Re: PMU Fjord-cross foals for adoption

2001-08-15 Thread Jean Ernest
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I just checked out the website, which has good information on this subject;
 I suggest anybody wanting to know more look at this website:
http://www.pmufoalquest.com

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, soggy again after .7 inches rain.  The monsoon
season has arrived!


Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Re: PMU Fjord-cross foals for adoption

2001-08-15 Thread Starfire Farm, LLC
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> Based on a question sent to me by private email, I will add that no
> Fjord-cross horse can be registered with either the U.S. NFHR or the
> Canadian CFHA. The parents of these cross-bred foals, at least according
> to NFHR rules, are also ineligible for (continued) registration.

True, and upon looking at the photos I wonder if any of the mares are
registered, or even purebred for that matter?

Beth

--
Beth Beymer & Sandy North
Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO
http://www.starfirefarm.com





Re: PMU Fjord-cross foals for adoption

2001-08-14 Thread Mary Thurman
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To repeat the gist of my original message: If
> someone on this list wants
> to adopt a Fjord-cross PMU foal that would otherwise
> have gone to a
> packing plant, you now have the information
> necessary to do so 
> 
> Based on a question sent to me by private email, I
> will add that no
> Fjord-cross horse can be registered with either the
> U.S. NFHR or the
> Canadian CFHA.

Ah yes, but there were some Fjord cross colts there
that looked like they would make very nice geldings. 
Both fillies and colts which are not registerable CAN
make very good 'using horses'.  Just try to choose the
cross that best fits what you want to use the horse
for eventually.  And the price is right, plus you are
doing something kind for an animal that just deserves
a chance to live out its life.

Mary


 

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Mary Thurman
Raintree Farms
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Re: PMU Fjord-cross foals for adoption

2001-08-14 Thread coyote
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I understand why there are those who do not wish to engage in an endless
debate about the ethics of PMU farms. For the record, I am one of them.
I am a wee bit nettled that some individuals think my original post is
apparently an invitation to do so.

To repeat the gist of my original message: If someone on this list wants
to adopt a Fjord-cross PMU foal that would otherwise have gone to a
packing plant, you now have the information necessary to do so -- see my
previous post on this topic.

Based on a question sent to me by private email, I will add that no
Fjord-cross horse can be registered with either the U.S. NFHR or the
Canadian CFHA. The parents of these cross-bred foals, at least according
to NFHR rules, are also ineligible for (continued) registration.

DeeAnna





Re: PMU Fjord-cross foals for adoption

2001-08-14 Thread Mary Thurman
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--- Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This message is from: Jean Ernest
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> PLEASE, Lets not start the PMU discussion again!

AMEN, Jean!!
 

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Mary Thurman
Raintree Farms
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Re: PMU Fjord-cross foals for adoption

2001-08-13 Thread OLSENELAIN
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If you have had this discussion before, I must have missed it. Sorry!





Re: PMU Fjord-cross foals for adoption

2001-08-13 Thread FJORDING
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 Wouldn't it be easier to organize such a protest movement against the whole 
PMU business that even the chosen ones in the business would run for their 
safety and end the problem by using synthetics? If you kill their profits or 
pie their faces badly enough, they move on. No more PMU foals to have to 
save. Merek 





Re: PMU Fjord-cross foals for adoption

2001-08-13 Thread Tekin Family
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- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: PMU Fjord-cross foals for adoption


> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I have talked many women out of using Premarin and switching to estrogen
> replacement hormones made from other sources than mare's urine. There are
> several that are manufactured from sweet potatoes that work just as well
> according to their doctors. And the women seem just as satisfied with the
> other medication. From the literature I have read from PETA, and the
photos I
> have seen of the farming practices used to collect mare's urine, it is a
> practice that seems cruel to any horse lover. Similar to veal farming. And
> there is the issue with the discarded foals. If List readers looked in to
> this, maybe they can "convert" more women into switching from Premarin to
> something else.
>
> I myself have used natural herbal products with great results.  What I
would like to know if these colts and fillies will have future health
problems and if anyone out there has adopted any  I am very interested after
seeing the site.  Linda please email privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: PMU Fjord-cross foals for adoption

2001-08-13 Thread tillie34
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 And from us, Thanks Jean .

 Wondering how are all the people that have had some accidents lately 
are.Hope all are on the mend and enjoying the weather and their Fjords. 
 Amy has been horse farming at Lynn Millers this last week and again this 
week. She enjoys that so much. Mowing the hay and bringing it to the stack 
and then up on the stack, making a beautiful stack for winter feeding. Like 
her dad she feels she was born 100 years to late. Give us the OLE days. Tillie


Dun Lookin' Fjords
Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers
Redmond OR  (541) 548-6018
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589





Re: PMU Fjord-cross foals for adoption

2001-08-13 Thread Lynn Mohr
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Thank you Jean!





Re: PMU Fjord-cross foals for adoption

2001-08-13 Thread Jean Ernest
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PLEASE, Lets not start the PMU discussion again!

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Re: PMU Fjord-cross foals for adoption

2001-08-13 Thread OLSENELAIN
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I have talked many women out of using Premarin and switching to estrogen 
replacement hormones made from other sources than mare's urine. There are 
several that are manufactured from sweet potatoes that work just as well 
according to their doctors. And the women seem just as satisfied with the 
other medication. From the literature I have read from PETA, and the photos I 
have seen of the farming practices used to collect mare's urine, it is a 
practice that seems cruel to any horse lover. Similar to veal farming. And 
there is the issue with the discarded foals. If List readers looked in to 
this, maybe they can "convert" more women into switching from Premarin to 
something else.





PMU Fjord-cross foals for adoption

2001-08-13 Thread coyote
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I was extremely surprised to learn recently that there are some
Fjord-cross foals being born at the PMU (pregnant mare urine) farms in
Alberta and Manitoba, Canada. I thought maybe some people on this email
list might be interested in adopting one of these foals, so I'm passing
the info along to you all.
 
(Pregnant mare urine is used to manufacture Premarin, a product taken by
menopausal women to replace the estrogen their bodies used to naturally
manufacture.)

Each fall, the weaned foals are sold at auction. According to
information at FoalQuest, http://www.pmufoalquest.com , over two-thirds
of the auctioned PMU foals do go to good homes. The remaining foals will
go to meat buyers, unless they are rescued by one of a number of groups
who attempt to save the unwanted foals.

One person on a draft-horse forum I read said that many draft and
draft-cross foals are at greater risk of being bought for slaughter,
because many auction buyers don't want draft foals.

Anyway, if you are interested in adopting a PMU foal from FoalQuest, you
have until August 31 to mail a contract, a "wish list" of the kind of
foal desired, and the appropriate funds ($500 for light, $600 for draft
cross, and $700 for draft). The details are available at the website.

There are photos of two Fjord-cross foals available for adoption at:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=88874&a=12700010&f=0
(look for #49 and #02, Belgian-Fjord foals -- #49 in particular has the
classic brown dun Fjord coloring)

I don't have any affiliation with FoalQuest, by the way.

DeeAnna