Re: LIVE FOAL GUARANTEE
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Hi from Carol at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:22:08 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FAMOUS FJORD FERTILITY BDF Toril This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol, You've confused me here. First you said you don't do a live foal guarantee and then you say you would take a mare back the next year with no extra charge. That sounds like a live foal guarantee. Steve No, it's not a live foal guarantee. Our job is to get the mare safely bred. If we should fail to get her in foal during one breeding season (which by the way, we never have), then we'd allow the mare back for a second breeding season to try and get her in foal. Once she's vet checked safely in foal, and we recommend 45 days, then we've completed our part of the obligation. At that point, the balance of the stud fee is due. If I didn't make that clear, I apologise. --- We've also never had a mare bred by Gjest or any other stallion we've had, abort a pregnancy. Good luck I guess . . . or maybe just good Gjest Genes. Regards, Carol Hello Again, Steve - No wonder you're confused! I just reread my original message, and what I said was not what I meant. We do not offer a Live Foal Guarantee! We do have the best interest of the client foremost in mind, and that means satisfying them -- giving them what they came to us for, so if the mare didn't get bred in one season, we'd take her back the next. If she aborted soon after leaving us, we'd probably take her back also. But, if she had a stillborn foal, we would not take her back without an additional stud fee. We've never had a mare we bred not get in foal, and never had one not produce a foal, so I've not had any experience with the problem. But, if we did, I'd still have the best interest of the customer foremost in mind, and would try to satisfy him. In every aspect of our business, we have the satisfaction of the customer as the #1 priority. This is not written in contracts, but we have an earned reputation to maintain. We value our customers' trust, and enjoy satisfying them. And, I must say, we VERY MUCH ENJOY becoming friends with our customers, something you won't enjoy if you don't treat them right. That's just the way it is, and how we've done business for twenty years. Customers are always saying to us - We've gotten much more than we thought we would. Horse Sale customers, and Beginner Driving Vacation guests as well. That's the goal we work towards. Sorry about the confusion. Definitely my fault. Regards, Carol Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf
Re: LIVE FOAL GUARANTEE
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Hi from Carol at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:22:08 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FAMOUS FJORD FERTILITY BDF Toril This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol, You've confused me here. First you said you don't do a live foal guarantee and then you say you would take a mare back the next year with no extra charge. That sounds like a live foal guarantee. Steve No, it's not a live foal guarantee. Our job is to get the mare safely bred. If we should fail to get her in foal during one breeding season (which by the way, we never have), then we'd allow the mare back for a second breeding season to try and get her in foal. Once she's vet checked safely in foal, and we recommend 45 days, then we've completed our part of the obligation. At that point, the balance of the stud fee is due. If I didn't make that clear, I apologise. --- We've also never had a mare bred by Gjest or any other stallion we've had, abort a pregnancy. Good luck I guess, or maybe just good Gjest Genes. Regards, Carol Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf
Re: live foal guarantee
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] By that's because men are level headed Steve do you mean flat headed??? Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: live foal
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/7/01 9:12:57 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I feel the live foal guarantee is obsolete. Instead we should have a conception guarantee. I disagree. I think it's like offering a home warranty policy when you sell a house, just an added inducement that if you go to all that trouble and expense and wait a year, you get another shot at it if necessary. It isn't that it's their responsibility, but it's a nice thing. JMO -- everybody's got one. Gail Dorine Las Cruces, NM
Re: live foal guarantee
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] that the only major objections to this mare receiving a live, viable foal at the end of her term, are the MALE listers? That's because men are so much more level headed than women. Running for cover, Steve Steve and Amy White Prairieholm Farm Waterloo, Nebraska
Re: live foal guarantee
This message is from: truman matz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess this has nothing to do with anything, but has anyone else noted that those who are staunchly objecting to the mare being guaranteed a foal,... after a year's wait, after an expensive stud fee, after all kinds of vet tests, and on and on,... that the only major objections to this mare receiving a live, viable foal at the end of her term, are the MALE listers? Judy PS You did make several good points. Just not good enough, IMHO. ** . I fail to see why this should automatically be laid on the stallion's doorstep. Other opinions? --- William M. ColiPhone: 413-545-1051 Extension Educator FAX: 413-545-5858 IPM Program CoordinatorEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dept. Of Entomology UMASS Amherst MA 01003 In all things of nature, there is something of the marvelous Aristotle
Re: Live foal guarantee question
This message is from: truman matz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Philis, If you signed a contract WITH a live foal guarantee, that should cover you for this particular breeding. Which means you should be able to re-breed with no further fees, other than handling or something. (If your mare slips, absorbs, or even has a still born, if that was included in the contract for this particular breeding.) They'll find some way to get a few more bucks, but NOTHING like a stud fee. It really all depends on what was in your contract that everybody signed. Judy -Original Message- From: Philis Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse-digest 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:22 AM Subject: Live foal guarantee question This message is from: Philis Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a question about the concept of live foal guarantee.and I may not be able to read an answer from..Steve White, or whoever would know. Am getting ready to fly to San Francisco to play a concertof course the storm of the winter is hitting just as I depart...bummer, and the story of my musical travel life. If the stallion owner drops the live foal guarantee and the bred mare absorbs the fetus or whatever, does that mean that the stallion owner would again reap another $800.00---$1000.00 to rebreed the mare for one tiny sperm? At that rate, I'm out of the foaling business. If I make it back alive..I'll see if anybody responded to my question. Keep safe, all of you who are dealing with this storm. Philis Anderson
