Re: Fjord Prices

2007-08-02 Thread Nancy Missault
This message is from: "Nancy Missault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 I am confused here-

are you saying that you can find a good adult Fjord mare for about 1000
euro which would be about 1300 dollars because that is what the exchange
rate would give.

The dollar is about 3/4 of the Euro.

Nancy Missault
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Van: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Datum: 08/02/07 22:50:03
Aan: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Onderwerp: Fjord Prices

This message is from: Linda Bain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Jul 30, 2007, at 11:45 PM, Nancy Missault wrote:
>
> I do not really wish to upset anybody but how come prices in the US
> are that much more than Europe.

I was thinking the opposite!!!  With the exchange rate the way it is
at the moment, US prices are cheaper than both UK and Swedish
prices!  If the transport was cheaper, it would be a good time to
start re-importing some of those old bloodlines!  The prices I have
seen in the US I would consider very reasonable.


> I got a really nice friendly mare with foal for 1500 euro; no pedigree
> but Fjords with papers are about the same price.

In the UK you can expect to pay (for fully papered, evaluated,
quality fjords) a lot more, and having lived in Sweden for the last
year, the prices here are similar.  There is however, a very
important distinction to be made between papered and non-papered
fjords, you cannot compare the two, as without papers, it could be a
Heinz 57.  I have bought fjords from both Norway and Sweden and 1500
euros wouldn't have bought 1 leg of either of them!!  Even foals sell
for more than 1500 euros.

Before I left the UK there were a lot of fjords being imported
without papers, which we call "meat-market fjords".  In some of
continental Europe horses are bred for meat and considered
agricultural animals, which they are not in the UK.  These fjords
were coming into the UK and being passed off as fjords.  In truth
they could have been anything as there was no way of tracing their
breeding.

  It is important for breeders to register their youngsters in order
to preserve the breed and prevent devaluation.  The Highland pony,
which could be described as similar, is now on the endangered breeds
list because there are so few papered, pure examples of the breed
left.  It is not that there aren't pure breds out there, but if they
are not registered as such and given the recognition they deserve,
they effectively don't exist.  I hope that this is not a route that
the fjord will follow because people won't/can't register them (even
if it is in an upgrade register).

Sorry for getting on my soap box!

Linda Bain
Sweden

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Re: fjord prices

2001-10-15 Thread John & Eunice Bosomworth
This message is from: "John & Eunice Bosomworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In regard to these quotes:
(<>)
(<>)
How does a country come up with average prices?
What would be the average price for a fjord in the USA?   or Can.?
When listers advertise fjords for sale on this List, are we to assume that
they are in US funds even though they may live in Can. (or wherever)?

Fjordally yours,  Eunice[EMAIL PROTECTED]

John & Eunice Bosomworth
Deere Country Fjords
Ayton, Ontario, CANADA
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Re: Fjord prices...

2001-10-12 Thread sini seppala
This message is from: sini seppala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Dagrun and all,
I'll make a list of average prices in Finland. There are no
recommendations set by the breed association so these are what I've seen
they've been of late:

Stallion / gelding 1 year 1 Fmk /$1540
Mare 1 year 12000 Fmk / $1850
Gelding, 5-12 yrs, well driven and / or ridden 16000-18000 Fmk /$2460-2770
Mare, 5-12 yrs, well driven and / or ridden 2-25000 Fmk /$3080-3850
Stallion, prices vary beginning from 35000 Fmk /$5390

The price also depends on bloodlines. Danish and Swedish lines are a
little less expensive than Norwegian.
Best wishes
Sini. home page at http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html
 

These were the Swedish prices Dagrun had:
> Stallion/gelding 1 year $700, mare 1 year $900
> Stallion/gelding 2 years $1000, mare 2 years $1200
> 5-6 year old fjords, well driven and/or ridden and working in correct form:
> $2000 - 3000





Re: Fjord prices...

2001-10-12 Thread Epona1971
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 10/12/01 1:03:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Does this surprise you or were you aware of the low prices in Scandinavia? 
I
 think fjord prices are rising in Norway now as more people see their value,
 also as a competitive sports horse >>

Hi Dagrun-

Very interesting, and very cheap! However I still chuckle when Americans 
consider Fjords "expensive." According to my research, they are one of the 
lowest-priced pure breeds. Like Friesians? $20K and up. $10K for a weanling. 
Standardbreds? $20K for a youngster, $80K for one with training. 
Thoroughbreds? In the millions for racers.

Etcetera...

Brigid M Wasson 
San Francisco Bay Area, CA 
 http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our 
http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Fjords
   / )__~  
/L /L  





RE: Fjord prices...

2001-10-12 Thread Dagrun Aarsten
This message is from: "Dagrun Aarsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Pat,

Well that's the catch!

I can't really say - I believe I've heard around $4000, that was from Norway
to New York. Anyway, it will probably end up quite pricey. I'm sure
somebody else on the list who has been importing knows these things.

So I believe people would import only outstanding horses to justify the
transportation price. And of course they would be more expensive to start
with.

Dagrun

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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 1:13 PM
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Subject: Re: Fjord prices...


This message is from: Pat Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Very interesting, but if one was interested, how much is transportation and
the
other costs for bringing a horse to the states?
pat
ttfn

Dagrun Aarsten wrote:

> This message is from: "Dagrun Aarsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hello listers,
>
> I was looking at the swedish fjord association website and found a
> recommended price list for selling fjords. I rewrite it here, converting
10
> swedish kroner to 1 USD (actually it's a little less).
>
> I haven't seen any Norwegian official publication like this, but prices
will
> be close to the swedish or slightly higher (Our currency is much stronger
at
> the moment). I suppose these prices relate to correct conformation, well
> trained horses etc. Of course it is hard to set a standard but I thought
> you'd find this interesting:
>
> Colt, weanling $500, filly, weanling $700
> Stallion/gelding 1 year $700, mare 1 year $900
> Stallion/gelding 2 years $1000, mare 2 years $1200
> Gelding 3 years, basic driving and riding (green broke): $1500
> Mare 3-4 years, depending on training and breeding value: $1500 - 2000
> 5-6 year old fjords, well driven and/or ridden and working in correct
form:
> $2000 - 3000
>
> Of course the best quality horses (breeding and/or performance) will price
> higher.
>
> Does this surprise you or were you aware of the low prices in Scandinavia?
I
> think fjord prics are rising in Norway now as more people see their value,
> also as a competitive sports horse. But it's true that the fjord is still
> regarded a "boring farm horse" by most Norwegians. That is, until they see
a
> quality fjord perform :-)
>
> I enclose the original text for your swedish lessons...
>
> Dagrun
>
> http://home.swipnet.se/~w-71776/
>
> Hingstfol: 5000 kr Stofol: 7000 kr
> Hingst /valack 1 ar: 7000 kr Sto 1ar: 9000 kr
> Hingst/valack 2 ar: 10.000 kr Sto 2 ar: 12.000 kr
> Valack 3 ar, kord o riden: 15.000 kr Sto, 3-4 beroende pa utbildning och
> avelsvarde: 15.000-20.000 kr
> 5-6 ariga fjordhastar, som ar val korda och/ eller ridna och som arbetar i
> ratt form: 20.000-30.000 kr.





Re: Fjord prices...

2001-10-12 Thread Pat Wilson
This message is from: Pat Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Very interesting, but if one was interested, how much is transportation and the
other costs for bringing a horse to the states?
pat
ttfn

Dagrun Aarsten wrote:

> This message is from: "Dagrun Aarsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hello listers,
>
> I was looking at the swedish fjord association website and found a
> recommended price list for selling fjords. I rewrite it here, converting 10
> swedish kroner to 1 USD (actually it's a little less).
>
> I haven't seen any Norwegian official publication like this, but prices will
> be close to the swedish or slightly higher (Our currency is much stronger at
> the moment). I suppose these prices relate to correct conformation, well
> trained horses etc. Of course it is hard to set a standard but I thought
> you'd find this interesting:
>
> Colt, weanling $500, filly, weanling $700
> Stallion/gelding 1 year $700, mare 1 year $900
> Stallion/gelding 2 years $1000, mare 2 years $1200
> Gelding 3 years, basic driving and riding (green broke): $1500
> Mare 3-4 years, depending on training and breeding value: $1500 - 2000
> 5-6 year old fjords, well driven and/or ridden and working in correct form:
> $2000 - 3000
>
> Of course the best quality horses (breeding and/or performance) will price
> higher.
>
> Does this surprise you or were you aware of the low prices in Scandinavia? I
> think fjord prics are rising in Norway now as more people see their value,
> also as a competitive sports horse. But it's true that the fjord is still
> regarded a "boring farm horse" by most Norwegians. That is, until they see a
> quality fjord perform :-)
>
> I enclose the original text for your swedish lessons...
>
> Dagrun
>
> http://home.swipnet.se/~w-71776/
>
> Hingstfol: 5000 kr Stofol: 7000 kr
> Hingst /valack 1 ar: 7000 kr Sto 1ar: 9000 kr
> Hingst/valack 2 ar: 10.000 kr Sto 2 ar: 12.000 kr
> Valack 3 ar, kord o riden: 15.000 kr Sto, 3-4 beroende pa utbildning och
> avelsvarde: 15.000-20.000 kr
> 5-6 ariga fjordhastar, som ar val korda och/ eller ridna och som arbetar i
> ratt form: 20.000-30.000 kr.