Re: V98 #398 foaling & other various things
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boy is this going to upset alot of the anals among us. I have never been in attendance to a birth of 7 foals on my place. My mares foal in the pasture, usually in the morning. I am lucky enough to have room to not need 12 x12 box stalls. Actually I missed the last foal as a cougar got it before I saw it. I am of the opinion that the more weird things one does to one's horses the weirder( is that a word?) the horses become. I'm in the process of building a barn. It certainly will not be for the horses. Years ago I built a shelter for my yearling stud. He's 11 now. The only way he would go in it is if I fed him there. When he was finished eating he went back outside & stood next to it. It blew over once & I set it back up. The next time it blew over it went over the fence so I tore it down. I should add that I live in the Columbia River Gorge in N. Central Oregon. Winds of 60 mph are not uncommon. I don't have lots of foals because I can't afford to keep lots of mares. Anything on the place has to be able to be used in a hitch farming or logging. The young ones are exempt at least until they are 3. I wish I could afford to keep lots of brood mares but it isn't possible. I wish I had 17 outside mares lined up for breeding but I don't advertise & I'm not interested in dealing with other people's ill mannered mares. Different subject. I am seeing lots of mail that makes me feel like I'm listening in on someone else's conversation. I respectfully ask all of us to think before we send what appears to be private e-mail through the chat line. I have to agree with Dave McWethy, I scroll judiciously when reading this list. I ask all of us to think is what we are posting of interest to all. If it isn't please send it privately. To all of those that responded to my comments about constructive subjects - thank you for your support. I heartily agree about the myths that have been perpetuated about easy going fjords. I feel it has created alot of useless fjord horses ( NO one keeps a pony, right?) out there. Fjords are alot like mules & I'm personally not smart enough to deal with mules. The following is an advertisement. Looks like I'll be selling a team of mares at the SJF auction in Apr. It is located in Redmond OR & is the 3rd weekend of Apr. These mares do anything you want to do. It is kind of hard as they are 1/2 of my 4 horse farm team but I'm wanting to change bloodlines & I like my stallion so I'll change out the mares instead of him since testosterone rules. That should aggravate lots of you. Take a number! Happy Trails Joel Harman ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: Various things
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) >This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >I also think that it is important keep in touch with what is current >within the European market. If looking at the US warmblood market is any >indication, there is future potential for a sales market for our horses >in Europe. Therefore, I think that it would be important to maintain >our European connection with the "experts" from Holland, Norway, etc. I quite agree, but my information re the demand for US warmbloods market in Europe is because of the use of our thoroughbreds in cross breeding to take the heaviness out of the big beasties. That was how my thoroughbred mare, at 15.2 hands won over ponderous ladies of the Holstein breed in front of three European judge/evaluators. Are we going to add thoroughbred blood to our fjörds or just have such great lineage Europeans will want them? Jean Gayle Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
Re: Various things
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 08:42 AM 11/28/98 -0700, you wrote: >This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I understand that there is an >NFHR Versatility Award (the details were published in the Summer 1996 >Fjord Herald.) We need to make more of this. Perhaps one issue of the Yes there is a "Versatility Award" as well as an "Award of Excellence" I have been trying to get the info for each of them posted on the web site. Unfortunately all of the information isn't in an electronic format (yet). If any of you would like information on these programs the people to contact about them are: Excellence award - Karen Cabic - email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Versatility Award - Becky Mayer - Check your roster for her phone number or email me privately. She doesn't have a listed email address yet. Mike
Various things
This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hope everyone on the list had a nice holiday. Personally, I ate too much (ufta!), but enjoyed every bite! I now need to work this off! Look out ponies! Regarding evaluations; A number of good ideas have been shared and passed along to the BOD by (I hope I'm correct) Julie, Nancy and Mike. I, for one, appreciate the time that they take to review the subjects discussed on the list, and for being willing to pass the info along. I agree that there should be a "learner judge" or "learner evaluator" system created. The people on whom we currently rely upon for our evaluations will not always be there, for whatever reason. I think that it is important to plan for the future. I also think that breeders should be capable of being evaluators. People who have the breed's best interest in mind, who are willing to cull their own herd when necessary, and who have the ability to appreciate the competition's herd, should be capable of fairly, and in an unbiased manner, judge a horse's potential for breeding. I also think that it is important keep in touch with what is current within the European market. If looking at the US warmblood market is any indication, there is future potential for a sales market for our horses in Europe. Therefore, I think that it would be important to maintain our European connection with the "experts" from Holland, Norway, etc. One way to maintain that connection would be to, from time to time, invite those experts (who evaluate hundreds of horses each year) to help refresh the evaluation process in North America. Just another addition to the system of "checks and balances" mentioned in an earlier post. With the world market as it is, it would be foolish to try to operate in a vacuum. For you "for fun" folks (why else would you want a Fjord, anyway?) You are the backbone of the market! Much discussion has been made regarding incentive programs. It's time for the NFHR to become more aggressive in providing incentive programs (such as mentioned in past posts - offered by the AQHA and the AMHA.) These incentive programs do a lot more than add a pretty plaque on your wall, they help promote the breed by encouraging the "for fun" folks to get their horses out in public in lots of different venues. This, ultimately, benefits the breeders! I, as a future breeder, would be willing to pay an extra fee to the NFHR for some type of promotion, whether it be a video tape, brochures, funding a promotional event, whatever. I understand that there is an NFHR Versatility Award (the details were published in the Summer 1996 Fjord Herald.) We need to make more of this. Perhaps one issue of the Herald each year could be devoted to the non-breeding members of the NFHR? Any other suggestions? Keep up the discussion. Beth Starfire Farm in dry today, wet tomorrow, Colorado.