Re: Selenium Question
This message is from: Douglas Knutsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great. That is a good magazine, according to friends. Peg - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:26 AM Subject: Re: Selenium Question This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for the information Peg. While I was doing research on the selenium issue, I came across several helpful web sites including this one from Rural Heritage. The Rural Heritage site is interesting. It's dedicated to drafts, mules, and oxen. _http://www.ruralheritage.com/vet_clinic/selenium.htm_ (http://www.ruralheritage.com/vet_clinic/selenium.htm) Linda ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Selenium Question
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for the information Peg. While I was doing research on the selenium issue, I came across several helpful web sites including this one from Rural Heritage. The Rural Heritage site is interesting. It's dedicated to drafts, mules, and oxen. _http://www.ruralheritage.com/vet_clinic/selenium.htm_ (http://www.ruralheritage.com/vet_clinic/selenium.htm) Linda ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Selenium Question
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know if a horse can have too much selenium? We do not have a selenium deficiency in our soil, but most of the supplements, mineral blocks, etc. include selenium in the ingredients. Should I avoid using them? Thanks, Linda ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Selenium Question
This message is from: Douglas Knutsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Linda, Yes, your horse can have too much Selenium. Check with your vet. You do have to be aware of the additive amounts of Selenium your horse may be getting from different sources. Good luck, Peg Knutsen www.fairpoint.net/~kffjord/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:30 PM Subject: Selenium Question This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know if a horse can have too much selenium? We do not have a selenium deficiency in our soil, but most of the supplements, mineral blocks, etc. include selenium in the ingredients. Should I avoid using them? Thanks, Linda ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Selenium deficiency
This message is from: ulli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Re: selenium deficiency I like to resolve things naturally with my animals whenever possible find that Kelp meal is a great supplement when used properly. It is a great source of many minerals but should not be overdosed. You might consider using kelp as a supplement (especially since it's readily available in Nova Scotia). The daily amount for an average horse is 2 ounces per day, I'd start with 1 - 1.5 ounces per day per fjord. (it contains .1 ppm, 5 ppm is toxic to horses). Yours truly, Catherine Woodliffe Essex Cottage Farms - www.efarms.cc Urban Wolf - www.UrbanWolf.cc
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This message is from: B. Hendricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Misha: Where in Eastern Oregon are you? You may have already told me, I've been so buried here I can't remember what I remember. Bonnie Please visit my web sites: Commissioned Horse Portraits, Oil Paintings, Prints, Books http://www.hendricksgallery.com and http://members.xoom.com/BHendricks/Gallery1.html - Original Message - From: misha nogha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 3:52 PM Subject: selenium This message is from: misha nogha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, here in eastern Oregon I feed Horse Guard supplement with selenium in it. I do NOT use selenium in the salt block for the reasons other people said.The horses really hit the salt on hot says and looks like
selenium
This message is from: misha nogha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, here in eastern Oregon I feed Horse Guard supplement with selenium in it. I do NOT use selenium in the salt block for the reasons other people said.The horses really hit the salt on hot says and looks like we are in for another few 100 degree ones. For the sheath cleaning, I use Excalibur with the tea tree oil in it. It works great, seems non irritating and really leaves the whole area soft and clean looking. I usually use steril guaze to clean them. On the mare's bags, I generally use Bronner's soap. It's very mild. Although I do feel Fjords get more nutrition out of what they eat simply because they seem to have great digestive systems, I do feed a supplement. The reason I feel their systems work well is that the manure breaks down so quickly when it is hauled and composted compared to the other breeds of horses I have used. Misha
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) Mike, Here in North Carolina our soil has sufficient Selenium. Also in Colorado where we have lived the Selenium level was adequate. So yes, there are some areas with normal amounts. In fact, there are areas with high levels of it. Also, a slight caution to people about supplementing Selenium. Be careful to find out that you really need to supplement before you do it. Selenium is toxic to animals in too high levels. Ask your veterinarian or your extension agent if the soil in your area is Selenium deficient. One way to find out for sure if your horse is low in Selenium is to send a hair sample for analysis; Contact your vet for more info. Brian Jacobsen, DVM Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: Selenium deficient soil
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Selenium is washed out of the soil by rainfall. Low rainfall places should have selenium. As I remember, the California Central Valley had some selenium disasters relating to agricultural run-off being pumped into sloughs where the water evaporated, thus concentrating the selenium and causing waterfowl deaths. When I lived in coastal British Columbia the hay from the dry interior farming areas (irrigated alfalfa) was considered to be a solution to the deficiency. So you did not have to worry if you fed interior, as opposed to coastal hay. We also have selenium deficient soil here in Upstate NY. So far I haven't heard of anyone that is in an area where there is natural selenium present. Is there any such place? === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry http://www.nfhr.com Mike May, Registrar mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 === Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Selenium deficient soil
This message is from: Anton Voorhoeve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, this is Anton from Fjord Horses of Narnia. About selenium. Before we started to give selenium supplement we had a serum selenium test done on our first two mares because they would not get pregnant with A.I. The levels were very low. Following several injections of selenium both mare became pregnant. This is very suggestive but no proof. I looked into it some more but have not been able to find just how much a horse needs(I take 66ug of chelated selenium). Does anyone know more details? Salt blocks are not the best way in my experience, some horses like it a lot others never touch it. We give powdered minerals with high selenium mixed with some wet screening pellets or beet pulp, that way we know for sure they get it. We also give them vitamins when they're not on gras. Next week I will report on all I have learned from the evaluation process but the Dutch delegation to our farm. I will video the whole process and make it available for anyone interested. Anton Voorhoeve
Re: Selenium deficient soil
This message is from: BKFJORDS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here in Michigan, our soils are selenium deficient also. We feed a Vitamin C/Selenium supplement year around. Also, a month before the mares are due to foal, they are given a Selenium shot. Bernadine Karns
Selenium deficient soil
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary Thurman wrote: ... We don't have selenium in our soils, so we feed it as a supplement So do we (soils in northeastern Iowa, USA, are selenium deficient). When I got my first horse (Frosty, the non-Fjord), my vet told me to -always- feed a trace mineral and salt supplement that had selenium in it. So I did, but didn't think much of it, except for grouching that the selenium mineral blocks cost more than the non-selenium mineral blocks. Recently, however, local fellow who raises quarter horses told me that his family had lost 2 week-old foals -- they seemed healthy and active, but died suddenly. After sending the second body to the Veterinary Hospital at Iowa State University for testing, they found that the foals had died of selenium deficiency. They then started to feed their pregnant and lactating mares a selenium supplement in addition to their regular diet -- they have lost no more foals since then. As he finished his story, I thought of Finn, my yearling colt, who was born on our place, and I was thankful that I have never tried to cut costs with the mineral blocks! DeeAnna PS: Has anyone ever had trouble with their yearling horses still trying to suckle their dams (or even convenient geldings!) long after after weaning? Sissel, the mare, is definitely dried up. She tries to keep Finn away from her, but he is so quietly persistent that she finally gives in and lets him nurse. He even approaches the geldings (Tuopen and Frosty) for a nip -- you should see their heads swing around and their tails swish when they feel a nuzzle on their private parts! We had to dry Sissel up by keeping her for some weeks in a small paddock, but I didn't want to confine her to that small space any longer than was necessary. I realize now that we probably didn't separate Sissel and Finn long enough for him to break the habit. One suggestion we were given was to separate the two again for several months, but we don't really have the land and fences to do that. Will Finn eventually stop -- or should I see if I can board Sissel elsewhere -- or ? (I'm a little embarassed to admit this -- please don't make fun of me!)
