RE: HOLISTIC HOOF CARE FOR FJORDS....
This message is from: John D. Herr [EMAIL PROTECTED] I see others have posted the web site. I have used these boots for several years and I like them. I have never been able to get easy boots on properly. The Old Macs are easy. The durability is good. Good luck, John D Herr Starrborough Farm -Original Message- From: Monica Spencer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 12:22 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject:Re: HOLISTIC HOOF CARE FOR FJORDS This message is from: Monica Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda in MN said: John - I have not hear of OLD MAC boots - where do I find them? Carol M said: What is the difference between OLD MACS and easy boots? I am always concerned with the easy boots chafing the heel with lots of use. There's a lot of stuff about Old Macs boots on the internet - a quick search will net you a bunch of information. But for starters, you can go here: www.oldmacs.com I've been using Old Macs for a year and a half now and I love them. So does everyone else I know who uses them. They are all the rage these days among barefoot folks. Unlike Easy Boots, they do not clamp tightly onto the hoof and they do not chafe the heel. They're easy to use, they do not come off - ever - and they provide more protection to the hoof than steel shoes do (the bottom of them is like work boot tread - with a set of four boots on, a horse can even do fast work on chunky rocks). Occasionally the pastern strap of the Old Macs will rub the back of the pastern; usually this is because it's been done up too tightly (if you can slip your finger beneath this strap you should be fine). I often use socks with my Old Macs, especially on my mare who twists her feet ever so slightly as she moves - I cut the feet out of the socks use them to provide protection to the pastern. This eliminates any rubbing and looks very cute, too. You do need to carefully choose the right size of boot for the horse. Monica in Nelson, BC [demime 0.99c.8 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/25/03 7:59:29 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have not hear of OLD MAC boots - where do I find them? Old Macs can be found at: Laurie Neely Tack Up! 41 E Main Street Miller Falls, MA 01349 Phone: 1 888 726 6511 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] She can order them for $135 a pair if she gets enough orders. Sue Clark Sorger Crown Oak Fjords Sandia Park NM
Re: HOLISTIC HOOF CARE FOR FJORDS....
This message is from: Monica Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda in MN said: John - I have not hear of OLD MAC boots - where do I find them? Carol M said: What is the difference between OLD MACS and easy boots? I am always concerned with the easy boots chafing the heel with lots of use. There's a lot of stuff about Old Macs boots on the internet - a quick search will net you a bunch of information. But for starters, you can go here: www.oldmacs.com I've been using Old Macs for a year and a half now and I love them. So does everyone else I know who uses them. They are all the rage these days among barefoot folks. Unlike Easy Boots, they do not clamp tightly onto the hoof and they do not chafe the heel. They're easy to use, they do not come off - ever - and they provide more protection to the hoof than steel shoes do (the bottom of them is like work boot tread - with a set of four boots on, a horse can even do fast work on chunky rocks). Occasionally the pastern strap of the Old Macs will rub the back of the pastern; usually this is because it's been done up too tightly (if you can slip your finger beneath this strap you should be fine). I often use socks with my Old Macs, especially on my mare who twists her feet ever so slightly as she moves - I cut the feet out of the socks use them to provide protection to the pastern. This eliminates any rubbing and looks very cute, too. You do need to carefully choose the right size of boot for the horse. Monica in Nelson, BC
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This message is from: Monica Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, another thing about Old Macs - a friend of mine has a horse who recently foundered in all four feet. Her paddock is rocky and frozen hard and he was unable to move around in it. She started putting his Old Macs on him during the day, and because they protect the soles of his feet so well he is able to walk around almost normally. Monica in Nelson, BC
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This message is from: Carol J. Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] John - I have not hear of OLD MAC boots - where do I find them? Linda in MN Hi again, Lucky me. They were in the first one I picked up. Try Valley Vet Supply. www.valleyvet.com The easy boots are there also. -- Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
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This message is from: Carol J. Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] John - I have not hear of OLD MAC boots - where do I find them? Linda in MN Hi, I saw them in one of the many catalogs I get and will try to look for which one it is. What is the difference between OLD MACS and easy boots? I am always concerned with the easy boots chafing the heel with lots of use. -- Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] John - I have not hear of OLD MAC boots - where do I find them? Linda in MN
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This message is from: John D. Herr [EMAIL PROTECTED] We Keep our Fjord's barefoot all the time. It seems to me that any of the barefoot trims will work fine. The Strasser method takes more off the frog area then the method I prefer, but she has sound reasoning. I use the HPT Method ( High Performance Trim). You can find information on this at www.thenaturalequine.com I Have taken a course from KC and will recommend him to anyone interested in learning a barefoot trim. Good luck with your barefoot Fjords. This is the only was to keep horses. If I do not have time to do the trim our farrier trims them for me, but I prefer to trim them myself, for I can do it more often which makes the job easier. Note: we Drive our Fjords on the paved roads. When we do this I use OLD MAC boots. They are easy to put on and remove. I notice that you are from Massachusetts KC is also based from there John D. Herr Starrborough Farm [demime 0.99c.8 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/22/2003 12:47:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After 23 years of Morgan park horse shoeing, it's a welcome relief to be researching the natural, barefooted hoof for our Fjords! There seem to be many thoughts on various methods, so any further input from other Fjordfriends would be greatly appreciated Hi Karen- Park shoeing is pretty scary, eh? I have an old Margaret Cabel Self book with photos of Saddlebreds and Shetlands with, like, 6in toes, weights, pads, chains... Eek! Don't know if that extreme is allowed any more, but still. I used to ride with a Morgan owner who said her horses had the same action with or without shoes -- it's conformation and training. OK, you heard all about Dr. Strasser and her seldom-recommended trim ;-) I don't have a guru -- you can learn from all of them -- but my favorite barefoot famous person is Jaime Jackson. I recommend reading his books. Lots of pictures and stories. Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our Fjords/A A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html;Fjordings West/A
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This message is from: Monica Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen Emirzian said: 'Would greatly appreciate any input on your experience with Strasser's program or any others which may be similar in keeping our beautiful Fjord feet properly trimmed. Okay, I have to add my two cents' worth here. I keep my horses barefoot and am a big advocate of barefooted horses (with the help of my wonderful Old Macs boots). I like the so-called natural style of trim with a nice wide foot, wide heels and short toe. But I must warn you to be cautious of Dr. Strasser's methods. In my opinion (and that of a great number of veterinarians and farriers), her methods take a good thing to a sometimes dangerous extreme. A good trim should not cause chronic lameness, laminitis, bleeding feet, abscesses, or rotated hoof capsules. I have known all these things to happen to horses after receiving trims from one of Strasser's certified foot care specialists. I did a quick internet search on this subject for you; here are some links you may find of interest: http://www.equiworld.net/uk/ezine/0602/index2.htm http://www.horseshoes.com/assoc/national/guild/pressreleases/strasser/strass er.htm http://www.hoofcare.com/ukgroups_strasser.html http://www.tribeequus.com/help.html Monica in Nelson, BC
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This message is from: Monica Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen Emirzian said: 'Would greatly appreciate any input on your experience with Strasser's program or any others which may be similar in keeping our beautiful Fjord feet properly trimmed. Okay, I have to add my two cents' worth here. I keep my horses barefoot and am a big advocate of barefooted horses (with the help of my wonderful Old Macs boots). I like the so-called natural style of trim with a nice wide foot, wide heels and short toe. But I must warn you to be cautious of Dr. Strasser's methods. In my opinion (and that of a great number of veterinarians and farriers), her methods take a good thing to a sometimes dangerous extreme. A good trim should not cause chronic lameness, laminitis, bleeding feet, abscesses, or rotated hoof capsules. I have known all these things to happen to horses after receiving trims from one of Strasser's certified foot care specialists. I did a quick internet search on this subject for you; here are some links you may find of interest: http://www.equiworld.net/uk/ezine/0602/index2.htm http://www.horseshoes.com/assoc/national/guild/pressreleases/strasser/strass er.htm http://www.hoofcare.com/ukgroups_strasser.html http://www.tribeequus.com/help.html Monica in Nelson, BC
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Karen- Ahh, one of my favorite topics! First, Dr. Strasser is a she. ;-) Second, there are many barefoot styles and trims, and each group thinks theirs is the best. Don't let this turn you off. You will decide what is best for your Fjords. Now, are they currently shod or barefoot? Do they live outside or in stalls? Any problems with their feet? My 3 are barefoot and live in pasture. You can see them on my web site. Click the Natural Hoof Care and Links pages for more info on barefooting. Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our Fjords/A A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html;Fjordings West/A
