Re: pulling shoes

2008-12-14 Thread Kristie Strange

This message is from: "Kristie Strange" 

Well I rode Izzy today and she was GREAT!   Met up with some friends and we 
stayed mostly on dirt and in fields and she did just fine without her shoes.


We even cantered some in the field.  She bucked a little at first, but we 
went both directions and she got  her leads first try.   :)


-Kristie 


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Re: pulling shoes

2008-12-14 Thread Kristie Strange

This message is from: "Kristie Strange" 

Thanks everyone for the responses.   It's been almost a week and Izzy has 
been frolicking around the field with no signs of tenderness at all. 
Granted, we've had rain and the fields are soft.
I'm going to ride with some friends later this morning and we'll see how she 
does.   This farm has mostly dirt trails and fields, but some gravel roads. 
I'm curious to see how sensitive, if at all,  she'll be.


I have a friend that has a Haflinger gelding and he's never worn shoes.  She 
takes him over all kinds of terrain and even foxhunts him and he does great.


I know it depends on the horse, so we'll try and see.  :)

-Kristie 


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RE: Re: pulling shoes

2008-12-13 Thread plumg...@pon.net
This message is from: "plumg...@pon.net" 

I would encourage folks not to get too worried about
chipping up.  My horses are trimmed every five weeks.
 If they go over that, they are clearly getting long
(at least most times of the year) and start chipping
worse than if they are trimmed regularly.  To a
certain extent, chipping is the way horses self-trim
their feet, so I would not get real concerned about
minor chipping.

Gail
pretty durable on most any surface except tar and
cement.  This is when we
drive and ride our fjords 4-6 days a week on this
type of surface.  Some
others may find this to never be a problem for thier
fjords, which is great. 
I suggest trying without and if you start seeing some
wear and tear you can
always go back. 

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Re: pulling shoes

2008-12-13 Thread Erin Yanish
This message is from: Erin Yanish 

'
My feeling on shoes is only if needed.  We only put shoes on our fjords if we
are driving them on tar frequently.  Our experience was that our fjords were
pretty durable on most any surface except tar and cement.  This is when we
drive and ride our fjords 4-6 days a week on this type of surface.  Some
others may find this to never be a problem for thier fjords, which is great. 
I suggest trying without and if you start seeing some wear and tear you can
always go back. 
 
The key to any horses hooves are that they get a balanced trim.  Ask questons
of your farrier, know why they are trimming them the way they are.  There are
many opinions on shoes or no shoes.  If a horses hoof is holding up just fine
(no chips, sand cracks etc.) there is no need to put them on.  An honest
farrier will be up front if they are required. 
 
Another good thing to watch for is if your farrier does hot shoeing. Hot
shoeing is when they use an anvil and forge to shape each shoe to the specific
hoof.  If they are just taking a cold shoe and nailing it on I would question
the reason why.  The closest example I have would be if you were a size nine
and someone told you to go 5 weeks wearing a size seven.  You are going to be
painful.  Proper hoof care is crucial to any horse, get references on any
farrier you would like to try. 
 
We do run our draft horses all year round with shoes.  The reason being is
that they are in constant contact with hard surfaces.  In the winter we use
borium on the bottoms for traction and pads to prevent "balls of
snow"  We will go barefoot anytime they are not giving rides.  For the most
part they are always out and about.  Feel free to contact if you have any
questions, I do not consider my self an expert, but my husband is a farrier. 
He went to school for it and has had to deal with numerous and unique cases of
hoof care.  He has also worked tight with hoof experts and apprenticed under
knowledgable farriers.  Anyone can claim to be great because they have worked
as a farrier for 20 years, but have they had any situations that force them to
learn?
 
Erin Yanish
www.vistaridgefarms.com  
--- On Sat, 12/13/08, Kristie Strange  wrote:

From: Kristie Strange 
Subject: pulling shoes
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 7:33 AM

This message is from: "Kristie Strange"


I had my four year old's shoes pulled this week (she was only shod on the
front).   We're going to try it for the winter, in case it snows, I really
want to ride in the snow without worrying about iceballs in her feet.   But
if
she does well, I may consider leaving her barefoot.
Anybody have barefoot success with regular riding (trails, gravel, and such)?

Thanks!

-Kristie Strange

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RE: Re: pulling shoes

2008-12-13 Thread plumg...@pon.net
This message is from: "plumg...@pon.net" 

I do pretty well with Rom.  Round type gravel is no
problem.

Gunthar has flat feet.  He is draftier, and maybe
would have flatter feet anyway.  He tends to be tender.  

I have two three QH that also do pretty well, though
all gimp on roads with big crushed rock pieces.  One
should know, however, that horses in shoes are also
getting their feet bruised on these same rocks (think
about it, the shoes do not lift them up that high). 
The horses just do not gimp because their feet are
numbed by the lack of circulation in their feet.  So
says our vet/farrier.

With the cost of shoeing one can do a lot of
experimenting with boots.  I use the Easy Boot Epics,
but am considering trying the Renegades.  

It would take a big emergency to get me to put shoes
back any of my horses.

Gail

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RE: Re: pulling shoes

2008-12-13 Thread plumg...@pon.net
This message is from: "plumg...@pon.net" 

I do pretty well with Rom.  Round type gravel is no
problem.

Gunthar has flat feet.  He is draftier, and maybe
would have flatter feet anyway.  He tends to be tender.  

I have two three QH that also do pretty well, though
all gimp on roads with big crushed rock pieces.

With the cost of shoeing one can do a lot of
experimenting with boots.  I use the Easy Boot Epics,
but am considering trying the Renegades.  

It would take a big emergency to get me to put shoes
back any of my horses.

Gail

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Re: pulling shoes

2008-12-13 Thread KateSeidel
This message is from: katesei...@aol.com

Joe and Della are barefoot.  Della's always been barefoot, Joe went  through 
long painful rehab after removing his shoes.  I will put boots  on them if 
we are going someplace I know or suspect might be gravel.  But  around the 
trails at our house, which are mostly dirt, a little gravel, and some  stream 
crossings, they are both fine.  
 
 
Kate
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In a message dated 12/13/2008 8:36:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
gibsong...@gamewood.net writes:

I had my  four year old's shoes pulled this week (she was only shod on the  
front).   We're going to try it for the winter, in case it  snows, I really 
want to ride in the snow without worrying about iceballs  in her feet.   But 
if she does well, I may consider leaving her  barefoot.
Anybody have barefoot success with regular riding (trails,  gravel, and 
such)?




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RE: pulling shoes

2008-12-13 Thread Willows Edge Farm
This message is from: "Willows Edge Farm" 

Hi Kristi,
Interesting how we all get used to certain things...I can not even imagine
putting shoes on our Fjords (7 at the moment :-) ). Being more urban, our
trails all require blacktop or the gravel paths along side. Sometimes they
get a little nicked up, but they have amazingly tough hooves and have never
shown sensitivity. As for our "trails", we have a few actual horse trails
but most are power lines that lead to crazy side "trails" where we get to
see where our local Sherriff's office practices swat maneuvers for crack
houses. No kidding. Interesting trail rides in the 'burbs! 

Side note - for those who loved the Winters of Long Ago, I still have a few
of copies of one of those - A Grand Day on our website. Duncan is obviously
a gifted artist and lover of his Fjords - he really captures their
personalities.

Corinne Logan 
Willows Edge Farm
Bothell, WA
(425) 402-6781
www.willowsedgefarm.com 
www.seattlecarriagerides.com

From: "Kristie Strange" 
Subject: pulling shoes
This message is from: "Kristie Strange" 
I had my four year old's shoes pulled this week (she was only shod on the 
front).   We're going to try it for the winter, in case it snows, I really 
want to ride in the snow without worrying about iceballs in her feet.   But 
if she does well, I may consider leaving her barefoot.
Anybody have barefoot success with regular riding (trails, gravel, and 
such)?
Thanks!
- -Kristie Strange

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Re: pulling shoes

2008-12-13 Thread Lola Lahr
This message is from: "Lola Lahr" 

All of my horses are barefoot. We run into *sharp* stones riding the logging
roads at times, and Easyboot Epics all around take care of any discomfort.
Last weekend I took Lisa, my fjord, out without boots, over a graveled
parking lot, some graveled stretches of trail, and she went right through
those areas without a problem.  We ride a lot in all kinds of conditions:
mud, big and little rocks, wet, slippery rocks, etc. and I've not seen the
need for shoes. Check the Easy Care website for tips and advice on barefoot
and boots (of course, they SELL the boots, but it's good info). Keep in mind
that you might have to use boots for a while until the hoof and sole grow
out - it takes about a year- so one must be patient.  Read Pete
Ramey's information on timming and hoof care.  It is invaluable. Check out
"the Horse's Hoof" that's also a great website and the newsletters are very
informative and fun to read.

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 5:33 AM, Kristie Strange wrote:

> This message is from: "Kristie Strange" 
>
> I had my four year old's shoes pulled this week (she was only shod on the
> front).   We're going to try it for the winter, in case it snows, I really
> want to ride in the snow without worrying about iceballs in her feet.   But
> if she does well, I may consider leaving her barefoot.
> Anybody have barefoot success with regular riding (trails, gravel, and
> such)?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Kristie Strange
>
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pulling shoes

2008-12-13 Thread Kristie Strange

This message is from: "Kristie Strange" 

I had my four year old's shoes pulled this week (she was only shod on the 
front).   We're going to try it for the winter, in case it snows, I really 
want to ride in the snow without worrying about iceballs in her feet.   But 
if she does well, I may consider leaving her barefoot.
Anybody have barefoot success with regular riding (trails, gravel, and 
such)?


Thanks!

-Kristie Strange

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Pulling shoes

2006-09-27 Thread Ardeth Obenauf
This message is from: "Ardeth Obenauf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If your horse is used to being shod and training in shoes, it might not be a
good idea to pull them right before a competition regardless of the footing.
They can be tender when first going barefoot, it could have a negative
effect on their performance.

ao

Ardeth Obenauf
The Lazy AO Farm
Shelbyville, TN

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