proper >>>> metabolism or >>>> foods and prohibits normal enzyme function. Canola is a Trans Fatty >>>> Acid, >>>> which has shown to have a direct link to cancer. These Trans Fatty >>>> acids are >>>> labeled as hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils. Avoid them! >>>> According to John Thomas' book, Young Again, 12 years ago in England >>>> and >>>> Europe, rape seed was fed to cows, pigs and sheep who later went blind >>>> and >>>> began attacking people. There were no further attacks after the rape >>>> seed was >>>> eliminated from the diet. >>>> Source: David Dancu, N.D. >>>> >>>> By Jim Lynn, Essential Oils >>>> It's amazing to me...The more research I do, the more I see a >>>> relationship >>>> between the food we eat and fatal diseases. Canola oil is no exception. >>>> >>>> Readers of EOO are familiar with the meat industry practice of feeding >>>> rendered meat "by-products" to cattle and poultry (EOO #015), and the >>>> suspected relationship of Mad Cow Disease to CJD and Alzheimer's >>>> Disease (EOO >>>> #016). Now comes information that Canola Oil is the suspected causative >>>> agent >>>> for Scrapie, a viral disease transmitted to cattle who were fed >>>> rendered >>>> sheep >>>> infected with Scrapie. Both Scrapie and Mad Cow Disease destroy the >>>> brain's >>>> ability to function. They literally eat the brain away, causing >>>> blindness, >>>> loss of mind and erratic behavior. >>>> Canola oil's real name is "LEAR" oil (Low Erucic Acid Rape). it is more >>>> >>>> commonly known as "rape oil," a semi-drying oil that is used as a >>>> lubricant, >>>> fuel, soap and synthetic rubber base, and as an illuminant to give >>>> color >>>> pages >>>> in magazines their slick look. In short it is an industrial oil that >>>> does not >>>> belong in the human body. It is typically referred to in light industry >>>> as a >>>> penetrati
Re: Canola Oil
This message is from: "B. Hendricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi: I'll have to find it, its buried "up there" in about a zillion emails but I know I didn't delete it. They said it really wasn't good for people, either, and some may have doubts but you know... they allow a lot of things on the market that they decide later is not good for us, causes cancer, etc., and its too bad we have to find out "after the fact." I don't want to "pickle my gizzard" either - HA!!! I'll hunt for that email and send it on. It said that livestock won't even eat the rape plant as they "know." and - even if the bad elements are on a "low level" - I'm pretty sure I don't want to use it at all if they are there. Our bodies go through enough with fighting off bad elements in the air, water, etc., - Bonnie Hendricks Gallery Horse Portraits, Oil Paintings, Prints, Books http://members.xoom.com/BHendricks/Gallery1.html http://www.hendricksgallery.com -Original Message- From: Bushnell's <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 1:55 PM Subject: Canola Oil >This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >At 06:14 AM 4/19/99 -, you wrote: >>This message is from: "B. Hendricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Speaking of oil - ... there was a warning about using Canola oil (not >good for >>people, either!). actually poisonous.> >>Bonnie > >I'd be interested in that report Bonnie.. I use Canola oil in cooking. >(Hope I haven't "pickled my gizzard," or some such :o) > >Ruthie Bushnell, NW MT > >
Canola Oil
This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 06:14 AM 4/19/99 -, you wrote: >This message is from: "B. Hendricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Speaking of oil - ... there was a warning about using Canola oil (not good for >people, either!). actually poisonous.> >Bonnie I'd be interested in that report Bonnie.. I use Canola oil in cooking. (Hope I haven't "pickled my gizzard," or some such :o) Ruthie Bushnell, NW MT
Canola oil
This message is from: "Jon A. Ofjord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bonnie Hendricks Wrote:"Speaking of oil - I don't remember if it was on this list or another one that I'm on... but there was a warning about using Canola oil (not good for people, either!). I just thought I'd toss this in... if any of you are interested in that letter/report I'll try to find it. It comes from the rape plant, they said, and is not good, actually poisonous." This comes from the Canadian Poisionous plant site: > Rapeseed (Brassica napus) meal is used as an additive to livestock feed, but toxicity occurs from glucosinolates > and erucic acid, which form in the seeds. Canadian breeders have developed new cultivars called canola, which > are low in these compounds (Cheeke and Schull 1985). See discussions under Brassica oleracea for more > information on poisoning by Brassica species. I would like to know more about where you received the information. You may email my privately, if you wish. Mary Ofjord
