[Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...

2006-06-09 Thread Mike Anderson
Hello All,

I have a very intense problem, that must be addressed ASAP - our users
are getting really angry :(

We have a typical AS 2.0 Flash Application to view maps - and we are
using Remoting w/ColdFusion in order to send our data back and forth.

For only like 5% of the users, the application starts and loads
completely with all it's related controls.  BUT when the time comes for
the initial Remoting call to the server (which populates all the
dropdowns, etc.) it just hangs indefinitely - and we just can't figure
out what is going on.

The other 95% of the user base is working perfect!  We have had comments
regarding security settings, etc. so I know some users may have problems
there, and some have Corporate Firewall problems - but that type of
issue has to be addressed with the Admin person.  We are using the
JavaScript document.write method to write out the Flash Object tags -
in order to circumvent the Click to Activate this control problem.

What issues are we not seeing, or taking into consideration, which would
affect this 5% of the user base?

Also, a quick note, we are running ColdFusion on Port 80 - so there are
no other port issues that I am aware of (in case some users were
blocking port 8500).  I was confident that if we ran everything on Port
80, that this app would be friendly to all Firewalls.

Thanks in advance, for any advice you can throw my way.

Mike
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...

2006-06-09 Thread Robert Chyko
Does ColdFusion have all available patches installed?  There was a bug
with the first Remoting call in CF7 which was fixed by the first
updater.  That is the first thing that comes to mind.


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Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...


Hello All,

I have a very intense problem, that must be addressed ASAP - our users
are getting really angry :(

We have a typical AS 2.0 Flash Application to view maps - and we are
using Remoting w/ColdFusion in order to send our data back and forth.

For only like 5% of the users, the application starts and loads
completely with all it's related controls.  BUT when the time comes for
the initial Remoting call to the server (which populates all the
dropdowns, etc.) it just hangs indefinitely - and we just can't figure
out what is going on.

The other 95% of the user base is working perfect!  We have had comments
regarding security settings, etc. so I know some users may have problems
there, and some have Corporate Firewall problems - but that type of
issue has to be addressed with the Admin person.  We are using the
JavaScript document.write method to write out the Flash Object tags -
in order to circumvent the Click to Activate this control problem.

What issues are we not seeing, or taking into consideration, which would
affect this 5% of the user base?

Also, a quick note, we are running ColdFusion on Port 80 - so there are
no other port issues that I am aware of (in case some users were
blocking port 8500).  I was confident that if we ran everything on Port
80, that this app would be friendly to all Firewalls.

Thanks in advance, for any advice you can throw my way.

Mike
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...

2006-06-09 Thread Merrill, Jason
Do the 5% have the same http: browsing capabilities as the 95%?  I had a
similar issue and found out because I was new here, and even though I
could browse to most web sites, unknown to me my http access was
somewhat restricted until I was granted full, regular access.  Are there
any possible http access restrictions on these users for some reason?

JavaScript document.write method to write out the Flash Object tags
-

That shouldn't have anything to do with it since you said the
application starts - so they are past the Javascript at that point.  It
sounds like the Remoting call is failing for those users for some
reason.  

And is it always the same 5% or is it 5% of random users?  If it's
random, I have also had problems with network blips because someone else
was working on an application at the time or whatever.  If it's always
the same 5% then it seems to be due to something specific to their
configuration and not a network blip.

Anyway, things to think about.

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Anderson
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:57 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...

Hello All,

I have a very intense problem, that must be addressed ASAP - our users
are getting really angry :(

We have a typical AS 2.0 Flash Application to view maps - and we are
using Remoting w/ColdFusion in order to send our data back and forth.

For only like 5% of the users, the application starts and loads
completely with all it's related controls.  BUT when the time comes
for
the initial Remoting call to the server (which populates all the
dropdowns, etc.) it just hangs indefinitely - and we just can't figure
out what is going on.

The other 95% of the user base is working perfect!  We have had
comments
regarding security settings, etc. so I know some users may have
problems
there, and some have Corporate Firewall problems - but that type of
issue has to be addressed with the Admin person.  We are using the
JavaScript document.write method to write out the Flash Object tags
-
in order to circumvent the Click to Activate this control problem.

What issues are we not seeing, or taking into consideration, which
would
affect this 5% of the user base?

Also, a quick note, we are running ColdFusion on Port 80 - so there
are
no other port issues that I am aware of (in case some users were
blocking port 8500).  I was confident that if we ran everything on
Port
80, that this app would be friendly to all Firewalls.

Thanks in advance, for any advice you can throw my way.

Mike
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...

2006-06-09 Thread Mike Anderson
Yes, it's the SAME 5% of the users -

So there must be something in common with all these people.

Please keep those comments coming :)  I need all the help I can get
right now!

Many thanks!

Mike 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill,
Jason
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:22 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...

Do the 5% have the same http: browsing capabilities as the 95%?  I had a
similar issue and found out because I was new here, and even though I
could browse to most web sites, unknown to me my http access was
somewhat restricted until I was granted full, regular access.  Are there
any possible http access restrictions on these users for some reason?

JavaScript document.write method to write out the Flash Object tags
-

That shouldn't have anything to do with it since you said the
application starts - so they are past the Javascript at that point.  It
sounds like the Remoting call is failing for those users for some
reason.  

And is it always the same 5% or is it 5% of random users?  If it's
random, I have also had problems with network blips because someone else
was working on an application at the time or whatever.  If it's always
the same 5% then it seems to be due to something specific to their
configuration and not a network blip.

Anyway, things to think about.

Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Anderson
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:57 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...

Hello All,

I have a very intense problem, that must be addressed ASAP - our users

are getting really angry :(

We have a typical AS 2.0 Flash Application to view maps - and we are 
using Remoting w/ColdFusion in order to send our data back and forth.

For only like 5% of the users, the application starts and loads 
completely with all it's related controls.  BUT when the time comes
for
the initial Remoting call to the server (which populates all the 
dropdowns, etc.) it just hangs indefinitely - and we just can't figure

out what is going on.

The other 95% of the user base is working perfect!  We have had
comments
regarding security settings, etc. so I know some users may have
problems
there, and some have Corporate Firewall problems - but that type of 
issue has to be addressed with the Admin person.  We are using the 
JavaScript document.write method to write out the Flash Object tags
-
in order to circumvent the Click to Activate this control problem.

What issues are we not seeing, or taking into consideration, which
would
affect this 5% of the user base?

Also, a quick note, we are running ColdFusion on Port 80 - so there
are
no other port issues that I am aware of (in case some users were 
blocking port 8500).  I was confident that if we ran everything on
Port
80, that this app would be friendly to all Firewalls.

Thanks in advance, for any advice you can throw my way.

Mike
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...

2006-06-09 Thread Jim Robson
I don't know whether this applies to your situation but...

We had a similar issue that was caused by anomalies in the data (believe it
or not). It was a billing system built in Flash with a ColdFusion middle
tier and a SQL Server backend. When one particular user pulled up certain
accounts, the Flash UI would freeze on her. I know this doesn't make sense,
but we solved it by analyzing the data in the accounts in question and
looking for anomalies. We removed these anomalies, and sure enough the
user's problem disappeared.

We never figured out why these anomalies affected the Flash player, nor did
we figure out why they *didn't* affect anyone else's player except for that
one user. But the same issue arose with several different client accounts
and that same user. 

-Jim

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Anderson
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...

Yes, it's the SAME 5% of the users -

So there must be something in common with all these people.

Please keep those comments coming :)  I need all the help I can get
right now!

Many thanks!

Mike 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill,
Jason
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:22 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...

Do the 5% have the same http: browsing capabilities as the 95%?  I had a
similar issue and found out because I was new here, and even though I
could browse to most web sites, unknown to me my http access was
somewhat restricted until I was granted full, regular access.  Are there
any possible http access restrictions on these users for some reason?

JavaScript document.write method to write out the Flash Object tags
-

That shouldn't have anything to do with it since you said the
application starts - so they are past the Javascript at that point.  It
sounds like the Remoting call is failing for those users for some
reason.  

And is it always the same 5% or is it 5% of random users?  If it's
random, I have also had problems with network blips because someone else
was working on an application at the time or whatever.  If it's always
the same 5% then it seems to be due to something specific to their
configuration and not a network blip.

Anyway, things to think about.

Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Anderson
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:57 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...

Hello All,

I have a very intense problem, that must be addressed ASAP - our users

are getting really angry :(

We have a typical AS 2.0 Flash Application to view maps - and we are 
using Remoting w/ColdFusion in order to send our data back and forth.

For only like 5% of the users, the application starts and loads 
completely with all it's related controls.  BUT when the time comes
for
the initial Remoting call to the server (which populates all the 
dropdowns, etc.) it just hangs indefinitely - and we just can't figure

out what is going on.

The other 95% of the user base is working perfect!  We have had
comments
regarding security settings, etc. so I know some users may have
problems
there, and some have Corporate Firewall problems - but that type of 
issue has to be addressed with the Admin person.  We are using the 
JavaScript document.write method to write out the Flash Object tags
-
in order to circumvent the Click to Activate this control problem.

What issues are we not seeing, or taking into consideration, which
would
affect this 5% of the user base?

Also, a quick note, we are running ColdFusion on Port 80 - so there
are
no other port issues that I am aware of (in case some users were 
blocking port 8500).  I was confident that if we ran everything on
Port
80, that this app would be friendly to all Firewalls.

Thanks in advance, for any advice you can throw my way.

Mike
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...

2006-06-09 Thread Doug Coning
Jim, 

Curious, did the individual that had the problem have the same version
of Flash Player?  I'm sure you checked that out, but that is a curious
problem...

Doug Coning 
Senior Web Development Programmer
FORUM Solutions, LLC
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Robson
 Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:44 PM
 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting
hangs...
 
 I don't know whether this applies to your situation but...
 
 We had a similar issue that was caused by anomalies in the data
(believe
 it
 or not). It was a billing system built in Flash with a ColdFusion
middle
 tier and a SQL Server backend. When one particular user pulled up
certain
 accounts, the Flash UI would freeze on her. I know this doesn't make
 sense,
 but we solved it by analyzing the data in the accounts in question and
 looking for anomalies. We removed these anomalies, and sure enough the
 user's problem disappeared.
 
 We never figured out why these anomalies affected the Flash player,
nor
 did
 we figure out why they *didn't* affect anyone else's player except for
 that
 one user. But the same issue arose with several different client
accounts
 and that same user.
 
 -Jim
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
 Anderson
 Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:23 PM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting
hangs...
 
 Yes, it's the SAME 5% of the users -
 
 So there must be something in common with all these people.
 
 Please keep those comments coming :)  I need all the help I can get
 right now!
 
 Many thanks!
 
 Mike
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Merrill,
 Jason
 Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:22 AM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting
hangs...
 
 Do the 5% have the same http: browsing capabilities as the 95%?  I had
a
 similar issue and found out because I was new here, and even though I
 could browse to most web sites, unknown to me my http access was
 somewhat restricted until I was granted full, regular access.  Are
there
 any possible http access restrictions on these users for some reason?
 
 JavaScript document.write method to write out the Flash Object
tags
 -
 
 That shouldn't have anything to do with it since you said the
 application starts - so they are past the Javascript at that point.
It
 sounds like the Remoting call is failing for those users for some
 reason.
 
 And is it always the same 5% or is it 5% of random users?  If it's
 random, I have also had problems with network blips because someone
else
 was working on an application at the time or whatever.  If it's always
 the same 5% then it seems to be due to something specific to their
 configuration and not a network blip.
 
 Anyway, things to think about.
 
 Jason Merrill
 Bank of America
 Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Anderson
 Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:57 AM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...
 
 Hello All,
 
 I have a very intense problem, that must be addressed ASAP - our
users
 
 are getting really angry :(
 
 We have a typical AS 2.0 Flash Application to view maps - and we are
 using Remoting w/ColdFusion in order to send our data back and
forth.
 
 For only like 5% of the users, the application starts and loads
 completely with all it's related controls.  BUT when the time comes
 for
 the initial Remoting call to the server (which populates all the
 dropdowns, etc.) it just hangs indefinitely - and we just can't
figure
 
 out what is going on.
 
 The other 95% of the user base is working perfect!  We have had
 comments
 regarding security settings, etc. so I know some users may have
 problems
 there, and some have Corporate Firewall problems - but that type of
 issue has to be addressed with the Admin person.  We are using the
 JavaScript document.write method to write out the Flash Object
tags
 -
 in order to circumvent the Click to Activate this control problem.
 
 What issues are we not seeing, or taking into consideration, which
 would
 affect this 5% of the user base?
 
 Also, a quick note, we are running ColdFusion on Port 80 - so there
 are
 no other port issues that I am aware of (in case some users were
 blocking port 8500).  I was confident that if we ran everything on
 Port
 80, that this app would be friendly to all Firewalls.
 
 Thanks in advance, for any advice you can throw my way.
 
 Mike
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...

2006-06-09 Thread Jim Robson
Yes, her system was ostensibly identical to other systems in the same
billing department: same hardware, same OS / version, same browser /
version, same Flash player / version. 

The only other time I remember an incident similar to yours was when we
built an app using the WebServiceConnector component in Flash 7. For a small
% of users the app would load, but it was devoid of data. It turned out to
be a firewall issue. We ended up rebuilding the app using LoadVars objects
(Remoting was not available, as the backend was all Micro$oft products.)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Coning
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:48 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...

Jim, 

Curious, did the individual that had the problem have the same version
of Flash Player?  I'm sure you checked that out, but that is a curious
problem...

Doug Coning 
Senior Web Development Programmer
FORUM Solutions, LLC
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Robson
 Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:44 PM
 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting
hangs...
 
 I don't know whether this applies to your situation but...
 
 We had a similar issue that was caused by anomalies in the data
(believe
 it
 or not). It was a billing system built in Flash with a ColdFusion
middle
 tier and a SQL Server backend. When one particular user pulled up
certain
 accounts, the Flash UI would freeze on her. I know this doesn't make
 sense,
 but we solved it by analyzing the data in the accounts in question and
 looking for anomalies. We removed these anomalies, and sure enough the
 user's problem disappeared.
 
 We never figured out why these anomalies affected the Flash player,
nor
 did
 we figure out why they *didn't* affect anyone else's player except for
 that
 one user. But the same issue arose with several different client
accounts
 and that same user.
 
 -Jim
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
 Anderson
 Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:23 PM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting
hangs...
 
 Yes, it's the SAME 5% of the users -
 
 So there must be something in common with all these people.
 
 Please keep those comments coming :)  I need all the help I can get
 right now!
 
 Many thanks!
 
 Mike
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Merrill,
 Jason
 Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:22 AM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting
hangs...
 
 Do the 5% have the same http: browsing capabilities as the 95%?  I had
a
 similar issue and found out because I was new here, and even though I
 could browse to most web sites, unknown to me my http access was
 somewhat restricted until I was granted full, regular access.  Are
there
 any possible http access restrictions on these users for some reason?
 
 JavaScript document.write method to write out the Flash Object
tags
 -
 
 That shouldn't have anything to do with it since you said the
 application starts - so they are past the Javascript at that point.
It
 sounds like the Remoting call is failing for those users for some
 reason.
 
 And is it always the same 5% or is it 5% of random users?  If it's
 random, I have also had problems with network blips because someone
else
 was working on an application at the time or whatever.  If it's always
 the same 5% then it seems to be due to something specific to their
 configuration and not a network blip.
 
 Anyway, things to think about.
 
 Jason Merrill
 Bank of America
 Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Anderson
 Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:57 AM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash SWF Loading fine, but Remoting hangs...
 
 Hello All,
 
 I have a very intense problem, that must be addressed ASAP - our
users
 
 are getting really angry :(
 
 We have a typical AS 2.0 Flash Application to view maps - and we are
 using Remoting w/ColdFusion in order to send our data back and
forth.
 
 For only like 5% of the users, the application starts and loads
 completely with all it's related controls.  BUT when the time comes
 for
 the initial Remoting call to the server (which populates all the
 dropdowns, etc.) it just hangs indefinitely - and we just can't
figure
 
 out what is going on.
 
 The other 95% of the user base is working perfect!  We have had
 comments
 regarding security settings, etc. so I know some users may have
 problems
 there, and some have Corporate Firewall problems - but that type of
 issue has to be addressed with the Admin person.  We are using