Re: Fjord population genetics
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Kathy, Could you go into more detail about this, please? Thanks much! Lynda In a message dated 8/28/2004 10:01:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A very general rule of thumb that we use is that the size of the "effective breeding population" should be at least several hundred individuals (it should probably be significantly more for animal breeds which one wants to remain viable for many, many generations). Remember, this number refers to the "effective" breeding population, those individuals that are actually producing offspring (not to the total population number); and the calculation of the "effective" number is reduced if some individuals (usually sires) are used to a disproportionate extent.
Re: Fjord population genetics
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ruth Bushnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:34 am Subject: Fjord population genetics > This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This is about a revelatory breeding concept that we need to be > thinking about. > > > This is a somewhat novel concept that we will be hearing a lot more > about in > the coming years ahead, one that we need to embrace now, as later > may be too > late. > > Ruthie, nw mt > http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/breeding/geneticfreq.htm > Not so novel but a very basic concept in evolution and genetics. It also applies the other way in that you can come up with a population with a higher percentage of not so desirable traits. The remedy is to keep the gene pool large and avoid creating barriers, artificial or real which would isolate one population, unless a larger population is also available from which to go back and recover "lost" genes. This is why diversity is good, for example in the Fjords, and narrow specialization Okay as long as not all of the individuals go the same way. Kathy
Re: Fjord Population
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anton Voorhoeve wrote: > Hi, I just asked Bob van Bon how many Fjords in Holland: about 10 > 000! Anything else you want to know, this is the weekend to ask. Would that be 10,000 total registered, or 10,000 alive right now? If the latter, what's the total they had registered? Thanks, Lori
Re: Fjord Population
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 98-05-30 12:46:05 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << new to all was the burning of hair under the chin. Today we practice evaluation before the horses (20) are evaluated and all about planning breeding. Tomorrow performance evaluation. >> Sounds very exciting, and as somebody still new to the Fjord world, I wish I could be there! What is this about burning hair under the chin? Sounds painful to me. Pamela
Re: Fjord Population
This message is from: Anton Voorhoeve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, I just asked Bob van Bon how many Fjords in Holland: about 10 000! Anything else you want to know, this is the weekend to ask. T he clinic is doing well, learning lots about grooming, new to all was the burning of hair under the chin. Today we practice evaluation before the horses (20) are evaluated and all about planning breeding. Tomorrow performance evaluation. I already have 5hrs of video! Anton V.
Re: Fjord Population
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 03:24 PM 5/29/98 -0400, you wrote: >This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Does anyone know how many Norwegian Fjord Horses there are, worldwide? I >recall hearing Holland has a population of about 15,000 and something >like 4,000 in North America, but does anyone know the total out there? > Well I don't think anyone has a worldwide number. I am not to sure about that 15,000 number for Holland either. That is a LOT of Fjords for the size of Holland. Is that possibly the number Registered? That would also include deceased horses then. We have 2,174 registered right now. Of that number 2,120 are still alive. Of the registered horses; 646 are Geldings 285 are Stallions (some of these are probably gelded but not reported to me) 1,243 are Mares 102 are Norwegian Registered also. 191 are Association Registered also. 111 are Dutch Registered also. 231 are Canadian Registered also. I also have a copy of the latest Canadian Stud Book. It shows that they have 1,628 horses registered. I don't have any numbers for the Association but I know they are over 1,000 anyway. I don't have any idea of how many the FBA has registered either but just for argument sake lets say 500. So if we add up the North American numbers now we have 5,302 horses. Some are dead, some are counted in more than one registry. So I would be willing to say that we have about 4,500 registered horses in North America. I am sure there are a lot of unregistered ones out there too. Especially geldings. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry http://www.nfhr.com Mike May, Registrar mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 ===