RE: Training Fjords-------Pros and Cons--------
This message is from: Cynthia Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] As usual, Brian, well said! -- Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NFHR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/cmadden88011 Dogs (and horses, cm) are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. -Roger Caras Sarchasm (n) The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: training Fjords vs other breeds...response to Carol's emails
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To tell you the truth Fjords speak to my soul. I don't know what it is about them, but I love LOOKING at them. I told my friend that if I got one and it didn't turn out to be everything everyone says and it was just a lawn ornament I'd still be happy because I just LOVE to look at them. BUT then my pragmatic side says I should listen to my friend who wants to save less desirable horses and perhaps save some money too. I'm thinking I'm going to have me a Fjord someday ;o) . Tamara --- ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the best breed of draft horse/pony? Our standard answer goes something like.. Which breed, when you look at it, makes your heart beat faster? Amy Funny thing is Amy we started out with those which made our heart beat faster... beautiful flashy Arabs which caught our eye, but as it turned out, their hearts beat faster than ours (hee hee hee) and their beauty was hide deep. When Gene first mentioned Fjords as a possible better alternative I thought he was losing it ! As I recall, I had to look at them for a while before they cast their spell upon me. Now there is no other breed of horse for us! Fjords are uniquely special because of their sweet spirits and I perceive them to be the most beautiful breed of horse on earth. Maybe the solution for the friend who has reservations is to allow her to try before she buys just a bit of exposure would make her a believer! Fjords get right up in your face with their friendliness, love me! they say. Then you begin to sense their underlying serenity and ageless wisdom and you're hooked!=))) Ruthie, nw mt = ***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^*** If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things. Rene Descart
Re: training Fjords vs other breeds...response to Carol's emails
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the best breed of draft horse/pony? Our standard answer goes something like.. Which breed, when you look at it, makes your heart beat faster? Amy Funny thing is Amy we started out with those which made our heart beat faster... beautiful flashy Arabs which caught our eye, but as it turned out, their hearts beat faster than ours (hee hee hee) and their beauty was hide deep. When Gene first mentioned Fjords as a possible better alternative I thought he was losing it ! As I recall, I had to look at them for a while before they cast their spell upon me. Now there is no other breed of horse for us! Fjords are uniquely special because of their sweet spirits and I perceive them to be the most beautiful breed of horse on earth. Maybe the solution for the friend who has reservations is to allow her to try before she buys just a bit of exposure would make her a believer! Fjords get right up in your face with their friendliness, love me! they say. Then you begin to sense their underlying serenity and ageless wisdom and you're hooked!=))) Ruthie, nw mt
Re: training fjords
This message is from: ARDETH OBENAUF [EMAIL PROTECTED] I take my fjord mare to a trainer that also helps me with hunter under saddle work with my quarter horse. Before this, we had been on her back a few times, but no actual training took place. The trainer rode her about ten times which was enough for her to learn about bending and leg yielding, trotting and picking up both her leads at the canter. She did this well enough to earn a blue ribbon at the Cincinnati evaluation in Intro English riding. After only ten rides with the trainer! After attending the evaluation we came home and the trainer started working on the skills needed for the advanced test next year. The second time she worked on side passing, Jayne side passed a pole without stopping from one end to another and the third time had mastered crossing her front and back feet in unison and keeping her shoulders even with her hips. She has also begun working on hip control and is jumping. My quarter horse is a willing worker and has put up with a lot from me, but it has taken her months to master these same moves. The trainer is continually amazed at how fast the fjord learns and how well she retains from one session to the next. It's like she's thinking aobut her last lesson at night in her stall. This is the first fjord anyone at the barn has worked with and everyone stops what they are doing to watch when Jayne is there for a lesson. It's always fun to take her and see how much everyone enjoys her. Ardeth Obenauf Shelbyville TN _ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
Re: training Fjords vs other breeds...response to Carol's emails
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/10/2003 5:00:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The bottom line is, listen to what is in your heart. * * * That's it in a nutshell Beth! I can't count the number of times I have been asked (in my job as one of the Small Farmer's Journal family) by people, What is the best breed of draft horse/pony? Our standard answer goes something like.. Which breed, when you look at it, makes your heart beat faster? Which is the first one you want to walk up to when you see all the breeds at a show of fair? THAT breed is the best breed. For YOU! And that right there is what makes that breed special. Everyone does indeed have different tastes, and that is precisely why there are so many breeds today. Ever heard the old saying; Beauty is in the eye of the beholder? Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: training Fjords vs other breeds...response to Carol's emails
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your input Beth. You are right she is not really one for pure bred anything. She gets her dogs from the pound and her horses are grade. She feels sorry for the underdog so to speak and wants to give homes to those considered less desirable. I'm rescuing a PMU mare though so I'm thinking I've got a little bit of good karma going g. Maybe the next one can be a purebred. Tamara --- Starfirefarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Starfirefarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Tamara, I usually don't butt into conversations like this, but I had to on this one. By your friend saying that there is nothing special about fjords, she's saying there is nothing special about any breed of horse. Nothing special about quarter horses, nothing special about Fresians, nothing special about Connemaras, nothing special about Morgans, nothing special about Shires, or Appaloosas, or Tenessee Walkers, or all the varieties of Warmbloods, etc., etc.. If that is so, how come there are so many different types and breeds of horses as well as types within breeds (and dogs and cats, for that matter?) The bottom line is, listen to what is in your heart. There are good fjord horses out there at a variety of prices. Take your time! Spend some time with people who own and use their fjords in a variety of ways and you'll find the one that fits in that special place in your heart. Good luck. Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com = ***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^*** If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things. Rene Descart
Re: training Fjords vs other breeds...response to Carol's emails
This message is from: Starfirefarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Tamara, I usually don't butt into conversations like this, but I had to on this one. By your friend saying that there is nothing special about fjords, she's saying there is nothing special about any breed of horse. Nothing special about quarter horses, nothing special about Fresians, nothing special about Connemaras, nothing special about Morgans, nothing special about Shires, or Appaloosas, or Tenessee Walkers, or all the varieties of Warmbloods, etc., etc.. If that is so, how come there are so many different types and breeds of horses as well as types within breeds (and dogs and cats, for that matter?) The bottom line is, listen to what is in your heart. There are good fjord horses out there at a variety of prices. Take your time! Spend some time with people who own and use their fjords in a variety of ways and you'll find the one that fits in that special place in your heart. Good luck. Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com
Re: Training Fjords
This message is from: Karen Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've got two Fjords now. The first one I bought and assumed I'd break to drive. Doesn't look like it's going to happen. He's a lovely riding horse, great temperament, but just freaks out about rattling stuff behind him. He's a rising 5 yr old. The second Fjord I bought had been broken to harness only a couple of months, but her attitude is completely different. She doesn't worry about things, and when something does upset her, it only lasts a moment and she calms easily with a word and steadying hand. She's a 6 yr old. That's just my experience. I really, really would like to drive my gelding because he's the better of the two in type and movement, but it may never happen, and it won't happen without professional intervention. If I had it to do all over again, I'd buy one that was already driving, if driving was high on the priority list. JMO Karen ...to look for the perfect Fjord, and I have come across one that I really like. The only downside to him is that he is not broke to drive. I would really like to have a driving horse. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Training Fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am an amateur horse trainer and have worked with only my family's Fjords but in my experiences they are all very willing horses. The only difficulty I have had with training then is that they are VERY smart. I have to think faster than them. My Fjords do not like repetition if I want then to by very good at an exercise I have to do a little of that exercise then a little of a new more challening exercise or they get bored and goof off. I have not worked with enough Fjords to really have a good idea of the Fjord as a whole this is just my experience. Erica
Re: Training Fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Fjord, Rollo, was trained to drive when he was 8 years old and he is now a wonderful driving horse. He was broke to ride at 3 and was ridden very lightly the first year. He had no exposure to any kind of driving training until age 8. The woman training him did about 3 months of ground training before she hitched him to a training cart. His riding training helped the driving training a great deal. He knew how to go on the bit and use his hind quarters from the riding. I have never had any stubborn moments with any of my Fjords. I think the important thing is correct training. If someone tries to hitch your horse after a week of training, beware!
Re: Training fjords
This message is from: truman matz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joel writes, Another problem finding a trainer could start on your own place . Those cute, cuddly foals grow up to be 100# animals capable of killing a human. Not to say they will but treat them like what they are - an equine. Kind of like the perception some of us have towards vets, or farriers. They generally treat equines like equines, not pets. Unfortunately some may use more force than we, as owners, are comfortable with. We can help by teaching our cute, fuzzy foals manners. I know this is a repeat of many other posts of mine. Treat them like equines maybe the Oh! Isn't he a cute little thing! comments will stop. Your entire post oozes with a wealth of common sense, Joel. And your advice is usually given at a level where a novice can understand and make sense out of it. Thanks. Judy
Re: Training fjords
This message is from: truman matz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another problem finding a trainer could start on your own place . Those cute, cuddly foals grow up to be 100# animals capable of killing a human. Not to say they will but treat them like what they are - an equine. Kind of like the perception some of us have towards vets, or farriers. They generally treat equines like equines, not pets. Unfortunately some may use more force than we, as owners, are comfortable with. We can help by teaching our cute, fuzzy foals manners. I know this is a repeat of many other posts of mine. Treat them like equines maybe the Oh! Isn't he a cute little thing! comments will stop.
Re: Training fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/13/01 8:30:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All equines are fight or flight animals. Ever wonder why your horse sometimes poops when you go up to them in the pasture? Maybe the predator( that would be you) will stop smell the pile while the horse g My fjords never do this. Either they are not interested in me at all (cause they want more pasture time) or they happily come to greet me. I know this is a repeat of many other posts of mine. Treat them like equines maybe the Oh! Isn't he a cute little thing! comments will stop. We treat ours like horses. NICE horses, but horses nonetheless. They behave wonderfully when I take them to clinics or lessons. We still get the cute comments. Probably because they ARE cute! I don't see that comment ever stopping. In the horse world, fjords have a lot of charisma, beauty, and thankfully, good horsesense. Pamela
RE: training Fjords
This message is from: Grace Deboodt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary, What a beautiful tribute to the Fjord horse and their training. We went through the same slow steps with our three year old filly last year. After six months of winter in the pasture, I climbed on her and rode one day, then presented her in a local horse expo the next day. It was her first time in front of a croud, inside a noisey indoor arena. She was fantastic! I am not an experienced horseman(it was my first time in front of a crowd, too!) This is a testimony to these horses! However, your words could be taken from this context and be put into the bigger picture..and that is the children we are raising today. I am a fourth grade teacher. The words you used to describe the fjords brought tears to my eyes because I wish the children of today could be seen and treated with the same loving, slow, understanding care that you speak of for our fjords. Thankyou for reminding me to stop and smell the roses and to count blessings! Grace Deboodt Deboodt Family Fjords [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mary Thurman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 8:41 AM To: Fjord List Subject: training Fjords This message is from: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello list, Just a note of encouragement to all of you out there who are in the at
