RE: Import Bashing - Was CEM and Supporting American Fjord Breeders
This message is from: Karen Keith kkke...@hotmail.com For those who care, here goes. What attracted me to this unproven foreign youngstock? I wanted a white dun. That narrows the field drastically, as I'm sure you know, Bonnie, having been there yourself. So much for thousands of Fjords. Even at thousands, what percentage are for sale at any given time? Being able to look outside our borders increases the possibilities. With my foreign import, I was able to visit the farm and see several white duns from foals at side to yearlings, 2yos, 3yos, on up to the sire. I like having choice. I guess that's clear in my previous post. :^) I was able to have it in spades. Additionally, Eike and Suse Schoen-Petersen are long-time Fjord breeders, incredibly knowledgeable of international Fjord bloodlines, great conversationalists and just plain good folk. If you ask Eike a question, you're definitely going to get a full, complete and thoughtful answer and learn way more than you ever expected, whether it's Fjords, cattle, pigs, veterinary, Germany and Europe in general, and even the US. Good fun. Am I a breeder? I guess that depends on how this unproven foreign youngstock works out. But no, not up to now. Am I touchy? Yes, I suppose so. I've just made a huge purchase, some might say a gamble but all horses are a gamble, and I react to terms like unproven imported youngstock. How proven is any weanling horse? I guess we can look to its pedigree and parents' records. My filly's dam placed 1st in her 30-day performance test for Fjord mares as a 5yo in Germany. Okay, that's a plus. Last year, as a 13yo, she was declared overall champion horse at a Fjord show (70 horses) in northern Germany near the Danish border. Another plus. Eike recently regaled us with the results of my filly's sire at both Equitana and the German Jubilee Stallion Show at Essen a month or so ago. Plus, plus, plus. Finally, my filly has a record in her own right. As just a wobbly week-old baby, she scored highest of seven Fjord foals at the Fjord branding. Big fish, small pond, but definitely a plus. Then she went on several weeks later to place second in her filly class at the same show where her mama was champion. Again, plus. So is my import unproven? You bet she is. As was your little guy when you brought him home. What's the difference? A few thousand miles in transport when you come down to it. We have high hopes, but let's face it, all horses are a crapshoot. But she is a white dun, and that's what I wanted. And like you and your little guy, I believe my filly will some day be a positive influence on the gene pool of the American Fjord. Only time will tell. Good luck to us both. Finally, I was told by one American breeder, after hearing I was importing, that I was buying a pig in a poke. That put me off even looking at his stock, and I was in the market for a domestic Fjord as well. Found one last week, by the way, but had to go pretty far afield again, just not outside the country. So now I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of my little piggy and her domestic but unproven companion who will act as her nanny while she's growing up. Mike May, I'll be sending my check to join the NFHR today if I can get the printer working. Seems I've got some horses to register, hey? Cheers! Karen, No. VA _ View photos of singles in your area Click Here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fdating%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2 Fchannel%2Findex%2Easpx%3Ftrackingid%3D1046247_t=773166080_r=Hotmail_Endtex t_m=EXT Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Import Bashing - Was CEM and Supporting American Fjord Breeders
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR regist...@nfhr.com At 01:47 PM 4/22/2009, you wrote: Mike May, I'll be sending my check to join the NFHR today if I can get the printer working. Seems I've got some horses to register, hey? Sounds good Karen. We will be looking forward to having you as a new member. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:regist...@nfhr.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Import Bashing - Was CEM and Supporting American Fjord Breeders
This message is from: Karen Keith kkke...@hotmail.com Gee, it's a good thing the Morgan breeders didn't cop an anti-import attitude back in the 50s when the first Fjords were coming to America. I can see the Morgan people saying, Hey, whaddaya need a European all-purpose horse for when we've got the American equivalent right here, at least if you believe the Marguerite Henry Justin Morgan Had a Horse story. It occurs to me, from this piece that you have shared, that the most comprehensive control of this infectious disease is to STOP European importation, is that not correct? After all, every Fjord horse on the planet has an indisputably common ancestry. Therefore, one Fjord is the same as the next, I guess. So with that in mind it makes me wonder why one would buy young unproven stock from another country? When we have plenty to sell here in our own country? I can understand buying a licensed proven breeding animal that is used to improve the current stock, but if I were to buy young stock I would also like to see the my fellow breeders gain from it and keep some of the profits in the USA. Why would one buy from another country? Because it's a free market, we have free choice in the US. God Bless America. You would choose to buy young stock here; I chose to buy young stock overseas. Is this a great country or what? BTW, since keeping the profits in the USA is noted as a goal, I suppose buying young, unproven stock from a Canadian breeder would be verboten as well. Ouch-ka-bibble! Not very neighborly. Do I seem a bit tetchy on this subject? You betcha. It comes along as I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my young, unproven European stock. BTW, untrimmed posts don't bother me, so you won't see me cranky about that. Karen in Northern Virginia, still doing the Snoopy happy dance in anticipation of the new arrival. Just a few days left. _ Looking for a fresh way to share photos? Get the new Windows Live Messenger. http://download.live.com/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Import Bashing - Was CEM and Supporting American Fjord Breeders
This message is from: Starfire Farm starfiref...@usa.net Karen Keith wrote: Karen in Northern Virginia, still doing the Snoopy happy dance in anticipation of the new arrival. Just a few days left. I was lucky enough to see photos of Karen's new filly. She is GORGEOUS. The others are gorgeous as well. Well worth the wait. Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Import Bashing - Was CEM and Supporting American Fjord Breeders
This message is from: morrisshado...@aol.com Yes a bit touchy.Congrates on your new arrival. My post was not an import bash, but a batch of questions to help understand as a breeder our fjord market and to get more imput from other breeders. Yes it is a free country and you can buy what you want from where you want. A few questions if you don't mind? Are you a breeder? If yes how many foals do you usually have? What was the deciding factor that made you decide to purchase abroad vs hear?We do have thousands of Fjords and many diverse pedigrees? What made that foal more appealing to you? Yes buying in Canada is different from Europe as they are our neighbor.Keeping profits in the USA ( I was being patriotic and proud to help others grow in my own country) Yes my free choice. And yes I am supportive of improving breeding stock with Licensed proven imports. Bonnie Morris WA, Washington Why would one buy from another country? Because it's a free market, we have free choice in the US. God Bless America. You would choose to buy young stock here; I chose to buy young stock overseas. Is this a great country or what? BTW, since keeping the profits in the USA is noted as a goal, I suppose buying young, unproven stock from a Canadian breeder would be verboten as well. Ouch-ka-bibble! Not very neighborly. Do I seem a bit tetchy on this subject? You betcha. It comes along as I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my young, unproven European stock. Karen in Northern Virginia, still doing the Snoopy happy dance in anticipation of the new arrival. Just a few days left. _ Looking for a fresh way to share Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f