RE: Do Fjord's founder?

2004-05-27 Thread Gail Russell
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Yes, Fjords founder.  It is a real danger.  Several people on this list,
myself included, use the Best Friends Grazing Muzzle at least part time.


Gail



Re: Do Fjord's founder?

2004-05-27 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
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> "Julie Z. Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I just bought my first Fjord and no nothing about them.  I live in Texas,
> [...]  I come from a hunter/jumper
> background and have worked with Thoroughbred race horses as well.
> [...]  I've purchased the Fjord mare for my grand
> children to ride.  She's 6 years old and seems to do a little of
> everything, jump, play day events, cart, trial ride, etc. [...]
> I'll be bringing her home to a lush coastal bermuda
> pasture and she is coming out of a sand lot with a some weeds and very
> little grass.  It is my understanding that ponies founder more often than
> big horses.  I've always graduated my horses onto the pasture over a few
> weeks, leaving them out a little longer each day.  My farrier said he would
> never leave a pony on pasture full time because of founder

First of all, welcome to the world of Fjords---both real and virtual.  ;-)

Your farrier is a wise man!  Fjords are felt by some to be "the
largest of the pony breeds".  While there are those who prefer to call
them horses, most Fjords seem to have the pony metabolism---save ALL
spare calories for later, in the form of fat.  This can set them up
for founder.  IMHO, a Fjord should be managed like any other "fuel
efficient" breed (e.g. Morgan, pony, donkey, mule)---limited
quantities of low-calorie food.

The fact that the mare is now on a sand lot tells me that her current
owners have probably had trouble keeping her weight down.  The fact
that you describe your pastures as lush raises red flags for me!  If
this were a horse that you were riding hard, multiple hours per day,
maybe you could get away with pasturing her.  If she's going to stand
around and only be ridden for a few minutes per month by the
grandkids, pasture is likely to cause a problem.

Here in Oregon, my pastures are entirely too green and lush most of
the year.  My Fjord geldings (and donkey) are kept in corrals and fed
grass hay at about 1% of body weight per day.  They get pasture access
for 1.5 to 2 hours per day---no grain, and only a handful of alfalfa
pellets to go with their vitamin/mineral supplement (this area is
deficient in selenium, so supplements are needed).

One thing that some folks have tried is using a grazing muzzle.  Note
that Fjords are quite intelligent, hence capable of "problem solving".
They're good at removing muzzles, opening gates, "bulldozing" fences,
and generally doing the unexpected---particularly if there is food to
be had!  (My gelding has taught me a great deal about how NOT to build
fences.  Electric fencing is good!)

Enjoy her!

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   anything that can go wrong, will!
15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon



Re: Do Fjord's founder?

2004-05-27 Thread Mark & Sarah Graves
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Fjords can and do founder.   They also gain weight very rapidly when
overfed.

Please look into this breed's nutritional requirements carefully.  Many
people on this list can advise you on how they successfully manage their
Fjord horses' diets.   There is great information in the archives from many
discussions on this very subject.

I find a good quality grass hay and very limited pasture access works well!
Grain occasionally in small amounts is ok as well.   Fjords don't need
quanitity ... but quality counts!Making the switch from a sand lot with
sparse vegetation to LUSH pasture needs to be done carefully.   Please plan
on keeping your Fjord in a limited access situation.   She is likely to eat
herself into trouble quickly.

Enjoy your new Fjord, I am excited for you.   You will find out lots of
"endearing" qualities about your new horse and my guess is you will love the
breed in short order!

Sarah Graves
Stevensville, MT

 If she passes
> her vet check tomorrow I'll be bringing her home to a lush coastal bermuda
> pasture and she is coming out of a sand lot with a some weeds and very
> little grass.  It is my understanding that ponies founder more often than
> big horses.  I've always graduated my horses onto the pasture over a few
> weeks, leaving them out a little longer each day.  My farrier said he
would
> never leave a pony on pasture full time because of founder so I am asking
> for information on how Fjord's do in regards to founderare they overly
> sensitive or is founder relatively unheard of in this breed?  All input is
> greatly appreciated.  I'd also like to know if there are any things unique
> to the breed in regards to nutritional needs.
> Thanks,
> Julie



Re: Do Fjord's founder?

2004-05-27 Thread Lamberthorse
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Congratulations on your first Fjord. I have 2 Fjords Aske and Elise.  I live 
15
minutes west of Fort Worth.  Due to the lack of rain the pastures are not 
lush, so my fjords get about 3 to 5 hours a day.

Jeanie