Re: Things to do when you can't ride
This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com That is so cute. Ooruk and Ulyssa would just knock me down and steal all the treats then go off to graze. Robin - Original Message From: Karen Keith kkke...@hotmail.com To: FjordhorseList List fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 10:48:09 PM Subject: Things to do when you can't ride This message is from: Karen Keith kkke...@hotmail.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOaQdmBGle8 Enjoy! Karen, Northern Virginia Karen Keith said: BTW, right now I only have a mini horse. Guarantee ya I'm not riding him. But we are working on a version of dog agility training. It's a hoot. He jumps his little jumps, weaves through cones, walks a teeter board. There's lots you can do with a horse from the ground, if that's what you want to do. Or just enjoy their horsiness. If Karen is willing to share it, she is not just doing this with her mini. The work is all at liberty and it's really very good. Like she said, it's a hoot, but it's also amazing to see! Can't wait to see her enter an agility contest at a dog show...right Karen? ;-) Beth Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com _ Time for change? Find your ideal job with SEEK. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F% 3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Atl%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahottag%3Achange_t=757263783_r=SEEK_t agline_m=EXT Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Things to do when you can't ride
This message is from: katesei...@aol.com Robin - you made me snort my coffee this morning with this comment!! The ponies are really really good at clicker training. We are still fencing pastures, so we are temporarily confined to about a half acre paddock with muddy footing. No riding, no line work - but we are having fun with the clicker. Wonder if we could build a teeter totter to hold a stout little Fjord. Kate with Joe and Della (who are still quite sure that the coyotes they hear at night are lurking in the woods and coming for them at ANY time) *** In a message dated 1/8/2009 5:47:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rbc...@yahoo.com writes: That is so cute. Ooruk and Ulyssa would just knock me down and steal all the treats then go off to graze. Robin **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215047751x1200957972/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Things to do when you can't ride
This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com My guys are all just treat monsters. If they think you have a treat they don't pay attention to anything except getting it away from you. I can't give them treats out of hand almost at all because they just become so rude and pushy as well as nippy that it is really annoying. My Hanovarian is the same way. I used to have an Oldenberg mare that you could give treats without problems but these guys get them in their bucket. I honestly don't think you could train them like that because they would just follow you around with their noses glued to your treat pocket. Robin - Original Message From: katesei...@aol.com katesei...@aol.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 6:52:25 AM Subject: Re: Things to do when you can't ride This message is from: katesei...@aol.com Robin - you made me snort my coffee this morning with this comment!! The ponies are really really good at clicker training. We are still fencing pastures, so we are temporarily confined to about a half acre paddock with muddy footing. No riding, no line work - but we are having fun with the clicker. Wonder if we could build a teeter totter to hold a stout little Fjord. Kate with Joe and Della (who are still quite sure that the coyotes they hear at night are lurking in the woods and coming for them at ANY time) *** In a message dated 1/8/2009 5:47:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rbc...@yahoo.com writes: That is so cute. Ooruk and Ulyssa would just knock me down and steal all the treats then go off to graze. Robin **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215047751x1200957972/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Things to do when you can't ride
This message is from: kbatche...@aol.com Robin-- You can definitely use clicker training with Fjords, but as with everything, you have to be thoughtful about what you teach because mine will drive it into the ground to activate the human treat dispenser. We taught our coming four year old Clyde to turn away from the treat to avoid mugging. Now, most mornings, he will approach me, make eye contact, touch me gently with his big cow nose and start repeatedly swiveling his head more and more vigorously until he is almost swinging his hip into me. WHY isn't this dispenser working?! Actually endearing in a weird way... My older guy, the cribber, is difficult to clicker train because after just a couple of tasks/rewards he is scanning the horizon for a pillar or post to crib upon. That has been frustrating, but also fun to try to keep his attention focused for longer and longer. I have clicked him from the saddle to touch his nose to things that he fears, which has worked really well. When he starts to stiffen up on a trail ride, I give him a touch command and he uses his left brain instead. The only problem, again, is that he tends to drive it into the ground. When we ride down our street, he will now weave from mailbox to mailbox, touching each one with his nose and then turning expectantly with his camel lips outstretched. Kris in NC with Monark, Kasper and Clyde If we do clicker training, does that mean you won't get on my back today?! **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Things to do when you can't ride
This message is from: coy...@acrec.com coy...@acrec.com ...My guys are all just treat monsters. If they think you have a treat they don't pay attention to anything except getting it away from you. I can't give them treats out of hand almost at all because they just become so rude and pushy as well as nippy... But a food reward given during clicker training is NOT a treat. As Kris explained, you can clicker train a horse to NOT mug you ... to politely look away and wait ... to get a food reward. No rudeness, no pushiness, no nips. Honest. And it's not difficult either. The hardest part of any training method, clicker or otherwise, is for the human to learn to be consistent in OUR behavior and to reward the slightest try when first teaching a behavior to the horse. DeeAnna Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Things to do when you can't ride
This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com That's the difficult part--getting me to take the time and effort to do it right. Robin - Original Message And it's not difficult either. The hardest part of any training method, clicker or otherwise, is for the human to learn to be consistent in OUR behavior and to reward the slightest try when first teaching a behavior to the horse. DeeAnna Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Things to do when you can't ride
This message is from: Mary Sergeant mkserge...@gmail.com We have used the turn away trick with all of our horses. An owner taught it to her gelding so he wouldn't intimidate my granddaughter after a riding injury. All of the horse at our barn understand how to ask for treats. We swear that while some learned from their owners, others learned from watching other horses. Our two Fjord mares, while relatively new to us, learned very quickly. (Of course, these food-driven Fjords will do anything for treats!) One of them has her own version, and kind of bows when she asks for a treat. Even our huge Percheron gently turns his head to the side when asking (well, begging) for a treat. It is great fun to see a line of horses all turning their heads to the side as soon as they see anyone approach the treat bin. Mary With Ingrid and Nellie in Colorado where it is relatively warm today. -Original Message- From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of kbatche...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 6:15 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Things to do when you can't ride This message is from: kbatche...@aol.com Robin-- You can definitely use clicker training with Fjords, but as with everything, you have to be thoughtful about what you teach because mine will drive it into the ground to activate the human treat dispenser. We taught our coming four year old Clyde to turn away from the treat to avoid mugging. Now, most mornings, he will approach me, make eye contact, touch me gently with his big cow nose and start repeatedly swiveling his head more and more vigorously until he is almost swinging his hip into me. WHY isn't this dispenser working?! Actually endearing in a weird way... My older guy, the cribber, is difficult to clicker train because after just a couple of tasks/rewards he is scanning the horizon for a pillar or post to crib upon. That has been frustrating, but also fun to try to keep his attention focused for longer and longer. I have clicked him from the saddle to touch his nose to things that he fears, which has worked really well. When he starts to stiffen up on a trail ride, I give him a touch command and he uses his left brain instead. The only problem, again, is that he tends to drive it into the ground. When we ride down our street, he will now weave from mailbox to mailbox, touching each one with his nose and then turning expectantly with his camel lips outstretched. Kris in NC with Monark, Kasper and Clyde If we do clicker training, does that mean you won't get on my back today?! **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Things to do when you can't ride
This message is from: katesei...@aol.com I have yet to master the art of giving a treat without feeding my fingers while in the saddle. Definitely sends the wrong message to my smart, responsive pony when he does the right thing, I click and treat, and then start swearing and crying and hurling myself around in the saddle with nipped fingers. I need one of those extension things for this particular approach!! Kate * In a message dated 1/8/2009 8:17:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, kbatche...@aol.com writes: I have clicked him from the saddle to touch his nose to things that he fears, which has worked really well. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215047751x1200957972/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Things to do when you can't ride
This message is from: Jean Ernest akfjo...@hotmail.com Kate, you can teach your horses to be very gentle when they take a treat by using a pair of metal pliers to offer it to them! After clunking their teeth on the metal pliers a couple times they will be careful to take the treat with their lips. Try it! Jean in frigid Fairbanks, Alaska, on the 12th day of -40 and below! but it will warm up over the weekend: Gonna be zero or above next week! Shirt sleeve weather! I have yet to master the art of giving a treat without feeding my fingers while in the saddle. Definitely sends the wrong message to my smart, responsive pony when he does the right thing, I click and treat, and then start swearing and crying and hurling myself around in the saddle with nipped fingers. I need one of those extension things for this particular approach!! Kate * _ Windows LiveĀ: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Things to do when you can't ride
This message is from: Karen Keith kkke...@hotmail.com I finally figured out how to get the video out of my camera and into my computer. Here's what I've been working on with my miniature horse Bo until my filly arrives from Germany in the spring. BTW, Bo will one day have a real horse job; he's also getting started in harness training. I think he'll be a hoot to drive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOaQdmBGle8 Enjoy! Karen, Northern Virginia Karen Keith said: BTW, right now I only have a mini horse. Guarantee ya I'm not riding him. But we are working on a version of dog agility training. It's a hoot. He jumps his little jumps, weaves through cones, walks a teeter board. There's lots you can do with a horse from the ground, if that's what you want to do. Or just enjoy their horsiness. If Karen is willing to share it, she is not just doing this with her mini. The work is all at liberty and it's really very good. Like she said, it's a hoot, but it's also amazing to see! Can't wait to see her enter an agility contest at a dog show...right Karen? ;-) Beth Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com _ Time for change? Find your ideal job with SEEK. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F% 3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Atl%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahottag%3Achange_t=757263783_r=SEEK_t agline_m=EXT Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Things to do when you can't ride
This message is from: kbatche...@aol.com Karen, LOVE what you are doing with Bo. Thanks so much for sharing. To all the folks who think that minis have no purpose, take that! Now if I could just convince my husband to add one to the Fjord herd... Kris in NC with Monark, Clyde and Kasper who say, You want a WHAT?! **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
