Re: [Flashcoders] Flash capabilities

[8ball Developer]

Thank you all for your response.

On 11/2/05, Jordan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Martin is correct about Flash requiring FCS to stream MP3s. Flash can
> either
> pick up an MP3 from the server's filesystem, or connect to FCS to pick up
> a
> stream of MP3 information.
> He's also correct about Flash8 binary sockets and connecting to databases
> directly. I'm sure someone will dig into the socket level RDBMS specs for
> various servers and create connection classes for them, at some point in
> the
> future. But for the time being (which is what matters most), you DO have
> to
> have some sort of middleware, as Judah stated, and as you probably already
> know.
> Cheers
>
> On 11/2/05, Judah Frangipane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > To stream an mp3 all you need is a path to the file. The flash player
> > will handle the streaming.
> >
> > For database interaction all you need is flash remoting. It is one of my
> > favorite features of flash. It ROCKS! You can check out the free
> > amfphp.com   or the commercial
> versions for asp.net ,
> > cold fusion, etc. We
> > have been using both and it makes it very easy to connect to a database.
> > You do need to know the related server-side technology (php, asp,
> > asp.net  , cf, etc) to use it.
> >
> > Judah
> >
> > 8ball Developer wrote:
> >
> > >>>1. Can flash play audio streamed from Helix (Real Server)?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>flash streams mp3. thats all. (why it doesnt do ogg, i dont know.. :)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Sorry. I meant to say: can a flash player, play mp3 streamed from
> Helix?
> > Or
> > >does it have to come From Flash comm?
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash capabilities

[8ball Developer]

Thank you all for you response.

On 11/2/05, Jordan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Martin is correct about Flash requiring FCS to stream MP3s. Flash can
> either
> pick up an MP3 from the server's filesystem, or connect to FCS to pick up
> a
> stream of MP3 information.
> He's also correct about Flash8 binary sockets and connecting to databases
> directly. I'm sure someone will dig into the socket level RDBMS specs for
> various servers and create connection classes for them, at some point in
> the
> future. But for the time being (which is what matters most), you DO have
> to
> have some sort of middleware, as Judah stated, and as you probably already
> know.
> Cheers
>
> On 11/2/05, Judah Frangipane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > To stream an mp3 all you need is a path to the file. The flash player
> > will handle the streaming.
> >
> > For database interaction all you need is flash remoting. It is one of my
> > favorite features of flash. It ROCKS! You can check out the free
> > amfphp.com   or the commercial
> versions for asp.net ,
> > cold fusion, etc. We
> > have been using both and it makes it very easy to connect to a database.
> > You do need to know the related server-side technology (php, asp,
> > asp.net  , cf, etc) to use it.
> >
> > Judah
> >
> > 8ball Developer wrote:
> >
> > >>>1. Can flash play audio streamed from Helix (Real Server)?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>flash streams mp3. thats all. (why it doesnt do ogg, i dont know.. :)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Sorry. I meant to say: can a flash player, play mp3 streamed from
> Helix?
> > Or
> > >does it have to come From Flash comm?
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash capabilities

[Jordan Snyder]

Martin is correct about Flash requiring FCS to stream MP3s. Flash can either
pick up an MP3 from the server's filesystem, or connect to FCS to pick up a
stream of MP3 information.
 He's also correct about Flash8 binary sockets and connecting to databases
directly. I'm sure someone will dig into the socket level RDBMS specs for
various servers and create connection classes for them, at some point in the
future. But for the time being (which is what matters most), you DO have to
have some sort of middleware, as Judah stated, and as you probably already
know.
 Cheers

 On 11/2/05, Judah Frangipane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> To stream an mp3 all you need is a path to the file. The flash player
> will handle the streaming.
>
> For database interaction all you need is flash remoting. It is one of my
> favorite features of flash. It ROCKS! You can check out the free
> amfphp.com  or the commercial versions for 
> asp.net,
> cold fusion, etc. We
> have been using both and it makes it very easy to connect to a database.
> You do need to know the related server-side technology (php, asp,
> asp.net , cf, etc) to use it.
>
> Judah
>
> 8ball Developer wrote:
>
> >>>1. Can flash play audio streamed from Helix (Real Server)?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>flash streams mp3. thats all. (why it doesnt do ogg, i dont know.. :)
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Sorry. I meant to say: can a flash player, play mp3 streamed from Helix?
> Or
> >does it have to come From Flash comm?
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash capabilities

[Judah Frangipane]

To stream an mp3 all you need is a path to the file. The flash player 
will handle the streaming.


For database interaction all you need is flash remoting. It is one of my 
favorite features of flash. It ROCKS! You can check out the free 
amfphp.com or the commercial versions for asp.net, cold fusion, etc. We 
have been using both and it makes it very easy to connect to a database. 
You do need to know the related server-side technology (php, asp, 
asp.net, cf, etc) to use it.


Judah

8ball Developer wrote:


1. Can flash play audio streamed from Helix (Real Server)?
 


flash streams mp3. thats all. (why it doesnt do ogg, i dont know.. :)
   



Sorry. I meant to say: can a flash player, play mp3 streamed from Helix? Or
does it have to come From Flash comm?
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash capabilities

[Martin Wood]

not 100% sure, no.

i guess you mean 'real' streaming as opposed to progressive download.

in that case i think you might *currently* need fcs because it relies on 
the rtmp protocol


i really know very little about this unfortunately.

sorry.

martin


8ball Developer wrote:

Are you 100% sure about this? Is this documented someplace?
I'm trying to get them to replace Helix with FCS.

 On 11/2/05, Martin Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




8ball Developer wrote:


1. Can flash play audio streamed from Helix (Real Server)?


flash streams mp3. thats all. (why it doesnt do ogg, i dont know.. :)



Sorry. I meant to say: can a flash player, play mp3 streamed from Helix?


Or


does it have to come From Flash comm?


no, it can come from anywhere. :)

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash capabilities

[8ball Developer]

Are you 100% sure about this? Is this documented someplace?
I'm trying to get them to replace Helix with FCS.

 On 11/2/05, Martin Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> 8ball Developer wrote:
> >>>1. Can flash play audio streamed from Helix (Real Server)?
> >>
> >>flash streams mp3. thats all. (why it doesnt do ogg, i dont know.. :)
> >
> >
> > Sorry. I meant to say: can a flash player, play mp3 streamed from Helix?
> Or
> > does it have to come From Flash comm?
>
> no, it can come from anywhere. :)
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash capabilities

[Martin Wood]

8ball Developer wrote:

1. Can flash play audio streamed from Helix (Real Server)?


flash streams mp3. thats all. (why it doesnt do ogg, i dont know.. :)



 Sorry. I meant to say: can a flash player, play mp3 streamed from Helix? Or
does it have to come From Flash comm?


no, it can come from anywhere. :)

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash capabilities

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>
> > 1. Can flash play audio streamed from Helix (Real Server)?
>
> flash streams mp3. thats all. (why it doesnt do ogg, i dont know.. :)

 Sorry. I meant to say: can a flash player, play mp3 streamed from Helix? Or
does it have to come From Flash comm?
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash capabilities

[Martin Wood]

8ball Developer wrote:

Hi guys,
 I'm giving a presentation on using flash for an application in a few hours
and would like to have a firm answer on the following items.
 1. Can flash play audio streamed from Helix (Real Server)?


flash streams mp3. thats all. (why it doesnt do ogg, i dont know.. :)


2. Can flash access a database directly? I know this is no. But I don't know
what are all the work arounds. Suggestions?


presently you have to use middleware, php, java etc..
or if its a standalone application then you would have to have a 
suitable library and driver that you could access in the host 
(screenweaver, swfstudio, zinc etc..)


with 8.5 and some binary socket magic you could talk to a db directly.


i hope thats accurate :)

martin
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[Flashcoders] Flash capabilities

[8ball Developer]

Hi guys,
 I'm giving a presentation on using flash for an application in a few hours
and would like to have a firm answer on the following items.
 1. Can flash play audio streamed from Helix (Real Server)?
2. Can flash access a database directly? I know this is no. But I don't know
what are all the work arounds. Suggestions?
 Thanks
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