Re: babies/germs/fjords
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Brian and for all the other info too. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: babies/germs/fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 12:52:54 -0800 "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Brian, Salmonella would show wouldn;t it?. A horse would have projectile >diarrhea etc? And be very sick Some horses are chronic "carriers" of Salmonella. They are not visibly sick, but they shed Salmonella in their stool. Brian Jacobsen, DVM Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina
Re: babies/germs/fjords
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brian, Salmonella would show wouldn;t it?. A horse would have projectile diarrhea etc? And be very sick. Or do you mean that like cancer cells in humans the salmonella is always in their gut? Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: babies/germs/fjords
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >-Puppy poop may contain worm eggs that can infect children and cause >problems. (The particular worms are more likely found in puppies than >adult dogs). Also keep puppies from licking children's faces Brian, I would like to add a note about a serious danger from dog (and wolf!) poop in Alaska, especially certain areas, is the echinococcus tapeworms and other tapeworms that infect moose and also some rodents and hares. The larval and cyst form of these tapeworms use the moose and hares, rodents, etc. as hosts, while the adult forms infest the wolves and dogs who eat these animals. Tapeworm cysts are often found in the muscle meat and liver of moose; People can eat this meat RAW even and not be infested, but feed it raw to your dog and you could catch the tapeworm from the eggs shed in the dog's poop! Then you would be the host to the larval form. The Echinococcus tapeworms are especially dangerous as they form sometime very large Hydatid cysts with multible individual larvae and it is almost like a tumor, very dangerous. I found a web site which explains more about this parasite: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/ahd.htm To quote some of the information from this website: *** What is Alveolar Hydatid disease (AHD)? AHD (al-VEE-oh-ler HIGH-dad-id) disease results from being infected with the larval stage of Echinococcus multilocularis, a microscopic tapeworm (1-4 millimeters) found in foxes, coyotes, dogs, and cats. Although human cases are rare, infection in humans causes parasitic tumors to form in the liver, and, less commonly, the lungs, brain, and other organs. If left untreated, infection with AHD can be fatal. Where has AHD been found? AHD is found worldwide, mostly in northern latitudes. Cases have been reported in central Europe, Russia, China, Central Asia, Japan, and North America. In North America E. multilocularis is found primarily in the north central region from eastern Montana to central Ohio, as well as Alaska and Canada. Human cases have been reported in Alaska, the province of Manitoba, and Minnesota. Prevalence among wild foxes and coyotes is high, and may reach over 50% in some areas; however, even in these areas,transmission to humans has been low. How does infection occur in foxes, coyotes, dogs, and other cats? Wild foxes, coyotes, and cats get infected when they eat Echinococcus multilocularis larvae in infected rodents, field mice, or voles. Cats are less susceptible than dogs, but because they probably catch and eat rodents more often, may also become infected. Once the animal becomes infected, the tapeworm matures in its intestine, lays eggs, and the infected animal passes eggs inthe stool. These tapeworm eggs, which are directly infectious to other animals, are too tiny to see, and will stick to anything with which they come in contact. Coyotes, foxes, dogs, and cats are not harmed by the tapeworm and do not have symptoms of AHD. I won't go into any more details, but look up this website if you want to learn more. I suspect some of this information may at leaswt deterre you from letting your dogs lick you in the face I hope I haven't ruined anybody's dinner! Jean in Frigid Frosty Fairbanks, Alaska, -25 degrees ( but could be worse, record low was -58!) Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: babies/germs/fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was asked what I thought about the above subject. I think it is great that most people realize that to try to be too sanitary is actually unhealthy. One caution I would give, though, is in the area of manure (from any animal). Manure from things other than people is less dangerous to people than is human waste, but animals' manure can still be dangerous in certain situations. Healthy adults and children usually would not have much to fear from manure as long as they wash their hands after handling it. Infants, elderly, and the immune compromised, though, should avoid contact with manure altogether. The greatest risk from equine manure would be Salmonella and E. coli. Both can cause severe illness or death in people (though it's rare). Most horses do not go around shedding Salmonella or the dangerous variety of E. coli, but some do. Other things to watch out for in animal manure: -Calves can shed Cryptosporidium which can cause severe diarrhea in any person - even healthy adults. Wash hands thoroughly after handling calves, especially if contact with manure was made. -Cats can have Toxoplasmosis which can infect a pregnant woman and cause serious problems in the fetus. Don't get rid of the cat; Just make the husband clean the litter box. -Puppy poop may contain worm eggs that can infect children and cause problems. (The particular worms are more likely found in puppies than adult dogs). Also keep puppies from licking children's faces because the puppy may have just licked his, well, you know... the place worm eggs come out. : 0 So in general, love the animals and play in the dirt, but wash your hands after handling manure, and keep infants, elderly, and immune compromised away from it all together. Brian Jacobsen, DVM Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/3/99 8:18:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > < raised two babies on a floor that was brick and dirt, with liberal cow > manure dragged in on boots- very healthy ones at that. >> LOL!! My son is almost a year and has been going to the barn with me to teach and do stalls since he was 3 weeks old. He's crawling now and gets into the muck buckets...but since I know what goes INTO the horses, I don't mind him playing in what comes out. Kate
Re: babies/germs/fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/3/99 5:30:46 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << raised two babies on a floor that was brick and dirt, with liberal cow manure dragged in on boots- very healthy ones at that. >> I raised 3 baby brothers. The first one we sterilized everything he touched and he had pneumonia 3 times before he was a year and almost died. The next one, we sterilized his bottles the first month and he was fine. The third one had cold formula out of a washed only bottle the day he came home from the hospital and he was totally healthy. So, I'll just keep kissing my girls and they'll just have to tolerate it. It's finally snowing in Albuquerque so they're very happy.
