RE: synthetic harness preferences

2007-10-22 Thread Debbie
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Hi Jen,

I am a new Fjord owner as well. I haave had my 3 yr old gelding for 3 months. I 
can tell you my biggest challenge has been his stubbornness particulaarly when 
it comes to turnout. He is extremely smart  and is leaarning quickly. It does 
seem to go down the tubes when I walk him through grass to turn him out  or get 
to the round penn to work.

He is only three and had not been worked with before so I will be patient and 
consistent. My last horse was a thoroughbred mare. Complete opposites! I am so 
glad I decided to get aa Fjord this time!


Debbie  
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To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Sent: 10/21/07 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: synthetic harness preferences

This message is from: jen frame [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you Kate for your warm welcome to the wonderful world of Fjords!
 I must say that I am absessed over my new Fjord mare--I absolutely
adore her!  I have completely stopped giving her treats--I just don't
like a pushy horse
She learns very fast! I am working on her NOT diving down with her
head to eat grass when I am leading her with halter and lead rope, and
she picked up very fast on what I wanted.
Thanks for the info on Zilco too!
Jen

On 10/21/07, kate charboneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 5). Any reccomendations on a good synthetic harness for driving her
 that is not way too expensive? I have looked into Camptown, Yonies,
 and Zilco.Any preferences?
 

 Hi Jen,and welcome to the wonderfu world of Fjords!

 I have found my Fjord to be extremely food motivated, and I believe he
 would be very willing to be pushy and rude if given the chance. We
 practice showmanship every day on the way into and out of the barn, not
 because I'm hot for showing, but because it teaches respect.With
 this,my fellastays light and respectful of my space.

 Regarding harness, I own a Zilco harness and LOVE it for spring
 throughfall driving. I've shown in it at open shows and county fairs,
 and it has been well recieved by judges there. I totally hate it for
 winter time in northern Minnesota; it gets extremely stiff and miserable
 to work with in below zero temps. I use leather in the winter. Do your
 winters get below zero? Are you likely to sleigh in below zero temps?
 If not, I would highly recommend Zilco.

 Again, welcome to Fjords! Kate

 

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Re: synthetic harness preferences

2007-10-22 Thread jen frame
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Hi Debbie! Congrats on your new Fjord!  everybody on this list has
been incredibly helpful, and I have learned that the grass bombing (as
one of this list's members calls it) is a big Fjord issue!  My mare
luckily is very sweet and she has leared that I don't like her grass
bombing so she is trying very hard not to do it!  Someone suggested
using a stud chain until they learn not to..good luck, and please
share with me what works for you to correct your guy.
Thanks,
Jen

On 10/22/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This message is from: Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi Jen,

 I am a new Fjord owner as well. I haave had my 3 yr old gelding for 3 months. 
 I can tell you my biggest challenge has been his stubbornness particulaarly 
 when it comes to turnout. He is extremely smart  and is leaarning quickly. It 
 does seem to go down the tubes when I walk him through grass to turn him out  
 or get to the round penn to work.

 He is only three and had not been worked with before so I will be patient and 
 consistent. My last horse was a thoroughbred mare. Complete opposites! I am 
 so glad I decided to get aa Fjord this time!


 Debbie
 -Original Message-
 From: jen frame [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
 Sent: 10/21/07 11:28 PM
 Subject: Re: synthetic harness preferences

 This message is from: jen frame [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thank you Kate for your warm welcome to the wonderful world of Fjords!
  I must say that I am absessed over my new Fjord mare--I absolutely
 adore her!  I have completely stopped giving her treats--I just don't
 like a pushy horse
 She learns very fast! I am working on her NOT diving down with her
 head to eat grass when I am leading her with halter and lead rope, and
 she picked up very fast on what I wanted.
 Thanks for the info on Zilco too!
 Jen

 On 10/21/07, kate charboneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This message is from: kate charboneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  5). Any reccomendations on a good synthetic harness for driving her
  that is not way too expensive? I have looked into Camptown, Yonies,
  and Zilco.Any preferences?
  
 
  Hi Jen,and welcome to the wonderfu world of Fjords!
 
  I have found my Fjord to be extremely food motivated, and I believe he
  would be very willing to be pushy and rude if given the chance. We
  practice showmanship every day on the way into and out of the barn, not
  because I'm hot for showing, but because it teaches respect.With
  this,my fellastays light and respectful of my space.
 
  Regarding harness, I own a Zilco harness and LOVE it for spring
  throughfall driving. I've shown in it at open shows and county fairs,
  and it has been well recieved by judges there. I totally hate it for
  winter time in northern Minnesota; it gets extremely stiff and miserable
  to work with in below zero temps. I use leather in the winter. Do your
  winters get below zero? Are you likely to sleigh in below zero temps?
  If not, I would highly recommend Zilco.
 
  Again, welcome to Fjords! Kate
 
  
 
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RE: synthetic harness preferences

2007-10-21 Thread kate charboneau
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5). Any reccomendations on a good synthetic harness for driving her
that is not way too expensive? I have looked into Camptown, Yonies,
and Zilco.  Any preferences?


Hi Jen, and welcome to the wonderfu world of Fjords! 

I have found my Fjord to be extremely food motivated, and I believe he
would be very willing to be pushy and rude if given the chance.  We
practice showmanship every day on the way into and out of the barn, not
because I'm hot for showing, but because it teaches respect.  With
this, my fella stays light and respectful of my space.

Regarding harness, I own a Zilco harness and LOVE it for spring
through fall driving.  I've shown in it at open shows and county fairs,
and it has been well recieved by judges there.  I totally hate it for
winter time in northern Minnesota; it gets extremely stiff and miserable
to work with in below zero temps.  I use leather in the winter.  Do your
winters get below zero?  Are you likely to sleigh in below zero temps? 
If not, I would highly recommend Zilco. 

Again, welcome to Fjords!  Kate



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Re: synthetic harness preferences

2007-10-21 Thread jen frame
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Thank you Kate for your warm welcome to the wonderful world of Fjords!
 I must say that I am absessed over my new Fjord mare--I absolutely
adore her!  I have completely stopped giving her treats--I just don't
like a pushy horse
She learns very fast! I am working on her NOT diving down with her
head to eat grass when I am leading her with halter and lead rope, and
she picked up very fast on what I wanted.
Thanks for the info on Zilco too!
Jen

On 10/21/07, kate charboneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This message is from: kate charboneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 5). Any reccomendations on a good synthetic harness for driving her
 that is not way too expensive? I have looked into Camptown, Yonies,
 and Zilco.Any preferences?
 

 Hi Jen,and welcome to the wonderfu world of Fjords!

 I have found my Fjord to be extremely food motivated, and I believe he
 would be very willing to be pushy and rude if given the chance. We
 practice showmanship every day on the way into and out of the barn, not
 because I'm hot for showing, but because it teaches respect.With
 this,my fellastays light and respectful of my space.

 Regarding harness, I own a Zilco harness and LOVE it for spring
 throughfall driving. I've shown in it at open shows and county fairs,
 and it has been well recieved by judges there. I totally hate it for
 winter time in northern Minnesota; it gets extremely stiff and miserable
 to work with in below zero temps. I use leather in the winter. Do your
 winters get below zero? Are you likely to sleigh in below zero temps?
 If not, I would highly recommend Zilco.

 Again, welcome to Fjords! Kate

 

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RE: synthetic harness preferences

2007-10-21 Thread Frederick J Pack
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Jen,
You might check into the Picasso harnesses which are biothane.  
http://www.picassoforhorses.com/en/productos/guarniciones1.php 

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Excellent product and they stand behind the material and workmanship.
The traces were too thin for use with our 2 wheeled cart and a strong Fjord.
They  started to break.

Picasso, replaced them with thicker/stronger traces at no cost by direct
mail from Spain.

Not cheap, but you get what you pay for...

Fred

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Re: synthetic harness

2007-08-13 Thread emperry
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Oooohhh, Amy I have to respectfully disagree...All I every do is hose off
my biothane harness, with occasional wiping.  The maintenence of leather
harness is a nightmare in comparison.  (I had ridden for years before
carriage driving and cleaned leather saddles and bridles - no
comparison).

As to harness makers, let's see, I currently have Smuckers, Camptown,
some of Barb Lee's, and Zilco.  They all have nice hardware and look
great.  My only complaint with any of them is the saddle from the
Smuckers pleasure harness rolls back.  Also, I do like using light pads
for the breastcollar (I'm using a Camptown Freedom collar), saddle, and
breeching.

Eileen, ready to hose off my cart and harness again.

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Re: synthetic harness

2007-08-13 Thread MorrisShadowMT
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I also have to agree with Eileen.  The synthetic is much easier to  maintain. 
 The dirt just does not stick to it the way it does do  leather.  Once in a 
while I use a little Armour all on it.  It keeps  it very nice and repels dirt 
well.  I also like leather, but use it in the  nicer weather and not when I am 
going to be crossing rivers and going to the  ocean.
 
Good luck 
 
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synthetic harness

2003-10-19 Thread David McWethy
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We have been making synthetic (combined with leather padding) harness for
eight years.  Joe Glick's comments on synthetic and on leather harness is
pretty much on the mark.  I would only add to his comment on harness forming
to the horse.  It is true to some extent that synthetic harness doesn't form
as well, but it is also true that the harness has to be made properly and
fit properly to lay properly on the horse.

It is also true, as he says, that synthetic harness has the benefits of easy
maintenance, and a much lighter weight.  Some people will still choose all
leather, but probably more today are trying synthetic.  I cannot remember
anyone who has tried it and gone back to leather.  There may be some, but I
can't remember hearing it.

For anyone considering harness, you might know, too, that many people start
out attracted to brass.  Most of them eventually have stainless hardware
instead.  I tend to advise almost everyone to start with stainless, and skip
a step.  Stainless is stronger, more durable and requires no maintenance.
Except for the few that must have brass, it is an obvious choice.  Of course
a third choice, in a less expensive harness, is chrome.  I would still
choose chrome before brass, but chrome is significantly poorer than
stainless.

Dave McWethy
Camptown Harness
www.horseharness.com



RE: synthetic harness

2001-01-21 Thread Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/UNEBR
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My pictures below show Tank in his brand new beta biothane harness at  his first
and so far, only, CDE in October 1999. I love it!  It has worn very well. It is
very  approprite for daily working, pleasure shows and CDE's. If you are
interested in it, get in touch with Steve McIlree.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=579781a=4233796p=19113860

Cynthia8
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Re: Synthetic Harness

2001-01-20 Thread Laurie Pittman
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I highly recommend Camptown Harness ( Dave McWethy's ) for a well made,
 great looking synthetic harness. I poo poo'd anything but leather, UNTIL I
 tried a synthetic harness, now we have singles, pairs and a new 4-up of
it.


Ok Lisa, I remember you poo pooing synthetic harness whenever I mentioned
how much I love my Zilco, so I can't help snickering a bit when I hear you
extolling the virtues of them now. G I also have one of Dave McWethy's
Betta Biothane harness's and I love it too. I'm another one that will never
have a leather harness again.

Laurie in NW Washington





Synthetic Harness

2001-01-20 Thread Pedfjords
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In a message dated 1/20/01 11:30:11 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 I bought some biothaine riding reins, last year...and really like
 them. I just saw an add for a driving harness made out of this
 materialanyone have anything they'd like to share, good or bad,
 about buying a harness made out of this?
 
 Aimee
  

   I highly recommend Camptown Harness ( Dave McWethy's ) for a well made, 
great looking synthetic harness. I poo poo'd anything but leather, UNTIL I 
tried a synthetic harness, now we have singles, pairs and a new 4-up of it.  
For practicle use, daily workouts, and hitching by myself, its so much 
easier. ( Lighter, and you can throw it down into the dirthose it off and 
it looks brand new.) Its nice enough to show in, and we have paraded using it 
also.   Call Dave and ask about it.  Heres a link :
 A HREF=http://www.horseharness.com/;Camptown Harness/Aask him about 
the  special signed-by-a-guru-model.mine is COOL !   
 Lisa  * who still loves the look and smell of my russett harness, but cant 
get Jeff to clean all that brass anymore !   ;   (   PS :  Funny, the ONLY 
kind of lines I like are leather.go figure.