Re: Spook etc
This message is from: Rovena Kessinger You mean about how mules kick? --- On Thu, 6/20/13, Theresa Christiansen wrote: From: Theresa Christiansen Subject: Re: Spook etc To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 9:27 PM This message is from: Theresa Christiansen Wow! I own both mules and fjords and have for years. I couldn't disagree more with your farrier. tc On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Rovena Kessinger wrote: > This message is from: Rovena Kessinger > > > Yea it seems like a lot of horse people are scared of mules. My trimmer was > very, very cautious. She siad mules kick to kill, and they can aim. They > think the fjord is so cute and cuddly, but he is actually a lot more > likely to > hurt somebody than the mule. The mule always knows where his feet are, > never > tries to kick anybody, and he is very friendly to people, and loves for > people > to pet him and talk to him nicely. The fjord is not very friendly and is > scared by people he doesn't know, plus he's clumsy, so is much more likely > to > squash somebody. > > --- On Thu, 6/20/13, Kathleen Spiegel wrote: > > > From: Kathleen Spiegel > Subject: Re: Spook etc > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 2:12 PM > > > This message is from: Kathleen Spiegel > > > The comment about the filly being bored is probably very true. They will > find ways to amuse themselves. There is a lot to be said for maturity. I > sold two other fjords this spring, both of which were four and five years > old, barely started under saddle. I get a call at least once a week from > the owner, absolutely thrilled to death with them and their progress. She > has taken them slowly and now is able to ride both of them out in the > woods, on roads and her 10 year old daughter will be riding one in the 4th > of July parade. I was reluctant to sell the younger filly - a two year > old - and am glad to have her back. I tried to have him take one of the > older horses but he wanted one he could "start his way". IAll the > youngsters have similar breeding and the same start. > Re mules and watching other horses. I had a farrier that my horses loved > and respected. The mule insisted on going first or her feelings were hurt. > He was trained by the Amish who told him that with the mule, the first > time you do it, let him watch the other horses, process the fact that they > were ok and then they will be fine. I have problems finding farriers who > are not afraid of the mule- she is a catalonian/thoroughbred and stands > about 17 hands tall. After the first session, where he did her last, she > was his buddy forever. > > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rovena Kessinger >wrote: > > > This message is from: Rovena Kessinger > > > > > > From the time I've spent with mine, I cannot imagine putting a young > fjord > > by > > itself with a bunch of kids. That sounds like a disaster waiting to > > happen, > > which I guess it was. > > > > --- On Thu, 6/20/13, Kathleen Spiegel wrote: > > > > > > From: Kathleen Spiegel > > Subject: Re: Spook etc > > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 12:49 PM > > > > > > This message is from: Kathleen Spiegel > > > > > > my mule is nothing if not a long eared fjord. Self preservation, a > > certain need to be convinced rather than coerced and a love of food. > both > > are extremely lovable and probably closer to the wild type of horse than > > the domesticated form, although they have been domesticated for ages. > > > > I recently sold one of my best fillies, who of all of my fjords showed > the > > most pormise as a laid back kids horse. The purchaser returned her after > > three months. Although he cited helath reasons, in talking to him, I > found > > out she had developed a habit of kicking when cornered, chasing his cows > > and his dogs, testing his fences and wanting to eat everything. all very > > mulelike. Of note, this was his only horse on the place. The mule is > > herd protector, taking on any thing that is not in her herd, whether > > coyote, dog or moose. He returned her as a suspicious high strung filly, > > but she is calming down. > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Me Kint wrote: > > > > > This message is from: Me Kint > > > > > > > > > A while back someone mentioned that fjords can have a little mule in > > their > > > behavior or something like that. Not being familiar with mules, would > > > someone e
Re: Spook etc
This message is from: Theresa Christiansen Wow! I own both mules and fjords and have for years. I couldn't disagree more with your farrier. tc On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Rovena Kessinger wrote: > This message is from: Rovena Kessinger > > > Yea it seems like a lot of horse people are scared of mules. My trimmer was > very, very cautious. She siad mules kick to kill, and they can aim. They > think the fjord is so cute and cuddly, but he is actually a lot more > likely to > hurt somebody than the mule. The mule always knows where his feet are, > never > tries to kick anybody, and he is very friendly to people, and loves for > people > to pet him and talk to him nicely. The fjord is not very friendly and is > scared by people he doesn't know, plus he's clumsy, so is much more likely > to > squash somebody. > > --- On Thu, 6/20/13, Kathleen Spiegel wrote: > > > From: Kathleen Spiegel > Subject: Re: Spook etc > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 2:12 PM > > > This message is from: Kathleen Spiegel > > > The comment about the filly being bored is probably very true. They will > find ways to amuse themselves. There is a lot to be said for maturity. I > sold two other fjords this spring, both of which were four and five years > old, barely started under saddle. I get a call at least once a week from > the owner, absolutely thrilled to death with them and their progress. She > has taken them slowly and now is able to ride both of them out in the > woods, on roads and her 10 year old daughter will be riding one in the 4th > of July parade. I was reluctant to sell the younger filly - a two year > old - and am glad to have her back. I tried to have him take one of the > older horses but he wanted one he could "start his way". IAll the > youngsters have similar breeding and the same start. > Re mules and watching other horses. I had a farrier that my horses loved > and respected. The mule insisted on going first or her feelings were hurt. > He was trained by the Amish who told him that with the mule, the first > time you do it, let him watch the other horses, process the fact that they > were ok and then they will be fine. I have problems finding farriers who > are not afraid of the mule- she is a catalonian/thoroughbred and stands > about 17 hands tall. After the first session, where he did her last, she > was his buddy forever. > > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rovena Kessinger >wrote: > > > This message is from: Rovena Kessinger > > > > > > From the time I've spent with mine, I cannot imagine putting a young > fjord > > by > > itself with a bunch of kids. That sounds like a disaster waiting to > > happen, > > which I guess it was. > > > > --- On Thu, 6/20/13, Kathleen Spiegel wrote: > > > > > > From: Kathleen Spiegel > > Subject: Re: Spook etc > > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 12:49 PM > > > > > > This message is from: Kathleen Spiegel > > > > > > my mule is nothing if not a long eared fjord. Self preservation, a > > certain need to be convinced rather than coerced and a love of food. > both > > are extremely lovable and probably closer to the wild type of horse than > > the domesticated form, although they have been domesticated for ages. > > > > I recently sold one of my best fillies, who of all of my fjords showed > the > > most pormise as a laid back kids horse. The purchaser returned her after > > three months. Although he cited helath reasons, in talking to him, I > found > > out she had developed a habit of kicking when cornered, chasing his cows > > and his dogs, testing his fences and wanting to eat everything. all very > > mulelike. Of note, this was his only horse on the place. The mule is > > herd protector, taking on any thing that is not in her herd, whether > > coyote, dog or moose. He returned her as a suspicious high strung filly, > > but she is calming down. > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Me Kint wrote: > > > > > This message is from: Me Kint > > > > > > > > > A while back someone mentioned that fjords can have a little mule in > > their > > > behavior or something like that. Not being familiar with mules, would > > > someone explain? I have observed that my few fjords are different from > > the > > > variety of horses I have hadmaybe I just know more now but seems > > that I > > > have to work more with the fjord mind. Anybody have mu
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This message is from: "Jo Wilgus" hmmm? Regn and Duffers have ALWAYS been willing. Guess no mule in them. They are awesome ponies!!! jo Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
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This message is from: Rovena Kessinger Yea it seems like a lot of horse people are scared of mules. My trimmer was very, very cautious. She siad mules kick to kill, and they can aim. They think the fjord is so cute and cuddly, but he is actually a lot more likely to hurt somebody than the mule. The mule always knows where his feet are, never tries to kick anybody, and he is very friendly to people, and loves for people to pet him and talk to him nicely. The fjord is not very friendly and is scared by people he doesn't know, plus he's clumsy, so is much more likely to squash somebody. --- On Thu, 6/20/13, Kathleen Spiegel wrote: From: Kathleen Spiegel Subject: Re: Spook etc To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 2:12 PM This message is from: Kathleen Spiegel The comment about the filly being bored is probably very true. They will find ways to amuse themselves. There is a lot to be said for maturity. I sold two other fjords this spring, both of which were four and five years old, barely started under saddle. I get a call at least once a week from the owner, absolutely thrilled to death with them and their progress. She has taken them slowly and now is able to ride both of them out in the woods, on roads and her 10 year old daughter will be riding one in the 4th of July parade. I was reluctant to sell the younger filly - a two year old - and am glad to have her back. I tried to have him take one of the older horses but he wanted one he could "start his way". IAll the youngsters have similar breeding and the same start. Re mules and watching other horses. I had a farrier that my horses loved and respected. The mule insisted on going first or her feelings were hurt. He was trained by the Amish who told him that with the mule, the first time you do it, let him watch the other horses, process the fact that they were ok and then they will be fine. I have problems finding farriers who are not afraid of the mule- she is a catalonian/thoroughbred and stands about 17 hands tall. After the first session, where he did her last, she was his buddy forever. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rovena Kessinger wrote: > This message is from: Rovena Kessinger > > > From the time I've spent with mine, I cannot imagine putting a young fjord > by > itself with a bunch of kids. That sounds like a disaster waiting to > happen, > which I guess it was. > > --- On Thu, 6/20/13, Kathleen Spiegel wrote: > > > From: Kathleen Spiegel > Subject: Re: Spook etc > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 12:49 PM > > > This message is from: Kathleen Spiegel > > > my mule is nothing if not a long eared fjord. Self preservation, a > certain need to be convinced rather than coerced and a love of food. both > are extremely lovable and probably closer to the wild type of horse than > the domesticated form, although they have been domesticated for ages. > > I recently sold one of my best fillies, who of all of my fjords showed the > most pormise as a laid back kids horse. The purchaser returned her after > three months. Although he cited helath reasons, in talking to him, I found > out she had developed a habit of kicking when cornered, chasing his cows > and his dogs, testing his fences and wanting to eat everything. all very > mulelike. Of note, this was his only horse on the place. The mule is > herd protector, taking on any thing that is not in her herd, whether > coyote, dog or moose. He returned her as a suspicious high strung filly, > but she is calming down. > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Me Kint wrote: > > > This message is from: Me Kint > > > > > > A while back someone mentioned that fjords can have a little mule in > their > > behavior or something like that. Not being familiar with mules, would > > someone explain? I have observed that my few fjords are different from > the > > variety of horses I have hadmaybe I just know more now but seems > that I > > have to work more with the fjord mind. Anybody have mules & fjords? > What > > similarities do you observe? > > > > From Mary's iPad > > > > PLEASE REMOVE ALL E-MAIL ADDRESSES BEFORE SENDING OR FORWARDING THIS > > EMAIL. > > > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L A
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This message is from: Kathleen Spiegel The comment about the filly being bored is probably very true. They will find ways to amuse themselves. There is a lot to be said for maturity. I sold two other fjords this spring, both of which were four and five years old, barely started under saddle. I get a call at least once a week from the owner, absolutely thrilled to death with them and their progress. She has taken them slowly and now is able to ride both of them out in the woods, on roads and her 10 year old daughter will be riding one in the 4th of July parade. I was reluctant to sell the younger filly - a two year old - and am glad to have her back. I tried to have him take one of the older horses but he wanted one he could "start his way". IAll the youngsters have similar breeding and the same start. Re mules and watching other horses. I had a farrier that my horses loved and respected. The mule insisted on going first or her feelings were hurt. He was trained by the Amish who told him that with the mule, the first time you do it, let him watch the other horses, process the fact that they were ok and then they will be fine. I have problems finding farriers who are not afraid of the mule- she is a catalonian/thoroughbred and stands about 17 hands tall. After the first session, where he did her last, she was his buddy forever. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rovena Kessinger wrote: > This message is from: Rovena Kessinger > > > From the time I've spent with mine, I cannot imagine putting a young fjord > by > itself with a bunch of kids. That sounds like a disaster waiting to > happen, > which I guess it was. > > --- On Thu, 6/20/13, Kathleen Spiegel wrote: > > > From: Kathleen Spiegel > Subject: Re: Spook etc > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 12:49 PM > > > This message is from: Kathleen Spiegel > > > my mule is nothing if not a long eared fjord. Self preservation, a > certain need to be convinced rather than coerced and a love of food. both > are extremely lovable and probably closer to the wild type of horse than > the domesticated form, although they have been domesticated for ages. > > I recently sold one of my best fillies, who of all of my fjords showed the > most pormise as a laid back kids horse. The purchaser returned her after > three months. Although he cited helath reasons, in talking to him, I found > out she had developed a habit of kicking when cornered, chasing his cows > and his dogs, testing his fences and wanting to eat everything. all very > mulelike. Of note, this was his only horse on the place. The mule is > herd protector, taking on any thing that is not in her herd, whether > coyote, dog or moose. He returned her as a suspicious high strung filly, > but she is calming down. > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Me Kint wrote: > > > This message is from: Me Kint > > > > > > A while back someone mentioned that fjords can have a little mule in > their > > behavior or something like that. Not being familiar with mules, would > > someone explain? I have observed that my few fjords are different from > the > > variety of horses I have hadmaybe I just know more now but seems > that I > > have to work more with the fjord mind. Anybody have mules & fjords? > What > > similarities do you observe? > > > > From Mary's iPad > > > > PLEASE REMOVE ALL E-MAIL ADDRESSES BEFORE SENDING OR FORWARDING THIS > > EMAIL. > > > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
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This message is from: Rovena Kessinger >From the time I've spent with mine, I cannot imagine putting a young fjord by itself with a bunch of kids. That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, which I guess it was. --- On Thu, 6/20/13, Kathleen Spiegel wrote: From: Kathleen Spiegel Subject: Re: Spook etc To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 12:49 PM This message is from: Kathleen Spiegel my mule is nothing if not a long eared fjord. Self preservation, a certain need to be convinced rather than coerced and a love of food. both are extremely lovable and probably closer to the wild type of horse than the domesticated form, although they have been domesticated for ages. I recently sold one of my best fillies, who of all of my fjords showed the most pormise as a laid back kids horse. The purchaser returned her after three months. Although he cited helath reasons, in talking to him, I found out she had developed a habit of kicking when cornered, chasing his cows and his dogs, testing his fences and wanting to eat everything. all very mulelike. Of note, this was his only horse on the place. The mule is herd protector, taking on any thing that is not in her herd, whether coyote, dog or moose. He returned her as a suspicious high strung filly, but she is calming down. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Me Kint wrote: > This message is from: Me Kint > > > A while back someone mentioned that fjords can have a little mule in their > behavior or something like that. Not being familiar with mules, would > someone explain? I have observed that my few fjords are different from the > variety of horses I have hadmaybe I just know more now but seems that I > have to work more with the fjord mind. Anybody have mules & fjords? What > similarities do you observe? > > From Mary's iPad > > PLEASE REMOVE ALL E-MAIL ADDRESSES BEFORE SENDING OR FORWARDING THIS > EMAIL. > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
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This message is from: Rovena Kessinger I think that's why mine ended up in a rescue before I got him. He does not respond well to any kind of pressure. --- On Thu, 6/20/13, ruth bushnell wrote: From: ruth bushnell Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Spook etc To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 12:28 PM This message is from: "ruth bushnell" > A while back someone mentioned that fjords can have a little mule in their > behavior or something like that. Not being familiar with mules, would someone > explain? > From Mary's iPad > I don't have much experience with mule's, but it seems to me that throughout the years it was said many times that both the mule and the Fjord resist pressure the same. Someone mentioned trust, that cannot be emphasized enough.. take time to establish a relationship with your Fjord, before trying to move their furniture around. ha Ruthie, nw mt US Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
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This message is from: Me Kint "The Fjords are very stoic and self-minded. They look out for themselves " I have seen that to be true too...example, a yr. ago I was trotting down a dirt road that I had been on for over 25 yrs. A recent rain had covered over a squirrel hole! Tunix stepped in it a fell & I took a dive (I was also ponying Zoe). Well Tunix did everything possible to prevent himself from flipping over which he would have landed on me! He scraped his nose badly & the front of his face. I knew it must have hurt his teeth. So I didn't ride him for over a month to let the soreness go away. Well the first time I rode him after the fall, i rode on the hilly part of our property where he is turned out, he had his nose almost on the ground checking the ground on that ride & this was his own familiar territory! >From Mary's iPad PLEASE REMOVE ALL E-MAIL ADDRESSES BEFORE SENDING OR FORWARDING THIS EMAIL. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
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This message is from: Kathleen Spiegel my mule is nothing if not a long eared fjord. Self preservation, a certain need to be convinced rather than coerced and a love of food. both are extremely lovable and probably closer to the wild type of horse than the domesticated form, although they have been domesticated for ages. I recently sold one of my best fillies, who of all of my fjords showed the most pormise as a laid back kids horse. The purchaser returned her after three months. Although he cited helath reasons, in talking to him, I found out she had developed a habit of kicking when cornered, chasing his cows and his dogs, testing his fences and wanting to eat everything. all very mulelike. Of note, this was his only horse on the place. The mule is herd protector, taking on any thing that is not in her herd, whether coyote, dog or moose. He returned her as a suspicious high strung filly, but she is calming down. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Me Kint wrote: > This message is from: Me Kint > > > A while back someone mentioned that fjords can have a little mule in their > behavior or something like that. Not being familiar with mules, would > someone explain? I have observed that my few fjords are different from the > variety of horses I have hadmaybe I just know more now but seems that I > have to work more with the fjord mind. Anybody have mules & fjords? What > similarities do you observe? > > From Mary's iPad > > PLEASE REMOVE ALL E-MAIL ADDRESSES BEFORE SENDING OR FORWARDING THIS > EMAIL. > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
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This message is from: "ruth bushnell" A while back someone mentioned that fjords can have a little mule in their behavior or something like that. Not being familiar with mules, would someone explain? > From Mary's iPad I don't have much experience with mule's, but it seems to me that throughout the years it was said many times that both the mule and the Fjord resist pressure the same. Someone mentioned trust, that cannot be emphasized enough.. take time to establish a relationship with your Fjord, before trying to move their furniture around. ha Ruthie, nw mt US Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
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This message is from: Rovena Kessinger I do but I don't think I know enough about horses in general to know how fjords are different than others, or how much more fjords are like mules than other horses. But I've had other people tell me that they are alike too. To me, they seem pretty different. The mule is a minimalist, the fjord over does everything. For example, in teaching to move FQ over, the mule will just tap with his foot near me on the other side and call it good. The fjord over does it to the point where he spins in a complete circle. It's a struggle to teach the mule to back. Even after he does it well in training sessions, he won't do it during other times. The fjord will keep backing way past where he needed to. --- On Thu, 6/20/13, Me Kint wrote: From: Me Kint Subject: Spook etc To: "Fjord List" Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 10:13 AM This message is from: Me Kint A while back someone mentioned that fjords can have a little mule in their behavior or something like that. Not being familiar with mules, would someone explain? I have observed that my few fjords are different from the variety of horses I have hadmaybe I just know more now but seems that I have to work more with the fjord mind. Anybody have mules & fjords? What similarities do you observe? >From Mary's iPad PLEASE REMOVE ALL E-MAIL ADDRESSES BEFORE SENDING OR FORWARDING THIS EMAIL. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
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This message is from: Me Kint A while back someone mentioned that fjords can have a little mule in their behavior or something like that. Not being familiar with mules, would someone explain? I have observed that my few fjords are different from the variety of horses I have hadmaybe I just know more now but seems that I have to work more with the fjord mind. Anybody have mules & fjords? What similarities do you observe? >From Mary's iPad PLEASE REMOVE ALL E-MAIL ADDRESSES BEFORE SENDING OR FORWARDING THIS EMAIL. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l