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This message is from: "Cherie Mascis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> told us about this very fascinating Beowulf movie website. Horses also, maybe Icelandic? The Beowulf site was interesting. There are several photos of Icelandic horses. In the stunt gallery there's a great pic of a group of warriors with torches riding Icelandics. I have an Icleandic horse and a fjord (love those Viking horses). I have heard of the vikings pitting their horses in fights. I never got any details though. Cherie Red Bluff, CA (soon to be living in North Carolina)
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This message is from: "Karen Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Horses also, maybe Icelandic? (#32 in the gallery, I think) http://www.beowulf-movie.com/ Since the movie was shot in Iceland, I'd say any horses are icelandics since everything I've read is that Iceland has not allowed any importation of horses to the island for about 800 years. Karen Keith _ Your opinion counts..for your chance to win a Mini Cooper click here http://www.qualifiedopinions.com/joinup.php?source=hotmail
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This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A lady from Ottawa visited our ranch this week that majored in Anglo Saxon and told us about this very fascinating Beowulf movie website that has the most detailed and authentic costume she had ever seen ..textbook. There are endless photos there and I thought that some of you history buffs might enjoy it. Horses also, maybe Icelandic? (#32 in the gallery, I think) http://www.beowulf-movie.com/ She told us something of interest about Fjords, she was thrilled to see them for her first time, in the course of her interest in medieval times she found that Vikings used Fjords for fighting sport; pitting one horse against another! I had never heard that before. There's a classic survival of the fittest selection for you. Uffda. Ruthie, nw mt US
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Regarding the horse fight. I would think there was some jealousy there over the one mare and the other two fought for her? Otherwise it had to be the dominant thing. My horses will nip and shove each other over my attention, ..especially if I am grooming one in the field the other will come and intrude not very politely. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will have to say that I am lucky in this respect. I am able to turn our QH, arab, fjordhorse and 4 miniature horses out together during the day. I lock them up at night so that they can all eat alone. We did have one fjord mare here that would kick the other horses for no reason and we never knew when she would do it, and if we kept her away from the other horses, she would just pace and pace. So she did not work out for us, but right now all these horses are getting along real good. Thank goodness. Rondi Tyler. So. Calif.
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This message is from: Debby Stai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I only have one Fjord, she's the mare, and I think because of the docile breed, she's the bottom of the pecking order, the pony is down there with her and they are best friends. The arab is a loner and pushes the pony and Fjord around but not fighting, just "leave me alone", the QH and the TB I will never be able to put out together. Though geldings, they will fight till the death. Had an incident with them similiar and although they are cordial over the gate, the fence has hot wire, they will bite and leave marks on each others necks. They both want to be the boss and neither will back down. I'm getting a driving mini, this guy is great, on Sunday and have already figured out the turnout, the QH and Arab in one pasture, the Tb and pony 1/2day in one and Amber the Fjord and the mini the other half. It just isn't worth it one getting hurt and me regretting that I wasn't more careful. Good luck and keep us posted. Debby
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This message is from: "Teressa Kandianis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Catherine: Here is the website for the NorwayList. It is mostly in English, however lots of information is in Norwegian and there are a number of Norwegians on the list as well. They offer links on listening to Norway radio stations, looking at mini cams in various Norwegian places, virtually anything and everything that can help people with finding ancestors or relatives in Norway and/or the US. There are numerous Norwegian cultural "experts" subscribing to this list and it can be very enlightening about the why and how of Norwegian customs and traditions. Including the occasional reference to fjords and farm life. http://www.cport.com/~catmandu/NorwayList.htm When the horse fighting thread came up, links to photos were posted showing fjords purportedly at the "fights" with Norwegian captions. At first I thought it was coming from the fjord list folks as it became a long running commentary - as evidenced by Kneel's bit of tongue in cheek history. Lots of postings to go thru but it goes quickly as subject lines are usually very descriptive of the contents. We're having snow and supposed to get some winds later today. But, my garden is telling me that for all practical purposes, spring is around the corner. Its so exciting to see my baby fjords growing up. Who cares if we were unprepared to train youngsters and that we have to be patient before we can ride etc. Seeing them through their wacky ones, terrible twos, and adolescent threes has become one of the high points of our lives. I believe they might be equally amused by our antics as well. Teressa K. in Ferndale.
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This message is from: "Catherine Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Teressa, What a story...What list are you on and is it in English or Norwegian? Kneel is an old fashion SKALD. (story teller) Thank you for the warm hellos about our NUMANN (means NOW MAN). He is running around the field in between rain storms. I work with him more for I feel I need to get him out of the stall as much as possible. But I do not want him soaked to the skin in the rain. In a week, he will go in the sand arena for play time. Numann has learned what mud puddles are, the creek, the bridge, the cats, the dogs, the wild turkeys and the little grass. All in 24 hours of life. No matter how many foals I have birth out, each of them amaze me. The window of learning is there wide open in the first few weeks and months... They are sooo smart. Enough sad... Catherine L.
Fw: Hestefektning - Horse Fighting
This message is from: "Teressa Kandianis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This is from a list I'm on for researching Norwegian roots. A recent >discussion has been about horse fighting - using fjord stallions. I'm not >sure how it got started but apparently one lister's ancestor was a >philanderer, drunk and wife beater and horse traded for a living. And in >conjunction with that activity put on horse fights as well. He either >drowned or was murdered after such an event and the big wad of money he had >in his pocket was missing. The term matador was explained away as one who >sponsored the moving of stallions about. However, others insist matador in >norwegian means just what matador means in Spanish. Hence, this tongue in >cheek revisionist history. Its long but quite amusing. Teressa K. >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Friday, January 14, 2000 2:19 PM >Subject: Hestefektning - Horse Fighting > > >Hi All, > >WARNING!!! - This message is long and contains no known facts. Any >statement that contains the slightest tinge of truth is purely >coincidental and is not the fault of the author or the management of the >Norway List. If you can't handle pure nonsense, please delete now or you >may receive an overdose that can cause mad horse disease. > ><horsefight was in Setesdal in 1820. In Oslo they arranged horsefights on >Bartholomeus-day, (aug 24.) from 1618. It was especially popular in the >viking-ages..>> > >I have been watching with interest and disappointment the messages >concerning horse fighting in Norway. I kept waiting for the truth. As >there seem to be no more messages concerning horse fighting, I feel >compelled to post the facts. There is a cover up going on by our >Norwegian friends on the List. They are not fessing up to the fact there >were horse fights in Norway. Even people as helpful and previously >honest as Elin are trying to muddy the water and close the topic down. >All this talk of horse shows and matador meaning an influential or >powerful stallion with a positive influence regarding the development of >the fjord horse is nonsense. Most of us have our Haugen and it is clear >that a matador is a matador. I think it is rather insulting to matadors >to suggest they had something to do with the development of the fjord >horse. The references to horses fighting each other is also false. >Matadors fought horses. We are being fed a lot of hooey. I will explain >why, but first we have to go back in history to study how this practice >came to Norway. > >The origin of Norwegian horse fighting goes back to the Viking times. As >the Vikings raided, pillaged, and looted their way south along the >western coast of Europe, the eventually arrived in Spain and Portugal. >Even in these early days there was bullfighting in Spain and Portugal. >The Vikings watched some of these fights and thought they looked >challenging and jolly good fun. Remember, these Vikings were fierce >fighters and enjoyed the action. When they first started raiding British >Isles and the west coast of Europe, the locals tried to put up a fight. >They always lost and a lot of them got killed. By the time the Vikings >reached Spain and Portugal, there was no resistance offered. At the >sight of a Viking ship on the horizon, the local population fled inland >as fast as they could, except for some of the younger women who ran >toward the shore. The Vikings were known to have come from a rugged, >rocky land to the north and they guided their ships using pelagic >navigation based on the stars. This was somehow convoluted into calling >them rock stars and the younger women thought they were coming to give a >concert. > >While the Vikings did enjoy performing for the young women, they missed >the thrill of fighting and bashing in heads with their battle-axes. >Bullfighting looked like an ideal sport. They confiscated a few bulls >and sailed back to Norway to introduce bullfighting. Getting these >fighting bulls all the way to Norway in open sailing ships was a very >difficult task. They liked the Spanish bullfights best and this involved >killing the bull at the end of each fight. They realized there was no >way they could keep Norway supplied with bulls by ship. Therefore, they >used the bulls for breeding stock. At first they bred them with fjord >cows, a small breed from the western fjord country where most of the >Vikings lived. This combination didn't work out very well. The >resulting cows were just fine and gave lots of milk with a slight hint of >sherry taste, but the bulls were all very docile and wouldn't fig
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This message is from: Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi DeeAnna, > I cannot realistically keep horses in two separate pastures indefinitely, > however -- we just don't have the facilities to do this, especially with an > Iowa winter coming on. It's either find Duncan a new home soon, or resolve > this problem between him and Tuopen. Does anyone have any suggestions? I > thank you in advance for any ideas you have! > > DeeAnna > Umm, did you mention one of the herd was a mare? If so, that could be the problem. Our mares are separate from the geldings...the problem of "in-fighting" is effectively solved. There will always be the occaisional "grumpy look" when lobbying for attention, treats...whatever, but no catastrophies. They even share their hay piles. Sorry to hear Duncan was injured, it does make you feel awful to see this. Maybe seperate turnout times? It would be a pain, but think of the consequences. Either they figure this out for themselves (risking further injury/death), or keeping them separate is the only way. Some horses never get along. Hope you can work it out. Good luck to you, Ingrid
