Re: Feeding grain & Barn Swallows
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve, one pair means the beginning of a migration. I have starlings here and they multiply and I assume that the young come back to familiar territory until territory runs out. They do a lot of damage to the roof liner and I am forever rescuing babies who fall between the walls. I like starlings as they are meat eaters, but I do not like the growing numbers. I am buying a noisy varmint eradicator that has cleaned out the attic of rats and mice, including bats, and then see if that will drive them out. It will drive the horses out I am sure. My mother used to hang a piece of fur from her porch ceiling and swore it kept the swallows out. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:11 PM Subject: Re: Feeding grain & Barn Swallows >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Mary, > >>UGH! I wouldn't >> feed >> it to my horses! > >I've actually have fed quite a bit of this (to the thoroughbreds, not the >fjords) and have been very happy with it. It's good stuff. > >Purina suggests feeding 1/2% of body weight to >> mature, >> idle horses, so a 1000 lb horse would eat 5 pounds? Plus hay,of >> course. > >Don't compare this with grain. Grain has mostly carbohydrate as the >energy source. Strategy uses fat with less carbohydrate. That is why >the lbs./body weight is higher. If I were to put one of the fjords in >heavy training I would prefer them to be on Strategy than grain. Much >less problems with it. > >>I knocked down the nest every day for about a week > >Shame on you. Don't you know it's good luck to have a swallow nest in >your barn. This spring a pair were trying to build a nest in our barn >and seemed to be having a bit of trouble getting it to hold. So, I took >a small piece of wood and nailed it to one of the rafters to create a >ledge. They had it built in no time then. We're glad to have the pretty >little birds especially since they are the mosquitoes worst enemy. I >wouldn't worry much about any health risks. > >Hi Jon! > >Steve White >Waterloo, Nebraska USA >
Re: Feeding grain & Barn Swallows
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear mary, even if you decided against the swallows, how would you keep them out? it sounds like they are very industrious and crafty. denise, sierra foothills, calif. - Original Message - From: Jon & Mary Ofjord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:01 PM Subject: Feeding grain & Barn Swallows > This message is from: Jon & Mary Ofjord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Denise wrote:>.like purina strategy. it's not too hot." > > One of the boarders at our stable has us feed Purina Strategy to her horse. > It is listed at 14% crude protien-same as most sweet feeds, along with 6% > fat. The first ingredient on the label is "Processed grain > by-products"just what the heck is THAT? Plus, the stuff molds > quickly if any falls on the stall floor. We have to go in the stall and dig > out the moldy stuff on the floor every couple days. UGH! I wouldn't feed > it to my horses! Purina suggests feeding 1/2% of body weight to mature, > idle horses, so a 1000 lb horse would eat 5 pounds? Plus hay,of course. > Our Fjords would look like balloons on those rations. They look like > balloons anyhow. Our vet calls them turnips. > > I have a question for any of you out there who have barns. Do you allow > barn swallows to nest in the barn? We just put up our new barn (If you > build it, they will come) and almost immediately a couple barn swallows > started putting up a nest over one of the lights above the stalls. I > knocked down the nest every day for about a week and they have now put up > another nest in a less vulnerable area. I have heard that the birds can > carry lice that can fall onto horses and cause problems, not to mention > the droppings on everything.Is this true, or have the old wives been > telling tales again? I realize the birds do a great service by eating > insects, but does that benefit outweigh the potential problems? Any advice > anyone ...and just where did these birds live before we put up the > barn? > > Mary O. > North Coast Equestrian Center > Grand Marais, Minnesota > > > >
Re: Feeding grain & Barn Swallows
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> addition to swallow chat line.in california, it is illegal to shoot, kill, bother or pester swallows. the fish and game dept will have your head and fine you if yuo get caught. i am not sure about nests on private proeprty though. i know a lot nests around here, and out on the old rail trestles down in the valley, abutting cow pastures and raparian areas. denise - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Feeding grain & Barn Swallows > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Mary, > > >UGH! I wouldn't > > feed > > it to my horses! > > I've actually have fed quite a bit of this (to the thoroughbreds, not the > fjords) and have been very happy with it. It's good stuff. > > Purina suggests feeding 1/2% of body weight to > > mature, > > idle horses, so a 1000 lb horse would eat 5 pounds? Plus hay,of > > course. > > Don't compare this with grain. Grain has mostly carbohydrate as the > energy source. Strategy uses fat with less carbohydrate. That is why > the lbs./body weight is higher. If I were to put one of the fjords in > heavy training I would prefer them to be on Strategy than grain. Much > less problems with it. > > >I knocked down the nest every day for about a week > > Shame on you. Don't you know it's good luck to have a swallow nest in > your barn. This spring a pair were trying to build a nest in our barn > and seemed to be having a bit of trouble getting it to hold. So, I took > a small piece of wood and nailed it to one of the rafters to create a > ledge. They had it built in no time then. We're glad to have the pretty > little birds especially since they are the mosquitoes worst enemy. I > wouldn't worry much about any health risks. > > Hi Jon! > > Steve White > Waterloo, Nebraska USA >
Re: Feeding grain & Barn Swallows
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I let the swallows nest. They are bug eaters. It's great in the evening when they follow the horses around the outdoor arena catching the bugs they stir up in the grass. They are truely beautiful in the way they fly between the horse's legs and all around, as close as they can get. Like acrobats of the bird world. Kate in CT mom to Baldur
Re: Feeding grain & Barn Swallows
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary, >UGH! I wouldn't > feed > it to my horses! I've actually have fed quite a bit of this (to the thoroughbreds, not the fjords) and have been very happy with it. It's good stuff. Purina suggests feeding 1/2% of body weight to > mature, > idle horses, so a 1000 lb horse would eat 5 pounds? Plus hay,of > course. Don't compare this with grain. Grain has mostly carbohydrate as the energy source. Strategy uses fat with less carbohydrate. That is why the lbs./body weight is higher. If I were to put one of the fjords in heavy training I would prefer them to be on Strategy than grain. Much less problems with it. >I knocked down the nest every day for about a week Shame on you. Don't you know it's good luck to have a swallow nest in your barn. This spring a pair were trying to build a nest in our barn and seemed to be having a bit of trouble getting it to hold. So, I took a small piece of wood and nailed it to one of the rafters to create a ledge. They had it built in no time then. We're glad to have the pretty little birds especially since they are the mosquitoes worst enemy. I wouldn't worry much about any health risks. Hi Jon! Steve White Waterloo, Nebraska USA
