Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh?

2002-10-10 Thread Janet McNally
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Question and a comment.

Question... those who trace clip to allow their horses to dry out, I presume 
the horse must then be stabled
or out of the wind?

comment... regarding grooming for shows. One aspect to grooming that should be 
considered is breed
character.  If things like feathering on fetlocks are part of the fjord breed, 
they should be left
untrimmed.  Personally I like to stick to just the practical stuff, like the 
long hair in the throat, so it
does not tangle in the bridle.

Janet



Re: Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh?

2002-10-10 Thread FjordPonyHonda
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Hi.. i decided to fully body clip my fjord this winter... his fur was growing 
in back in august.. and he looked so scraggy and terrible.. i also show in 
the winter.. so he could look like that.. i also did it because after a 10 
minute work out.. jumping and all.. he was drenched.. and i couldnt just 
leave him cold and wet like that.. i keep a turnout rug on all the time and 
when it gets colder.. i put on a stable rug and a turnout rug.. i live in 
washington state.. :)



Re: Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh? Fjord Fun Day

2002-10-09 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

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At 09:36 AM 10/9/2002 -0700, you wrote:

This message is from: Cynthia Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

BTW, I just got my Herald and see that NFHR has a
grooming tape out for $20. Has anyone seen it yet?
Please provide a review if you have.


No it has not been seen by anyone other than the committee that has worked 
on it.  The tapes are in the mail to the BOD members right now for their 
review  final edit if needed.  They should be available for shipment very 
soon.


Be aware that the $20 price is only good until the 1st of December.  This 
is an introductory price.  By the way the tape is about 90 minutes in length.


Mike



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Re: Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh? Fjord Fun Day

2002-10-09 Thread Cynthia Madden
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I have already trace clipped Tank on his chest,
shoulders, and where the harness saddle and girth go.
I am thinking about clipping his flank area as he
seems to sweat there. I have a picture of Tank trace
clipped more thoroughly for the AZ CDE last March.
It's at www.picturetrail.com -  member name, cmadden.
Look under the AZ CDE. It's the 3rd picture from the
end. 

He already has a fairly woolly coat (his first winter
coat, not his second longer coat)and the temps range
from 50 at night to high 80's during the day right
now. I clipped him as he was growing out with my dog
clippers but I think I will have to invest in a set of
heavier clippers or bug my neighbor again. 

I only scissor clip Tank's goat hairs and do a bridle
path, plus trim his mane. Sometimes before a show, I
will trim his ears on the outside to neaten them up a
little but I never clip inside his ears. I do give his
tail a dressage type trim which is allowed. I like the
way it looks. I leave feathers as is, but may trim a
little above the knees for a slightly improved look.
The breed standard calls for leaving them pretty
natural. I will clean his hooves, but I don't polish
them. I know some people who show primarily in open
carriage driving competition and other open shows, do
somewhat fancier trim  polish jobs because they
believe it makes them more competitive with the other
breeds. I believe as Fjords have become more common in
open competition that some judges are learning the
breed standard and not being so critical.

Linda, coming from the Morgan world, I can understand
your shock, but Fjords are a little bit more au
natural than Morgan show people can stand. It's all
part of their charm. Welcome to Fjords!!

BTW, I just got my Herald and see that NFHR has a
grooming tape out for $20. Has anyone seen it yet?
Please provide a review if you have.

I attended Beth  Sandy's fun day and it was too much 
fun. Just look at my picture in jousting to see how
much I was concentraing on keeping that d!!! coit from
falling off my lance (aka noodle)! Thanks so much to
Sue North for letting me monopolize Heidi all day. It
was nice to meet so many Fjord people and their
horses. Beth and Sandy are the best! Thanks also to
Sue Clark-Sorger for providing me with the ride there
from Albuquerque. Beth did a beautiful job in training
Sue's mare, Heather, for driving. Kez looks great and
is happily reunited with his Mom, Sue, again.

=
Cynthia Madden
Las Cruces, NM
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Re: Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh?

2002-10-08 Thread Janine
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Hi this Janine in Victoria, B.C.
I have two fjords and I wouldn't dream of clipping their whiskers or eye
lashes, only the goat hairs under the chin and throat, (I love the way
that was put).  I clip these so I can do up the nose band without pulling at
the hair.  I also clip a bridle path so my bridle will fit on, give them 3
weeks and they wouldn't.  I don't show or event anymore so I prefer to leave
well enough alone, the hair is there for a reason.   My mare grows a very
long coat every winter so I give her a modified trace clip that goes from
under her throat, down her chest, and stops just behind the girth.  It only
goes 1/3 up the sides of her neck and 2 inches up from her elbows.  I
clipped her out on the 24th of Sept. and just did her again yesterday but I
have yet to clip out my boy Lorens.  I clip them in the winter so they don't
sweat up too much, take so long to cool down and dry off, who wants to be
wet and cold?  I also clip so I can be sure that the girth area is kept
clean, who wants girth galls?  This is only my humble opinion.

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From: Bossmare [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:20 AM
Subject: Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh?


 This message is from: Bossmare [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I'd like some advice on this one.  I have two Fjord mares here in New
Jersey.
 Both are growing thick coats but our temps are in the 70's.  I took the
new
 mare on a half-mile walk around the farm (stopping on her part
occasionally to
 make sure the barn was still there) and was surprised to see how warm she
was
 from the walk.  The other mare after a brief (successful, yea!) training
 session was also very warm.  In fact with the temps in the 60's overnight
they
 come in from pasture with sweaty patches on belly and neck.

 I do not believe in clipping and have never clipped a horse but neither
have I
 had any that seemed to sweat this easily with light work, or no work in
 moderate temps.  Last year I wound up clipping the one mare on her neck
and
 belly but hated the look as the difference in color was so noticeable and
she
 looked motheaten.  Even with the trace clip she was warm during the mild
 winter we had.

 So, what do you folks south of the arctic do with your horses in work or
those
 you'd like to put in work.  I'm more concerned with the health risk of
letting
 wet long-haired horses dry out than with cosmetics.  Is it possible that
the
 Fjords endure this better than other breeds?  I should add that I don't
see
 any signs of heat distress in breathing or energy, just the damp to wet
coat.

 Lois



Re: Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh?

2002-10-08 Thread Bossmare
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Another question:  How many times do you need to clip to keep the coat
short?  Also I've read somewhere (not being an expert at all on this
subject)  that there is an optimal time to clip, I believe after the winter
coat is well established but it seems to me that problems could develop long
before that.  We had a Friesian mare with a coat similar to a Fjords (very
dense) and she had to be clipped year round.  She also had problems with
heat and cooling out.  Last year my Fjord mare grew not only a dense coat
early on but longish like dog hair later in the winter.  She smelled like
one when wet too.  Much as I like my horses natural I think if I want to use
her she will need clipping.

Lois
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 I live in Southern, CA but it does not seem to stop Fjords from growing a
 thick winter coat despite year around average temperatures of 70 degrees.
It
 can be 80 degrees in January. I find clipping a necessity rather than
 cosmetic. A horse worked hard in a thick coat is miserable. They breath
hard
 from overheating and seem lethargic. I do a full body clip which looks
just
 like their summer coat after a few weeks. Then, I have to blanket on cold
 nights.

 I learned the hard way. I didn't clip a Fjord once and he got so stressed
and
 dehydrated that he started to colic. It took 4 bags of IV fluids to get
him
 back on track.



Re: Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh?

2002-10-08 Thread bolinsj

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If I plan to do a lot of winter driving, I find I need to 'trace clip' 
Kilar.  He just sweats too much otherwise.  It is impossible to 'cool 
him out' after a good driving workout.  I am afraid he will catch cold 
or something.  Last year I did not clip because I planned to ride 
overwinter instead of drive.  I wound up driving more than riding and 
really wished I had clipped him.  This year I plan to do a moderate 
trace clip again.  Other than that, I do not clip anything but his mane 
and the nasty tufts that stick out of his ears.  I leave the goat hairs 
in place.   I DO clip the few goat hairs that the mare, Frida gets 
because it looks more 'feminine'.


Martie in MD - where the Fjordies are finally getting their winter coats.

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I live in Southern, CA but it does not seem to stop Fjords from growing a 
thick winter coat despite year around average temperatures of 70 degrees. It 
can be 80 degrees in January. I find clipping a necessity rather than 
cosmetic. A horse worked hard in a thick coat is miserable. They breath hard 
from overheating and seem lethargic. I do a full body clip which looks just 
like their summer coat after a few weeks. Then, I have to blanket on cold 
nights. 




Re: Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh?

2002-10-08 Thread Elnolsen
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I live in Southern, CA but it does not seem to stop Fjords from growing a 
thick winter coat despite year around average temperatures of 70 degrees. It 
can be 80 degrees in January. I find clipping a necessity rather than 
cosmetic. A horse worked hard in a thick coat is miserable. They breath hard 
from overheating and seem lethargic. I do a full body clip which looks just 
like their summer coat after a few weeks. Then, I have to blanket on cold 
nights. 

I learned the hard way. I didn't clip a Fjord once and he got so stressed and 
dehydrated that he started to colic. It took 4 bags of IV fluids to get him 
back on track.  



Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh?

2002-10-08 Thread Bossmare
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I'd like some advice on this one.  I have two Fjord mares here in New Jersey.
Both are growing thick coats but our temps are in the 70's.  I took the new
mare on a half-mile walk around the farm (stopping on her part occasionally to
make sure the barn was still there) and was surprised to see how warm she was
from the walk.  The other mare after a brief (successful, yea!) training
session was also very warm.  In fact with the temps in the 60's overnight they
come in from pasture with sweaty patches on belly and neck.

I do not believe in clipping and have never clipped a horse but neither have I
had any that seemed to sweat this easily with light work, or no work in
moderate temps.  Last year I wound up clipping the one mare on her neck and
belly but hated the look as the difference in color was so noticeable and she
looked motheaten.  Even with the trace clip she was warm during the mild
winter we had.

So, what do you folks south of the arctic do with your horses in work or those
you'd like to put in work.  I'm more concerned with the health risk of letting
wet long-haired horses dry out than with cosmetics.  Is it possible that the
Fjords endure this better than other breeds?  I should add that I don't see
any signs of heat distress in breathing or energy, just the damp to wet coat.

Lois