Driving bits
This message is from: Phillip Odden n...@norskwoodworks.com Hello from Phillip Odden wondering where that wonderful globally warmed winter went? Bonnie said, After going through vast numbers of riding bits for my other two Fjords before ending up with HS bits for them, I figured I would start with one nice bit for Milo's driving career to avoid spending tons of money searching for the right one. The bit I ordered arrived and I am hesitant to use it in case I have to return it. It is a Herm Sprenger aurigan 16mm arch mouth butterfly. It has an smooth side and a bumpy side. The bumpy side concerns me.. Like anything else horse related there are lots of ways to look at biting for a driving Fjord horse. I expect your choice is a good one. Fjords are said to have generally thicker tongues and need an arch mouth for tongue relief. I like Glory bits. They have an arch set at a forward angle with no rough side. This rough side can get people into trouble if they put the bit in the bridle so the rough side comes into play when the reins are tightened. And sometimes they think they have the bit right side forward when they don't because it is a little tricky. You almost have to get rather personal with your pony and put your fingers in its mouth to feel what is happening when you engage the bit. This goes for the curb chain too. Curb chains can and should be adjusted depending on what you want to happen when you tighten the lines. Not something you should leave to happenstance. Butterfly bits are reversible so they swivel. Some say it is possible to pinch the corners of the horse's lips in the swivel. Can,'t say that it has happened to me with my horses but then I don't know for sure. I expect the bit you have is finely made and the swivel is tight. The butterfly probably has two settings. A liverpool has several more settings including the one I use nearly all the time, with nearly all my horses, rough cheek. The rough cheek setting is just above the first slot just under the mouth piece. Because the liverpool has more settings I prefer them over butterfly driving bits. In the end it is the driver's responsibility to know and at least to try to understand what will happen when she or he tightens the lines on the driving bit. That is an important aspect of horsemanship. So I expect there will be many different answers depending on which driving discipline and tradition you are involved in. But a very good question Bonnie. respectfully, Phillip Odden Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
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This message is from: bbd...@aol.com My new driving Fjord, Milo, has been going nicely in a mullen flexible snaffle. Now, as we start to venture off farm, it's time to graduate to a proper driving bit. After going through vast numbers of riding bits for my other two Fjords before ending up with HS bits for them, I figured I would start with one nice bit for Milo's driving career to avoid spending tons of money searching for the right one. The bit I ordered arrived and I am hesitant to use it in case I have to return it. It is a Herm Sprenger aurigan 16mm arch mouth butterfly. It has an smooth side and a bumpy side. The bumpy side concerns me...I didn't see that in the catalog. Does anyone use this type of bit mouthpiece on their Fjords? I see a lot of Liverpool bits in Fjord driving photos. Is this a preferred shank over the butterfly? Any advice would be appreciated. BTW, the latest Herald is awesome! Plenty of good reading and photos of Fjord versatility. Bonnie in Fl Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
driving bits
This message is from: Caroline Warren caroline.war...@att.net August 3, 2009 From Caroline Warren caroline.war...@att.net Subject: Driving bits I'm thinking about buying a mullen mouth liverpool driving bit for my fjord mare, Trina, as it was recommended by my trainer. She has been driving well for a year and a half in a low port liverpool on the first slot, but she is a very forward mare and sometimes tosses her head when you apply the curb chain. She's one of those strong-willed fjords, but hasn't given me any trouble. Apparently she gave my trainer some grief this past month when I was laid up with a broken leg and left her with the trainer. I wonder if a mullen mouth bit will really help. Any comments? Caroline Warren Chico, CA Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
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This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I like the Myler butterfly driving bit with a low wide port (MB15) You can order htem in any width from Driving Essentials. You can also order this mouthpiece in a Liverpool cheek. The Glory bits are also good, but hard to find anymore? Fjords have low pallets and large tongues, so a mullen mouth or low wide port may help. The shape of the Myler bits really helps also. Jean in Hot Fairbanks, Alask, 80 degrees and smoke. I'm thinking about buying a mullen mouth liverpool driving bit for my fjord mare, Trina, as it was recommended by my trainer. She has been driving well for a year and a half in a low port liverpool on the first slot, but she is a very forward mare and sometimes tosses her head when you apply the curb chain. She's one of those strong-willed fjords, but hasn't given me any trouble. Apparently she gave my trainer some grief this past month when I was laid up with a broken leg and left her with the trainer. I wonder if a mullen mouth bit will really help. Any comments? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
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This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Myler makes driving bits with butterfly and elbow cheeks, probably would make a Liverpool cheek too. I have the butterfly Myler with a solid low port (wide) mouthpiece (MB 15) and also the elbow with the same mouthpiece. I got the elbow bit , 6, from Big Horse Feed and tack in California and the butterfly Myler in a 5.5 from Driving Essentials. The Myler Kimberwick cheek looks a lot like a driving bit cheek. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska clear land cold, -1 degree Hi Melinda, I am sure that one can find Kimberwicke bits for much less--like $35 or so. But those are made in Pakistan and some are decent and others are awful. The specific Kimberwicke I am refering to is a Myler bit, and Myler bits are expensive! The custom made Mylers are made in America and cost aproximately $140 or so. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/18/2007 10:12:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do any of you drive with a Kimberwicke? Yes, I drive with Kimberwicke bits. I use the Uxeter style with low port solid mouth (my girls do not like jointed bits). I use them on the upper setting 90% of the time - which is basically a snaffle setting with no real leverage at all. Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords 260 May Creek Rd Days Creek, OR 97429 541-825-3303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: jen frame [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI Carol, I agree that if it works well: use it! But it will cost me $110 to buy it to find out if it works well! Basically I am wondering if other Fjord owners ever drive in a riding bit.? Thanks, Jen On 11/19/07, Carol Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Carol Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do any of you drive with a Kimberwicke? I think my friend used one when he owned his Fjord. If it works well, then use it, I say. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are brave, you can search google what you want, and add craigslist as a search term. I just bought a pair of Cliff Lynch chinks from someone in Virgina that way. There is a risk, because there is no feed back system. I paid with paypal, and it worked great. I also bought an arena drag this way, and had it shipped cross country,. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: Melinda Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kimberwicks cost $110?! Is that what you are saying? Mine was $25 or $35. just curious about that, Melinda On 11/19/07, Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are brave, you can search google what you want, and add craigslist as a search term. I just bought a pair of Cliff Lynch chinks from someone in Virgina that way. There is a risk, because there is no feed back system. I paid with paypal, and it worked great. I also bought an arena drag this way, and had it shipped cross country,. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw -- Coaching with Melinda Schumacher, MD Personal Empowerment through Creative Expression and Equine Experiential Learning You wander from room to room hunting for the diamond necklace that is already around your neck. ~Jalal-Uddin Rumi As she knotted the reins and took her stand, the horse's soul came into her hand, and up from the mouth that held the steel came an innermost word, half thought, half feel.~paraphrased, John Masefield Fly Without Wings www.flywithoutwings.net Gestalt Practitioner www.gestaltcleveland.org The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: jen frame [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Melinda, I am sure that one can find Kimberwicke bits for much less--like $35 or so. But those are made in Pakistan and some are decent and others are awful. The specific Kimberwicke I am refering to is a Myler bit, and Myler bits are expensive! The custom made Mylers are made in America and cost aproximately $140 or so. The pre-made Mylers are made in China, which I am not thrilled about, but the Myler brothers themselves inspect the Chinese made bits and have strict quality control, so they are probably the best Chinese made bits you could get. They too are expensive--like I said $110.00. Myler bits are supposedly worth the price! I'll let you know if I end up buying one, what I think of it, if you are interested. Jen On 11/19/07, Melinda Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Melinda Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kimberwicks cost $110?! Is that what you are saying? Mine was $25 or $35. just curious about that, Melinda On 11/19/07, Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are brave, you can search google what you want, and add craigslist as a search term. I just bought a pair of Cliff Lynch chinks from someone in Virgina that way. There is a risk, because there is no feed back system. I paid with paypal, and it worked great. I also bought an arena drag this way, and had it shipped cross country,. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw -- Coaching with Melinda Schumacher, MD Personal Empowerment through Creative Expression and Equine Experiential Learning You wander from room to room hunting for the diamond necklace that is already around your neck. ~Jalal-Uddin Rumi As she knotted the reins and took her stand, the horse's soul came into her hand, and up from the mouth that held the steel came an innermost word, half thought, half feel.~paraphrased, John Masefield Fly Without Wings www.flywithoutwings.net Gestalt Practitioner www.gestaltcleveland.org The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: Melinda Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] sure! Melinda On Nov 19, 2007 8:25 PM, jen frame [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: jen frame [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Melinda, I am sure that one can find Kimberwicke bits for much less--like $35 or so. But those are made in Pakistan and some are decent and others are awful. The specific Kimberwicke I am refering to is a Myler bit, and Myler bits are expensive! The custom made Mylers are made in America and cost aproximately $140 or so. The pre-made Mylers are made in China, which I am not thrilled about, but the Myler brothers themselves inspect the Chinese made bits and have strict quality control, so they are probably the best Chinese made bits you could get. They too are expensive--like I said $110.00. Myler bits are supposedly worth the price! I'll let you know if I end up buying one, what I think of it, if you are interested. Jen On 11/19/07, Melinda Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Melinda Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kimberwicks cost $110?! Is that what you are saying? Mine was $25 or $35. just curious about that, Melinda Coaching with Melinda Schumacher, MD Personal Empowerment through Creative Expression and Equine Experiential Learning You wander from room to room hunting for the diamond necklace that is already around your neck. ~Jalal-Uddin Rumi As she knotted the reins and took her stand, the horse's soul came into her hand, and up from the mouth that held the steel came an innermost word, half thought, half feel.~paraphrased, John Masefield Fly Without Wings www.flywithoutwings.net Gestalt Practitioner www.gestaltcleveland.org The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
driving bits
This message is from: Carol Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do any of you drive with a Kimberwicke? I think my friend used one when he owned his Fjord. If it works well, then use it, I say. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
