Re: new shoes
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear griet, it is a metallic element that comes in crystalized form. they mix it with a binder and form it into a stick. then the farrier breaks off small chunks of the sticks and places them on the bottoms of the shoes. first he spreads some flux on the shoe, then puts the borium chunk on that and heats it in a furnace. the borium melts and looks like mercury and runs along the flux layer. then he dunks the shoe in water and puts it on the horse's hoof. the crystalized borium makes chunky grippers for more tractiondenise in northern calif.
Re: new shoes
This message is from: "griet vandenbroucke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry to ask but what is Borium?? Griet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Denise Delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Datum: vrijdag 17 september 1999 22:20 Onderwerp: Re: new shoes >This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >dear dianne, >no pads, but that is a good idea, just shoes and the borium on the bottom >at the tip. have you noticed that their hooves grow slowly too? my trainer >and farrier both mentioned it too. denise d. > >
Re: new shoes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/19/99 12:41:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << My non horsey friends have criticized me to where I have just told them to keep it to themselves. So who is still going strong, well maybe only by my standards, has a real interest in life and feels good Horse people of course. >> Thanks, Jean! Words of wisdom well taken. Horses give us so much life, I can't imagine begin without them. Brigid
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, September 19, 1999 10:35 AM Subject: Re: new shoes > >> . I just laugh when non-horsey folks criticise >my expenditure of time and money. Like I'm the type to sit on the couch all >day, watching TV, thinking about how much money I have! > >Brigid in CA > Hey Brigid, you hit it on the nose. My non horsey friends have criticized me to where I have just told them to keep it to themselves. So who is still going strong, well maybe only by my standards, has a real interest in life and feels good Horse people of course. Jean
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/17/99 1:08:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I am entering a couple of classes. Please be kind to an older rider, who is getting into horses again. Don't laugh too loud Denise in Calif. >> How exciting! Best wishes and most of all, enjoy : ) What classes are you entering? At 28, I could be considered an "older rider," LOL, that is, starting from scratch as an adult. As a kid I could only enjoy horses from afar, so my new life is like a dream come true. I just laugh when non-horsey folks criticise my expenditure of time and money. Like I'm the type to sit on the couch all day, watching TV, thinking about how much money I have! Brigid in CA
Re: new shoes
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thanks marsha for your reply. it always helps to hear from other fjord owners about little worries we share in common. so far the borium is working very well. knute and i and quinn went out last night and he has adjusted to his new shoes and is very sparky with the cool weather too. he loves to trot and lope.denise in northern calif.
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This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> oh Denise!!! Enjoy the classes in Turlock and best of luck to you After going to Libby for my first time, I know I will be entering classes next year as well. And as for an older rider getting back into horses after a long while ... count me in!!! LOL -Original Message- From: Denise Delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, September 17, 1999 1:09 PM Subject: new shoes >This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hello list members, > >Today, my farrier applied some new shoes to my seven year old, Knute. Knute >is ouchy here, riding and runny on the hard sun-baked clay and rocks of >northern California. Especially after a trim job. So we are trying some >new shoes. They are a little wider to support the hoof wall and a little >thicker, cause he's a big boy. He also added some chucks of borium at the >tip to give him a little more traction on pavement. I ride him on pavement >out of our neighborhood to get him to rocky dirt paths to trail ride. (not >far, about 6 house lengths, don't worry). The farrier says the borium will >outlast the shoe. Does anyone have experience with borium for traction? >I'm going to ride him tonight when it is cooler. I 'll start out slow with >him, since he won't be used to the new stopping power he'll have. > >Thanks to all for the Libby updates. I sounded like a wonderful weekend. >Hope to attend next year. See you all at Turlock. I am entering a couple >of classes. Please be kind to an older rider, who is getting into horses >again. Don't laugh too loud Denise in Calif. > >
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This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Today, my farrier applied some new shoes to my seven year old, > Knute. Knute is ouchy here, riding and runny on the hard sun-baked > clay and rocks of northern California. [...] new shoes. They are a > little wider to support the hoof wall and a little thicker, cause he's > a big boy. He also added some chucks of borium at the tip to give him > a little more traction on pavement. [...] Does anyone have experience > with borium for traction? Years ago, my husband's Fjord gelding, Rom, was slipping a little on some of the local trails (mostly steep, sun-baked clay), so our farrier added a little borium on Rom's shoes. This caused Rom to take up stumbling, instead, as the "grab" of the borium caused his feet to stop before he expected them to. I figured that was a recipe for soft-tissue strains, so the next shoeing cycle, I told the shoer to lose the borium. Since then, we've used shoes with a wide groove in them, which seems to provide about the right amount of traction for trails. On the rare occasions that we ride on pavement, we simply give the Fjords a loose rein, and let them pick their way. Even "squirrel brain" slows down, doesn't make any sudden moves, and keeps his balance well. > have you noticed that their hooves grow slowly too? Our Fjords are variable. The old mare hardly grows any hooves at all---I joke that she's putting it all into hair, instead. My gelding is medium---not a lot of growth, but enough. My husband's gelding grows more than enough---he's usually tripping over his toes by shoeing time (every 7 weeks, which is a compromise amongst the various growth rates). Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. ---
Re: new shoes
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear dianne, no pads, but that is a good idea, just shoes and the borium on the bottom at the tip. have you noticed that their hooves grow slowly too? my trainer and farrier both mentioned it too. denise d.
Re: new shoes (Borium)
This message is from: "Sarah Vogeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- >From: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <<< The farrier says the borium will outlast the shoe. Does anyone have experience with borium for traction? >>> Borium is a product that our local mounted police unit uses on their horse shoes to prevent slipping on concrete or paved surfaces. It might also allow you to reset the same shoe at least once, depending on the amount of riding you do, or playing your horse does on his or her own. It's a great product, but it does add more cost to your shoeing bill! Good luck, Sarah
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This message is from: "Turcotte, Dianne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do you mean that you have pads with the shoes? I tried some wedged pads with my horse and they have made a world of difference. Since she tends to wear heels down first and grows very slowly, "high heels" turned out to be the solution for her. :) Dianne > -Original Message- > From: Denise Delgado [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 4:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: new shoes > > This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello list members, > > Today, my farrier applied some new shoes to my seven year old, Knute. > Knute > is ouchy here, riding and runny on the hard sun-baked clay and rocks of > northern California. Especially after a trim job. So we are trying some > new shoes. They are a little wider to support the hoof wall and a little > thicker, cause he's a big boy. He also added some chucks of borium at the > tip to give him a little more traction on pavement. I ride him on > pavement > out of our neighborhood to get him to rocky dirt paths to trail ride. > (not > far, about 6 house lengths, don't worry). The farrier says the borium > will > outlast the shoe. Does anyone have experience with borium for traction? > I'm going to ride him tonight when it is cooler. I 'll start out slow > with > him, since he won't be used to the new stopping power he'll have. > > Thanks to all for the Libby updates. I sounded like a wonderful weekend. > Hope to attend next year. See you all at Turlock. I am entering a couple > of classes. Please be kind to an older rider, who is getting into horses > again. Don't laugh too loud Denise in Calif.
new shoes
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello list members, Today, my farrier applied some new shoes to my seven year old, Knute. Knute is ouchy here, riding and runny on the hard sun-baked clay and rocks of northern California. Especially after a trim job. So we are trying some new shoes. They are a little wider to support the hoof wall and a little thicker, cause he's a big boy. He also added some chucks of borium at the tip to give him a little more traction on pavement. I ride him on pavement out of our neighborhood to get him to rocky dirt paths to trail ride. (not far, about 6 house lengths, don't worry). The farrier says the borium will outlast the shoe. Does anyone have experience with borium for traction? I'm going to ride him tonight when it is cooler. I 'll start out slow with him, since he won't be used to the new stopping power he'll have. Thanks to all for the Libby updates. I sounded like a wonderful weekend. Hope to attend next year. See you all at Turlock. I am entering a couple of classes. Please be kind to an older rider, who is getting into horses again. Don't laugh too loud Denise in Calif.
Re: New shoes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/3/99 4:17:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Brigid, for your freshly shod horses, if you suspect you have a problem with a new shoeing, check out each foot. >> Thanks Dave! I will do this check today. I am very satisfied with my farrier and do not suspect problems, but I always like to rule out each possibility. Brigid
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This message is from: Jenn Hammon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi this is Kay. It could also be that if they have pads that they have a sore under the pad. My friends horse had one of those. The farrier opened it up and drande it out and he is doing alot better. Thanks Kay. --- Dave McWethy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Dave McWethy" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Brigid, for your freshly shod horses, if you suspect > you have a problem with > a new shoeing, check out each foot. Lift the > horse's foot and with a light > hammer, lightly tap each of the nail heads. You can > also lightly tap each > clench. If the farrier has placed a nail in an area > that is sensitive, the > horse will flinch when you hit the right one. > > If the horse has pads, and a little time has gone > by, it is possible that > sand or tiny gravel can get inside a pad and cause a > sensitive spot on a > sole particularly if the sole might be pared a > little too much. > > If there is no pad, a stone bruise is always > possible, and again, is more > likely if the sole is thin. > > Other than that, notice heat anywhere around the > hoof. If you spot an area > and are not sure, pour water or alcohol on the hoof, > and see where it dries > quickest. > > I hope the problem has gone away by itself already! > > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
New shoes
This message is from: "Dave McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brigid, for your freshly shod horses, if you suspect you have a problem with a new shoeing, check out each foot. Lift the horse's foot and with a light hammer, lightly tap each of the nail heads. You can also lightly tap each clench. If the farrier has placed a nail in an area that is sensitive, the horse will flinch when you hit the right one. If the horse has pads, and a little time has gone by, it is possible that sand or tiny gravel can get inside a pad and cause a sensitive spot on a sole particularly if the sole might be pared a little too much. If there is no pad, a stone bruise is always possible, and again, is more likely if the sole is thin. Other than that, notice heat anywhere around the hoof. If you spot an area and are not sure, pour water or alcohol on the hoof, and see where it dries quickest. I hope the problem has gone away by itself already!
