Re: grazing muzzle

2008-06-17 Thread Linda Lottie User
This message is from: Linda Lottie User [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I use the Best Friends muzzle.


On 6/16/08 8:49 PM, debora seely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This message is from: debora seely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Linda,
 nbsp;nbsp; What kind of muzzle do you have?
 nbsp;
 Deb Seely
 
 --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Linda Lottie lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:
 
 From: Linda Lottie lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
 Subject: RE: grazing muzzle
 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
 Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 9:18 PM
 
 This message is from: Linda Lottie lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
 
 Ellen.once in awhile the muzzles cause a wear area but for the most part
 my
 guys do well.
 
 The muzzle should not be so loose that is moves up and down alot.
 
 I have about an 1 1/2 between the bottom of the muzzle and the horse
 muzzle.
 
 The one who has the most wear had a boney face.  Might be why??
 
 Linda
 
 
 To experience the joy of a kind and caring relationship that respects
 andaccepts all of the parts of who we are is a gift.to give and to
 receive.
 
 
 gt; Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400
 gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 gt; Subject: grazing muzzle
 gt; To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
 gt; 
 gt; This message is from: Ellen Davidson
 gt; 
 gt; I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face
 badly.I
 gt; bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well
 made
 gt; and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed
 fleece
 gt; around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this
 problem?
 gt; Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the
 fjords
 gt; that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen
 gt; 
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Re: grazing muzzle

2008-06-17 Thread jen frame
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My Fjord mare also got a rub spot from the grazing muzzle. So I
brought some real sheep skin with the fleece on it to my local saddle
maker and had him sew it around the edge.  It solved the problem. But
you have to check the fleece every day and pull out any grass spurs or
anything else that can easily get stuck in the fleece and irritate the
horse.
Jen

On 6/17/08, Linda Lottie User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This message is from: Linda Lottie User [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I use the Best Friends muzzle.



  On 6/16/08 8:49 PM, debora seely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   This message is from: debora seely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Linda,
  What kind of muzzle do you have?
  
   Deb Seely
  
   --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Linda Lottie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   From: Linda Lottie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: grazing muzzle
   To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
   Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 9:18 PM
  
   This message is from: Linda Lottie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Ellen.once in awhile the muzzles cause a wear area but for the most 
 part
   my
   guys do well.
  
   The muzzle should not be so loose that is moves up and down alot.
  
   I have about an 1 1/2 between the bottom of the muzzle and the horse
   muzzle.
  
   The one who has the most wear had a boney face.  Might be why??
  
   Linda
  
  
   To experience the joy of a kind and caring relationship that respects
   andaccepts all of the parts of who we are is a gift.to give and to
   receive.
  
   
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: grazing muzzle
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
   
This message is from: Ellen Davidson
   
I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face
   badly.I
bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well
   made
and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed
   fleece
around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this
   problem?
Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the
   fjords
that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen
   
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Re: grazing muzzle

2008-06-17 Thread CrystalZak
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i, too, use a best friends muzzle on oz, and he knows that when i get it out, 
he gets to eat some grass. he will actually lower his head and stick his nose 
in the bucket. then he trots to the back of his turnout to the gate the i 
open to let him into the grassy area. so far we haven't had a rubbing problem, 
though the last time he used it regularly, he did get some black spots where it 
rubbed, but they were not raw.

he's quite funny to watch trying to get as much as he can through the hole. 
he kind of tosses the basket forward a little and then drags it back to his 
lips. there's a lot of flat grass out there, so at least it doesn't all go into 
his mouth.

he will run all the way to the back of the pasture, which abuts the one with 
charlie and gizmo. i was watching him and the mini playing under the lower 
fence rope. gizmo can laugh now, but i have a mini muzzle for him if he starts 
to 
chub up.

laurie, and the three musketeers


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RE: grazing muzzle

2008-06-16 Thread Linda Lottie
This message is from: Linda Lottie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ellen.once in awhile the muzzles cause a wear area but for the most part my 
guys do well.

The muzzle should not be so loose that is moves up and down alot.  

I have about an 1 1/2 between the bottom of the muzzle and the horse muzzle.

The one who has the most wear had a boney face.  Might be why??

Linda


To experience the joy of a kind and caring relationship that respects 
andaccepts all of the parts of who we are is a gift.to give and to receive.


 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: grazing muzzle
 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
 
 This message is from: Ellen Davidson 
 
 I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face badly.I
 bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well made
 and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed fleece
 around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this problem?
 Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the fjords
 that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen
 
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RE: grazing muzzle

2008-06-16 Thread Karen McCarthy
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Yup, me too! Rubbed horses face, but also said horse became so agitated w/
this on her head that I thought she was going to kill herself from running
fences in our 20 acre pasture. (Geez, maybe that is how they lose weight?)
I feared for my horses spirit and body. I tried it on her 3 days in a row. She
and i were a psychic mess 'cause of it.
Anyway, somewhere, I have a nice real deal $45 horse sized grazing muzzle if
anyone wants it.



 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400
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 Subject: grazing muzzle
 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com

 This message is from: Ellen Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face badly.I
 bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well
made
 and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed
fleece
 around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this
problem?
 Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the
fjords
 that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen

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RE: grazing muzzle

2008-06-16 Thread debora seely
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Linda,
nbsp;nbsp; What kind of muzzle do you have?
nbsp;
Deb Seely

--- On Mon, 6/16/08, Linda Lottie lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:

From: Linda Lottie lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: RE: grazing muzzle
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 9:18 PM

This message is from: Linda Lottie lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;

Ellen.once in awhile the muzzles cause a wear area but for the most part my
guys do well.

The muzzle should not be so loose that is moves up and down alot.  

I have about an 1 1/2 between the bottom of the muzzle and the horse
muzzle.

The one who has the most wear had a boney face.  Might be why??

Linda


To experience the joy of a kind and caring relationship that respects
andaccepts all of the parts of who we are is a gift.to give and to
receive.


gt; Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400
gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gt; Subject: grazing muzzle
gt; To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
gt; 
gt; This message is from: Ellen Davidson 
gt; 
gt; I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face
badly.I
gt; bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well
made
gt; and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed
fleece
gt; around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this
problem?
gt; Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the
fjords
gt; that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen
gt; 
gt; The FjordHorse List archives can be found at:
gt; http://tinyurl.com/rcepw

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Re: grazing muzzle for hay

2006-05-05 Thread jgayle

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It really scares me to hear of feeding round bale hay to horses.  Too often 
they get botulism from it.  Be sure the horses on round bales have botulism 
shots.  Jean Gayle









Author
'The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949
Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press
7403 Blaine Rd
Aberdeen, WA 98520 


Re: grazing muzzle

2006-04-19 Thread CrystalZak
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In a message dated 4/19/06 10:52:55 AM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Would love to hear from others that got 
 theirs used to this muzzle.


after asking on the board last year, and getting good advice about the best
friends muzzle, i used one on him all last summer. he took to it fine. i may
have poked a few blades of grass through the hole at first, but he didn't take
long to figure out how it works. because they have to push the end of the
muzzle straight down over standing up blades of grass, i could see him out
there
bringing his head up and then pushing in down, in his attempt to eat. because
we
put them in a dry lot at night, he was always glad to get it on in the
morning, because then he knew he got to go out into the pasture.

unfortunately, DH overfed him again this winter. he is at my trainer's not
only on a diet, but also being ridden again. after a snotty start on his part
(he actually tossed my trainer's daughter, who's been riding him, and playing
bronco in the pasture), he has settled down to her doing trotting road work
with
him, and taking him on the trails. he has lost weight already, and his
manners are getting back to where they should be.

with my knee surgery, i keep wondering in the back of my head if it's going
to make me fearful of riding, since coming off would not be a good plan. i
know
i will feel confident ground driving him after i am healed, but still wonder
about the riding. guess i won't worry about it too much for a while.

laurie the gimp, oz the brat


Re: grazing muzzle

2006-04-19 Thread Jean Ernest
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So Laurie,

How long has it been now since your knee surgery?  my friend Walt Brunner 
was riding some (in a Parelli  clinic even) five months after his knee 
replacement.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska sunny and melting,  40 degrees, a lot of snow to go.


Re: Grazing Muzzle

2001-08-21 Thread Jean Gayle
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I have a sturdy metal muzzle that I have used on all of my horses.  This
allows them to be with the other horses and to move about.  Saves stall
mucking also. Be sure to get a well made one and have it padded where it
rubs the face. I put it on the horse for a few seconds, then next day for
longer etc until the horse accepts it.  I find it necessary to bend the
frame of the muzzle to make it fit around different heads.  The halter on
mine is pretty unforgiving so I want to also be sure there is nothing for it
to catch on.  The horses show some frustration at first but then seem to
quickly adapt as they do to other things.





Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
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Re: grazing muzzle

1999-06-25 Thread Jean Gayle
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I bought mine from Farnams catalogue but have not had the cat. for several
years.  Most tack stores should carry them.  Get a stout one as a horse will
rub and push pretty hard.

Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
-Original Message-
From: Laurie Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: fjordhorse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 9:12 PM
Subject: grazing muzzle


This message is from: Laurie Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So where would one find one of these grazing muzzles?

Laurie, who knows that Tor will NOT be happy about this! : )





Re: Grazing muzzle

1998-04-28 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
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 Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 we just completed our multi-zillion dollar, absolutely safe, strong,
 sturdy lockable two acre field, only now I can't put Gunthar in it!
 [...]  The part I forgot is that Gunthar will not bother walking two
 steps if he can be eating instead.  So far our idyllic pasture is
 getting 15 minutes a day of use.

Ah, yes---Fjord lawn mowers!  I have 3 of them that'll mow a path from
here to there---moving only when there's nothing edible in reach any
more.  My solution is electric fencing for strip-grazing.  The first
few days, I give them an area big enough that they won't chase each
other around, but I limit their time.  As they get that area stripped
down, I gradually lengthen the time.  When the area is down to
stubble, I move the fence over 4'; iterate.  Once the grass goes to
seed (i.e. browns off, and drops its seed), I can give them larger
areas, since they're mostly eating standing straw at that point.  This
effectively reseeds the main parts of the pasture for me; all I have
to reseed are the areas that they strip---which are the areas that I'd
otherwise have to mow, for a firebreak.  Very useful, those Fjords

 am considering shopping for a grazing muzzle so he can be safe in
 the field (with some supervision).

 I presume I will run into the usual problems of owning a horse with a
 draft-horse-forehead and a draft-pony-muzzle.

Not to mention the strength of the critter, and its determination to
get grass into the muzzle somehow, and enough intelligence to be really
creative about it.  Keep the camcorder handy

I have a similar problem when trail riding.  Sleepy spent some summers
in pack- and dude-strings, being expected to forage while under way.
I finally gave up fighting with him about it, and built him a trail
muzzle.  Essentially, it's a bag made out of fiberglas window screen
material, which ties to the noseband of his bridle.  He can breathe
thru it, and even drink, just not get grass into it.  (However, last
ride, he bit so firmly on some grass that he ripped the screen mesh;
guess I need to build a stronger one, out of the fly masks he and Rom
have destroyed over the years.)

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   anything that can go wrong, will!
30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif.
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Re: Grazing muzzle

1998-04-28 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
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Well, we just completed our multi-zillion dollar, absolutely safe, strong,
sturdy lockable two acre field, only now I can't put Gunthar in it!

I built this field primarily so Gunthar would get some free movement time,
and incidentally, some grazing and feed cost reduction.  Ha!  The part I
forgot is that Gunthar will not bother walking two steps if he can be eating
instead.  So far our idyllic pasture is getting 15 minutes a day of use.  I
already have Gunthar's hay cut to the bone, with only Strongid C for grain
(and the occasional bucket of purloined beet pulp he manages to get from his
QH stablemate when we forget to separate them properly) and there is still a
lot of padding over those ribs.  I'm trying to get him on a work program -
but that will take a while (variety of reasons).  So am considering shopping
for a grazing muzzle so he can be safe in the field (with some supervision).  

I presume I will run into the usual problems of owning a horse with a
draft-horse-forehead and a draft-pony-muzzle.  Anyone have any experience
shopping for and/or using a grazing muzzle?

Gail
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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