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[Sarah Donchi - Kenai Feed]

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I will be out of town and in limited communication range until September
20th. For immediate assistance call Kenai Feed at 907-283-1929. I will
respond to emails as soon as possible.

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Hi everyone from   boiling, muggy, buggy Southwest Florida,

I thought some of
you may be   interested in an update about a horse that some of you followed
on a blog that   was posted by Lori Albrough as she retrained him from October
2011 to July   2012. Most of you know this horse by his barn name, Levi. Levi
is a 2006   (Felix X Nagia) fjord gelding bred by Marg Kerr, and sold as an
untrained   horse. He had an unsuccessful first training experience with
his first owner and her chosen trainer and was retrained by Lori Albrough. I
purchased   him in July 2012 and have been working with him since that time.
After his   initial adjustment period, he has made very good progress and this
weekend went to   his first show--a recognized dressage show at Fox Lea Farms
which is the main   show venue on the more southern west coast of Florida. We
could not be   more proud of him as he won his class with a 65.5% at Training
Level with a rider for whom this   was also her first recognized dressage show
! He
 was completely good   and did not put a foot wrong. In fact, my other
gelding who I rode in the show, and is the same age, was much more difficult,
despite having been   out more than Levi. It was also Magnus' first recognized
dressage show, but he   has been to a few schooling shows before, whereas Levi
had not ever been to a show of any kind before this one. We are anticipating
more success with this   guy, as he really seems to take going places pretty
much in stride and actually   sometimes seems to work better away than at
home. It seems to kind of  "wake him up" a bit without causing him to be out
of control. Since we started taking him   to clinics and now to a show, he is
seeming to take his job much more seriously.    I have asked Lori to update
his blog with some pictures and maybe even a   little video if possible, and
will post the link when the update is available. 

Keep cool,
Robin in
southwest   Florida 

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this was posted on our local training blog…..

The featured breed for the fall issue of the Cross Country magazine is the
Fjord. If you have a Fjord and compete in dressage and eventing and would
like it featured in the next issue, please contact Sarah Whiteley at
sbliss.white...@gmail.com (with your name, your horses name and what
discipline/level) by August 1st. 

Sarah Bliss Whiteley

MWI Veterinary Supply

Outside Sales Representative

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Cell: 763-276-3340

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On behalf of the FjordHorse List family I would like to extend
sincere condolences to Fred Pack for his recent great loss. Since Fred's
messages are currently being monitored, I am passing along one from him
which was filtered by the server earlier today.

-- 
Steve
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC

=

Thanks to all

Although this is not Fjord related, I would like to post something
that my son wrote on Facebook:

"Jeff Pack
My Mom Lois Pack passed away at 6:42qm this morning after a long bout
with respiratory issues. She came home from the hospital wednesday to
pass away in familiar surroundings, and not a stark hospital
environment. I can relate to that.

Anyways, I was fortunate enough to have seen her last night and say
good bye, expecting that would be last time I'd see her, but hoping
otherwise

I was afraid heading up there to the house, my last memory of her
would be her laying there on a bed all frail looking.

But when I came in, she awoke briefly, her face lit up, and she smiled
ear to ear, then returned to whatever limbo she temporarily came out.

That'll always be my last memory of her.

Be happy mom. you are in a better place now."

Fred

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[Jo Wilgus]

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REGN stops on trail to have people make over her. attention w. i do 
believe they learn much faster than other breeds, i attribute this to pure 
breeding. i do not feed snacks by hand unless we have trailered out and they 
are tied to the trailer. that is just MY way of doing things, does not mean 
correct or incorrect.


people DO love the fjord. if i was a breeder i feel strongly i could have 
folks in my neighborhood buying fjords. they like the way they go down the 
trails, wind blowing, dogs barking etc and the fjords look at the whatever 
as a simple annoyance. not to mention how incredibly beautiful REGN is.


bonnie... who knows what the reason was for his behavior, but go back and 
try it again. maybe try no treats?


jo wilgus
gavilan hills, ca going to be a nice eve for a ride


  ,, people flocked out of nowhere to converge on the
Fjord and crowded around him...sound familiar? They made much of him and 
Stine
Gutten just eats it up...loves the attention. >   Always a learning 
experience. And the judging was excellent  and fair.

  I am still amazed at the numbers of people who have never seen  a Fjord
before.

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Hi everyone and thanks for your thoughts and ideas. 
   
   I'm too old to be embarassed by the early start and I wasn't  worried 
about it, but I do remember that when we left the arena and went back to  
waiting for the real bell, people flocked out of nowhere to converge on the  
Fjord and crowded around him...sound familiar? They made much of him and Stine  
Gutten just eats it up...loves the attention. He probably didn't want to 
leave  the group of adoring fans "Maybe there's a treat in one of their 
hands?" I think  his brain was focused on getting back there to all the 
attention, 
too.
   Always a learning experience. And the judging was excellent  and fair.
   I am still amazed at the numbers of people who have never seen  a Fjord 
before. I warned my instructor (who went with me) about the inevitable  
questions and attention, but I don't think she was fully prepared. We even had 
a 
 car follow us into a gas station to ask what kind of stripey horse was in 
the  trailer.
 
Bonnie in Fl

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[Robyn Kevlin]

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However we all feel about the circus, seeing the Fjord was fun. Thanks for 
sending the link! 

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[Amy Evers]

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I thought Fjords were the only horses with a dorsal stripe
unning through the mane, making it bi-color.




Nope... ANY dun horse will have a bi colored mane (and tail) to some extent.
Fjords do have the most prominent definition of black and white in the mane
though.

Amy Evers
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Cottage Grove OR 97424

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[Robyn Kevlin]

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Tarpan (Heck Horse): I thought Fjords were the only horses with a dorsal stripe 
running through the mane, making it bi-color. I just read that Tarpans also 
have dorsal stripes that give them bi-color manes (they are dun, and the stripe 
runs down to the tail). There are pics and everything. What's the scoop? 

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[Robyn Kevlin]

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Congrats to Margaret! If somebody shoots video, would love to see it. I'm a 
brand-newbie to Fjords, and enjoy seeing all the ways they participate with 
their riders. And speaking of posting videos... 


I think the YouTube "FjordChannel" would be great - nobody I know (vets 
included) had ever seen one before I got Gaven, so I forwarded the AllTech 
video widely. How much more fun to have videos with Fjords as "real horses" 
instead of "kid's ponies". I'm with Karen on the moderation, though - having 
the videos sent to someone for approval would be a good idea. 


And third in the video category, thanks for sending that Lusitano clip. You're 
right - with a little creative editing, that horse could have been a Fjord... 
even the crupper added to the illusion. And wow! Was that guy secure in his 
seat. I can only dream of riding like that. I'm sure Gaven hopes I never learn 
- she'd have to WORK. ;0) 

Robyn Kevlin 
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[ben FELDMAN]

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Hello list,

 

I'm looking for a new home for Bryhyl Noah, who's  just 9 years old. He's a
friendly, curious horse, with lots of potential; a good mover, although
sometimes impetuous. I've had him 4 years, and used him in the woods under
saddle. Have done no driving. He's entering the prime of his life just as
I'm leaving the prime of mine, though, and he's not contented to hike Granny
and the kids around the trails at a walk; he needs a younger, more active
and focused rider than I am. If interested in learning more about him,
please email me privately at  bfeld...@mass.rr.com

 

Thanks much, and happy fjording to all!

 

Susie Feldman

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[Laura Kranzusch]

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[Shannon Kaplan]

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I had a student arrive for her lesson already wearing her helmet.  I
approached the car and told her mom about the message that must have sent to
passing motorists about her driving :)

The first time my old-timer farmer neighbor saw us out trail riding he asked,
"Are those dangerous horses?", never did see anyone ride with helmets
before,.times, they are a changin'.

Happy and Safe riding to the Fjord Family.

Shannon Kaplan

Chehalem Mountain Therapy Riding Center, Inc

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[Beth]

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Cutest ornament .. I have bought three and they are precious... better in
person than even the picture shows. I notice she has some other fjord things
now too.. Just in no one has found this site thought I'd pass it on again.
I find the email hacking kind of scary.. I hate knowing whoever it is has my
email address now..:(

Beth
in Maine



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[Jackie]

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2 1/2 yr old Registered Norwegian Fjord Mare For Sale
Asking $1500.00, Up to date on all vaccines & coggins, good for farrier, 
ready for training.  Located in Iola Wisconsin.
If interested e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[fjordamy]

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I have for sale a very nice 14 year old mare, a 2 year old gelding and two 
weanling colts. Any one interested may contact me for more info. Sorry, I am 
NOT "giving" them away...

I also have a like new pairs harnes, breast collar (hungarian style) made by 
Smucker's harness.

Contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Thanks...

Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Oregon

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[schnabl]

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homoeopathics for huge udder 

I mostly use homoeopathic remedies for my horses (and all the other critters 
in my household,including people,too)

I have treated painfully swollen udders successfully with Phytolacca CH 12
or CH 3.
That works well for the weaning stage,too. 


Uli

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[jgayle]

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Wow, was trying to see if I could copy the names in my email "contact" file
and it just flashed by.  Hope I have not created a mess!!  Jean






Author of:
'The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949
Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press
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Aberdeen, WA 98520

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[Marge or Dennis]

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Electric Fencers and Fjords
 I have used only electric fencers and single steel wire for my Fjords for
over 20 years and would not go any other way. The only problem I have is the
occasional moose that tears it down once in a while. Even the local moose
respect it and will either jump it or go around it. The fence can be down for
several days and the horses will not attempt to cross it. They hear the
snapping of the wire on the ground and that is enough to turn them away.
 For those of you who are having problems you may just need a more powerful
fencer. There are many different brands made but they are all supposed to go
by a standard measure of energy output called "joules". You usually pay an
increased price for extra power. I will not buy a fencer with less than nine
joules of power, which for quite a few years was the most powerful one you
could buy. I understand that there is a thirteen joule fencer made now. That
would knock your socks off. Several nine joule fencers state that they will
accommodate 50 miles of fence and also shock through weeds. Best to keep the
fence line clear though. The dial on the most fencers will tell you if you
have a short in the fence or the power is compromised by too many weeds etc..
I use a Parmak (50 miler)  and I haven't found a Fjord yet that will test my
fence more than once.
 Email me privately for more info.
Dennis Johnson

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[Jackie]

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Registered Fjord Horses For Sale or Trade

1-18 month old filly; halter broke, good for farrier, up to date on all 
vaccines, asking $1000.00

1-13 yr old mare; has had 4 babies in the past, is broke to ride & has had 30 
days of professional training, up to date on all vaccines, asking $2500.00

Looking to sale the above 2 horses or would be willing to trade them for 1 Kid 
Safe gelding

Located in Wisconsin

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[ben FELDMAN]

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Dad wants you to know that he and the boys ( JZ and Aidan) took the TV in to
Suzor's to be serviced today. They will give us an estimate, and we'll go
from there.

Hope you had a good couple of days at XM, and that Lynne's first two days at
work were exhilarating, fun  and rewarding...be seeing you as soon as we
canagain!~

Dad and I are thinking about popping down some time in July to NYC, so we
can take Rebecca out to dinner, and also go to the Metropolitan and Natural
history Museums. What does your schedule look like for that month!

 

Be talkin' to ya!

Mom

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[WBauwens]

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In response to cross country transporters...WOW, with the price of fuel and  
continual increases in the cost of living, transportation costs and the 
quality  thereof can vary tremendously.  I can recommend a fellow, Pat Downing 
of  
Downing Transport who makes the long distance trek regularly.  Pat is NEVER  in 
a hurry, takes VERY good care of the animals (he has even been known to  
transport goats and sheep) and gets them to their destination safely.  He  is 
not 
nationwide (with the air ride vans, etc) BUT, he is very reasonable and I  
suggest that anyone who is looking to transport critters should call him.   He 
is 
based out of Arizona and Kentucky, but when you are all over the  country, 
you are based everywhere and have a girl in every port!  I have  been doing 
some 
local trips that will continue throughout the summer and fall  and will be 
headed south in November with room.  I am BASED out of SW  Montana and like to 
keep my trips in the 500-700 mile radius of home.  
Contact Pat Downing for long hauls, 602-717-6577
Contact Wendy Bauwens for NW and Montana (and surrounding states) trips  
406-223-6933
 
Happy Trails.
Wendy and the Sunnyside crew where Fords, Clydes and Corgis are  sunbathin'



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[Mail]

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Lisa wrote,

It HAS been a horrible start to the Nations fire season already. Jeff,
who is a 28 yr. Firefighter / Paramedic for Orange Co. Fire Authority,

 

If Jeff is 28 so am I !!! LOL

My thoughts are with him and give him thanks for putting his life on
line for other people day in and day out.


Cheryl in Colorado

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[WBauwens]

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I have NEVER seen or experienced a corgi to be a handful.  Other  herding 
breeds, yes...for sure...borders and heelers often live up to their  
reputations 
as being high strung and not great with kids ( in that order )...but  
generalizations are not good.  These corgis LOVE people...and my "yearling"  
adores 
every single small person that comes along.  He even lowers his head  into his 
shoulders and wags his tail in pleasure and submission.  Howdy was  never a 
handful...he has been a delight.  The energy that the owner puts  into the dog 
that makes them what they are.  Just the same with  horses.  Its often not the 
horse that is the problem.  It  is the human handler creating a problem that, 
in return, is  displayed in the behavior of the horse.
In general, I believe Corgis to be excellent dogs in every way.  They  are 
not Golden Retrievers, nor are they a Great Pyrenees...but then again...nor  
they are not blue heelers or a Jack Russell.  We all have our breed  
preferences...but I personally see no faults!



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[jerrell friz]

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HELLO ALL, I SENT THIS TO ALL THE EMPOWERED WOMEN I KNOW.  ( AND I MAN, HE HAS
THE SICKNESS TOO)  DIANNE

The one man is me, Jerry





Love this!  Doesn't it feel like summer and a little dust kicking up, the
little "fairies" dancing on the sunlight beams, the wonderful smell of horse
sweat and the satisfaction at the end of the day?



Ahh.

_ A Simple Statement "I Ride"

I ride.  That seems like such a simple statement.  However as many women who
ride know it is really a complicated matter.  It has to do with power and
empowerment.  Being able to do things you might have once considered out of
reach or ability.  I have considered this as I shovel manure, fill water
barrels in the cold rain, wait for the vet/farrier/electrician/hay delivery,
change a tire on a horse trailer by the side of the freeway, or cool a gelding
out before getting down to the business of drinking a cold beer after a long
ride.

The time, the money, the effort it takes to ride calls for dedication.
At least I call it dedication.  Both my ex-husbands call it 'the sickness'.
It's a sickness I've had since I was a small girl bouncing my model horses and
dreaming of the day I would ride a real horse.  Most of the women I ride with
understand the meaning of 'the sickness'.  It's not a sport.  It's not a
hobby.  It's what we do and, in some ways, who we are as women and human
beings.

I ride.  I hook up my trailer and load my gelding.  I haul to some trailhead
somewhere, unload, saddle, whistle up my dog and I ride.  I breathe in the
air, watch the sunlight filter through the trees and savor the movement of my
horse.  My shoulders relax.  A smile rides my sunscreen smeared face.  I pull
my ball cap down and let the real world fade into the tracks my horse leaves
in the dust.

Time slows.  Flying insects buzz loudly, looking like fairies.  My gelding
flicks his ears and moves down the trail.  I can smell his sweat and it is
perfume to my senses.  Time slows.  The rhythm of the walk and the movement of
the leaves become my focus.  My saddle creaks and the leather rein in my hand
softens with the warmth.

I consider the simple statement; I ride.  I think of all I do because I ride.
Climb granite slabs, wade into a freezing lake, race a friend through the
manzanita all the while laughing and feeling my heart in my chest.  Other days
just the act of mounting and dismounting can be a real accomplishment.  Still
I ride, no matter how tired or how much my seat bones or any of the numerous
horse related injuries hurt.  I ride.
And I feel better for doing so.

The beauty I've seen because I ride amazes me.  I've ridden out to find lakes
that remain for the most part, unseen.  Caves, dark and cold beside rivers
full and rolling are the scenes I see in my dreams.  The Granite Stairway at
Echo Summit, bald eagles on the wing and bobcats on the prowl add to the
empowerment and joy in my heart.

I think of the people, mostly women, I've met.  I consider how competent they
all are.  Not a weenie amongst the bunch.  We haul 40ft rigs, we back into
tight spaces without clipping a tree.  We set up camp.
Tend the horses.  We cook and keep safe.  We understand and love our
companions, the horse.  We respect each other and those we encounter on the
trail.  We know that if you are out there riding, you also shovel, fill, wait
and doctor.  Your hands are a little rough and you travel with out makeup or
hair gel.  You do without to afford the 'sickness' and probably, when you were
a small girl, you bounced a model horse while you dreamed of riding a real
one.


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[Lee Hardin]

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Hello everyone,

For all of you making plans for the spring, we would like to invite you to 
consider the 2007 Fjords & Friends Fun Fest. Here is our website. 
www.jerseyjeepncustoms.com/fjordfest/index.html  The fall edition of the Herald 
has an article about  2006.
Information about the location of the fest can be found at 
www.blowingrockequestrian.com/ You might like to check out the special events 
page and the calendar. 

Have a very Merry Christmas,
Lee Hardin

from the mountain of North Carolina where it doesn't feel like winter, yet!!

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[wriddle]

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CONGRATULATIONS to Dan and Solveig Watanabe of Olivia Farm.

Their Fall Fjord Festival drew a very nice crowd on Sept 30. In 
only a year Dan and Solveig have made great progress in
developing their new farm north of Spokane. The miles of forest 
roads/trails constructed by Dan provided a great tour for the trail 
riders and the carts/wagons. We have a gracious group of Fjord 
owners in this area and they shared their carts and wagons with
visitors who don't yet own Fjords. Some guests were treated to
a sample of driving a single or pair of Fjords for the first time in
the large open field surrounding Dan and Solveig's dressage arena.
The noon intermission for german sausages, chicken breasts and 
hamburgers hit the spot. Thanks also to Mother Nature for 
providing perfect weather for the day.

Sylvia Riddle, Teddy Bear Fjords, Spokane 

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[BaileysFjords]

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Hello everyone, Fred,
 
Fred, my condolences to you regarding the Libby show.  I am thinking,  
especially after reading Warren's last post, that a few people simply do not  
understand the energy, time, effort, money, etc., that you and others put into  
your 
Fjords and also the trip itself just getting to Libby.
 
I know you have gone to Libby previously and remember you telling us  
wonderful things about your experiences.  It is appalling to hear of what  you 
went 
through this year.  To top it off, a devastating statement to the  future of 
the Libby show has been made when Warren, an ex NFHR BOD member and a  member 
of 
the Pacific Northwest groupisn't he or his wife also an officer of  that 
group?make jest of your experience by the below comment:

<>
 
Obviously what is needed is a bit less of the god complex scenario going on  
and more of the friendly and knowledgeable gathering of Fjord folks as has 
been  done in years past.
 
Again Fred, I am sorry to hear this happened to you.  
 
Lynda

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[wriddle]

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Hey there Fred

Reference: Post --- Barred from competition at Libby………

I have read your post several times and then I outlined it and studied your
post very carefully from many different aspects and angles. I think what you
are trying to say Fred, is summed in the following statement -- THERE WAS
NOT ENOUGH CHOCOLATE AT THE LIBBY SHOW SITE THIS YEAR!!!.
Fred, we should all get together for a really big group hug!

Hugs, Warren Riddle in Spokane

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[wriddle]

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Hi All!!

Well, well, my, my, a friend called to talk some business and mentioned some
Jon Doe had attacked the Easter Bunny, motherhood and some of our excellent
Fjord friends in PNFPG. My friend offered to forward the E-mail to me but I
told him “naw”, I was not interested in what Jon Doe had to say, and
besides I like the Easter Bunny. I went on to say to my good friend, “if Jon
has anything intelligent to say about the proposal to move the Libby Montana
Show to MosesLake in central Washington, I sure am interested”!
Could I suggest to PNFPG members that the time is ripe for discussion of
changes and they can be very exciting changes which have not one dog-goned
thing to do with personalities or any one individual. We need fine
intellectual minds to prevail. We need analytical discussion that considers
history, current members and the future of the PNFPG.We need good logical
comments from all PNFPG members whom we can get to contribute politely to this
process.
We need to be less pessimistic.Remember that old saying:Think you can.Think
you can’t.Either way you’ll be right.If we stay at Libby things will go
well because of the good energy of our people or if we move to MosesLake or
even Haps, as suggested by Woody Hoopes on Aug 29, all will go well because
PNFPG members will make it go well.So relax and put your thinking caps on as
we should make the very best decision we possibly can. Acid, caustic, and mean
spirited rhetoric does not help matters but hinders our thoughts and distracts
us from the substance of this important decision.We need a logical vote at our
PNFPG November 4th meeting and a spirit of friendly cooperation before and
after that vote.
To those of you who seem to believe in “Win Friends and Influence People
through rudeness and intimidation” I have a bed-time story for you. “The
Three Bears”Papa bear says the porridge is too cold  Momma bear says the
porridge is too hot and Baby bear says b, b, b, that is all I ever
hear.
At Libby I visited with a real nice lady and her curmudgeon hubby.He mentioned
that he had once tried thinking but nothing happened!Lighten up folks!Lets
THINK clearly because we will vote this issue on November 4 in Yakima.Voting
is what we do in America.

Take Care,Warren in Spokane

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[Mary love]

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can any one please tell me how to take my self off the list.. I have learned a
lot from you all but seeing as I have been singled out as a cross breeder and
all (yes I saw the big discussion about my dream horse add) I need a break
from you all . I am a good person really and love my animals very much.. I
would have  really preferred a little kindness and some one just coming to me
and talking to me but you all just talk about peopl e like they are not on
your level...I encourage any one to talk to me like another horse loving
person I really do have a lot to offer!! and I encourage you all to look and
talk to the person that you are trying to find messing up cause kindness goes
a lot farther then being mean does... thank you Mary love

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[wriddle]

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Hi Fjord Friends,
We have a favorite old mare named Fjell. Her daughter is possibly our best
conformation mare. Both sweeties. We find ourselves wishing we had photos of
old Fjell in her prime, or maybe photos or information about her sire, dam and
related horses. If any of you have information or photos I would appreciate
it, just for fun.
Fjell 6/27/80
Breeder Swede Granstrom Buffalo Wyoming
Sire Gorm Dam Solvfrid
Thanks, Sylvia Riddle, Teddy Bear Fjords, Spokane

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[wriddle]

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Hi All,
I just took a quick look at the photos Sandy took in Denmark. Wow, like a trip
thru the candy shop or an art gallery. Well, just WOW. Log in you Fjord
lovers. Looking forward to Sandy and Beth's report in the next Fjord Herald.
Also just spent some time with Kathi Thompson who has some new training
credentials. She will be submitting an article to Fjord Herald. She is
representing Fjords in the training world in a big way.
Fjords, don't we all love them.
Sylvia Riddle, Teddy Bear Fjords, Spokane

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[Susan Felix]

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Susan from Colorado,  I really wish you all a great time at the event.  I and
my friend wish we could go ,but can't.  Hostar is my geldings grandfather and
my gelding looks and acts a lot like him.  I feel very fortunate that I have a
special boy.  Hostar is a wonderful horse.  I did a lot of research on him and
was very pleased that my gelding has his direct line.  Ramsey is very special
and and surprises me everyday with his new talents!!

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[Mary love]

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does any one have fjords for sale in washington??? im looking to get a few
mares broke or notthank you!!

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[wriddle]

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Hey there Ruthie,
You are right about my need to more carefully quote you- so I will quote
you verbatim. Ruthie writes“….I dare say UPDATING has merit as I'm sure
Genetics 101 has moved along since we were pups!” (Hey Ruthie, my mirror
lies.I am still a young pup.)Sorry Ruthie, Genetics 101 is basically the same
course as it was 50 years ago. For example the integral and differential
calculus is just the same as Isaac Newtons first dissertation on that subject
in 1650.It would be studied in any beginning course in genetics today at any
modern university!
Ruthie writes “The Fresian hypothesis indicates three indisputable FACTS to
me;” Ruthie, the main indisputable fact is that the Fresian breeders had
been unwilling to cull out the undesirable genes from their breeding
pool Now they are suffering from those bad decisions.They have serious
problems and they want to sweep these problems under the rug (so to speak) or
hide those bad genes by masking them (hopefully) with dominant healthy genes
introduced by cross-breeding.
You know Ruthie, Fjord people in the U.S. have an eval program to encourage,
not demand, the weeding out of the poorer genes. Some breeders make use of the
formal evaluations as a guideline.Others simply seek to make entirely their
own decisions to breed only the better mares and stallions. Yet we will always
have some with a mindset of wanting to breed horses with a lesser gene
quality.They argue against Evals for emotional or economic reasons. Ruthie,
you know I have several wonderful riding/driving geldings that are not
fantastic phenotypes but I will keep them and love them and make good use of
them. So I understand at least to some degree, how people can make emotional
decisions about gelding a nice but not fantastic Fjord. You have made the
decision to geld nearly a dozen colts rather than send more stallions out into
the Fjord world.But you argue otherwise.You argue as if almost every colt
should become a breeding stallion and no one stallion should have numerous
progeny.If you really believed in genetic diversity would your nice stallion
A2Z Thorson have 20 progeny by only 7 mares?Should his sire A2Z Thor have 22
progeny?Do you think it is wrong for the Fjord breed that his grand-sire,
Gjest, has 92 progeny?Where is genetic diversity practiced in your own Fjord
world?
Ruthie writes “…..As ANY animal science university professor will tell you
. . .” Ruthie, you seem to imply you have literally spoken to dozens of
animal science university professors about this genetic diversity topic.I have
not, even though in our family we have 3 WSU grad veterinarians and two of
them have taught at the WSU vet school.I ain’t never had no university
professor ever tell me Fjords are having trouble with their gene pool and/or
the Fjord breed needs more stallions. Furthermore, I sold, several months ago,
to a WSU animal science professor a Fjord mare. Yep, he paid a bundle for her
and I have visited with he and his family 6-7 times since then and they are,
of course, thrilled with such a kind, obedient and loving Fjord. (hmmm
 kind, obedient and loving -- a result of inbreeding) They even
made a special trip to the Ride The West All Breed Expo to see more of our
Fjords and relate their family’s total happiness.

So Ruthie, I have had no experience with anyone but you saying Fjords need
more stallions.Even regarding the Friesian breed I have no information which
tells me that the answer is simply MORE stallions.I know of no-one but you who
has said:
“they scientifically KNOW that they need MORE stallions, not less.As ANY
animal science university professor will tell you.”

Ruthie, I ALWAYS enjoy your posts!!! Thank you, Warren in Spokane

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[wriddle]

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Hi Ruthie Fred and all,

A special thanks for your contributions on the gene pool (genetic diversity)
discussion of the Fjord horse!! First let me apologize to Ruthie and Fred
for not getting back to your really good comments in a timely manner. I am
sure you know by now we were up to our ears in a Fjords-only Clinic for
combined driving here at Teddy Bear’s. MmmLove those FjordsLove
those Fjord owners.

I should admit that Ruthie has encouraged me to be involved with the
discussion for the Fjord gene pool for a long time and I have simply been lazy
- preferring to spend time with my Fjords.But now perhaps the time is ripe
for me to become mentor to Ruthie and Fred.Certainly we all must admit that
Ruthie has brought some very important concerns about the horse we all
loveSylvia and I both love Gene and Ruthie and would count them as some of
the very best people in our Fjord world. We have had pleasant business
dealings with them.Even though we respect and revere Gene and Ruthie it does
not mean we agree with Ruthie’s hypothesis that our Fjord gene pool has a
lot of undesirable genetic material.
I have read and studied the Frisian retained placenta site and would encourage
anyone who has an interest is this line of discussion to study and try to
fathom how complicated all the mathematics of genetics are, especially in this
article referenced by Ruthie. I would complement Ruthie (She has a fine mind)
for going to the summary of all the extremely complicated math and statistical
analysis. It is the summary that brings the message to us that we all can
understand!But now let me respond farmer style for a second --- the
Frisiangene pool sucks big time with regards to retained placenta.The Ausie
dog gene pool sucks for a number of problems.Let’s be real blunt.Both Ausie
and Frisian breeders have a very real need to out-breed to introduce healthy
dominate genes to cover the bad recessive genes that are showing their very
ugly sucky heads !
Ruthie wrote “I am sure science has moved on past Gregor Mendel’s (1850)
work “(quoted from memory)NOPE -Ruthie, Mendelian principles are like
Newton’s laws of physics.Gravity is still gravity and will not
change.Mendel’s principals have not changed.They describe the reality of
genetics.That is why even today we call Mendel the father of genetics .Ruthie
consider viewing your personal gene pool concerns only thru the scientific
facts of the Mendelian principles. Otherwise throw science to the wind and
base your concerns on what?
Fred, thank you for taking my side on this discussion.But Fred, the way this
game is played on this site is not just to state -- “saying there is a
problem when there is not a problem”. (quoted from memory)The discussions
move forward based on logic, facts, science, perhaps some humor and heart-felt
opinion  preferably devoid of personality issues. So, Fred, an
authoritative statement that someone is wrongdoes not add to this site in a
meaningful way even though you seem now to agree with me on the topic of
genetic diversity.
To stimulate conversation I may soon submit an article
tongue-in-cheek- of why we should in-breed our Fjords.Perhaps I will
follow C.A.’s format about heresy.

P. S. Quotes above are from memory and intended to be as accurate as
possible.

Warren in Spokane

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[wriddle]

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Hi Fred and all,

Fred, I am reminded of one of my college professors who would come into class
and bellow out “another attack against the massive wall of ignorance”. So
thanks Fred, for sharing about my formatting but you got it incorrect. The
problem is in a couple of the servers as it is a business environment and I
have not been incline, for security reasons, to make changes but perhaps in
the future.

Also Fred, you wrote under the subject line "Re: genetic diversity" something
about “man/woman” is this some kind of genetic diversity thing Some
kind of a cross I am aware genetic material is often transferred by sex
--- is that where you were going? Sorry Fred I do not get it  so fill
me in Fred!
Take Care Warren Riddle in SpokaneWA

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[wriddle]

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Hey there Steve,

I guess I should apologize for referencing breeding Fjords to Zebras - you
know, Steve, I guess it was a truly stupid statement I made -- Certainly
it was intended as a joke.But obviously it prejudiced some reactions.If you
are into genetics it is really is quite funny!
I am so surprised, but, perhaps I am wrong, You wrote “ He (C.A.)is
addressing a very real problem with Aussies and many other purebred dog
breeds, not lack of members or funds, but very real, frightening genetic
defects showing up in increasing numbers in successive generations of pups”
You know Steve when people leave out the details we all may think we have
reason for concern.If C.A. had written “ 2% of our pups are having
frightening genetic defects, while in the dog breeding industry twenty years
ago the average for defects was 0.1%”, that would get my attention but when
the details are left out -- why
Next you wrote “…with an eye to maintaining sufficient genetic diversity
to eliminate it.”Steve tell me.Do good genes cure problems or does genetic
diversity cure problems? What is in genetic diversity that causes good
traits??? Answer, nothing at all unless there are good traits in the diversity
that are missing in the problem group of animals.Am I missing the point about
good genes? If we are diverse enough, do bad genes turn into good genes?
We do have quite a variety of patrons on this site and I would guess with the
exception of two people who have different agendas - everyone (Ruthie
included) would agree that the North America Fjord horse has tons of superior
genes. If we were to out-cross, what in the world makes any of us think that
in this out-cross we would only get the good genes from the mating. In a silly
example if we mate a Fjord with 95% excellent genes with a horse from another
breed with 87% good genes do you think the progeny will have 100% excellent
genes??
Here is another example.If we have a breeder whose Fjords have a particular
problem, should he be breeding them at all or turning them into pets.Why would
you even breed a “line” that had problems.If you had problems with the
offspring of a stallion or mare, why would you want to cross-breed it?How
could you even be sure that an out-cross would cure the problem?To redraw my
example, why would you cross a Fjord with 85% good traits to a horse of
another breed with 80% or 100% good traits.Why would you cross-breed the Fjord
at all?There are plenty of Fjords with 95% good traits.
OK, so it has been stated that there were severe problems with the Aussies
although we don’t seem to know if it was in 0.01% or 10% of the pups.Let’s
not just say the sky is falling or might fall in regards to Fjords.Let’s
focus.Is one of the contributors to this list asserting that there are now
actual defects in the Fjord gene pool?What are they?How often do they occur?Do
they occur at all among any major “lines” or “breeders”?So, let’s
assume one of the contributors to this list asserts an actual current
problem.What breed must be introduced into the Fjord breed to cure the alleged
problem?If there are no problems are we just “Chicken Little”?
I think in the absence of scientific details Steve, your dissertation of a
negative future for Fjords is not helpful. You are in a very difficult
position when you argue with success. I do not believe you are carrying water
for someone with a different agenda  I believe you are your own man.
Steve, are we still OK or do I get cut off this site too? Warren in Spokane

PS. sorry for the boxes - this should be cleaner text

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[MJ116]

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Please remove my name from the list for now.
Thank You.
MJ Allen

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[wriddle]

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Re: {Just stirring the pot as I seem to do all too well!!

Thanks,
Beth Gerst}

Hi all!

You know --- I always enjoy Carol’s post.

Warren in SpokaneWa

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[Brenda]

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Hi I just joined and am interested in finding a Fjord to ride by myself and
grandson's. I have always felt the Fjord had a nice quiet nature.
Unfortunately I do not have the money to buy one outright as I have 18
miniatures and 1 large horse along with goats, llamas donkies etc and have my
elderly mother with me as well. I really want to find a nice riding horse. I
haven't ridden for a number of years and never could not bounce in the saddle
at a trot. Have gotten a bit chicken over the years as well. Them old bones
aren't what they used to be. I live in the Okanagan BC and am looking for
events with the Fjords or clubs. If anyone should know of any I would
appreciate the information. Look forward to talking with you.

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[Kathryn]

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We currently have openings at Pioneer Valley for borders, lessons, and 
training. 
Many of you know that we have had our place for sale, but it looks like we 
could be here quite a while yet, so are digging our heals in and getting 
settled in for the winter!
More information as to our training, facilities and my qualifications can be 
found on my web site.  www.pvalley.net

We DO have a wonderful heated barn and a beautiful, LARGE indoor with wonderful 
footing

give me a email or call if you are interested. 608-527-2566

k. 

Pioneer Valley Stables
Riding School & Training Center
W7225 Hustad Valley Rd.
   New Glarus, WI. 53574-9731
 608-527-2566

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[BaileysFjords]

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Hello everyone,
 
We have two Fjords to place.  We are not dispersing, but are  still trying to 
place one Fjord we brought in last year for rehabilitation, plus  one more we 
brought in earlier this summer!  Our main concern is we find  these two 
Fjords excellent long term homes.
 
Fair Acres Honni.  Out of Fair Acres Sonja and by Anvil's Jon.   Rudaren 
granddaughter.  VERY tall girl, friendly, personable, and has a  strong playful 
streak.  She has a past leg injury so would be good as a  broodmare.  Her colt, 
Sonny, is a dream!  This is one of the mares we  brought in last year that was 
starved, she has made excellent progress!   Has been exposed to our stallion, 
Engar.  $1000 NEGOTIABLE.  Do not  have pictures up of Honni on our website 
as of yet, please email or call.   PLEASE NOTE: we have had a lot of inquiries 
into this girl for prospective  riding or driving.  As stated, we have only 
focused on rehabilitating her  as she literally came in starved, we have not 
put 
any effort into training her  beyond ground manners (leading, loading, tying, 
hoof care, pen manners), plus  due to her past injury, we are advertising her 
strictly as a broodmare.  
 
Sivert.  17 year old stallion out of Benita and sired by the now  desceased 
and famous Dutch stallion, Yerxes.  For pictures of Sivert and  his few and 
fabulous offspring, please visit our website.  Also, please  look at the last 
Fjord Herald for an article on Signe III, who was sired by  Sivert.  He is the 
only stallion sired by Yerxes in North America, plus has  only had NINE 
registered offspring!  
 

Due to limited handling throughout Sivert's life, we are looking for a  
special home for him to where his bloodlines can be preserved with the least  
amount of "retraining" trauma dealt him.  The optimal situation would be a  
range/pasture type of breeding situation.  Sivert handles fine for farrier  and 
deworming.  He is terrifed of needles, although a blindfold works  beautifully. 
 We 
would not suggest considering handbreeding him as he  simply has not had 
enough handling in his earlier years to manage well in  hand.  Sivert's price 
is 
VERY good to a qualified home, and has been  further reduced!  His price is 
$2000 or if one opted to do a partial  payment plan over three years, the price 
would be $2500.
 
Sivert's tremendous bloodlines should be preserved, but he needs an  
environment to where he is allowed to do what he does best; breed mares without 
 a lot 
of human interference.  
 
We have routes planned to Ontario, Illinois, New Hampshire, and North  
Carolina this month.  We can deliver either of the above kids along  this route 
for 
a very reasonable and reduced price.
 
Please email privately or call for details about these Fjords!  

Thanks  much,  

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's 
White Cloud,  MI
231-689-9902
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http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/index.html

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[Kathryn]

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I placed an add on the list for Odin earlier and it has been brought to my 
attention that I did not mention where I am located.  
I thought my barn address was listed at the end of every email I sent out but 
maybe not!
Anyway,  I am located in New Glarus WI.
phone 608-527-2566
 

Pioneer Valley Stables
Riding School & Training Center
W7225 Hustad Valley Rd.
   New Glarus, WI. 53574-9731
 608-527-2566

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[carcox]

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There was a nice little article in the latest Rural Heritage. It told of a
young Fjord that came to help his owner when he was injured.

Such intelligent and caring horses!

Can hardly wait until I am  blessed with one.

Carole in not to hot, not too cool but dry Northern WV.

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[hardinlsc]

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 We are now the very excited and proud owners of a second fjord. She's
 Deere Country Reval from Ayton, Ontario. My husband and I drove to
 Ontario last Monday and returned with her yesterday. There were so
 many beautiful fillies to choose from, the decision was difficult. We
 are growing fjord numbers in the mountains of NC. Thanks to Eunice
 and John Bosomworth for the two wonderful girls that are now a part
 of our family!!! Lee HardinSpruce Pine, NC--- On Sat 07/30,

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[Kathryn]

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Attached is info relating to our barn which is FOR SALE!
Please print and/or Pass along to anyone you know who might be looking or know 
someone who is looking.
We really appreciate your help!

WE ARE MOVING TO TENNESSEE!!!
k.

Pioneer Valley Stables
Riding School & Training Center
W7225 Hustad Valley Rd.
   New Glarus, WI. 53574-9731
 608-527-2566

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[wriddle]

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Hi,
My wife just called RFD-TV out of curiosity. The gal said
they just today had a July opening and put our video in the
schedule. Double check this on their website later:
Thurs July 21 4:30 pm eastern
again at 12:30 in the morning
Friday July 22 8:30 am eastern
again at midnight
Warren

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[Kathryn]

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My name is Kathryn Bauman.  I'm from New Glarus, WI. where I own and operate a 
Riding School/Training Facility and also breed.
A couple of years ago I bought a young stallion from Green Valley Farm.  His 
name is Odin and is a wonderful son of Fernando!  He's like a Gentle Giant, a 
big, bold, teddy bear.  We really love him!  We havn't used him for breeding 
yet.  I just started riding him recently and want mostly to concentrate on 
getting him going and out.  He's a people pleaser so its pretty easy!
I compete in Dressage, and jump a bit.

My husband and I have looked at moving a bit more south for a number of years 
now and are starting the process.  We are listing our property and have an 
accepted offer in Tennessee where I will also build a school.

I wanted to mention this to the list in case anyone was looking, or knew of 
someone looking for a well established 
property.  We have a large house that would make a great two family, bed and 
breakfast, or lodge.  It has six bedrooms, three and 1/2 baths, two fireplaces, 
large family room and living room, as well as lots of other space (over 4000 sq 
feet!).
We have a beautiful 17 stall barn with three tack rooms, a warm water wash 
stall, bathroom and more!  Its heated as well!  AND we have a really NICE 
indoor arena.  Its 70X152, insulated, with rubber/sand footing(perfect!) and 
tons of mirrors!
I have some good photos on my web site (www.pvalley.net) although there are 
none there of the house.  It will be on the MLS soon.
Its a great business property with an established cliental and lots of 
additional opportunities.

email me if you or anyone you know are interested in looking.  ITS PRICED WAY 
UNDER WHAT I BELIEVE ITS VALUE REALLY IS @ $569,900.   

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[Jeanine Rachau]

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Hi Gayle,

I thought I'd follow up my inquiry - I'm very serious about finding a nicely
bred WELL BROKE fjord mare about that size.   My dream is to drive pair :-).
I bought an 8 year old mare and I was told that she was well broke to ride
and drive, I'd seen a video of her, but when I got her she was very hot and
reactive and brainless.  She didn't have the patience and experience that
I'd been told.  I sent her up to Don Eckhardts for two months of training
and he got a solid groundwork foundation on her, (he said she knew nothing
and was totally green) and she does well in pair now, but she still is
hotter than I really want.  She is sweet otherwise, but I'm thinking I'd
really like to find a calmer mare for my pair.  My other mare I got from
Dave McWethy, Elska, is wonderful.   Picture enclosed of Korina at the
recent Bill Lower clinic.Your help and advise is appreciated.

Thnx,

Jeanine

BLUE MOUNTAIN FARM
La Grande, Oregon, USA
http://www.OregonVOS.net/~jrachau/index.htm
E-mail: 

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